[SC-Help] Re: Spam "from" reserved netblocks

[Mike Easter]

Sean Sowell wrote:
> Geoff Lane wrote in

>> Cracked it - I successfully submitted the config confirmation
>> messages by saving as .eml files and sending as attachments. One
>> down, seven to go :)

Let us disregard Geoff's problems with the mailhost configuration which
he solved by using .eml attachments.  Geoff was using The Bat, not OE
and it appears that his problem was some currently unexplained change in
the formatting of the Special Codes section.

That is, talking about Geoff's problem which he has resolved in his own
way already isn't going to help with Sean's problem -- but rather cause
confusion.

> I've been reading along and also set up mailhosts earlier today, but
> SpamCop wouldn't let me forward my account configuration emails as
> attachments. Below is the full message source of the returned
> message, with a few things [munged] for obvious reasons.

Forwarding as attachment [using the menu selection, not an 'artificial'
multistep save as .eml, then Insert/ File attachment] from OE should be
working properly.  Traditionally SC's ability to handle OE's 'forward as
attachment' function has been very reliable.

> Instead I ended up copying and pasting each message source to the top
> window on the http://www.spamcop.net/mcgi?action=mhreturn screen.
> The questions remain though:

Solving a problem for the mailhost configuration should be a very
separate issue from everyday submissions to the parser by email.  If I'm
hearing you correctly, that mailhost configuration issue has been solved
with your own pasting strategy -- so let's don't talk about your
mailhost configuration problem any more.  No talking about Geoff's
mailhost config problem;  no talking about Sean's mailhost config
problem at the same time we are talking about Sean trying to submit
spams to the parser.  Let us now focus on submitting spams to the parser
with Sean's OE by forwarding as attachments using the menu selection
'forward as attachment' only.

> 1.  Why don't my .eml attachments go through?

I recommend to use your forward as attachment function as opposed to
saving an item as .eml and inserting it as an attachment.  If forwarding
as attachment isn't working correctly, there are some 'tricks' to
troubleshooting that here using forwarding to self and posting the
result into the newsgroup spamcop.spam.

> 2.  Do I really have to zip up my .eml files if I want to submit them
> that way going forward?

No.

> 3.  If so, is there a limit to the number of spamples in each zip
> file, or to the total size of each zip file?

Forget about zipping.  That is some kind of server message which doesn't
apply to our current goal.  There is no faq information about zipping
spams for submission to spamcop.

> Geoff seems to be using Outlook Express like I am, since his email
> files end with ".eml".  I'm running OE 6.00.2800.1123 under Win2K SP4.

Geoff has corrected that assumption.  Solving your OE problems /should/
be easy.  I'm understanding that you had some problems configuring your
mailhosts but your mailhost is configured and now all we need to talk
about is troubleshooting problems submitting spams.  That shouldn't be a
big problem.

> FYI, when I first signed up with SpamCop on May 25th I got the same
> error messages trying to submit my first few spamples as attachments.

Let's focus on solving that problem.

> Since then I've been copying and pasting full message sources into
> new messages and sending them to my personal reporting address.  That
> method, though, is rather slow and I'd very much like to forward my
> submissions as attachments.

Yes.

> Also, even though it probably doesn't relate to this situation,
> earlier today I switched from mole to regular reporting status.
>
> Before posting here, I searched forum.spamcop.net for "recent viruses
> or other malware", a string that appears in the autoreply message
> pasted in below..  I reviewed topics 2188, 3696 and 4046 but they did
> not answer my questions.  (No, the message does not contain a virus;
> it is plain text directly from SpamCop.)  I also searched
> news.spamcop.net for the same string but nothing came back.  The FAQ
> does not appear to address this issue.  Also, there seems not to be
> any way to search the spamcop-help or spamcop-list mail archives.
>
> So, here I am!  Hopefully someone with sharper eyes can solve this
> mystery ... ?

> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es)
> failed:
>
>   mhconf.[munge]@cmds.spamcop.net

That problem above is about configuration of hosts.  Let's don't talk
about it.

Let's only talk about problems with submitting spams to the parser and
any errors which arise from normal menu selected 'forward as attachment'
and let's don't be saving the spam as .eml files and let's don't be
zipping anything up.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin