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[SC-Help] Re: spamvertisement reporting & a question...

Mike Easter MikeE at ster.invalid
Thu Jun 9 14:47:57 EDT 2005


Cat wrote:
> Tell that to web based e-mail sites like Yahoo and force them to
> redesign their site so that you can get that info without opening
> spam.

Yes, well I can't fix some things that want to force people to open a
mail to properly access it for reporting.  Naturally I think such
systems should be redesigned.

>I have my settings so that
> images in all e-mail are blocked, so I can open it safely.

There /are/ methods for 'safety-fying' the opening of spam, but some
people are very interested in safetyfying because they /want/ to be
spamreaders.  I just attacked another poor soul today in alt.spam for
being a spamreader.

> Resorting
> to "just hit delete" lets the spammers get away with spamming.

I don't think I was promoting jhd instead of reporting.  My jhd advice
is directed toward people who aren't reporting who I want to delete
their spam unopened rather than opening their spam.

> Then there are also cases like I mentioned in a previous
> post where I would have accidentally deleted important e-mail in a
> few rare cases if I hadn't looked at it because a quick look at the
> subject and from lines looked a little spammy.

If a reporter is reporting all of their spam, the reporting process is
another chance to 'catch' a goodmail which got put into Junk.

When the reporter is reporting something which has headers which contain
spampal or spamassassin Xlines, it is highly unlikely they are going to
report a goodmail -- similarly the reporting process will be displaying
url/s which look spammy or not.

With that 'safety feature' a person could put a doubtful mail into Junk
without opening it.  Then when they parsed their Junk, its goodmail
header qualities would be displayed.  That 'program' assumes something
like a spampal proxy.  Having spampal examine your mail's headers and
interior is better than you reading subjects and froms and trying to
figure out what is spam and ham.  Also faster.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin




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