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[SpamCop-List] Re: Bringing bullet proof hosts down

Pop (was Spamcop by accident) nobody at spamcop.net
Thu Oct 7 13:38:32 EDT 2004


"Merlyn" <Merlyn at Spamcop.net> wrote in message 
news:ck3pre$4l4$1 at news.spamcop.net...
| "Ivan Leo Puoti" <puoti at inwind.it> wrote in message
| news:ck3oqm$2in$1 at news.spamcop.net...
| >> Two wrongs don't make a right IMO. Don't resort to DDoS'ing 
spammers
| >> unless you want to put your own Internet connectivity at 
risk.
| > This is NOT a DDoS attack. A DDoS attack sends file requests 
to a server,
| > and keeps the connection open. Reloading a web page or a jpeg 
over and
| > over again is not a DDoS attack, it is just an attempt to 
make hosting for
| > spammers more expensive, and less worth while. They will have 
to buy more
| > bandwidth, and will earn less.
| It is still a form of "Denial of Service" which is most likely 
against your
| providers TOS.
| Fighting abuse with abuse is not the way.
| Regards,
| Merlyn
...

I agree, it's definitely a Denial Of Service; anything one does 
that denies service to a provider or any clients of the provider 
is performing denial of services.  No, it's not illegal, on the 
surface, and neither is spamming for the most part, not that it 
matters to scum like that. However, if it were probable that any 
particular person were responsible for it, there ARE legal 
recourses that can be taken, and that doesn't necessarily scare 
scums like you're addressing.

 IMO, that's using vigilante tactics and lowers those who do it 
to the same level as those they are "attacking".  If someone 
throws feces at you, the right response is not to plug their 
arsehole.

Pop




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