[SC-Help] Re: Getting balcklisted

[Iain]

Well in fact one of the things I've been planning is that not only would 
there be a confirmatory link (with unique token) for the opt-in, but that 
some of the notifications the person is signing up to receive will need to 
have them come back for a web session. My thought then is that such 
notifications should include a helpful 'quick launch' link to take them to 
the relevant web resource and the URI again carries a unique token. 
Therefore, (provided they use the 'handy link' - which they may or may not 
do) we'd get confirmation that the address was good not only at opt-in, but 
potentially at every use of the link. That would give us something more 
current that just the opt-in confirmation.

.../Iain


"Mike Easter" <MikeE at ster.invalid> wrote in message 
news:cs3j4o$o62$1 at news.spamcop.net...
> Iain wrote:
>> Obviously there is no way to not send the first welcome message and
>> this may go to the wrong person.
>
> Not 'welcome'.  Confirm.
>
> The concept is that someone visits your website and reads the
> information about getting on the list;  ie receiving wanted information
> from you.  They respond to that by putting in their email address.  When
> they do that, they are *not* subscribed.  That email address may be a
> bogus one to cause trouble.  It may be a spamtrap address to cause
> trouble.  Think of yourself as being surrounded by enemies to your
> mailing list who are also enemies of antispam activities, blocklists and
> such as that.  Devious plotters out to get you.
>
> So, now you have an email address which might be real or it might be
> poison.  Handle it carefully.
>
> You email the address a confirmation.  In order to get any more
> information from you, the recipient of the email has to confirm that
> they received the email you sent and that they indeed /do/ want to get
> more mail from you regarding the issue in question.  That confirmatory
> mail contains some way to indicate its uniqueness.  Either in the
> content of the mail which they will be returning with their Reply
> function, or by clicking on a unique link in the email to trip a
> confirmatory website visit which only a recipient of the email could
> perform.
>
> If all of that [either the unique email reply or the unique website
> visit] doesn't happen in confirmation, then the email addy which was
> initially entered at the website isn't subscribed.  The initial email
> addy only becomes subscribed by the process described.
>
> If and only if, when and only when, all of the above has already taken
> place is such an address a valid subscriber.  If all of that, only then
> does that subscribed email address need to unsub [or be invalid] to
> become unsubbed.  And, they should be able to unsub by email or website
> visit;  either one.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Mike Easter
> kibitzer, not SC admin
>