[SpamCop-List] Re: Odd persistent but intermittent problem

[Eönwë]

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 08:37:16 -0700, "Mike Easter" <MikeE at ster.invalid>
wrote:

>Eönwë wrote:
>
>> The other half, it seems that SpamCop "confuses" the submitted (and
>> current) spam with an identical-except-for-headers spam from about the
>> beginning of July, and refuses to report the spam as too old.  Once a
>> particular spam gets "mismatched", the only way I can get it properly
>> parsed and reported is to cut-and-paste to the webform - email
>> submission will invariably mismatch.

>It seems that the way to talk about this would be to submit one or two
>spams to the webparser which demonstrate your issue and copy their
>trackers and paste the trackers into this discussion group so that we
>can see spams which demonstrate your allegations.

I'll see what I can do in that respect; it's sometimes a little awkward,
as the computer that I post to the newsgroups from is not the same one
that I'm actually handling the spam from.

>If you are alleging that a particular fresh spam is considered too old
>by SC, then maybe you can demonstrate your issue with only one spam.

>But, maybe you are getting regurgitated spams and SC is correct and it
>/is/ an old spam.

Neither, actually - as near as I can tell, what's happening is that the
_new_ spam is triggering the response 'SpamCop has accepted 1 email for
processing', but it's RE-PARSING the _old_ spam (*including the old
headers*) - in other words, SpamCop's RESPONSE is correct - but for the
WRONG material that it's working with.  As I said, putting the new spam
through the web form doesn't give me a problem.  It's only when I
forward that spam to submit.*@spam.spamcop.net that it happens, and that
not consistently.

The sequence that is happening:

July 2: RECEIVED SPAM-A. Submitted via email.  Got response.
        Went to website.  PARSED SPAM-A.  REPORTS SENT.
...
Aug 23: RECEIVED SPAM-Q. Submitted via email.  Got response.
        Went to website.  PARSED SPAM-A.  REPORTS NOT SENT (Too Old).
        Cut-Pasted SPAM-Q into web-form.  PARSED SPAM-Q.  REPORTS SENT.

>I don't think that we will be able to discuss it from your description
>alone.
-- 
Eönwë
(SpamCop subscriber, not staff/admin)