[SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Epson C82 printers

[Ilgaz]

On 2005-04-29 16:01:52 +0300, "Frog Prince" <devnull at spamcop.net> said:

> 
> "Ilgaz"
> 
> | You are one evil frog :) While responding to your mail, I figured how
> | much I am tired of ink and 1 day later, I ended up buying Epson colour
> | laser c1100
> |
> | Well I don't suggest to everyone, casual prints best is inkjet but my
> | hobbies doesn't permit. Especially the evil OS X which has amazing
> | printing capabilities. The UI is Postscript, need to say more?
> |
> | Oh, also thanks to moronic illustration, I spilled half of $60 black
> | toner, like 2000 pages worth. Then I called service not figuring the
> | toner spilled hit the print head. Speaking about luck.
> |
> | I just figured it would be cool if I asked service guy about your
> problem...
> |
> | Hope you already sold it
> 
> Ilhgz I was once a prince (hence the name frog prince) the sig line (see
> below)
> 
> C82 is for *free* but the person who gets it must pay the shipping (the
> trash guy works for free)
> 
> We gave up on Epson: Ink hogs, too many clogs, poor support, unwilling to
> provide maintenance manuals, cost of parts to name a few reasons.
> 
> Haven't purchases as yet but looking hard at Canon as most of our work is
> pre-press proofs and while we are heavy users for that pre-press review the
> Canon iP4000 and iP5000 seem to be best suited for that application.
> 
> How do you like the Epson Laser C1100 what's good what's bad in your
> opinion?
> 
> BTW we use both Mac and PC as my wife is a graphic artist.  (the splash
> screen on her G4 says "Does not play well with others".  Want to guess who
> 'others' might be <g>?
> 
> Frog Prince
> Way past the age of consent and still not getting it ... in either sense of
> the word.

Hi,

Well my installation was a pure scandal as I spilled half of toner to 
printer head by accident and thanks to stupid illustration showing how 
to shake the toner. Also trying to carry that huge thing, I hurt my 
back :)

I got confused (ever used HP laser?) and thought that "move" is to 
unseal the toner hard way (until hearing click) and half of it gone on 
floor and worse, the feeder.

So I said "my fault" and printed test page. Guess what? White columns 
on test page. A mainstream newspaper admin friend of me said "its fuser 
problem, turn it off" so called service with being amazed at my luck.

The thing turned to be another illustration misunderstanding. Looks 
like I misunderstood the drawing so I was only unlocking the real head 
cleaner part :)

Let me say, while buying it (or any colour laser) get more then 32mb 
ram. At least 64mb. You know how they work, they can't stop at a 
certain point and buffer. I tested pure 24bit 600dpi printing, it said 
'out of memory" and went 300dpi.

As you know, the "dpi" we speak about is _real_ as no ink involved. The 
black quality and colour quality is amazing.

On mac support, Epson and Canon are near equal btw, I have i250 
(lowest!) Canon and works perfectly.

The problem with inkjets are the mechanics as you mention. It has too 
many moving parts. Just figured, its just like tape vs cd player.

As I mentioned above, printer gives black toner alert already so I 
could just try printing couple of pages until I order new toner and 
RAM. Its perfect to me.

I had very bad memories with inkjets and whatever I tried, ink wasn't 
enough. The third party ink was always problematic too. So as I figured 
there are people still using their Apple Laserjets back from 1992, I 
better buy Laser already :)

Speaking for mac, Epson C1100 is really fine, after I install ram, it 
will do real good tricks (virtual 2400 dpi) and very interestingly, the 
software is looking identical on mac and windows. Of course, its 
postscript.

I mean, not like 50 features on XP, 20 features on Mac deal. Identical stuff.

Also this one is "real" usb2 printer, Apple reports 480mbps connection 
and its fine on non branded usb hub.

Have a nice day and really your post leaded all of this :)

Ilgaz Ocal