[SC-Help] Re: Unstoppable picture spam.

[Mike Easter]

antioch wrote:
> "Mike Easter"

>> trimming and
>> contextualizing

> I already do - we call it 'clipping' - some dont like it in
> msnewsgroups.

I leave the MS MVPs alone about their shabby posting style when I'm
participating in MS public ng/s, but if MVP gurus top post when they are
'outside' in the normal usenet I beat them up about it.  Not only do I
beat them up about top posting outside of MS ng/s, but I also beat them
up for 'causing' the MS ng/s to be in such a condition, and for badly
'training' by example or guiding all of the newbies who start usenet
participation in the MS ng/s.  The rest of usenet and ng/s are *not*
like the MS groups.  Very very few ng/s are like that.

> I do it all the time -

I noticed that earlier sometimes you /were/ contextualizing.

>  its a personal issue anyhow -
> like top or bottom posting.

It is a lot more than a 'personal' issue -- there is no such thing being
discussed as 'bottom' posting.  Top posting is untrimmed
noncontextualized posting up above everything else with an additional
failure to 'organize' the cite attributions because there is no
meaningful citing and attributing because there is no trimming or
contextualizing.

The opposite of top posting is trimmed and contextualized -- not
untrimmed noncontextualized posting down underneath everything else on
the 'bottom'.  An untrimmed and thus non-contextualized bottom post is
its own problem, which problem is often bandied about by top posters who
think it is a top vs bottom issue, like left handed and right handed.

That means that the topposter makes a complete mess of a thread because
of the disruption of the order of the conversation -- and no one else
can fix it without completely disassembling and reconstructing the top
poster's remark;  or alternatively aggressively chopping off everything
which had ever preceded the top poster's remark which pushed all that
preceding down below.

> I guess you do it slightly different here from what I have just read.
> When things get long and complicated and you dont bottom post, you
> get a smack - certainly if you dont clip/trim parts of the post.

Trimming is at the top of the list.  If the replier starts by trimming,
everything else about the contextualization comes naturally.



-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin