[SpamCop-List] Re: Hotmail spam with non-hotmail return paths

[Mike Easter]

Scott Jordan wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience with hotmail server spam which does
> not have a @hotmail.com address in the return path?

My experience in the past has been to not be notifying hotmail about
that which you should be notifying msn or microsoft about.  They do not
share the same abuse desk and they do not pass things on to each other.
If you are confused over an issue, send it to all of them.

The source IP is 64.4.22.60  rDNS  bay23-f10.bay23.hotmail.com  whose
notify is  abuse at microsoft.com

The client looks like peterwhite at fsbinternationalbankplc.net
fsbinternationalbankplc.net  rDNS  65.54.132.254  whose notify is
abuse at microsoft.com

The other provider is 80.179.243.2  rDNS  80.179.243.2.ispeednet.net
notify the .il   Abuse-gilat at 012.net.il and I would also add
abuse at 012.net.il  & dnsreg at 012.net.il  and maybe throw in one or two
more because of language postmaster at linux.goldenlines.net.il &
postmaster at goldenlines.net.il    Golden lines is the routing parent for
gilat

inetnum:      80.179.243.0 - 80.179.243.31
netname:      Gilat-ART1822
route:        80.179.128.0/17
descr:        Golden Lines

I don't think it would hurt to add msn's and hotmail's abuse desks, but
I personally think microsoft's is the one, especially since you've
determined that hotmail isn't interested abuse at hotmail.com &
abuse at msn.com [both doubtful]

> Does anyone know what it takes to get hotmail/msn to address these?

Get the right desk between hotmail, msn, & microsoft.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin