[SpamCop-List] Re: Hardcode request -- Telodigm / thePowerBall.com / wickedspeed.net

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1 Feb 2001 20:32:48 GMT


All right, General Julian, let's get to war. :)

In article <3A79BF82.94478773>,
Argyle  <service> wrote:
>Telodigm: the update..
>
>RW wrote:
>> 
>> Argyle wrote:
>> 
>> > These guys are quickly turning into my pet spammers.
>> 
>> ROFL.  Some of us adopted them months ago.
>
>Yeah, smirk.  I know.  They got my attention when they started blocking
>my DNS requests.  Ya hear that spammers!?  Don't play games like this or
>you will become my #1 priority.
>
>Just talked to chris @ internap where they had their webservers most
>recently.  He says they are nuked for good from that network.  No chance
>of signing up with a different alias.  We'll see.
>
>Also talked to ? (chris also?) at level3.  Level3 is doing some really
>stupid things, and the abuse folks there don't like it any more than we
>do.  Chris was totally frustrated and said (in not so many words) that
>she thought they should have been nuked already.  But they aren't. 
>Level3 is making them sign a "letter of understanding" stating they
>won't violate the AUP again.  If they do, they get 24 hours to pack up
>their toys and go home.  Way too lax given their history.  They shold
>have been nuked long ago.  This decision comes down from management, and
>the abuse people don't understand or agree with it.  Another big, black
>mark for level3.
>
>Which brings me to:
>
>RW wrote:
>> 
>> This seems like one more notch that could be used against them for an
>> RBL nomination... evading complaints by blocking your server.  I believe
>> it's Bryan who has an open ticket with MAPS.  Would you give him
>> permission to use your info as supporting information for his
>> nomination?
>
>Absolutely.  I'll be happy to help in any way I can.
>
>JT wrote:
>> 
>> You could reroute all DNS requests to another DNS server. IOW, set up
>> sam as a caching, forwarding DNS server. This server could be under your
>> control, donated by an anonymous party, or a totally unrelated server,
>> possibly rotated as needed. ns.<insertbigisphere>.com will almost always
>> work. Is that considered bad? Probably, so it's a last resort.
>
>Good idea.  I got the same advice from Alan Brown.  I never knew how to
>set this up until now.  Learn something new every day.  Spamcop seems to
>be avoiding the blockade just fine now.  I have a request in with AOL to
>see if I can forward requests through their dns if need-be. We'll see
>what they say about that.  I may also contact uunet about using their
>servers.  I'm not going to use any servers I'm not authorized to use of
>course.
>
>> Since the spammers are expecting hits on their nameserver, I think it
>> will be difficult for them to track who's doing the lookups and which
>> one is the stealth spamcop lookup. 
>
>Well, I have some ideas about how they could figure out which servers
>I'm using, but I won't get into the details for obvious reasons.  At any
>rate, if I use a couple of $BIGISP servers, they would be shooting
>themselves in the foot to block them anyway.  So I think I will win this
>particular game.
>
>-=Julian=-