[SpamCop-List] Re: legitimate hotmail email blocked
Fri Feb 7 12:05:35 EST 2003
"Tom" <nospam> wrote in message
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 02:42:03 +0100, "DaZZle"
> <super_sjaakie> wrote:
> >However, I
> >think the blocking filter should be less strict on hotmail addresses.
> >mail was not a mass mail, it was only send by hotmail to me...
> How do you know it wasn't a mass mailing (UBE)?
I know my spam from mail send directly to me!
This was a mailing that went to 5 people only. In it was a dutch message
from a friend of mine to me and other friends of mine about a meeting we
will have IRL (and I know all these people IRL)
> Many spams I receive do not have any other addresses involved in the
> To: or CC: fields.
Yes, there could be more email addresses in BCC, but I see no reason why she
> I can send mail to two to a thousand users (I don't, by the way) and
> not one of them will see any address except their own.
> Hotmail is a problem source of spam because, for all intents and
> purposes, hotmail accounts are throw-away. Spammy sets up an account
> and uses it to spam until it gets shut down. He sets up a bunch of
> them and they happen to be in an IP block... creating the appearance
> of moving around the block and so the blacklist lists the block. If
> you happen to be getting mail from that block, then it gets blocked.
This is true I think, but most of my friends have hotmail addresses and as
you can see I use one myself when posting on the internet. I don't want
hotmail to get blocked. Of course I can put in an extra rule to whitelist
all hotmail addresses, I've done that now, but I think spamcop would be
better if it wouldn't block legitimate hotmail emails. It is better to leave
a few spams through then to block one legitimate mail.
> There are tools that are specific to addresses that would likely serve
> your needs better than the blacklist.
> For instance, I use Forte Agent as my mail program (it doesn't work
> with any of MS's systems, such as MSN or Hotmail) and have every
> legitimate address go to specific folders. I have less than one
> percent of all mail received drop into my spam buckets that are
> So... you should consider using a good filtering tool and not use the
I use spampal and it works very well. I also get only 1% of legitimate mail
blocked using it. However I think 1% is still too much. I know that
new-letters etc. tend to get blocked, but normal mail should not. That's why
I post this message, maybe somthing can be improved about it.
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