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[SC-Help] Re: Blocked? Read this.

Miss Betsy nobody at devnull.spamcop.net
Fri Mar 11 07:52:21 EST 2005


<snip>
> So, what is that got to do with my issue with SpamCop, or even
with my
> actual Optonline IP? Just for your knowledge most, if not all
cable service
> provider issues DHCP IPs for their subscribers. Should I shut
down my cable
> modem, then the next time I'll have a different IP address. That
IP might
> already be on the SpamCop BL despite the fact, that I have
nothing to do
> with the previous history of the IP address currently assigned to
me. That's
> not fair and this where SpamCop is dead wrong for listing cable
providers'
> dynamically assigned IP addresses. They are not blocking spemmers
IPs all
> the time, they BL also blocks legitimate email traffic.

Life isn't fair.  There are all kinds of hoops that we go through
every day because a few people are crooks or incredibly
inconsiderate of others or incredibly stupid or incredibly selfish.
We pay more at the checkout because of shoplifters, etc., etc.  I
have never in my life written a check for more than I had in the
bank, yet I have to show photo ID.  and there are lots more.

<snip>
> If spam fighting is a war, then we are loosing judging by the
percentage of
> spam increase on my spam filtering server at work since lart
year. You might
> of had to deal with collateral damage related to the zombie home
PCs, but I
> have to addresses lost businesses because SpamCop's action. Our
business
> relies heavily on the email systems and we most certainly would
not do
> anything to hurt our own business by sending out spam. We do
require from
> our email server to auto-reply to undeliverable emails due to the
business
> requiremnents. Our clients and partners do require notification
should email
> not reach the intended recipient. My company can loose money, if
our email
> servers aren't doing this. This is RFC822 compliant and SpamCop
should not
> arbitrary change the RFC.

It is very simple to reject email at the server level instead of
after acceptance and accomplish your goal of not losing any email.
You can also filter through to weed out the legitimate ones and dev
null the rest.  This is a case of who is being inconvenienced
more - your company or the thousands of people who are
inconvenienced by receiving your back scatter.

<snip>
The worst is that in the
> US anyone is considered innocent until proven guilty. The
exception is
> SpamCop where they pronounce you guilty and then you have jump
through loops
> to prove that your are not guilty.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

 And for what? Marginal effect at best to
> the Spam emails. SpamCop's action does hurt legitimate businesses
and does
> nothing to the spammers. The spammers can switch email servers on
a dime,
> but I cannot. My only options are to change the server IP
address, or hope
> that there will be no other self rightious people who forgot that
they did
> actually subscribe to your email notification.

I doubt that it will be a marginal effect to the spammers.  That's
what people said when open proxies were first reported - I am
innocent; don't pick on me.

Miss Betsy




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