[SpamCop-List] Re: Internic Whois Data Problem

[Mike Easter]

Eponym wrote:
> Has anyone actually had any success getting a spammer's domain
> delisted through Internic where the registrant info is fraudulent?
> i.e., through the mechanism provided at http://wdprs.internic.net/

I think you aren't understanding the process and who is responsible to
whom.  That is, I think you are understanding the 'process' by which you
bring bogus whois information to the attention of internic.

The process which you might not understand is that that is a 'conduit'
by which internic can oversee the questioning of the domain registrar by
'anyone'.  That is, there's a rule that registrars are supposed to
maintain accurate information uptodate -- and registrars are certified
by internic.  So the registrar has a responsibility to internic.  The
way it is supposed to be is that the registrar is supposed to be acting
responsibly in order to be a registrar.

> I reported RECIPIENTNETWORK.COM for data inaccuracy. The registrant
> just keeps modifying their record with more bogus info (i.e., the
> current address is HQ office for Victoria's Secret...funny that one).
> The current phone listed is disconnected, etc..  Internic keeps
> sending notice that the registrant info has been changed and it is
> left to me to determine whether the info is inaccurate.  Don't they
> do any due diligence themselves?  And after 10 submissions of
> inaccurate info (seriously), why don't they just delist the domain?

Internic doesn't 'oversee' the accuracy of the information;  internic
only oversees the responsibility of the registrar.  In a 'sense'
internic doesn't see what you are seeing 'properly' because
recipientnetwork is 'working' the system thru' the cooperation of the
registrar.

  Domain Name: RECIPIENTNETWORK.COM
   Registrar: KEY-SYSTEMS GMBH
   Whois Server: whois.rrpproxy.net
   Referral URL: http://www.key-systems.net

At this point, your beef is actually to internic about the registrar not
performing due diligence.  When you go to internic's front page, they
have a different referral link about complaints about a registrar

To submit a complaint about an accredited registrar go to the Registrar
Problem Report form.
http://reports.internic.net/cgi/registrars/problem-report.cgi

That system is largely oriented toward some kind of financial beef or
conflict between and registrar's customer and the registrar -- but since
internic may not be 'paying attention' to the trend here, the usage of
the registrar beef form might be more appropriate to let some light
shine on the situation.  That page sez "ICANN does monitor such
complaints to discern trends."


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin