[SpamCop-List] Re: Spamcop Blacklist

[Mike Easter]

BMW wrote:

>>> Does SC accept any IP block syntax in the blacklist?

>>> Does the Blacklist apply to the "Held Mail"?

> No, I am not referring to SCBL.  Please be patient with my rant, I'm
> growing increasingly frustrated with the SC service.

I don't use SC mail, so I'm only speaking as a total 'outsider' who
can't even see the SC mailsystem configuration page.  But I understand
what you are saying.

> 1) I'm configured to "Block All", which means if the sender isn't on
> my whitelist the email remains in my "Held Mail".

That would be what I call 'whitelisteds only'.  I use a client side
spamfilter.  I could configure it in that way.  I could even configure
the primitive mailuseragent OE to put only my whitelisteds into my
Inbox.

However, my client is not a server.  A server is capable of rejecting
mail during the smtp transaction.  I don't have that capability.

> This is most
> effective in blocking 99.99% of the Spam directed at my email
> addresses.  My problem is with a lack of control and filtering of my
> Held Mail.  There seems to be NO way to reject mail from chronic,
> persistent sources.

You are correct.  Your SC mailbox is not a server.  I suppose there
/might/ be some way to automatically delete some of your held mail but I
can't see the SC mail place..

> 2) I understand SC's mission, and I wish to be cooperative up to a
> point.  That point is were SC is obviously ineffective.  Please don't
> think I'm ragging on SC and it's efforts, they are a great team and a
> noble effort BUT they can't control everyone or everything.  There are
> spammers and providers that SC can't affect.  There are enough other
> people reporting this stuff, I don't need to be bothered with it.

I understand that you are saying that some subset of your held mail you
don't want held [any longer than being diverted there] and you don't
want to report it, you just want it to disappear.  You want a function
with 3 forks, inbox, held, and deleted by being blocked from inbox or
held.

My provider's spamblocker setting on high provides 3 forks, known,
suspect, and inbox for whitelisteds.  My gmail account has a 'crude'
filter system for from, to, subject, or words which gmail would handle
according to my wishes.

> 3) This morning was a perfect example of my problem. . . 140 messages
> in Held Mail, 133 from TeamAaronShara (all directed at my spamcop.net
> address).  As this clutter increases, my error rate follows. . . mail
> reported when it shouldn't be, important messages missed, etc.  I
> don't believe for a nanosecond that reporting yet another message from
> TeamAaronShara is going to have ANY positive effect.  I need a way to
> simply block or reject messages from my SC account and I need it NOW.

I don't know if SC has a 3 fork system or not.  Many spam filters like
to handle an item as 'positive' or 'negative' as a 2 fork process.

> 4) SC has to address this problem SOON or I will be forced to drop the
> service, because it is not working for me.

-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin