[SpamCop-List] Re: Hardcode request -- Telodigm / thePowerBall.com / wickedspeed.net
Who Cares?
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1 Feb 2001 20:32:48 GMT
All right, General Julian, let's get to war. :)
In article <3A79BF82.94478773>,
Argyle <service> wrote:
>Telodigm: the update..
>
>RW wrote:
>>
>> Argyle wrote:
>>
>> > These guys are quickly turning into my pet spammers.
>>
>> ROFL. Some of us adopted them months ago.
>
>Yeah, smirk. I know. They got my attention when they started blocking
>my DNS requests. Ya hear that spammers!? Don't play games like this or
>you will become my #1 priority.
>
>Just talked to chris @ internap where they had their webservers most
>recently. He says they are nuked for good from that network. No chance
>of signing up with a different alias. We'll see.
>
>Also talked to ? (chris also?) at level3. Level3 is doing some really
>stupid things, and the abuse folks there don't like it any more than we
>do. Chris was totally frustrated and said (in not so many words) that
>she thought they should have been nuked already. But they aren't.
>Level3 is making them sign a "letter of understanding" stating they
>won't violate the AUP again. If they do, they get 24 hours to pack up
>their toys and go home. Way too lax given their history. They shold
>have been nuked long ago. This decision comes down from management, and
>the abuse people don't understand or agree with it. Another big, black
>mark for level3.
>
>Which brings me to:
>
>RW wrote:
>>
>> This seems like one more notch that could be used against them for an
>> RBL nomination... evading complaints by blocking your server. I believe
>> it's Bryan who has an open ticket with MAPS. Would you give him
>> permission to use your info as supporting information for his
>> nomination?
>
>Absolutely. I'll be happy to help in any way I can.
>
>JT wrote:
>>
>> You could reroute all DNS requests to another DNS server. IOW, set up
>> sam as a caching, forwarding DNS server. This server could be under your
>> control, donated by an anonymous party, or a totally unrelated server,
>> possibly rotated as needed. ns.<insertbigisphere>.com will almost always
>> work. Is that considered bad? Probably, so it's a last resort.
>
>Good idea. I got the same advice from Alan Brown. I never knew how to
>set this up until now. Learn something new every day. Spamcop seems to
>be avoiding the blockade just fine now. I have a request in with AOL to
>see if I can forward requests through their dns if need-be. We'll see
>what they say about that. I may also contact uunet about using their
>servers. I'm not going to use any servers I'm not authorized to use of
>course.
>
>> Since the spammers are expecting hits on their nameserver, I think it
>> will be difficult for them to track who's doing the lookups and which
>> one is the stealth spamcop lookup.
>
>Well, I have some ideas about how they could figure out which servers
>I'm using, but I won't get into the details for obvious reasons. At any
>rate, if I use a couple of $BIGISP servers, they would be shooting
>themselves in the foot to block them anyway. So I think I will win this
>particular game.
>
>-=Julian=-