[SpamCop-List] Re: RFC ignorant?
nobody at spamcop.net
Thu Jan 29 21:29:51 EST 2004
Mike Easter (MikeE at ster.invalid) wrote in news:bvbrjk$2d8$1
>> Shouldn't there be a working postmaster addy for control-f1.net ?
> Yes, but....
Submitted my two samples... see reply to Frank.
> I think a stupid-gram reply would depend on who sent it. If it were
> sent by an enduser, I would ignore it.
I probably would, too - but I haven't encountered such (yet).
> If it were sent by a mailer-daemon with no reply addy available, I
> might be doing a manual notify to the abuse addy or ignoring it.
I don't want to ignore those - there still is a person _responsible_ for
the mailer-daemon. (Actually, I got a very nice example of that for a
mail list that I'm a member of and for which a mail was bounced due my
SCBL blocking; it told me it's a program, and also told me who its boss
is. I sent a note back to the boss.) So if the mailer-daemon is sending
me a stupid-gram I *will* try to contact whoever its boss is.
> If I were interested in starting a project to find out how many pm/s
> don't properly exist/ receive/ and reporting them to rfc-ignorant, I
> guess I would send it to the pm first and the abuse addy and the
> parent, in this case, second.
Yes .... but I'm not starting a project here. I'm merely interested in
complaining to whoever is responsible for the stupid-grams telling me
that *I* have sent them a virus, which I didn't, and telling them that
their mails are part of the problem, not a solution.
> So, for manual, non-spamcop issues, it is not unusual for me to
> have about 4 notifies in the To: if there isn't a 'good' one that I've
> actually seen 'in print' not 'made-up' by abuse.net. All of those
> 'people' can see whereall it went and 'sort it out' for themselves.
> I'm not interested in hearing back from them about where I should have
> sent it the first time, I want to be through with it.
So: gather all possible & likely addresses and then shoot off one nasty-
gram in response to the stupid-gram? Sounds like a good idea.
Now, suppose I get a stupid-gram _from_ postmaster @ stupid.com (hasn't
happened this time around, but it *has* happened with Klez - would it be
reasonable to assume that that postmaster addy actually exists, so there
is no need to gather any more addresses? Or would you add addresses
Marjolein Katsma - Amsterdam, NL - http://hshelp.com/
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Cyveillance steals resources: they're my enemy.
The enemy of my enemy can be my enemy, too.
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