[SpamCop-List] Re: Beware of MAILHOSTS !!!

[Marjolein Katsma]

GV (nobody at spamcop.net) wrote in news:c3ih6a$trj$1 at news.spamcop.net:

>> > Have you read my example? Correct is better than wrong, isn't it?
>>
>> I never had any "wrong" - so how do you improve on that?
> 
> Other people had problems. How ignorant someone must be if he refuses
> any progress only because it does not affect himself but only others??
> If I do not have any problems anymore, too, then it is an improvement
> even if you were lucky enough before...

Don't call me ignorant. I know theer are people having problems.

A major part of the solution would be to just stop the quick reporting.

And people not having problems surely are the majority anyway.

>> > You may not have had any problems, but I did.
>>
>> So make a solution *for those who have problems*.
> 
> So you are suggesting they built 2 systems: one for you without
> problems and one for me with problems?? Not that I see many more
> possible problems with that scenario...

I'm suggesting the problem be solved. If there is one left after 
stopping Quick reporting.

> Well, problems are there, and problems become bigger because spammers
> learn how to trick spamcop. 

How do spammers *cause* you to report yourself or your own ISP? If you 
pay attention, as you should?

> I strongly depend on the "quick report" feature for held mails with
> that I easily can report my 100+ spams a day without checking every
> single report. 

And THAT is the problem. Just report fewer spams and look what you're 
doing. I don't want to be inconvenienced because you don't tke 
responsibility for your reports.

> Reliablity is a must there. 

Exactly. So stop Quick reporting.

> As long as it is only a very, very small percentage of the spams that
> get reported wrong you may live with that. 

Then why would the rest of us have to be inconvenienced for that very, 
very small percentage - especially if the the largest part of that very, 
very small percentage is irresponsible quick reporting anyway?

> why should you wait for a problem to become so big that it hurts
> everyone? 

It doesn't hurt anyone who takes responsibilty for their reports, as 
they agreed to when they signed up.

> O.K. I sent my 2000 spam mails to you and you report them manually
> through the system? 

Only as many as I have time for. No more. But *all* manually.


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