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[SpamCop-List] Re: Great. Now it's my turn to get blocked.

Michael Lefevre michael.spamcop at michaellefevre.com
Mon Jan 26 01:45:50 EST 2004


Mike Easter wrote:
> Michael Lefevre wrote:
[snip]
>> For the spamtrap headers I've seen, I would think it's quite unlikely
>> that a parse could go wrong. If it does, it's the person running the
>> spamtrap that has the problem.  I don't think that particular issue
>> is likely to be a problem.
>
> Maybe I /still/ don't understand the nature of a spamtrap.  I tho't that
> the spamtrap was supposed to be a virgin addy, never exposed other than
> in some manner that only a /web/ cruising bot might grab it, but that it
> was likely to be a rather 'common' or ordinary username [as opposed to
> big bad random] so that typical dictionary attacks would hit it.

I don't know for sure, but that's my understanding as well.

> Further, that the spamtrap was on 'autopilot' and unattended, that no
> one, including a deputy, saw the parse of the spamtrap spamitem, but
> that it generated a spamtrap hit with no report, sorta like a mole on
> autopilot.

That's correct.  Deputies can go in and look at the spamtrap parses
afterwards, in the same way that deputies can look at other stuff (and the
same way that anyone can see someone else's parse if they have the
tracking URL).

> If you are saying a *person* [hopefully one who knows what headers look
> like] is actually overseeing the parse and approving it in much the same
> way a 'normal' report would be overseen, that would be reassuring.
[snip]
> How do you mean "the person running the spamtrap"?  A spamtrap
> 'non-report' is somehow 'in the hands of' or overseen by a person?  And
> then that person approves the non-report, sorta like a mole?

Sorry - what I wrote was misleading, and it's neither of those.  I meant
that if the parse goes wrong and Spamcop decides the chain is broken too
early, then Spamcop will finger the server where the spamtrap is hosted,
and that server will end up getting listed.  By "person", I meant the
admin/owner of that server, who will have their server listed incorrectly.
They're only "running the spamtrap" in the sense that they have their
server set up to receive email for an address and relay it to Spamcop's
servers.

-- 
Michael


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