From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:49:43 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 09:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Dule back haul question Message-ID: Way back when there was an option to use two dial-up modems to increase speed. I have a friend who has both cable and DSL to his business (He's the kind of guy that wears both a belt and suspenders) so if one goes out he as a back up. FWIW if he knew about sat data he's have that as well. My question is there some methodology where the system access can be combined to use both pipes concurrently for increased performance? FP From rcarlton at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 09:02:35 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Dule back haul question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > My question is there some methodology where the system access can be > combined to use both pipes concurrently for increased performance? In XP, go to Network Connection. Hold down CTRL and click on each connection - moddem + LAN/DSL. Next, right-click to pull dowwn to something like "Join network connection" or "Bind connections" - am on a Mac ATM and can't remember the verbiage exactly. I'm not sure that you'll get much improvement - but I'd be interested in hearing how it goes. From none at domain.invalid Tue Mar 1 09:47:04 2005 From: none at domain.invalid (Anonymous) Date: Tue Mar 1 12:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Dule back haul question References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d01veh$6g8$1@news.spamcop.net... > Way back when there was an option to use two dial-up modems to > increase > speed. > > I have a friend who has both cable and DSL to his business (He's the > kind of > guy that wears both a belt and suspenders) so if one goes out he as > a back > up. FWIW if he knew about sat data he's have that as well. > > My question is there some methodology where the system access can be > combined to use both pipes concurrently for increased performance? If he's running that into a network, he'll need a Dual-WAN router, otherwise known as an aggregating router. Hawking Technologies makes a good one. I've set up several of these in the past, and they work great. You can combine pretty much any broadband TCP/IP type connections on the WAN side (DSL, T1, cable, satellite, etc.). If he's got more than 2 WAN connections, Hawking also makes a Quad-WAN router. You can run with as many WAN connections as you have, from 1 to 4 (in other words, you don't *have* to have 4 WAN connections to use the Quad-WAN router, and you don't *have* to have 2 WAN connections to use the Dual-WAN router, you can run with just one, if need be.). From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Mar 1 16:34:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Mar 1 19:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Need free CD burning software Message-ID: All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same time. What options do I have? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Mar 1 20:25:57 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Mar 1 20:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same | time. What options do I have? A really big fire? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Mar 1 23:06:41 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Mar 2 02:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" > > | All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the > same > | time. What options do I have? > > A really big fire? > > I had considered that, but the CDs need to be readable afterwards. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Wed Mar 2 12:48:52 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Wed Mar 2 06:50:42 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:34:34 -0800, Borgholio coughed into spamcop.geeks and left this in : > All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at > the same time. What options do I have? Multiple instances of cdrecord would do the trick perfectly well in *nix. -- Steve Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 07:15:22 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Mar 2 07:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | > | All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the | > same time. What options do I have? | > | > A really big fire? | I had considered that, but the CDs need to be readable afterwards. There is always the Oracle of Last Resort ... MS tech support ... perhaps they can read the ashes. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Wed Mar 2 14:15:25 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Wed Mar 2 08:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:25:57 -0500, Frog Prince coughed into spamcop.geeks and left this in : >| All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at >| the same time. What options do I have? > > A really big fire? Heh :) http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030406&mode=classic -- Steve Doctors can be frustrating. You wait six weeks for an appointment and he says, "I wish you'd come to me sooner." From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Mar 2 09:12:50 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 16:34:34 -0800, Borgholio coughed into spamcop.geeks > and left this in : > > >>All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at >>the same time. What options do I have? > > > Multiple instances of cdrecord would do the trick perfectly well in > *nix. > I'm currently running Windows, so *nix is not an option atm. From Kilgallen at SpamCop.net Wed Mar 2 11:30:12 2005 From: Kilgallen at SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Date: Wed Mar 2 12:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio writes: > All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same > time. What options do I have? Since you specified the software should be free :-), use any free software you want and switch to Sony CDW-900E which supports fiber-optic links between writers to slave them. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Mar 2 10:28:09 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Mar 2 13:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Larry Kilgallen wrote: > In article , Borgholio writes: > >>All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same >>time. What options do I have? > > > Since you specified the software should be free :-), > > use any free software you want and switch to Sony CDW-900E which > supports fiber-optic links between writers to slave them. I can't find any specs on that Sony Unit. Sounds expensive though. From eddie at eddie.web Wed Mar 2 15:22:41 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:25:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control Message-ID: Most of my Spam comes from China, so it seems logical that they should be in charge. Naturally, organizations like SC will be shut down and spam will become mandatory. If anyone is monopolizing the email, it's China. Then, I didn't know anyone was in charge of the internet, and I don't see how anyone could get in charge of it. Maybe China should start their own internet and see if anyone joins it. -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From eddie at eddie.web Wed Mar 2 15:25:23 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Wed Mar 2 15:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control Message-ID: Most of my Spam comes from China, so it seems logical that they should be in charge. Naturally, organizations like SC will be shut down and spam will become mandatory. If anyone is monopolizing the email, it's China. Then, I didn't know anyone was in charge of the internet, and I don't see how anyone could get in charge of it. Maybe China should start their own internet and see if anyone joins it. http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453432.0569444443.html -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 2 23:31:16 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting) Date: Wed Mar 2 23:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeksglobal control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: eddie wrote: > Most of my Spam comes from China, Err, hardly, at least not by volume. Check again: http://www.ciphertrust.com/resources/statistics/spam_sources.php Zombie armies, responsible for much spam today, rule the Internet from mostly US ISPs. > so it seems logical that they should be > in charge. Naturally, organizations like SC will be shut down and spam > will become mandatory. If anyone is monopolizing the email, it's China. > Then, I didn't know anyone was in charge of the internet, and I don't see > how anyone could get in charge of it. Maybe China should start their own > internet and see if anyone joins it. > > http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/05/breaking2453432.0569444443.html -- Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm From eddie at eddie.web Thu Mar 3 01:16:20 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Thu Mar 3 01:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control References: Message-ID: On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 23:31:16 -0500, Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting scratched out the following: > eddie wrote: >> Most of my Spam comes from China, > > Err, hardly, at least not by volume. Check again: > > http://www.ciphertrust.com/resources/statistics/spam_sources.php I repeat, most of *my* spam comes from China. And nearly all the URLs are Chinese. It doesn't matter to me if the sites are owned by Americans - the fact is that they are hosted in China, and nobody who hosts spam sites is innocent. Nobody is forced to let anyone set up a spam site. Where the rules and the laws are lax, that's where you will find spam sites. -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From Kilgallen at SpamCop.net Thu Mar 3 12:29:46 2005 From: Kilgallen at SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio writes: > Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> In article , Borgholio writes: >> >>>All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same >>>time. What options do I have? >> >> >> Since you specified the software should be free :-), >> >> use any free software you want and switch to Sony CDW-900E which >> supports fiber-optic links between writers to slave them. > > I can't find any specs on that Sony Unit. Sounds expensive though. The _maximum_ price I have seen on eBay lately is $400. The original price when they were new was $8000. They have a _very_nice_ mechanism. I was heartbroken when I thought mine was writing parity errors -- it turned out to be a bad batch of blank discs. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 13:55:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Mar 3 13:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] need dvd audio ripper Message-ID: I managed to rip the audio from a concert DVD but it's one huge .wav file. I want something that will allow me to choose which titles from a DVD I want to rip. Also, how to I convert a .wav file to be able to write it to an audio CD playable in my car stereo? That's a .cda file, isn't it? I've been playing with Ace Dvd Audio Extractor "trial version" but it keeps coming up with error messages. I also tried splitting the .wav file using a program call MP3 Splitter which supposedly works on .wav files too, but it couldn't find the seperation of the tracks (maybe because that data wasn't saved in the one big .wav file?) -- From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Mar 3 11:28:39 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Mar 3 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need free CD burning software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Larry Kilgallen wrote: > In article , Borgholio writes: > >>Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> >>>In article , Borgholio writes: >>> >>> >>>>All I require is that I be able to burn to multiple CD recorders at the same >>>>time. What options do I have? >>> >>> >>>Since you specified the software should be free :-), >>> >>>use any free software you want and switch to Sony CDW-900E which >>>supports fiber-optic links between writers to slave them. >> >>I can't find any specs on that Sony Unit. Sounds expensive though. > > > The _maximum_ price I have seen on eBay lately is $400. > > The original price when they were new was $8000. > > They have a _very_nice_ mechanism. I was heartbroken when I thought > mine was writing parity errors -- it turned out to be a bad batch of > blank discs. Ack...still a bit much for the time being. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 3 16:34:52 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting) Date: Thu Mar 3 16:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeksglobal control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: eddie wrote: > I repeat, most of *my* spam comes from China. > And nearly all the URLs are Chinese. Ok, sounds subjective, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Spam is very particular to each person. The link I posted has numbers. The link at the bottom of this message contains a lot of other references that support my claim, not that you were disputing it. ;-) > It doesn't matter to me if the sites are owned by Americans - the > fact is that they are hosted in China, and nobody who hosts spam sites is > innocent. Nobody is forced to let anyone set up a spam site. Where the > rules and the laws are lax, that's where you will find spam sites. With regard to spam zombies, which are reported to be the source of 80% of all spam today, they are mostly running on North American PCs. I am not saying that they don't advertise web sites outside of the US - you are probably correct about that. So, your emotion about this is well directed at Chinese ISPs for that. However, you should write (not by email) to your congressperson or senator (or political representative, if you're in another country) to demand that someone hold ISPs responsible for allowing so many zombies on their networks to roam freely. There is plenty of evidence to support that this is a major problem with respect to spam, one that CAN-SPAM comes nowhere close to fixing. Another tack would be to require that software involved in communications on the Internet be certified -- however, the technology and the engineering practices are nowhere near capable of achieving this anytime soon, and it likely goes against the grain of the original Internet philosophy. E.g., who certifies? How? China and its rogue ISPs that host spamvertized web sites, in my humble opinion, has become a small problem, thanks to the Russian spam gangs and their zombie armies. -- Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm From eddie at eddie.web Thu Mar 3 22:14:48 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Thu Mar 3 22:15:59 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court Message-ID: http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/03/03/2329228.shtml?tid=190&tid=123 ".. a Court has been asked to decide the parentage of MS-DOS. Tim Paterson, whose operating system 86-DOS (aka QDOS) was sold to Microsoft in 1980, is suing author Harold Evans and Time Warner for defamation. ..." I like one of the poster's comments: " I'm... I'm confused... somebody wants to admit they created MS-DOS?" -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From spam at euclidian.com Thu Mar 3 23:16:33 2005 From: spam at euclidian.com (I Love Spam) Date: Thu Mar 3 23:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Spam is awesome Message-ID: I Love spam..... and you will lose the battle. From none at domain.invalid Fri Mar 4 02:18:34 2005 From: none at domain.invalid (Anonymous) Date: Fri Mar 4 05:20:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Spam is awesome References: Message-ID: "I Love Spam" wrote in message news:d08nf4$2s7$1@news.spamcop.net... I Love spam..... and you will lose the battle. I don't think so, spammer. Perhaps you've not heard of SpamVampire... but, it's winning the battle. Go ahead, try spamming me... I'll cost you so much that you'll be forced to shut down the domain you're spamvertising (think several hundred times your normal monthly hosting bill, in just a couple days). And since it's run from a website, anyone in the world who wants to run it, can do so, costing you an identical amount for each person running it... feel like firewalling every IP address in the world, spammer? And if you continue to spam me, I'll cost you so much you'll be forced out of the spamming 'biz and you'll have to go back to working as a pizza delivery boy. And I've got some really nasty new surprises in store for you spammers in the near future. You won't be the first spammer I've forced out of the spamming 'biz, and you won't be the last, either. NNTP-Posting-Host: pcp04630056pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net dns pcp04630056pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net Canonical name: pcp04630056pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net Addresses: 68.49.56.24 http://www.spews.org/ask.cgi?x=68.49.56.24 http://www.spews.org/html/S2963.html Nice use of a Comcast trojaned machine, there, spammer. Report sent to Comcast. From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Fri Mar 4 12:26:42 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Rob) Date: Fri Mar 4 07:30:52 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Spam is awesome References: Message-ID: "I Love Spam" wrote in message news:d08nf4$2s7$1@news.spamcop.net... I Love spam..... and you will lose the battle. Then supply us with an afadavit to that effect and your main email address so we can forward all our spam to you. From PossumTrot at dont.spam.me Fri Mar 4 08:09:50 2005 From: PossumTrot at dont.spam.me (Possum Trot) Date: Fri Mar 4 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Spam is awesome References: Message-ID: Another Spamcast customer. "I Love Spam" wrote in message news:d08nf4$2s7$1@news.spamcop.net... I Love spam..... and you will lose the battle. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 12:08:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Maxx Excaliber) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] TPF causing Win2kPro to blue-screen Message-ID: I've been getting intermittent errors where my system will suddenly blue-screen and start a memory dump complaining about an error with kmxids.sys. I tracked down the sys file and it says it's from Tiny Personal Firewall. I'm running version 6, and have just checked to make sure there is no new version. A Google search reveals several other people having the same exact error. I'm uninstalling it since it wasn't a fully-paid version anyway. Just wondering if anyone knows if there is a fix for it? I'm thinking about downloading a trial version of TPF2005, but if it's got the same problem, I don't want it! -- Maxx Excaliber mrmaxx@spamcop.net Just a user, NOT an Admin/Deputy From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 12:51:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Maxx Excaliber) Date: Fri Mar 4 12:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: TPF causing Win2kPro to blue-screen References: Message-ID: On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:08:48 -0500, Maxx Excaliber wrote: > I've been getting intermittent errors where my system will suddenly > blue-screen and start a memory dump complaining about an error with > kmxids.sys. I tracked down the sys file and it says it's from Tiny > Personal Firewall. I'm running version 6, and have just checked to make > sure there is no new version. [snip] Well, I went ahead and uninstalled. I think I'll give 2005 a shot and see if it's any good. Anyone have any experience with TPF2005? -- Maxx Excaliber mrmaxx@spamcop.net Just a user, NOT an Admin/Deputy From nobody at nowhere.invalid Fri Mar 4 19:43:23 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Fri Mar 4 13:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: Message-ID: On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:14:48 -0500, eddie coughed into spamcop.geeks and left this in : > I like one of the poster's comments: " I'm... I'm confused... somebody > wants to admit they created MS-DOS?" LOL :) This said, MS-DOS was a relatively robust O/S. If you didn't need multitasking and protected mode memory access then MS-DOS was probably a good choice for you. And if you did need more memory there were all kinds of kludges available like EMS, XMS, DOS expanders... It's what M$ did with it from Win95 onwards that made the wheels fly off the cart. -- Steve Last time someone listened to a bush, folks wandered around the desert for 40 years. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 4 13:59:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Mar 4 14:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > > This said, MS-DOS was a relatively robust O/S. If you didn't need > multitasking and protected mode memory access then MS-DOS was > probably a good choice for you. And if you did need more memory there > were all kinds of kludges available like EMS, XMS, DOS expanders... But those "kludges" were a bit PITA do deal with, TSRs fighting over upper and lower memory, certain apps *had* to run in EMS or XMS, and if there wasn't enough available you had to start killing processes......reboot, try again, repeat, rinse, lather..... From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Mar 4 12:00:05 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:14:48 -0500, eddie coughed into spamcop.geeks and > left this in : > > >>I like one of the poster's comments: " I'm... I'm confused... somebody >>wants to admit they created MS-DOS?" > > > LOL :) > > This said, MS-DOS was a relatively robust O/S. If you didn't need > multitasking and protected mode memory access then MS-DOS was probably a > good choice for you. And if you did need more memory there were all > kinds of kludges available like EMS, XMS, DOS expanders... > > It's what M$ did with it from Win95 onwards that made the wheels fly off > the cart. > Yeah I tend to agree. MS-DOS on it's own was very stable for me. It's only when you incorporated it into Windows 3.1 and Windows 9x that things started to get wanky. The best thing is to either leave DOS on it's own, or get rid of it completely (Windows XP). From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Mar 4 12:00:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Steven Maesslein wrote: > >>This said, MS-DOS was a relatively robust O/S. If you didn't need >>multitasking and protected mode memory access then MS-DOS was >>probably a good choice for you. And if you did need more memory there >>were all kinds of kludges available like EMS, XMS, DOS expanders... > > > But those "kludges" were a bit PITA do deal with, TSRs fighting over upper > and lower memory, certain apps *had* to run in EMS or XMS, and if there > wasn't enough available you had to start killing processes......reboot, try > again, repeat, rinse, lather..... > > Right but rebooting a DOS system only took a minute or so. So it wasn't that inconvenient. :) From eddie at eddie.web Fri Mar 4 15:43:51 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: Message-ID: On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 19:43:23 +0100, Steven Maesslein scratched out the following: snip > LOL :) > > This said, MS-DOS was a relatively robust O/S. If you didn't need > multitasking and protected mode memory access then MS-DOS was probably a > good choice for you. And if you did need more memory there were all kinds > of kludges available like EMS, XMS, DOS expanders... snap I was an early convert to DR-DOS which has multitasking, much like Unix and had all those memory expanders built in to the system. MS-DOS is/was a good OS, too and I have one machine that can boot into it, although I haven't used it in years. Those were the days when you simply turned off the power when you were done computing. :) -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From eddie at eddie.web Fri Mar 4 15:46:06 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Fri Mar 4 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: Message-ID: On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:00:34 -0800, Borgholio scratched out the following: snip >> > Right but rebooting a DOS system only took a minute or so. So it wasn't > that inconvenient. :) And if it froze, you just used the power switch. No disk errors. And Gates had not yet invented the BSOD :) -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Mar 4 13:16:05 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Mar 4 16:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: eddie wrote: > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 12:00:34 -0800, Borgholio scratched out the following: > > snip > >>Right but rebooting a DOS system only took a minute or so. So it wasn't >>that inconvenient. :) > > > And if it froze, you just used the power switch. No disk errors. And Gates > had not yet invented the BSOD :) > Exactly. Quick and simple. :) From joegill at removethis Fri Mar 4 21:35:02 2005 From: joegill at removethis (Joe Gill) Date: Fri Mar 4 21:35:38 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Any AirPort Express users? Message-ID: I have some questions..... I attempted to help someone secure down their WinXP PC which was connected to a router: What I did was: 1) Updated the router firmware 2) Setup the router only to allow specific MAC Addr's to access 3) Changed the 'default' SSID from Linksys to another name.... Results: WinXP PC got in FINE! MAC Laptop PC got in FINE! Problem? Then I found out son also has a AirPort Express unit in the basement! It would not function. I added the (2) Mac Addrs that it has... Unplugged/Replugged Still flashed Amber So I reversed the changes... 1) SSID back to the default.... 2) NO MacADDR restrictions.... Unplugged / Replugged AirPort Express..... Still Flashes amber... . Any suggestions ??? I am not a MAC user..... From joegill at removethis Sat Mar 5 14:56:30 2005 From: joegill at removethis (Joe Gill) Date: Sat Mar 5 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Any AirPort Express users? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-8329C6.22203704032005@localhost... > In article , > "Joe Gill" wrote: > > > Unplugged / Replugged AirPort Express..... > > Still Flashes amber... > > . > > Any suggestions ??? > > > > > Flashing amber > > Startup is complete, but AirPort Express didn't get an IP connection. > > Depending on your setup, it may mean AirPort Express is out of network range, > > unplugged from Ethernet, lacks a path to the Internet (or local router), or > > that there's an issue with your Internet service provider. > > > > Note: If AirPort Express is set up as a wireless client and the network it's > > joining is protected by an access control list, AirPort Express must be in > > the ACL to get an IP connection. > > -- > -David Thanks! That was the original case! I has only added one of the 2 Macaddr's ...Added the second one. Recycled the AirPort...Same problem.... Removed MacAddr restriction.... recycled the Airport (unplug/replug) ... Still no help! From driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com Mon Mar 7 05:37:33 2005 From: driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com (Bert Driehuis) Date: Sun Mar 6 23:40:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: Message-ID: <20050307053733.716f9b78@wednesday.playbeing.org> On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:43:51 -0500 eddie wrote: > Those were the days when you simply turned off the power when you were > done computing. :) Only if you couldn't afford a hard disk. Professionals in those days would never shut down their DOS PC's without parking the hard disk! From driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com Mon Mar 7 05:44:35 2005 From: driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com (Bert Driehuis) Date: Sun Mar 6 23:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control References: Message-ID: <20050307054435.18865a3b@wednesday.playbeing.org> On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:34:52 -0500 Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting wrote: > Another tack would be to require that software involved in > communications on the Internet be certified -- however, the technology > and the engineering practices are nowhere near capable of achieving > this anytime soon, and it likely goes against the grain of the > original Internet philosophy. E.g., who certifies? How? Oh, that's an easy question. Microsoft. Look, if everyone on the Internet would be forbidden to run any software that doesn't meet the Microsoft Logo Requirements, I think we wouldn't be having this discussion. And Microsoft is quite wellplaced in this marketplace, with Microsoft signing keys being made available to hackers due to an "error" by VeriSlime for just under a day, giving a 99.9% uncompromised history. I wouldn't like a world without UNIX though. Cheers, - Bert From eddie at eddie.web Mon Mar 7 00:18:35 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Mon Mar 7 00:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: <20050307053733.716f9b78@wednesday.playbeing.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:37:33 +0100, Bert Driehuis scratched out the following: > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:43:51 -0500 > eddie wrote: > > > >> Those were the days when you simply turned off the power when you were >> done computing. :) > > Only if you couldn't afford a hard disk. > > Professionals in those days would never shut down their DOS PC's without > parking the hard disk! There were professionals in those days? I never parked a hard disk and nothing ever happened. Either they parked themselves as the power went down or they were simply built better than today's disks. Yes, there were parking utilities, but I never bothered. When I was done, I turned off the power. Actually, I can do that today with my SuSE and OSX boxes but I don't. Now, you see, I am a professional :) -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From eddie at eddie.web Mon Mar 7 00:20:25 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Mon Mar 7 00:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] China charges U.S. monopolizes the Internet, seeks global control References: <20050307054435.18865a3b@wednesday.playbeing.org> Message-ID: On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:44:35 +0100, Bert Driehuis scratched out the following: snip > I wouldn't like a world without UNIX though. > > Cheers, - Bert Without Unix, MS would have been clueless and BG would probably be a lawyer today. Paul Allen - an astronaut?? :) -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Mar 7 01:25:20 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting) Date: Mon Mar 7 01:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court In-Reply-To: <20050307053733.716f9b78@wednesday.playbeing.org> References: <20050307053733.716f9b78@wednesday.playbeing.org> Message-ID: Bert Driehuis wrote: > On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:43:51 -0500 > eddie wrote: > > > > >>Those were the days when you simply turned off the power when you were >>done computing. :) > > > Only if you couldn't afford a hard disk. > > Professionals in those days would never shut down their DOS PC's without > parking the hard disk! I used to flip up the A & B floppy drive levers before shutting off the PC; I was told you could get corrupted data on the floppy diskette. Of course, there wasn't a lot that *didn't* cause floppies to get corrupted in those days. -- Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm From driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com Tue Mar 8 02:44:55 2005 From: driehuis.fcnzpbc2005 at playbeing.com (Bert Driehuis) Date: Mon Mar 7 20:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: [Media] MS-DOS Paternity Dispute Goes to Court References: <20050307053733.716f9b78@wednesday.playbeing.org> Message-ID: <20050308024455.3cf821e1@wednesday.playbeing.org> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 00:18:35 -0500 eddie wrote: > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 05:37:33 +0100, Bert Driehuis scratched out the > following: [...] > > Professionals in those days would never shut down their DOS PC's > > without parking the hard disk! > > There were professionals in those days? I never parked a hard disk and > nothing ever happened. Either they parked themselves as the power went > down or they were simply built better than today's disks. Yes, there > were parking utilities, but I never bothered. When I was done, I > turned off the power. > Actually, I can do that today with my SuSE and OSX boxes but I don't. > Now, you see, I am a professional :) Ah, but modern disks are for weenies! They have capacitors that store enough power to flush the cache to disk before spinning down (at least, that's the theory: I have seen modern disks developing bad sectors [that go away when rewriting them] as a result of power outages). On older MFM disks, I've seen entire tracks wiped as a result of a power failure at the wrong time. I have seen an expensive 40MB disk die when its owner said parking was for wimps and showed me it didn't matter (as it turns out, the disk survived the shaking itself, but when the arm crashed into the parking mechanism it would never release the arm; we got the data off by removing the cover and the parking mechanism but the disk died soon after that unsubtle repair). The disk throwing record that year was something like 40MB for 6 meters. From abuse at hanaro.com Wed Mar 9 14:00:27 2005 From: abuse at hanaro.com (abuse@hanaro.com) Date: Wed Mar 9 00:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] SPEWS: A removal request of 222.233.52.0/24 (S3145) Message-ID: This is Hanaro anti spam center. Our customer's network 222.233.52.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We fixed the spam problem in 222.233.52.0/24. 222.233.52.0/24 was listed in SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem in this network. We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 222.233.52.0/24 from their list. Thank you. Abuse Staff abuse@hanaro.com From none at domain.invalid Tue Mar 8 23:06:14 2005 From: none at domain.invalid (Anonymous) Date: Wed Mar 9 02:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 222.233.52.0/24 (S3145) References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:d0lvtc$o4b$1@news.spamcop.net... > This is Hanaro anti spam center. > > Our customer's network 222.233.52.0/24 is currently listed in > spews.org. We fixed the spam problem in 222.233.52.0/24. > 222.233.52.0/24 was listed in SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already > delisted as soon as we fixed the problem in this network. > > We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 222.233.52.0/24 > from their list. You're in the wrong place... NANAE is that way. =====> You might want to wear your asbestos underwear before you visit, though, because you *will* be flamed for such a request. But then, you already knew that, right? That's why you're posting here. And when you DO post your request to NANAE, don't think you can just post and run... people have questions for you, and you might want to stick around and answer them. And you still have a huge spam problem emanating from your networks... do you really believe that SPEWS will delist any of your IP addresses when you continue to be irresponsible about hosting those who cost businesses billions of dollars per year in lost productivity, additional bandwidth costs, and additional hardware and software to protect themselves from your clients' spew? Results 1 - 100 of 3,690 http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=%22Hanaro%22&start=0&scoring=d&num=100 Don't tell me you're NOT monitoring NANAS for sightings of spammers on your network... you are doing that, right? You've EARNED a wide block in the Block Lists, and that block on your IP addresses won't be removed until you show the world you're being more responsible toward the internet community by removing ALL your spammers, implementing procedures to help prevent signing up new ones, quickly removing any new ones that do get past the new procedures, and keeping the anti-spam community apprised of your progress. You want your IP addresses removed from the Block Lists? EARN it. From angel+news at spamcop.net Wed Mar 9 07:36:05 2005 From: angel+news at spamcop.net (Angel) Date: Wed Mar 9 02:40:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Cisco router... Message-ID: Hello folks, It's probably heavily overdone for a small home network like mine (currently 8 systems), but a friendly neighbor gave me an old Cisco 2610 ethernet router. I wonder, can this little device help me in any way with keeping spam out? -- The Rules of Spam, now HTML 4.01 & CSS2 compliant: http://www.pearlgates.net/nanae/rulesofspam.shtml From abuse at hanaro.com Wed Mar 9 17:08:14 2005 From: abuse at hanaro.com (abuse@hanaro.com) Date: Wed Mar 9 03:10:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) Message-ID: This is Hanaro anti spam center. Our customer's network 221.143.42.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We fixed the spam problem in 221.143.42.0/24. 221.143.42.0/24 was listed in SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem in this network. We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 221.143.42.0/24 from their list. Thank you. Abuse Staff abuse@hanaro.com From me at privacy.net Wed Mar 9 02:29:24 2005 From: me at privacy.net (justin) Date: Wed Mar 9 03:30:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <422EB3E4.1050706@privacy.net> abuse@hanaro.com wrote: > This is Hanaro anti spam center. > > Our customer's network 221.143.42.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We > fixed the spam problem in 221.143.42.0/24. 221.143.42.0/24 was listed in > SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem > in this network. > > We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 221.143.42.0/24 from > their list. > > Thank you. > > Abuse Staff > abuse@hanaro.com > > > > > Ok we will get right on it. You promised all spam has been eliminated from this network......... right ;) . Are you serious ? Spamhaus and spamcop have nothing to do with each other. Spamcop is not affliated with spamhause or spews. If you have made a concerted effort to get rid of spam then you will be delisted on both those websites until then all email from your network goes to dev null . From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 9 06:30:51 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Mar 9 06:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:d0mate$tsj$1@news.spamcop.net... > This is Hanaro anti spam center. > > Our customer's network 221.143.42.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We > fixed the spam problem in 221.143.42.0/24. 221.143.42.0/24 was listed in > SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem > in this network. > > We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 221.143.42.0/24 from > their list. > > Thank you. > > Abuse Staff > abuse@hanaro.com > The spamcop blocklist and the SPEWS blocklist are two different blocklists. SpamCop blocklist is entirely automatic. When the spam stops, the IP address is delisted. Miss Betsy From wb8tyw at qsl.network Wed Mar 9 07:14:48 2005 From: wb8tyw at qsl.network (John E. Malmberg) Date: Wed Mar 9 07:15:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Miss Betsy wrote: > wrote in message > news:d0mate$tsj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The spamcop blocklist and the SPEWS blocklist are two different > blocklists. SpamCop blocklist is entirely automatic. When the > spam stops, the IP address is delisted. As Skiwi pointed out on the first post, this is probably a spoof. 210.94.1.21 listed in cbl.abuseat.org ( 127.0.0.2 ) While it is coming from Hanaro IP space, it is coming from a currently listed compromised computer, which makes it unlikely that it is actually coming from anyone with authority at hanaro.com. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only From nospam at dev.null Wed Mar 9 14:39:52 2005 From: nospam at dev.null (Anty Spam) Date: Wed Mar 9 07:40:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:d0mate$tsj$1@news.spamcop.net... > This is Hanaro anti spam center. > > Our customer's network 221.143.42.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We - SNIP - X-Trace: news.spamcop.net 1110355695 30611 210.94.1.21 (9 Mar 2005 08:08:15 GMT) ???? http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=210.94.1.21 http://www.dnsstuff.com:80/tools/ptr.ch?ip=210.94.1.21 "ins1.hananet.net. (an authoritative nameserver for 1.94.210.in-addr.arpa., which is in charge of the reverse DNS for 210.94.1.21) says that there are no PTR records for 210.94.1.21." Hmmm, maybe a send letter of apology for not reacting to complaints about the extremely graphic porn spam sites you hosted, spam sent to my minor daughter, for not doing anything when complaints were lodged to you either and the situation continued for two months till your net range was blocked by MY ISP. I guess since you do not have my mail address, you will be sending out a lot of apologies, or a lot of digging ...Now how about compensation for time and money spent? Now on to the other ignored spamming issues .... Sorry - you do not have a warm reception here, but can you blame us. From user at domain.invalid Wed Mar 9 08:24:52 2005 From: user at domain.invalid (User) Date: Wed Mar 9 09:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Cisco router... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 09.03.2005 01:36, Angel wrote: --- Original Message --- > Hello folks, > > It's probably heavily overdone for a small home network like mine > (currently 8 systems), but a friendly neighbor gave me an old Cisco > 2610 ethernet router. > > I wonder, can this little device help me in any way with keeping spam > out? > > Read all about the 2600 series: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/2600/index.shtml From nobody at nowhere.invalid Wed Mar 9 15:55:03 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Wed Mar 9 10:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 07:14:48 -0500, John E. Malmberg coughed into spamcop and left this in : > While it is coming from Hanaro IP space, it is coming from a currently > listed compromised computer, which makes it unlikely that it is actually > coming from anyone with authority at hanaro.com. "Compromised computer" and "someone with authority at spamaro" are not mutually exclusive... :) -- Steve Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): "Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilisation?" Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea." From ivan at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 16:58:51 2005 From: ivan at gmail.com (Ivan Leo Puoti) Date: Wed Mar 9 11:00:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: abuse@hanaro.com wrote: > This is Hanaro anti spam center. > > Our customer's network 221.143.42.0/24 is currently listed in spews.org. We > fixed the spam problem in 221.143.42.0/24. 221.143.42.0/24 was listed in > SBL(Spamhaus.org), but was already delisted as soon as we fixed the problem > in this network. > > We would like to ask spews administrator to remove 221.143.42.0/24 from > their list. > > Thank you. > > Abuse Staff > abuse@hanaro.com I hope the whole world blacklists you. Ivan. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Wed Mar 9 18:23:04 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Wed Mar 9 12:25:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 16:58:51 +0100, Ivan Leo Puoti coughed into spamcop and left this in : > I hope the whole world blacklists you. The whole world (except Korea) already has, probably. -- Steve We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress. From me at pricacy.net Wed Mar 9 15:55:42 2005 From: me at pricacy.net (Caduceus) Date: Wed Mar 9 17:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Need help with spam cop on this Message-ID: Hi: On Monday, I decided to download Pine. I thought I configured my pinerc file correctly, however whenever I try to connect Pine will say "Trouble reading remote collections, Try Again?". Also, Pine will not connect to my imap server. Here is how I have the pinerc file configured. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong, and what changes I need to do to make it work? ---------------- #Example: user-id=xyz123 user-id=shorn@spamcop.net #Example: personal-name=My Name personal-name=Steve Horn #Example: user-domain=u.washington.edu user-domain=imap.spamcop.net #Example: smtp-server=smtp.foobar.edu smtp-server=mail.mailcircuit.com #Example: nntp-server=news.foobar.edu nntp-server= #Example: inbox-path={imapserver.foobar.edu}inbox inbox-path={imap.spamcop.net/user=shorn@spamcop.net/tls/novalidate-cert}INBOX #Example: incoming-folders= "WIDGETS" {imapserver.foobar.edu}widgets, # "CompMailPine" {imapserver.foobar.edu}{news.foobar.edu/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine #Note: the second example requires a recent version of the UW IMAP server, which is acting as a news proxy in this case incoming-folders= #Example: folder-collections=MAIN {imapserver.foobar.edu}mail/[*], PROJECTS {imapserver.foobar.edu}projects/[*] folder-collections={imap.spamcop.net/user=shorn@spamcop.net/tls/novalidate-cert}INBOX.[] #You can leave the following group of variables blank; Pine will pick default names news-collections= default-fcc= postponed-folder= read-message-folder= signature-file= #Example: address-book=MYBOOK {imapserver.foobar.edu}addrbook #Note: this example identifies a Pine addressbook being stored on your IMAP server address-book= feature-list=delete-skips-deleted, use-current-dir, enable-mail-check-cue, auto-open-next-unread, enable-incoming-folders, news-read-in-newsrc-order, news-post-without-validation, select-without-confirm, news-approximates-new-status, compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d, enable-mouse-in-xterm, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, enable-full-header-cmd, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-suspend, enable-tab-completion, enable-unix-pipe-cmd, quit-without-confirm, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, single-column-folder-list, enable-8bit-nntp-posting, enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation, enable-verbose-smtp-posting, compose-cut-from-cursor, auto-zoom-after-select, auto-unzoom-after-apply, print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt, print-formfeed-between-messages, auto-move-read-msgs, enable-dot-files, enable-dot-folders, tab-visits-next-new-message-only, use-subshell-for-suspend, enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon, expanded-view-of-distribution-lists, save-will-not-delete, compose-posts-in-background, enable-background-sending, enable-goto-in-file-browser, no-print-index-enabled, enable-delivery-status-notification, enable-search-and-replace, enable-arrow-navigation, expunge-without-confirm, enable-msg-view-urls, enable-msg-view-web-hostnames, enable-exit-via-lessthan-command, enable-partial-match-lists, enable-fast-recent-test, add-ldap-result-to-addrbook initial-keystroke-list=i default-composer-hdrs=To, Cc, Bcc, Subject customized-hdrs=Reply-To:, Organization: Not Much But I Keep Trying saved-msg-name-rule=by-recipient fcc-name-rule= sort-key= character-set=ISO-8859-1 editor= image-viewer= use-only-domain-name=No#Example: user-id=xyz123 user-id=shorn@spamcop.net #Example: personal-name=My Name personal-name= #Example: user-domain=u.washington.edu user-domain=imap.spamcop.net #Example: smtp-server=smtp.foobar.edu smtp-server=mail.mailcircuit.com #Example: nntp-server=news.foobar.edu nntp-server= #Example: inbox-path={imapserver.foobar.edu}inbox inbox-path={imap.spamcop.net/user=shorn@spamcop.net/tls/novalidate-cert}INBOX #Example: incoming-folders= "WIDGETS" {imapserver.foobar.edu}widgets, # "CompMailPine" {imapserver.foobar.edu}{news.foobar.edu/nntp}#news.comp.mail.pine #Note: the second example requires a recent version of the UW IMAP server, which is acting as a news proxy in this case incoming-folders= #Example: folder-collections=MAIN {imapserver.foobar.edu}mail/[*], PROJECTS {imapserver.foobar.edu}projects/[*] folder-collections={imap.spamcop.net/user=shorn@spamcop.net/tls/novalidate-cert}INBOX.[] #You can leave the following group of variables blank; Pine will pick default names news-collections= default-fcc= postponed-folder= read-message-folder= signature-file= #Example: address-book=MYBOOK {imapserver.foobar.edu}addrbook #Note: this example identifies a Pine addressbook being stored on your IMAP server address-book= feature-list=delete-skips-deleted, use-current-dir, enable-mail-check-cue, auto-open-next-unread, enable-incoming-folders, news-read-in-newsrc-order, news-post-without-validation, select-without-confirm, news-approximates-new-status, compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d, enable-mouse-in-xterm, enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, enable-full-header-cmd, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-suspend, enable-tab-completion, enable-unix-pipe-cmd, quit-without-confirm, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, single-column-folder-list, enable-8bit-nntp-posting, enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation, enable-verbose-smtp-posting, compose-cut-from-cursor, auto-zoom-after-select, auto-unzoom-after-apply, print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt, print-formfeed-between-messages, auto-move-read-msgs, enable-dot-files, enable-dot-folders, tab-visits-next-new-message-only, use-subshell-for-suspend, enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon, expanded-view-of-distribution-lists, save-will-not-delete, compose-posts-in-background, enable-background-sending, enable-goto-in-file-browser, no-print-index-enabled, enable-delivery-status-notification, enable-search-and-replace, enable-arrow-navigation, expunge-without-confirm, enable-msg-view-urls, enable-msg-view-web-hostnames, enable-exit-via-lessthan-command, enable-partial-match-lists, enable-fast-recent-test, add-ldap-result-to-addrbook initial-keystroke-list=i default-composer-hdrs=To, Cc, Bcc, Subject customized-hdrs=Reply-To:, Organization: Not Much But I Keep Trying saved-msg-name-rule=by-recipient fcc-name-rule= sort-key= character-set=ISO-8859-1 editor= image-viewer= use-only-domain-name=No ----------------- If anyone can tell me what changes I need to make to my pinerc file I would appreciate it. TIA. -- Steve From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 9 21:13:22 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Mar 9 21:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: "John E. Malmberg" wrote in message news:d0mpbp$61a$1@news.spamcop.net... > Miss Betsy wrote: > > wrote in message > > news:d0mate$tsj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > The spamcop blocklist and the SPEWS blocklist are two different > > blocklists. SpamCop blocklist is entirely automatic. When the > > spam stops, the IP address is delisted. > > As Skiwi pointed out on the first post, this is probably a spoof. > > 210.94.1.21 listed in cbl.abuseat.org ( 127.0.0.2 ) > > While it is coming from Hanaro IP space, it is coming from a currently > listed compromised computer, which makes it unlikely that it is actually > coming from anyone with authority at hanaro.com. I thought it was a little unlikely that abuse at hanaro would not know the difference between spamcop and spews or that they would attempt to get removed from spews. However, you never know - unless you read the headers! Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Mar 10 07:59:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (nospam) Date: Wed Mar 9 23:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: in article d0oa8a$3c5$1@news.spamcop.net, Miss Betsy at nobody@devnull.spamcop.net wrote on 3/10/05 6:13 AM: > "John E. Malmberg" wrote in message > news:d0mpbp$61a$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Miss Betsy wrote: >>> wrote in message >>> news:d0mate$tsj$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> >>> The spamcop blocklist and the SPEWS blocklist are two different >>> blocklists. SpamCop blocklist is entirely automatic. When the >>> spam stops, the IP address is delisted. >> >> As Skiwi pointed out on the first post, this is probably a spoof. >> >> 210.94.1.21 listed in cbl.abuseat.org ( 127.0.0.2 ) >> >> While it is coming from Hanaro IP space, it is coming from a > currently >> listed compromised computer, which makes it unlikely that it is > actually >> coming from anyone with authority at hanaro.com. > > I thought it was a little unlikely that abuse at hanaro would not > know the difference between spamcop and spews or that they would > attempt to get removed from spews. > > However, you never know - unless you read the headers! > > Miss Betsy It's not unlikely at all, in my opinion, that part timer probably only has a vague notion of what abuse and internet are. S/he is probably normally on the pubic relations staff. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Mar 10 11:07:17 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Mar 10 05:13:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) References: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:59:09 +0400, nospam coughed into spamcop and left this in : > It's not unlikely at all, in my opinion, that part timer probably only has a > vague notion of what abuse and internet are. S/he is probably normally on > the pubic relations staff. ~~~~~ Please tell me that was a typo... -- Steve Doctors can be frustrating. You wait six weeks for an appointment and he says, "I wish you'd come to me sooner." From Kilgallen at SpamCop.net Thu Mar 10 07:53:23 2005 From: Kilgallen at SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Date: Thu Mar 10 08:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Need help with spam cop on this References: Message-ID: You would probably get more help if the title indicated what it with which you need help. That way, people who know about that might be tempted to read it. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 10 11:36:18 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting) Date: Thu Mar 10 11:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Incomplete (body-less) spams Message-ID: Hi, I just had a (geeky) thought, while reading about strategies on rejecting emails at the SMTP connection based on block-lists, etc. Someone mentioned that spammer software often doesn't check error codes during SMTP transfers, but just jam the data through on the TCP connection. I'm wondering if this might explain why sometimes we get spams that are incomplete (i.e., body is empty or missing data). -- Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm From DougThegarden at hotmail.com Thu Mar 10 16:42:14 2005 From: DougThegarden at hotmail.com (Doug Thegarden) Date: Thu Mar 10 11:45:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SPEWS: A removal request of 221.143.42.0/24 (S2717) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:59:09 +0400, nospam coughed into spamcop and left > this in : > > >>It's not unlikely at all, in my opinion, that part timer probably only has a >>vague notion of what abuse and internet are. S/he is probably normally on >>the pubic relations staff. > > ~~~~~ > Please tell me that was a typo... > No, its correct. In Spam organisations they have people whose job is to screw everybody instead of the normal public relations ;-) Doug From eddie at eddie.web Thu Mar 10 12:16:05 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Thu Mar 10 12:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Incomplete (body-less) spams References: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:36:18 -0500, Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting scratched out the following: > Hi, > > I just had a (geeky) thought, while reading about strategies on rejecting > emails at the SMTP connection based on block-lists, etc. Someone > mentioned that spammer software often doesn't check error codes during > SMTP transfers, but just jam the data through on the TCP connection. > > I'm wondering if this might explain why sometimes we get spams that are > incomplete (i.e., body is empty or missing data). My theory, for what it's worth, is that they were either caught by a server and truncated, or that they are test emailings by smamkiddy to see if his "system" is working, the assumption being that they are not easy to report. One or two percent of my spam is like that. Not very many. -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Mar 10 14:17:43 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Mar 10 14:20:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] System Fonts displaying as boxes Message-ID: I had to reinstall WinME, (I know, don't get me started), and then reinstall all my other programs, one of which is Picture It publishing. After I did that, and open it, all the program menus show up blocks instead of letters, and some Googling tells me this is a corrupted system font, Marlett. I did the restore as per the directions, http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;[LN];134861 deleted the cache file, reinstalled the program and the menus are still messed up. Any ideas? I was getting close to 1000 fonts, the limit, so I moved some of my own, 100 or so, off into another folder, didn't seem to help, guess this is why: "If a TrueType font file is located in a folder other than the Fonts or the System folder, the full path to the font is included in the registry, using up more space in the key and reducing the number of fonts you can install." So other than delete hundreds of fonts I may need (want).....? From wb8tyw at qsl.network Thu Mar 10 23:44:36 2005 From: wb8tyw at qsl.network (John E. Malmberg) Date: Thu Mar 10 23:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Incomplete (body-less) spams In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering if this might explain why sometimes we get spams that are > incomplete (i.e., body is empty or missing data). That is actually the symptom of a system that has run out of a critical resource like disk space or memory. If it is disk space, the next generation of worms may start deleting files again. Of course it could be a signal that the worm has morphed into a spam relay that is being blasted out to many address so that it does not reveal the spammer's address. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only From rcarlton at spamcop.net Fri Mar 11 00:49:27 2005 From: rcarlton at spamcop.net (Rick Carlton) Date: Fri Mar 11 03:50:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: System Fonts displaying as boxes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > So other than delete hundreds of fonts I may need (want).....? > > Install a Font Management utility like Font Reserve for Windows. I use Font Agent Pro on Macs, but Insider seems to have discontinued the Windows version, otherwise I'd recommend that. From anthony.edwards at uk.easynet.net Sat Mar 12 00:33:40 2005 From: anthony.edwards at uk.easynet.net (Anthony Edwards) Date: Fri Mar 11 19:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Cisco router... References: Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 07:36:05 +0000 (UTC), Angel wrote: > Hello folks, > > It's probably heavily overdone for a small home network like mine > (currently 8 systems), but a friendly neighbor gave me an old Cisco > 2610 ethernet router. > > I wonder, can this little device help me in any way with keeping spam > out? It could in theory, if you went to the trouble of writing an Access Control List to block incoming destination port 25 TCP traffic from IP ranges from which you did not wish to receive mail, and run your own mailserver locally. -- Anthony Edwards * anthony.edwards@uk.easynet.net Abuse Team Manager * Tel: 0800 053 0588 Easynet Ltd * DDI: 0161 227 0707 http://www.uk.easynet.net * Fax: 0845 333 4503 From dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com Sat Mar 12 05:37:37 2005 From: dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com (Tim P) Date: Sat Mar 12 00:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] X-news alteration for header scoring Message-ID: Is there some way to add to the list of header keywords that X-News filters on? It would be very useful right about now; another newsgroup is getting dippyposts (mailbomb ala newsposts). Currently, there are only five keywords within the headers that X- News can scorefile and apply filters to. It doesn't score others, like "NNTP-Posting-Host:", etc. If not, is there another newsreader that could handle header processing? Thanks so much, -- Tim P Very content SpamCop Subscriber since 4/2002 From none at domain.invalid Sat Mar 12 03:30:53 2005 From: none at domain.invalid (Anonymous) Date: Sat Mar 12 06:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: "Tim P" wrote in message news:Xns9616F05B828EBdwvbo91q4001sneakema@216.154.195.61... > Is there some way to add to the list of header keywords that X-News > filters on? It would be very useful right about now; another > newsgroup is getting dippyposts (mailbomb ala newsposts). > > Currently, there are only five keywords within the headers that X- > News can scorefile and apply filters to. It doesn't score others, > like "NNTP-Posting-Host:", etc. > > If not, is there another newsreader that could handle header > processing? I wonder if a person could get the source code for Hamster Playground (http://www.elbiah.de/hamster/pg/index.htm), and port it to *nix and compile it? That'd let you do RegEx filtering on anything in a usenet post (anything in the headers, anything in the body). From bert at visi.com Sat Mar 12 15:00:02 2005 From: bert at visi.com (Bert Hyman) Date: Sat Mar 12 10:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9616F05B828EBdwvbo91q4001sneakema@216.154.195.61 Tim P wrote: > Is there some way to add to the list of header keywords that X-News > filters on? It would be very useful right about now; another > newsgroup is getting dippyposts (mailbomb ala newsposts). > > Currently, there are only five keywords within the headers that X- > News can scorefile and apply filters to. It doesn't score others, > like "NNTP-Posting-Host:", etc. > > If not, is there another newsreader that could handle header > processing? The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in the overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list of unread articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially free. You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will have to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header fields you want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on some servers. -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Mar 12 14:56:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Sat Mar 12 14:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: Bert Hyman wrote: >> > The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in the > overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list of unread > articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially free. > > You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other > headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will have > to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header fields you > want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on some servers. Sounds like Xnews ain't exactly the panacea to the troll that was flooding these groups lately as some folks were espousing, eh? From dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com Sat Mar 12 20:11:52 2005 From: dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com (Tim P) Date: Sat Mar 12 15:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d0vhb2$spl$1@news.spamcop.net: > Bert Hyman wrote: >>> >> The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in >> the overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list >> of unread articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially >> free. >> >> You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other >> headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will >> have to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header >> fields you want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on >> some servers. The server gives me all the overview records that go with a posting so that is not a problem. > > Sounds like Xnews ain't exactly the panacea to the troll that > was flooding these groups lately as some folks were espousing, > eh? > > > Yes, and no. Someone in a group posted their X-News scorefile section, which contained headers that are supposedly ignored by X- News. When I tried to use those to score and filter on, it did not work. I get the impression that something was done to add the extra keywords into the "scoring" criteria to the default ones. The default keywords are: 1. Message-ID 2. Subject 3. From 4. Xref 5. Lines 6. References Again, no mention is made about instructions on how to add to the keyword list. I am guessing that it was changed somehow in the original program's code. -- Tim P Very content SpamCop Subscriber since 4/2002 From bert at visi.com Sat Mar 12 20:18:32 2005 From: bert at visi.com (Bert Hyman) Date: Sat Mar 12 15:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: In news:Xns96179070E1763dwvbo91q4001sneakema@216.154.195.61 Tim P wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:d0vhb2$spl$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Bert Hyman wrote: >>>> >>> The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in >>> the overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list >>> of unread articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially >>> free. >>> >>> You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other >>> headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will >>> have to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header >>> fields you want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on >>> some servers. > > The server gives me all the overview records that go with a posting > so that is not a problem. If you want to filter on a header that's not in the overview record, then it is a problem. >> >> Sounds like Xnews ain't exactly the panacea to the troll that >> was flooding these groups lately as some folks were espousing, >> eh? > > Yes, and no. Someone in a group posted their X-News scorefile > section, which contained headers that are supposedly ignored by X- > News. When I tried to use those to score and filter on, it did not > work. It's possible that the server you're talking to does not implement the XHDR command which Xnews needs to filter on headers that aren't in the overview. You're also using an old version of Xnews which might not implement the feature at all. Go to http://xnews.newsguy.com/test and take the latest "test" version. -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com From bert at visi.com Sat Mar 12 20:21:03 2005 From: bert at visi.com (Bert Hyman) Date: Sat Mar 12 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: In news:d0vhb2$spl$1@news.spamcop.net "indigo" wrote: > Bert Hyman wrote: >>> >> The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in the >> overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list of unread >> articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially free. >> >> You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other >> headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will have >> to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header fields you >> want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on some servers. > > Sounds like Xnews ain't exactly the panacea to the troll that was > flooding these groups lately as some folks were espousing, eh? I don't understand what you mean. Assuming that the server implements the XHDR command, Xnews can filter on any header. It's slower than using data in the overview record, but any newsreader that wants to do that level of filtering will suffer the same slowdown. -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com From ric.gates at bigsleep.org Sat Mar 12 20:24:53 2005 From: ric.gates at bigsleep.org (Blammo) Date: Sat Mar 12 15:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: On 11 Mar 2005 Tim P entered spamcop.geeks and left news:Xns9616F05B828EBdwvbo91q4001sneakema@216.154.195.61: > Is there some way to add to the list of header keywords that X-News > filters on? It would be very useful right about now; another > newsgroup is getting dippyposts (mailbomb ala newsposts). > > Currently, there are only five keywords within the headers that X- > News can scorefile and apply filters to. It doesn't score others, > like "NNTP-Posting-Host:", etc. > See: news:Xns95F8AEC0D7A99johnlspamcopnet@216.154.195.61 The score file takes regEx expressions, so you can use NNTP-Posting-Host: .*\.pooles\.rima\-tde\.net.* -- | Ric | From ric.gates at bigsleep.org Sat Mar 12 20:54:24 2005 From: ric.gates at bigsleep.org (Blammo) Date: Sat Mar 12 15:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Incomplete (body-less) spams References: Message-ID: On 10 Mar 2005 Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting entered spamcop.geeks and left news:d0pt5s$tec$1@news.spamcop.net: > Hi, > > I just had a (geeky) thought, while reading about strategies on > rejecting emails at the SMTP connection based on block-lists, etc. > Someone mentioned that spammer software often doesn't check error > codes during SMTP transfers, but just jam the data through on the TCP > connection. > > I'm wondering if this might explain why sometimes we get spams that > are incomplete (i.e., body is empty or missing data). > I don't see how. If the server returns an error code, it's not going to just start accepting garbage data. It expects another command, if it doesn't get one it returns another error or drops the connection. The incomplete spams are most likely caused by spamware inadvertantly sending an end of data character. Even if the session ends during DATA there'll still be an error like "unexpected close on connection from ..." The headers are just part of the entire message, SMTP doesn't know anything about headers, it's all data. -- | Ric | From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Sun Mar 13 00:36:53 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Sat Mar 12 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Changed OS and lost newsgroups. Message-ID: Well, I've remembered some such as these, but, someone posted an invite to a private newsgroup here some weeks ago and I joined and they had a good group on security anong others, but, I cannot remember its name. All I have is the name of the newsgroup from one posing I managed to save in my Sent Message box..."securecomp"...but, I can't remember the name of the server. Anyone recognise it and have the server's name? From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat Mar 12 18:28:01 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Mar 12 21:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Changed OS and lost newsgroups. References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > All I have is the name of the newsgroup from one > posing I managed to save in my Sent Message box..."securecomp"...but, > I can't remember the name of the server. Anyone recognise it and have > the server's name? No, but your OE and many other newsagents don't stamp your newsmessages with a msgID, but leaves that up to the newsserver. Your message here, which is posted to news.spamcop.net has a MID of... Message-ID: ... so I would look at the references line, if your sent message was a reply to someone, and see if the references line has a mid reflecting the name of the newsserver. If that doesn't work , try news.securecomp.org which has newsgroups securecomp, weboftrust, spareroom, and thetable at 199.0.155.22:119 -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Mar 12 21:26:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Mar 12 22:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Changed OS and lost newsgroups. References: Message-ID: "Canopus" wrote in message news:d101vs$5fd$1@news.spamcop.net... | Well, I've remembered some such as these, but, someone posted an invite to a | private newsgroup here some weeks ago and I joined and they had a good group | on security anong others, but, I cannot remember its name. All I have is | the name of the newsgroup from one posing I managed to save in my Sent | Message box..."securecomp"...but, I can't remember the name of the server. | Anyone recognize it and have the server's name? Perhaps resetting your news reader for this group would allow you to down load the original post. From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Mar 14 14:10:23 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Mon Mar 14 09:15:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Changed OS and lost newsgroups. References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d108ct$8cs$1@news.spamcop.net... > Canopus wrote: > > All I have is the name of the newsgroup from one > > posing I managed to save in my Sent Message box..."securecomp"...but, > > I can't remember the name of the server. Anyone recognise it and have > > the server's name? > > No, but your OE and many other newsagents don't stamp your newsmessages > with a msgID, but leaves that up to the newsserver. Your message here, > which is posted to news.spamcop.net has a MID of... > > Message-ID: > > ... so I would look at the references line, if your sent message was a > reply to someone, and see if the references line has a mid reflecting > the name of the newsserver. > > If that doesn't work , try news.securecomp.org which has > newsgroups securecomp, weboftrust, spareroom, and thetable at > 199.0.155.22:119 > > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > Ah ha org! I tried everything except "org". Thanks, Rob From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Mar 14 20:29:12 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Mon Mar 14 15:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net Message-ID: I'm having a very bizarre experience I cannot solve with OE and Internet connection. I've recently upgraded to XP from 98se, applied Service Pack 1 and all the security updates and am connected to Internet via ADSL modem at 512Mb. For some reason I get disconnected from the net as soon as I poll for mail. This is what I find: I can send mail as soon as I launch OE and not get disconnected. I can poll for mail with MailWasher and not get disconnected. The very second I attempt to poll for mail with OE my connection goes and I have to re-connect before I can receive. I've tried it with: Never dial a connection. Dial whenever a network connection is not present. Always dial my connection. and all give above results, loss of connection as soon as mail is polled, then after connecting polling mail goes ahead, but, next attempt looses connection again etc. I cannot find any other settings that could cause this to happen or stop happening. Why should it happen with just OE and not MailWasher? I never had this with W98, what could be causing it in XP? Rob From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Mar 14 16:16:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Mar 14 16:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > I'm having a very bizarre experience I cannot solve with OE and > Internet connection. I've recently upgraded to XP from 98se, applied > Service Pack 1 and all the security updates and am connected to > Internet via ADSL modem at 512Mb. For some reason I get disconnected > from the net as soon as I poll for mail. This is what I find: > > I can send mail as soon as I launch OE and not get disconnected. > I can poll for mail with MailWasher and not get disconnected. > The very second I attempt to poll for mail with OE my connection goes > and I have to re-connect before I can receive. Are you absolutely, 100% sure the OE polling is causing this? I've lost my internet connecton (cable modem) multiple times today, OE crashes and gives me a "msinm.exe has failed and must be shut down" error. Then I look a the modem and all the lights are off, but it goes thru the restart routine all by itself. It's almost like the power to the modem is getting yanked, but I'm betting that Comcast is just having problems with the local network router (at least in my case) and OE crashing during a poll without a connection is a symptom, not a cause. From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Mon Mar 14 23:47:31 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Mon Mar 14 18:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d14una$k2a$1@news.spamcop.net... > Canopus wrote: > > I'm having a very bizarre experience I cannot solve with OE and > > Internet connection. I've recently upgraded to XP from 98se, applied > > Service Pack 1 and all the security updates and am connected to > > Internet via ADSL modem at 512Mb. For some reason I get disconnected > > from the net as soon as I poll for mail. This is what I find: > > > > I can send mail as soon as I launch OE and not get disconnected. > > I can poll for mail with MailWasher and not get disconnected. > > The very second I attempt to poll for mail with OE my connection goes > > and I have to re-connect before I can receive. > > Are you absolutely, 100% sure the OE polling is causing this? I've lost my > internet connecton (cable modem) multiple times today, OE crashes and gives > me a "msinm.exe has failed and must be shut down" error. Then I look a the > modem and all the lights are off, but it goes thru the restart routine all > by itself. It's almost like the power to the modem is getting yanked, but > I'm betting that Comcast is just having problems with the local network > router (at least in my case) and OE crashing during a poll without a > connection is a symptom, not a cause. > > Well if it is as you say then someone up there has it in for me. One second I am polling mail with MailWsaher and everything is OK, the next second I poll with OE and within milliseconds of clicking the Send/Receive button I see the connection icon blink out and the connection box comes up. This is happening now every time without fail, but, if I post a message to a newsgroup with OE the connection remains steady. Since posting the above I also now notice that I am disconnected when I try to just send. I just had a mail from NTL ADSL Support advising me to uncheck "Disconnect after Send/Receive" in OE Options which wasn't checked anyway and I'd already told them that. Looks as if they are still not reading mails properly...could be a long trouble shoot. Rob From skiwi at spamcop.net Mon Mar 14 18:58:51 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Mon Mar 14 22:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] local.google.com Message-ID: have a look at local.google.com if you want - some neat features that will give Mapquest a run for their money and then some! From ric.gates at bigsleep.org Tue Mar 15 04:11:57 2005 From: ric.gates at bigsleep.org (Blammo) Date: Mon Mar 14 23:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: local.google.com References: Message-ID: On 14 Mar 2005 Skiwi entered spamcop.geeks and left news:d15j1q$ttv$1@news.spamcop.net: > have a look at local.google.com if you want - some neat features that > will give Mapquest a run for their money and then some! > Too bad they don't use @page { size: landscape; } On the large map. Actually I'm not sure that works yet, but can't hurt Otherwise, pretty cool shit. -- | Ric | From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Tue Mar 15 11:39:58 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Mar 15 06:45:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d14una$k2a$1@news.spamcop.net... > Issue solved thanks. The solution was: Click the "Tools" menu then select "Accounts" Select the "Mail" tab Selecting each account in turn: click "Properties", then "Connection" Ensure "Always connect to this account using:" is unticked Well all accounts had that ticked and the network connection box underneath was blank so OE couldn't figure out what to connect with even though I have only one network connection. Typical example of Windoze and one up to MailWasher that uses the same configuration, but, didn't get confused. Rob From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Mar 15 09:12:29 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting) Date: Tue Mar 15 09:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > Well all accounts had that ticked and the network connection box underneath > was blank so OE couldn't figure out what to connect with even though I have > only one network connection. Typical example of Windoze and one up to > MailWasher that uses the same configuration, but, didn't get confused. You mentioned you upgraded from 98SE to XP -- the kind of problem you had is likely due to that, and is one reason I prefer to always format my HD between major OS versions. -- Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 15 10:15:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Mar 15 10:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > > Selecting each account in turn: > click "Properties", then "Connection" > Ensure "Always connect to this account using:" is unticked > > Well all accounts had that ticked and the network connection box > underneath was blank If that box is ticked the default choice should be Local Area Network, which won't cause any problems if they're all ticked that way (unless you have two ways of getting onto the net, then I could see having a conflict). From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Tue Mar 15 22:00:03 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Mar 15 17:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: "Sofa King Tyred of Lar Ting" wrote in message news:d16qk5$iq4$1@news.spamcop.net... > Canopus wrote: > > Well all accounts had that ticked and the network connection box underneath > > was blank so OE couldn't figure out what to connect with even though I have > > only one network connection. Typical example of Windoze and one up to > > MailWasher that uses the same configuration, but, didn't get confused. > > You mentioned you upgraded from 98SE to XP -- the kind of problem you > had is likely due to that, and is one reason I prefer to always format > my HD between major OS versions. > > -- > Help fight spam by "educating" the lax, zombie-hosting ISPs: > http://pages.infinit.net/filmore/educateYourISP.htm The partition I put XP on was formatted and no problems until I downloaded the security patches and the two patches for OE one of which was the cumulative patch for OE which I suspect may have reset some configurations in it to default. Rob From TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com Tue Mar 15 22:06:17 2005 From: TMHRVMFWREVN at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Mar 15 17:10:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d16tvk$kjt$1@news.spamcop.net... > Canopus wrote: > > > > Selecting each account in turn: > > click "Properties", then "Connection" > > Ensure "Always connect to this account using:" is unticked > > > > Well all accounts had that ticked and the network connection box > > underneath was blank > > If that box is ticked the default choice should be Local Area Network, which > won't cause any problems if they're all ticked that way (unless you have two > ways of getting onto the net, then I could see having a conflict). > > No, I only have one way of getting onto the net. I suspect the cumulative patch for OE may have set that box to default and checked it, but, left the box below it blank. I noticed on my Yahoo account that there was no tick there, but, Local Area Network was in the box ready to be activated. Well, it's a head scratching mystery which will probably never be solved now as everything is working. Was considering using Restore at one point, glad I didn't :-) Rob From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Mar 15 20:10:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Mar 15 20:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Polling For Mail with OE Disconnects me from Net References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: Well, it's a head scratching mystery which > will probably never be solved now as everything is working. Was > considering using Restore at one point, glad I didn't :-) > Well, at least you were smart enough to post here and do a bit more research before it came to that! ;-) SC.geeks is one of the best places on the net for info on just about anything to do with computers if'n ya ask me. Saved my butt LOTS of times! From h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com Tue Mar 15 19:51:45 2005 From: h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com (Anon_) Date: Tue Mar 15 22:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] networking Message-ID: I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and wall plug) I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read B's hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel and set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both computers. Same setting for both computers. Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I click on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open the hard drive for computer A. On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer or open the hard drive. I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the problem. BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem so the cables and connections are OK. Any suggestions? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Mar 15 19:55:52 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anon_ wrote: > I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and wall > plug) > > I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read B's > hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. > > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel and > set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both computers. > Same setting for both computers. > > Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I click > on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open the > hard drive for computer A. > > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - > cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer or > open the hard drive. > > I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the > problem. > > BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem so > the cables and connections are OK. > > Any suggestions? > > 1. Make sure both computers are in the same workgroup. 2. Make sure both computers have the same protocols installed (preferably TCP/IP and IPX). From user at domain.invalid Tue Mar 15 22:23:57 2005 From: user at domain.invalid (User) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 15.03.2005 21:51, Anon_ wrote: --- Original Message --- > I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and wall > plug) > > I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read B's > hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. > > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel and > set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both computers. > Same setting for both computers. > > Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I click > on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open the > hard drive for computer A. > > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - > cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer or > open the hard drive. > > I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the > problem. > > BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem so > the cables and connections are OK. > > Any suggestions? > > Even though Borgholio started you off with good suggestions, it would help a lot if we knew the operating system for both computers. XP? 98? what? Also, to get the printer to work on Computer "A" you're going to have to install the printer drivers (as a network printer) on that computer but AFTER you get the network established. BTW: Joining the same "workgroup" is probably the most common mistake when beginning. From h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com Tue Mar 15 20:34:14 2005 From: h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com (Anon_) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: "User" wrote in message news:d18ccp$e73$1@news.spamcop.net... > On 15.03.2005 21:51, Anon_ wrote: > > --- Original Message --- > > > I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and wall > > plug) > > > > I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read B's > > hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. > > > > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel and > > set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both computers. > > Same setting for both computers. > > > > Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I click > > on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open the > > hard drive for computer A. > > > > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - > > cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer or > > open the hard drive. > > > > I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the > > problem. > > > > BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem so > > the cables and connections are OK. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Even though Borgholio started you off with good suggestions, it would > help a lot if we knew the operating system for both computers. XP? 98? what? > > Also, to get the printer to work on Computer "A" you're going to have to > install the printer drivers (as a network printer) on that computer but > AFTER you get the network established. > > BTW: Joining the same "workgroup" is probably the most common mistake > when beginning. ** Sorry - w98se I am still trying to get the network established. The workgroups are the same. **Why does computer B recognize the network and computer A does not (can't find network), yet computer B can read the shared items on computer A.*** Seems that is the computer A did not have 'things' shared, computer B could not access them!! Both computers' disks and printers show the 'share' icons. *** From user at domain.invalid Tue Mar 15 22:41:15 2005 From: user at domain.invalid (User) Date: Tue Mar 15 23:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 15.03.2005 22:34, Anon_ wrote: --- Original Message --- > "User" wrote in message > news:d18ccp$e73$1@news.spamcop.net... >> On 15.03.2005 21:51, Anon_ wrote: >> >> --- Original Message --- >> >> > I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and > wall >> > plug) >> > >> > I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read > B's >> > hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. >> > >> > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel > and >> > set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both > computers. >> > Same setting for both computers. >> > >> > Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I > click >> > on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open > the >> > hard drive for computer A. >> > >> > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - >> > cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer > or >> > open the hard drive. >> > >> > I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the >> > problem. >> > >> > BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem > so >> > the cables and connections are OK. >> > >> > Any suggestions? >> > >> > >> >> Even though Borgholio started you off with good suggestions, it would >> help a lot if we knew the operating system for both computers. XP? 98? > what? >> >> Also, to get the printer to work on Computer "A" you're going to have to >> install the printer drivers (as a network printer) on that computer but >> AFTER you get the network established. >> >> BTW: Joining the same "workgroup" is probably the most common mistake >> when beginning. > > ** > Sorry - w98se > > I am still trying to get the network established. > > The workgroups are the same. > > **Why does computer B recognize the network and computer A does not (can't > find network), yet computer B can read the shared items on computer A.*** > > Seems that is the computer A did not have 'things' shared, computer B could > not access them!! Both computers' disks and printers show the 'share' icons. > *** > > Do you have a "name" for both A and B? On B, do START / Find / Computer / enter the name of A Do the same on A Does B find A and A find B ? Headed to the sack, somebody else can pick it up from here. :-) Probably headed in the direction of assigning A and B their own unique IP addresses in the 192.168.1.x range. Nite From MikeE at ster.invalid Wed Mar 16 00:15:05 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Wed Mar 16 03:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: Anon_ wrote: > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control > panel and set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties > for both computers. Same setting for both computers. I suspect something is not the same on both.which has been overlooked. I've had that problem before; it is very frustrating. It might be something wrong with the logon configuration or how the bindings are configured. > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the > message - cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use > the printer or open the hard drive. > Any suggestions? On my win98se LAN, I'm using a switch router to a cable modem and I'm using netbeui for my shares.. These are my settings on all such computers on the network: CP/ Network/ The configuration tab shows icons for Client for MS networks, the ethernet adapter, the netbeui & tcp/ip protocols, and file & printer sharing and sez Primary Network Logon is Windows logon. The identification shows each computer to have a name and all have the same workgroup. The Properties for the Client for MS networks sez Network logon options to be Quick logon. The Properties for the ethernet adapter sez that it has bindings to netbeui & tcp/ip. My netbeui properties sez it is bound to client for ms networks & file&printer sharing for ms networks. My tcp/ip properties sez it obtains an ip address automatically, uses dhcp for WINS resolution, has dns disabled, doesn't enable netbios over tcp/ip, and isn't bound to client for MS networks or file&printer sharing. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com Wed Mar 16 17:16:10 2005 From: dwvbo91q4001 at sneakemail.com (Tim P.) Date: Wed Mar 16 12:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: X-news alteration for header scoring References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Bert Hyman wrote in news:Xns961791C6191DCVeebleFetzer@news.cesmail.net: > In news:Xns96179070E1763dwvbo91q4001sneakema@216.154.195.61 Tim P > wrote: > >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:d0vhb2$spl$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >>> Bert Hyman wrote: >>>>> >>>> The headers that Xnews scores on are those that are included in >>>> the overview records that Xnews retrieves when it gets the list >>>> of unread articles for a group, so the retrieval is essentially >>>> free. >>>> >>>> You can hand-edit the Xnews scorefile (score.ini) and add other >>>> headers to a scoring entry. However, if you do that, Xnews will >>>> have to send an XHDR request to the server for the extra header >>>> fields you want to filter on, which can take a LONG time on >>>> some servers. >> >> The server gives me all the overview records that go with a >> posting so that is not a problem. > > If you want to filter on a header that's not in the overview > record, then it is a problem. > >>> >>> Sounds like Xnews ain't exactly the panacea to the troll that >>> was flooding these groups lately as some folks were espousing, >>> eh? >> >> Yes, and no. Someone in a group posted their X-News scorefile >> section, which contained headers that are supposedly ignored by X- >> News. When I tried to use those to score and filter on, it did >> not work. > > It's possible that the server you're talking to does not implement > the XHDR command which Xnews needs to filter on headers that aren't > in the overview. > > You're also using an old version of Xnews which might not implement > the feature at all. > > Go to http://xnews.newsguy.com/test and take the latest "test" > version. > Thanks, That did the filtering just fine. - -- Tim P Very content SpamCop Subscriber since 4/2002 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0.2 - not licensed for commercial use: www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBQjhplfkOwY5RskHOEQIsFQCeOiwYoWUr1Au8pOED4k78tTk2NXsAoOFh ba9OUM4BNwletrtmKeDyYmqO =mM7e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com Wed Mar 16 19:58:39 2005 From: h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com (Anon_) Date: Wed Mar 16 23:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: "User" wrote in message news:d18dd6$eqa$1@news.spamcop.net... > On 15.03.2005 22:34, Anon_ wrote: > > --- Original Message --- > > > "User" wrote in message > > news:d18ccp$e73$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> On 15.03.2005 21:51, Anon_ wrote: > >> > >> --- Original Message --- > >> > >> > I have two computers connected to a router (thence to a DSL modem and > > wall > >> > plug) > >> > > >> > I want to share hard drives and printers with each other so A can read > > B's > >> > hard drive and use B's printer and vice versa. > >> > > >> > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control panel > > and > >> > set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties for both > > computers. > >> > Same setting for both computers. > >> > > >> > Computer B shows the share icons for the drive and printer and when I > > click > >> > on network neighborhood I can see and use the printer and see the open > > the > >> > hard drive for computer A. > >> > > >> > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the message - > >> > cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use the printer > > or > >> > open the hard drive. > >> > > >> > I followed the help - troubleshooting steps and this did not cure the > >> > problem. > >> > > >> > BTW both computers are able to access the web via that router and modem > > so > >> > the cables and connections are OK. > >> > > >> > Any suggestions? > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Even though Borgholio started you off with good suggestions, it would > >> help a lot if we knew the operating system for both computers. XP? 98? > > what? > >> > >> Also, to get the printer to work on Computer "A" you're going to have to > >> install the printer drivers (as a network printer) on that computer but > >> AFTER you get the network established. > >> > >> BTW: Joining the same "workgroup" is probably the most common mistake > >> when beginning. > > > > ** > > Sorry - w98se > > > > I am still trying to get the network established. > > > > The workgroups are the same. > > > > **Why does computer B recognize the network and computer A does not (can't > > find network), yet computer B can read the shared items on computer A.*** > > > > Seems that is the computer A did not have 'things' shared, computer B could > > not access them!! Both computers' disks and printers show the 'share' icons. > > *** > > > > > > Do you have a "name" for both A and B? > ** Yes they have unique names. All the rest of the network settings are identical. *** > On B, do START / Find / Computer / enter the name of A > > Do the same on A > > Does B find A and A find B ? > *** B finds A, but A does not find B (remember, A did not find the *network* at all.) *** > Headed to the sack, somebody else can pick it up from here. :-) > > Probably headed in the direction of assigning A and B their own unique > IP addresses in the 192.168.1.x range. > ** If A cannot find the *network* what good would assigning individual address do? ** *** Additional question - B has the 'network neighborhood' icon on the desktop but it is not in the 'my computer' list (along with printers, dial-up networking, etc.) How do I get this back in the list? [This is on the computer that can find the network.] *** > Nite From h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com Wed Mar 16 20:15:38 2005 From: h9vzc2i02 at sneakemail.com (Anon_) Date: Wed Mar 16 23:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d18prj$kme$1@news.spamcop.net... > Anon_ wrote: > > I have set share disks and printers in the network in the control > > panel and set the appropriate names etc. in the various properties > > for both computers. Same setting for both computers. > > I suspect something is not the same on both.which has been overlooked. > I've had that problem before; it is very frustrating. It might be > something wrong with the logon configuration or how the bindings are > configured. > > > On computer A, when I click the network neighborhood I get the > > message - cannot find the network!!! And of course cannot see or use > > the printer or open the hard drive. > > > Any suggestions? > > On my win98se LAN, I'm using a switch router to a cable modem and I'm > using netbeui for my shares.. These are my settings on all such > computers on the network: > > CP/ Network/ The configuration tab shows icons for Client for MS > networks, the ethernet adapter, the netbeui & tcp/ip protocols, and file > & printer sharing and sez Primary Network Logon is Windows logon. The > identification shows each computer to have a name and all have the same > workgroup. > ** Both computers are the same - my list is the same as your except for the following: no netbeui (this omission was recommended by others), logon is client for MS network. ** > The Properties for the Client for MS networks sez Network logon options > to be Quick logon. The Properties for the ethernet adapter sez that it > has bindings to netbeui & tcp/ip. My netbeui properties sez it is bound > to client for ms networks & file&printer sharing for ms networks. My > tcp/ip properties sez it obtains an ip address automatically, uses dhcp > for WINS resolution, has dns disabled, doesn't enable netbios over > tcp/ip, and isn't bound to client for MS networks or file&printer > sharing. > ** Both computers are the same - my list is the same as your except for the following: logon is logon and restore... (tried both - did not cure problem), bindings - no netbeui, has dns not disabled. Remember one computer works the other does not - same settings. ** > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > From hee.haw at jack.ass Wed Mar 16 23:19:28 2005 From: hee.haw at jack.ass (DC) Date: Wed Mar 16 23:20:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Dealing with Idiots Message-ID: Some nitwit has been using the mail form on my company's web site to send some harassing messages -- not a major problem, and since it is a web form no mass mailing. But then, I noticed that this individual (assuming it is the same person) has posted "mailto:postmaster@" to some USENET groups -- an attempt at drawing spam to our mail servers. Fortunately, the idiot misspelled our domain so the spam will prolly bounce. If I wanted to attempt legal action, could it be possible to trace their news postings or use the IP address captured by our web mail form to identify the person? Thanks. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Mar 16 20:35:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Mar 16 23:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] RAID Message-ID: I'm preparing to set up RAID-0 on my system, and I'd like any RAID experts to answer a few questions, if you can. :) First, I know that setting up RAID-0 on a non-system drive (D drive) is as easy as plugging the drives into the RAID controller and letting it copy the existing data from Drive 1 to Drive 2. My question revolves around setting up RAID-0 on a system drive (C drive). I've been told that after plugging both drives into the RAID controller, I have to completely erase C drive in order to set up the array. Is this true? Or can I simply set up the array, duplicate C drive, and do a repair install of XP (instead of a complete format)? From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Mar 16 20:40:12 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Mar 16 23:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] RAID Message-ID: I'm preparing to set up RAID-1 on my system, and I'd like any RAID experts to answer a few questions, if you can. :) First, I know that setting up RAID-1 on a non-system drive (D drive) is as easy as plugging the drives into the RAID controller and letting it copy the existing data from Drive 1 to Drive 2. My question revolves around setting up RAID-1 on a system drive (C drive). I've been told that after plugging both drives into the RAID controller, I have to completely erase C drive in order to set up the array. Is this true? Or can I simply set up the array, duplicate C drive, and do a repair install of XP (instead of a complete format)? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Mar 16 22:55:09 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Thu Mar 17 00:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: "Anon_" wrote in message news:d1av9p$rtr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > If A cannot find the *network* what good would assigning individual address > do? > Not mentioned yet, so will toss it out. I is a "known" fact that Win98 networking can take a long time to 'discover' the nerwork devices. On the flip side, there is a "Browsemaster" setting under the Peoperties of the "Microsoft Share ..." found under Control Panel | Network ... it's likely that both systems as set to "Automatic" so they are both trying to 'control' things. You might try to 'diable' the secondary system ..??? > Additional question - B has the 'network neighborhood' icon on the desktop > but it is not in the 'my computer' list (along with printers, dial-up > networking, etc.) How do I get this back in the list? [This is on the > computer that can find the network.] Several 98 systems here ... your machine with the 'network neighborhood' within the 'My Computer' seems to be the exception ...???? Could be as simple as Drag & Drop, but remembering Reg hacks with the CLSID's from years back ... From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Mar 17 09:57:15 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Mar 17 04:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Dealing with Idiots References: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:19:28 -0500, DC coughed into spamcop.geeks and left this in : > If I wanted to attempt legal action, could it be possible to trace their > news postings or use the IP address captured by our web mail form to > identify the person? I wouldn't bother. You're probably going to spend a lot of time and effort only to find that the postings were made and your webform accessed through an open proxy. -- Steve A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Mar 17 01:12:15 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Mar 17 04:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: networking References: Message-ID: Anon_ wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> CP/ Network/ The configuration tab shows icons for Client for MS >> networks, the ethernet adapter, the netbeui & tcp/ip protocols, and >> file & printer sharing and sez Primary Network Logon is Windows >> logon. The identification shows each computer to have a name and >> all have the same workgroup. >> > Both computers are the same - my list is the same as your except for > the following: no netbeui (this omission was recommended by others), > logon is client for MS network. So then you are using tcp/ip for your shares, which means that you must have the tcp/ip bindings checked for Client for MS networks and for File&Printer sharing.for both systems. I would check that on each/both; not assume that it is done. > Remember one computer works the other does not - same settings. We're trying to help find where the settings /aren't/ the same [I think]. It is generally not a black magic issue; it just seems like it sometimes. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From reitanos at comcast.net Thu Mar 17 17:35:55 2005 From: reitanos at comcast.net (reitanos@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 17 12:37:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SpamCop-Geeks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 17 Message-ID: <031720051735.27803.4239BFFB0002904900006C9B22070032019C01020E9B070A9D@comcast.net> do not send anymore e-mails,not interestedFrom nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Mar 17 13:07:00 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Thu Mar 17 14:10:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: SpamCop-Geeks Digest, Vol 42, Issue 17 References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:mailman.116.1111080966.4572.spamcop-geeks@news.spamcop.net... > do not send anymore e-mails,not interested Way to follow the unsubscribe instructions. I'm sure that at least 20 people will jump right on your request and sort things out for you .. (though I'd suggest you actually try to re-read the directions and attempt to unsubscribe correctly as none of those 20+ people actually have the access needed to accomplish anything of the sort) From wb8tyw at qsl.network Thu Mar 17 20:32:12 2005 From: wb8tyw at qsl.network (John E. Malmberg) Date: Thu Mar 17 20:35:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: Dealing with Idiots In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 23:19:28 -0500, DC coughed into spamcop.geeks and > left this in : > >>If I wanted to attempt legal action, could it be possible to trace their >>news postings or use the IP address captured by our web mail form to >>identify the person? > > I wouldn't bother. You're probably going to spend a lot of time and > effort only to find that the postings were made and your webform > accessed through an open proxy. And of course what ever processes the data from your web form should be able to check the popular open proxy lists. Unless your web form is to be used to request an exception to an e-mail blocking list, chances are all connections to it from any listed open proxy address will be for malicious purposes. You may even be able to have your web server deliver a 404 page to connections from open proxies. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only From heybub at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 20:54:34 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Thu Mar 17 21:55:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Geeks] Re: RAID References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I'm preparing to set up RAID-1 on my system, and I'd like any RAID > experts to answer a few questions, if you can. :) First, I know > that setting up RAID-1 on a non-system drive (D drive) is as easy as > plugging the drives into the RAID controller and letting it copy the > existing data from Drive 1 to Drive 2. My question revolves around > setting up RAID-1 on a system drive (C drive). I've been told that > after plugging both drives into the RAID controller, I have to > completely erase C drive in order to set up the array. Is this > true? Or can I simply set up the array, duplicate C drive, and do a > repair install of XP (instead of a complete format)? First, I recommend you get a THIRD drive for hot-swapping. Keep it separate, in a fire safe, etc. That way if your computer gets totally destroyed (fire, theft) you're good to go with another box almost immediately. Once you get your third drive, GHOST your existing drive to it. It's not true you have start a RAID array with formtted drives. Theoretically, setting up a RAID array should NOT tamper, bother, or erase your existing drive. BUT!!! don't count on the RAID process to be benign or it'll break your heart. With a GHOSTed drive, it's straightforward to start ov