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[SC-Help] Re: Help me guys, whats going on?

Mike Richter mrichter at cpl.net
Sun Jun 12 08:56:22 EDT 2005


Kristoffer Lein wrote:

> In article <d8cm6u$5ct$1 at news.spamcop.net>,
>  Mike Richter <mrichter at cpl.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Your outgoing mail was sent from an (unidentified) IP address which was 
>>placed on a blocklist, presumably for being used by a spammer. You are 
>>not necessarily the spammer; indeed, it might only be that your IP 
>>address is a neighbor of that of a spammer.
> 
> 
> Is this my ISP's smtp-server that is blacklisted?
> 
> 
> 
>>Since the blocklist cited is not SpamCop's, there is nothing to be done 
>>here. If you will provide the IP address, those expert in such matters 
>>can give more information. (Indeed, they may be willing to track it down 
>>from the sending domain, but the address of the server is both easier to 
>>use and able to give unambiguous results.)
> 
> 
> Tell me what IP you need Mike, I will post it to you. I didn't post the 
> email addresses for obvious reasons.
> 
> 
> 
>>The solution is to send e-mail from a 'clean' IP address. If you cannot 
>>persuade your ISP to do due diligence, then you may have to have 
>>recourse to a supplemental account (Yahoo!, hotmail, etc.).
> 
> 
> Will it solve the problem if I set up a local smtp?

1. Yes, it is your ISP's SMTP server that found its way onto a blacklist.

2. The IP address needed is that which was blacklisted, usually that 
from which the bounced e-mail was sent. However, I repeat that there are 
experts on this list; I am far from that so I urge you not to suggest 
private dialogue. (I have in fact done a bit of the diagnostic work 
others here accomplish routinely. My conclusion was that they have the 
skills and tools; I might acquire them with dedication I lack.)

3. Unfortunately, as long as you are using a bad server address, you'll 
be stuck with what else is sent from it. Note that many blacklists 
believe in guilt by association: if you are in a block with notorious 
spammers, you may be listed. SpamCop used that approach only briefly and 
returned to 'innocent until proven guilty' - a policy to which it now 
adheres.

If there were a credible identification of the source below IP address, 
no doubt that would be used and problems such as yours would vanish. 
Unfortunately, the only lower-level information the protocol allows is 
 From and Reply to - both of which are forged routinely.

Mike
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mrichter at cpl.net
http://www.mrichter.com/



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