[SpamCop-List] Re: Spamcop Blacklist

[BMW]

Mike Easter wrote:
> BMW wrote:
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>>>>Does SC accept any IP block syntax in the blacklist?
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>>>>Does the Blacklist apply to the "Held Mail"?
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>>No, I am not referring to SCBL.  Please be patient with my rant, I'm
>>growing increasingly frustrated with the SC service.
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> I don't use SC mail, so I'm only speaking as a total 'outsider' who
> can't even see the SC mailsystem configuration page.  But I understand
> what you are saying.
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>>1) I'm configured to "Block All", which means if the sender isn't on
>>my whitelist the email remains in my "Held Mail".
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> That would be what I call 'whitelisteds only'.  I use a client side
> spamfilter.  I could configure it in that way.  I could even configure
> the primitive mailuseragent OE to put only my whitelisteds into my
> Inbox.
> 
> However, my client is not a server.  A server is capable of rejecting
> mail during the smtp transaction.  I don't have that capability.
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>>This is most
>>effective in blocking 99.99% of the Spam directed at my email
>>addresses.  My problem is with a lack of control and filtering of my
>>Held Mail.  There seems to be NO way to reject mail from chronic,
>>persistent sources.
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> You are correct.  Your SC mailbox is not a server.  I suppose there
> /might/ be some way to automatically delete some of your held mail but I
> can't see the SC mail place..
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>>2) I understand SC's mission, and I wish to be cooperative up to a
>>point.  That point is were SC is obviously ineffective.  Please don't
>>think I'm ragging on SC and it's efforts, they are a great team and a
>>noble effort BUT they can't control everyone or everything.  There are
>>spammers and providers that SC can't affect.  There are enough other
>>people reporting this stuff, I don't need to be bothered with it.
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> I understand that you are saying that some subset of your held mail you
> don't want held [any longer than being diverted there] and you don't
> want to report it, you just want it to disappear.  You want a function
> with 3 forks, inbox, held, and deleted by being blocked from inbox or
> held.
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> My provider's spamblocker setting on high provides 3 forks, known,
> suspect, and inbox for whitelisteds.  My gmail account has a 'crude'
> filter system for from, to, subject, or words which gmail would handle
> according to my wishes.
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>>3) This morning was a perfect example of my problem. . . 140 messages
>>in Held Mail, 133 from TeamAaronShara (all directed at my spamcop.net
>>address).  As this clutter increases, my error rate follows. . . mail
>>reported when it shouldn't be, important messages missed, etc.  I
>>don't believe for a nanosecond that reporting yet another message from
>>TeamAaronShara is going to have ANY positive effect.  I need a way to
>>simply block or reject messages from my SC account and I need it NOW.
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> I don't know if SC has a 3 fork system or not.  Many spam filters like
> to handle an item as 'positive' or 'negative' as a 2 fork process.
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>>4) SC has to address this problem SOON or I will be forced to drop the
>>service, because it is not working for me.
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I have a web presence, and my contact info "routes" through SC.  I 
really can't afford to miss new business.  So the SC system of block all 
works well 99% of the time (first contact is delayed for review).  The 
problem becomes one of clutter.  It is unfortunate that SC is 
ineffective against the determined spammers, BUT it is a fact of life. 
SC admin PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE develop a solution!