[SpamCop-List] Re: Malwasher bounces

Guy Macon spamcop-list@news.spamcop.net
Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:04:14 -0800



YK <YKnot> wrote:

>So polluting more is OK with you?

Do you drive a motor vehicle or heat your house?  Both increase 
pollution.  The question is how much poluution, and what the 
benefits are.

Looking at only costs or only at benefits is stupid.  You need to
look at both.  The costs are real but very small - the difference 
between receiving 20,000 bounces and recieving 20,001 bounces.
The benefits are real (but, it seems, difficult to understand;
see below.) and reasonably large.

>> On the other hand, if someone you know sends you an email that is
>> improperly identified as spam, they will assume that you ignored
>> them - unless they receive a bounce message.
>
>Not true.   The email will be in the list and you can deselect it and add
>the user to your friends list and then handle it by your email client.

Please explain how I am supposed to know which of the thousands of
emails in my spam folder isn't a spam.  That's what we are talking 
about here - emails that have been misclassified (by a human or a 
computer program) as spam when they are not spam.   I can't deselect 
it because I don't know it's there.  I can't add it to my friends list
because I don't know it's there.  If, however, I send a bounce to every
spam (including emails that have been misclassified as spam when they 
are not spam. then the person who sent the legitimate email gets a 
bounce message and knows that the email wasn't read.  And some poor
victim of a joe job gets 0.0001% more traffic.

I am still waiting for someone to explain to me why it is that sending
bounces to emails that are addressed to users that don't exisyt on 
the server is allowed.  Every argument I have heard against bouncing 
emails identified (perhps falsely) as spam is a better argument against
bouncing emails to users that don't exist.

Unless, of course, polluting is O.K. with you...