[SpamCop-List] Re: SpamCop message listed as "Origin Blacklisted"

[Mike Easter]

makbil wrote:
> How about a combination? For starters you can eliminate about 30-35%
> (by your figure) of spam mail right at the server-this is pretty good
> considering you don't have to lift a finger. For the remaining spam a
> client side filter using a list with a decent control mechanism.

Someone /could/ use EL's Brightmail 'in front of' their own SpamPal
between them and their POP, but I wouldn't because I want to 'get' all
of my spam, I would just want it already sorted into its own Junk
folder.  That is, if I got any spam to speak of, which I don't.

If someone wanted to 'dispose of' a certain percentage of their spam
before they got it, to debulk, then, yes, they would EL Brightmail it
first and then SpamPal 'tag' the rest of it.  The SpamPal tagger could
fine tune to eliminate or divert almost all of their spam into the Junk
folder.

Somewhere along the way I would hope that they were feeding spamcop, so
as to enhance the SCbl and notify the various providers, instead of just
filtering away.

> Just have to remember that the majority
> of users out there have no interest in the intricate workings of a
> spam filter, they just want spam to go away.

It is hard to say what the majority of people want.  Some people like to
read some spam.  Other people are pledged differently   Still other
people don't mind 'getting' spam, as long as it isn't in their Inbox.
They take a certain pleasure in periodically going to their Junk folder
and massively deleting a ton of spam at one time.

If I were going to 'coach' each person how to manage their Inbox, the
first thing I would do would be to eliminate their annoyance and
frustration with any spam.  Then, if they wanted to participate in the
fun of the sport of spamfighting, I would teach them how to do that
next.  By degrees.  Start with feeding spamcop.  Then learn how to parse
headers from spamcop until they were better.  Then learn how to notify
better than spamcop.  Then learn how to chase redirected spamvertised
sites down.  I suppose honey pots and such would come next.  Fried seems
a little much.


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin