[SpamCop-List] Re: Bonded Spammer vs SpamCop, what will happen?
MikeE at ster.invalid
Fri May 14 15:41:15 EDT 2004
fredfighter at spamcop.net wrote:
> It is dismaying to read here:
> includes as 'Acceptable forms of consent '
> opt-out and Unconfirmed opt-in, which invariably allows
> subscription forgery.
No matter what kind of system I have or don't have for building my
mailing list, if there aren't any complaints about it, it must be a good
system. Here's what I mean....
The strong plus of a properly configured and maintained mailing list is
'proof' that the complainant opted in and confirmed it -- however, how
does that 'proof' process ever come to bear? The answer is that it
doesn't - ie there isn't some kind of escrow agency which looks at
complaints and compares them against the confirmed opted-in records --
in fact, in a spamcop type system, if there isn't some kind of fudging
going on, there isn't any way for a list manager to even know which of
hir confirmed opted-in/s was mistakenly complaining/notifying.
OTOH - I, as a simple mailer to my 'friends', don't have any kind of
confirmed opted in records from them; and I would hope that they don't
complain about my mail to them to my provider, because I can't prove
anything about them wanting my mail. I realize that is a far reach from
some big mailing list; but the point is that the whole thing is all
about avoiding and then handling spam complaints - which doesn't exactly
happen the way it would appear on paper.
kibitzer, not SC admin
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