From spamcop-help@news.spamcop.net Thu Jan 1 02:08:49 1970 From: spamcop-help@news.spamcop.net (hank@spamcop.net) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 18:08:49 -0800 Subject: [SC-Help] Re: SpamCop-Help digest, Vol 19 #119 - 15 msgs Message-ID: <12A09C3A-1DE4-11B2-B7DD-003065792668@spamcop.net> On Monday, August 19, 2002, > >> Ed Felten makes some disturbing allegations at >> http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000014.html >> >> I think SpamCop may have abused its power here. Please be more careful. > > Heard it all before. Same old lying spammer-whine ("I got shut > down over just one complaint"). Close your mouth. You didn't read the story. And you don't know who you are talking about. And you CAN know, easily. You can look him up: He is a good guy. He is a white hat. All the info is there for you to read. Study! Someone reported legitimate list mail mentioning his site as spam; Spamcop listed it as suspicious; his ISP kneejerked instead of thinking. Everyone then tried to explain a mistake had been made. He found no way could SpamCop to fix a mistake, and he described this on the Risks list. Appropriately. If you don't read comp.risks, you really should have been doing so for the past decade. It's fundamental. The chain of errors that got his site blocked is documented. This Is A Risk Of Computing -- a classic example. It added up to an accidental demonstration that a forger spammer could indeed commit a denial of service attack using SpamCop, knowing many ISPs now close accounts on suspicion and make people prove they're innocent -- or "just wait a week and it'll be delisted if nobody else complains." Bad bug. Please fix.