[SpamCop-List] Re: So how does it work?
no_one at noplace.org
Fri Jul 23 14:02:04 EDT 2004
"Doug Thegarden" <DougThegarden at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cdrmt7$pa7$1 at news.spamcop.net...
> Redstone wrote:
> > Doug Thegarden <DougThegarden at hotmail.com> wrote in
> > news:cdr0af$gps$1 at news.spamcop.net:
> >>Gezgin wrote:
> >>>Probably both. P. T. Barnum famously said there was a sucker
> >>>born every minute. On the internet, the rate of sucker
> >>>propagation is massively greater than that.
> >>Yes but in his day you could only access a few hundred/thousand
> >>people at time so the rate of new sucker creation greatly exceeded
> >>the rate at which you could sucker them. These days with access
> >>to billions of people at a time I would have thought that the
> >>sucker pool would be heavily overphished.
> > There is some people out there that end up being scammed over and
> > over again.
> > However, a big chunk of ISPs out there dev/null the incoming of scams
> > so that any of the would-be suckers never see that "too good" deal.
> So if most never see the too good deals those ones that end up being
> scammed over and over again must be very thick with infinitely deep bank
> accounts. Can't see there being too many of those around to keep all
> those spammers in Porsches.
I don't believe that a big chunk of the ISPs are screening these scams. I
have a few examples. Two of my neighbors who use a different but large ISPs
than I do have gotten PayPal, EBay and Citibank scam mails. Yesterday my
wife received a scam email proportedly from our ISP. This one was to verify
credit card information or they would turn of our connection. She isn't
even the owner of the account. I forwarded the email to
scam-abuse at isp.net. She received an email telling her that there was a scam
so don't reply to emails asking for cc info. I happened know about the scam
which started in January. I go there to check emails or network status
occassionally which is how I found out. Just for drill I sent an email to
customer care (I use the term loosely) asking them why they had not sent
emails out regarding this scam. They replied saying "thanks for the
suggestion blah, blah, blah". Here is the worst one I've seen regarding
ISP taking responsibility and blocking these scams. I caught this one on my
ISP's internal help news group. You can chalk this one up to oursourcing.
She received the scam email. She did the smart this and called customer
care (located in India) who didn't understand what she was asking. She
asked to speak to a superviser. The person came back and said there were
none available but it was okay to respond. She then posted the incident to
the help group since what she was told did not make sense.
The bottom line is that some people will respond to anything received in
email. It came from the internet therefore it must be true. ISPs do have
some responsibility but they cannot babysit the masses. Maybe they should
require a certification test prior to giving out accounts ;-)
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