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[SpamCop-List] Re: What some registrars accept as whois info ....

Anonymous none at domain.invalid
Sun Jul 18 11:31:15 EDT 2004


"Karl-Josef Ziegler" <kjz at despammed.com> wrote in message
news:cdduhg$r7d$1 at news.spamcop.net...
> Yes, I did this also:
>
> - false contact info i.e. Yahoo email isn't valid
>    or canceled because of spamming
>
> - invalid Whois info larted via ICANN to registrar
>
> - registrar does nothing, also larted registrar to ICANN
>
> Result: nothing...

I, too, have a similar experience. I reported the spamvertised website's
registration email address to Yahoo, I reported the spamvertised website to
their Registrar and their web host and their web host's upstream provider
(per the CIDR Report), I reported to the Registrar's web host (to try to get
THEM to put some pressure on the Registrar to shut down the spamvertised
website), I reported to Internic.net, I reported to ICANN... nothing.
Nothing was done to shut down the spamvertised website.

I think it's time for someone to write a comprehensive article detailing
just how effective spam reporting is, when the ENTIRE CHAIN of reporting the
spam does nothing, despite the fact that a large portion of that reporting
chain is specifically FOR shutting down spammers. Then submit that article
to the AP newswire. Some publicity might get them off their collective asses
and get them doing something about the problem.

Meanwhile, I'm resorting to my only recourse... I'm hammering the hell out
of the spamvertised websites with my SpamVampire
(http://www.hillscapital.com/antispam/index.htm). Feel free to grab the
source code and set up a SpamVampire for your own purposes. It's effective,
especially if you run your browser through an anonymous proxy rotator
program, and contact the spammers to let them know that you'll be hitting
their website(s) because they sent you spam.

They can't stop you, unless they want to spend all their time blocking the
IP addresses of a constantly rotating (and frequently updated) list of
anonymous proxies. They can't attack your machines, because they never see
your IP address.

A side benefit is that the overwhelming majority of these anonymous proxies
were SET UP BY THE SPAMMERS! So, rather than having the bandwidth of those
proxies used to send spam, it's used to fight spam. And the additional
bandwidth put through the proxies usually awakens the owner/operator of that
machine to the fact that there's something wrong with that machine, and it
eventually gets secured (the quickest way to get a machine secured is to
abuse it for a while).

The spammers will quickly learn to avoid sending spam to your domain.



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