[SC-Help] Re: Getting balcklisted
Mike Easter
MikeE at ster.invalid
Wed Jan 12 09:33:54 EST 2005
Mike Easter wrote:
> If I receive an item which is 'purely' confirmatory, not promoting
> itself or its products or its purpose in any way, and whose entire
> purpose is to tell me that my address has been entered as desirous of
> wanting to be on that mailing list -- and, that in order for me to be
> so subscribed then I must click this link or reply this mail, else
> the subscription process fails -- then I do not report that as spam.
In fact, if the item also included the IP of the browser who entered the
email address, I would be notifying the abuse desk of the provider for
that IP address that their client was bogus subscribing people. Abuse
desk definitely don't like that business; they are very sensitive to
abuse issues because that is their job, and they are highly likely to
take action on the bogus subscribing person. So, the timestamp would be
helpful too, in case the IP was dynamic.
It is more likely for a person who has been bogus subscribed to 'take
some action' against the bogus subscriber by notifying hir provider's
abuse than it is for some kind of 'correspondence' to develop between
the bogus subscribed and the list manager to cause the list manager to
be notifying the bogus subscriber's provider. That is, the list manager
doesn't know any true answers to why a bogus subscription never got
confirmed, so they can't notify anyone. The person who was bogus
subscribed *knows* that they didn't subscribe, so they are in a position
to be notifying the provider for the bogus subscriber.
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
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