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[SpamCop-List] Re: biggest isp in India SPAMMING?

Michael Lefevre michael.spamcop at michaellefevre.com
Wed Apr 21 16:39:14 EDT 2004


Marjolein Katsma wrote:
> Michael Lefevre (michael.spamcop at michaellefevre.com) wrote in 
> news:c65s83$2l0$2 at news.spamcop.net:
>
>>> As a recipient of unsollicited email you simply *cannot* determine if 
>>> something was "bulk" or not.
>> 
>> Not with certainty, but it's actually quite easy to make 
> determinations
>> in most cases.
>
> How would you make such a determination? *Nothing* in the mail itself 
> would indicate it - with a few rare exceptions (like when a mail is sent 
> by a professional bulk mailer).
>
> You can make a guess - but that's not the same thing as a 
> "determination".

Well I'd say that if you make a guess, you have made a determination.
Depends on how you're defining the word "determination", but that's just
quibbling about the wording.

>> I am sure, for example, that if you looked at the last 50 messages
>> you've received, you could figure out which ones had been sent to many
>> other people, and which had not.
>
> No, I could not, I could guess only.

And your guesses would probably be accurate in the majority of cases. I'm
not saying that it's possible to make accurate determinations 100% of the
time, I'm just saying those "guesses" can be accurate enough for practical
purposes, and therefore a definition of spam as UBE can also be used in 
practice.

-- 
Michael


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