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[SpamCop-List] Re: Mailhost configuration

N. Miller tdy at blackhole.invalid
Sun Oct 17 12:26:40 EDT 2004


In article <cktflg$qg5$1 at news.spamcop.net>, Neil Howie says...

> Thanks for the input. I have followed the links you suggested and it 
> took a very long time to get an understanding from them.

> The point I was making is that the help page lists a chain A B C. I 
> described the specific chain by which I get e-mail from the spammed 
> address to another, unspammed, address on the same mail server. So to my 
> simple mind, A is my spammed address, B is spamcop to whom it is 
> forwarded and C is the address where my mail finishes. This seems now 
> like a total misunderstanding of the situation, due entirely to the 
> vague way the process is described in the help page. All I tried to do 
> was suggest the addition of a concrete example to make things clearer, 
> hardly a major revision. I don't want to cause any havoc.

> Further, from my point of view, the situation is more uncertain because, 
> for me, the start address and the finishing address are aliases for the 
> same ISP account. The bit before the @ can be anything I like.

> So, if I understand it correctly, the spammed address is the only one I 
> need to register, but does this cause any complication with respect the 
> ultimate destination address?

A. = 'spammed' account?
B. = Spamcop account?
C. = home account?

I have a web mail account that wouldn't forward to Spamcop in a format that 
SC wanted. Oddly, if I use the service "redirect" to my local account, I can 
forward from that account to Spamcop. So, when I set up a mailhost, I first 
made sure that my local account (equivalent to your 'C') was set up. Then I 
set up the web mail account (equivalent to your 'A'). I am pretty sure that 
you also need to set one up for 'B'.

If I understand the purpose of Mailhost, you are telling the SpamCop parser 
which SMTP servers, the "Mailhosts", are normally in the chain of servers 
from the server receiving the spamitem to the server your reporting from. In 
my case, if I forward the web mail spam from my local server, SC would want 
to report the web mail account as the source of the spam if it did not know 
that I was receiving the spamitem at that account. The first couple of times 
I used that method, redirect from web account to local account and forward 
from there to SC, SC wanted to report that account. That was over a year 
before I decided to set up mailhosts on my accounts. I had to manually 
uncheck that report until SC finally learned to trust it.

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Norman
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