[SpamCop-List] Re: [media] "When Software Fails to Stop Spam, It's Time to Bring In the Detectives"

[Paul Johnson]

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"Frog Prince" <me at privacy.net> writes:

> "Paul Johnson"
> | > I've never seen a document system using PDF that worked as sold.
> |
> | I've never seen a document management system, regardless of preferred
> | file format, work as advertised, so we're even.  8:o)
>
> Perhaps I should has stated it more succinctly.  I've never seen a doc
> management system based on PDF that worked, period.

That's besides the point, though.  You're still faulting the file
format for something it has no control over.  Just because some moron
thought it would be a good idea to use that file format in his broken
document management system is by no means the file format's fault
(unless it was created exclusively for said obnoxious software, but
PDF is just encapsulated postscript...probably the only truly software
agnostic page description format we have.

> | > A lot of companies go to PDF as it is the 'standard' without knowing
> | > what they are getting into or it's effects on their customers.  End
> | > users (especially technical types) 'live with it' because they don't
> | > have effective alternatives and zero input into the process.
> |
> | But I *like* PDF.  It's encapsulated postscript actually done right.
>
> I don't know what you do or how you use PDF but for the level and
> complexity of the documents I use regularly PDF is not a desirable
> selection.

Better than some proprietary office suite format when you have to give
someone something and you want it to know how it's going to print on
their end before you send it.  Generally, presentability is something
I care about when it comes to my work.  PDF gives me that, and that's
not something any other format offers with any real regularity.  PDF
Just Works.

> | > You mention kpdf Just Works. What is this and were can I go to
> | > check it out?
> |
> | kpdf is not available for Windows.  kpdf is the default PDF viewer in
> | KDE (so it's available to pretty much everyone but windows users).
>
> Unfortunately the vast majority of what I deal with are windows based user
> systems.   I was hoping I'd found a magic bullet solution.

You did.  You can find a worse solution, you just have to spend more
money to paint yourself into that corner.

- -- 
Paul Johnson
<baloo at ursine.ca>
Linux.  You can find a worse OS, but it costs more.
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