[SpamCop-List] Re: dispute listing of ip 188.8.131.52
Kilgallen at SpamCop.net
Wed Dec 29 11:41:20 EST 2004
In article <cqui6k$hbl$1 at news.spamcop.net>, geo_splash_12 <nospam at nospam.org> writes:
> Wouldn't an opt-in system be a better solution to prevent that itunes is
> delivered to unverified e-mail addresses which could be a cause for
> triggering a spamtrap within the spamcop system?
It would be, but I have not seen an answer as to whether they
are using one or not. (By opt-in, I presume you mean _confirmed_
> Larry Kilgallen wrote:
>> But looking at
>> we see
>> System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week
>> (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided
>> by SpamCop)
> I've seen the same thing happening with divx newsletters and probably
> also newsletters which are perfectly valid. I'm not sure what the
> problem with spamcop is, but, this is the second time I see that news
> digest are listed in spamcop whereas they should not.
They should if they were sent to someone who had not requested them.
>> Since delisting will not be for another 17 hours, this IP address
>> has obviously been listed for a while now. Since Apple has not felt
>> confident enough to invoke the one-time-only emergency procedure on
>> that page, what makes you so confident the listing is in error ?
> The error is that the itunes newsletter should not have entered the
> spamcop system at all.
It should if it was sent to someone who did not request it.
>> Oh look, it has been listed 10 times in the past 105 days !
>> Perhaps Apple is right that they have a problem.
> Maybe somebody entered a spamtrap e-mail address by accident when he/she
> filled out the itunes newsletter form. I don't know.
That would be caught by the methodology described at the URL below.
>> If you subscribe to this newsletter, tell us whether it conforms
>> in every way to
> I don't recall a confirmation when subscribing to the apple itunes
> newsletter. This may very well be the problem.
Certainly that would be a major cause of Apple sending spam.
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