[SpamCop-List] Re: I am getting more messages from this .pk server about listserver messages I can do nothing about.

[Geoffrey Hyde]

It is spam because it fulfils the following conditions:

1.  It is private listserver email intended for the original recipient who 
sent a mailing list setup to it.  Not me.  Because of some non-compliant 
header botchup that places me in the From: field.  Therefore, spam.

2.  Whoever or whatever sent the email that triggered this caused the server 
to spam me, because I have an apparently valid From: in there, instead of 
the address of the list server.  See point #1 above.  This to me means it is 
spamming me.

3.  It's also breaking rules in that it shouldn't be sending me 
failure-notice messages, only to itself or to a null: email address and the 
original sender.  The reason it's spamming me with this totally useless 
information is because my From: address is in there, despite the Reply-To 
being munged.

Below is the full message source that was received.  It apparently fills me 
in as the From: recipient, which I understand is very bad practice if you 
are running a mailing list server.  The only place mailing list failures 
should go is to the mailing list server that originally sent it out, which, 
incidentally, hasn't done it's job very well, either, having not put itself 
in as the From: recipient.

It's also spam because for a very long time the LugNet admins have been 
supposed to take care of this problem, however, they apparently haven't 
fixed it yet.  Longer than two years is in my book an awfully long time to 
fix a listserver problem.

Cheers ...

Geoffrey Hyde



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"Robert Blair" <nobody at nowhere.not> wrote in message 
news:TECQXhvKj0FX-pn2-NCeTjTkPqlkW at dsl-206-55-144-107.tstonramp.com...
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:21:27 UTC, "Geoffrey Hyde"
> <g.hyde at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
>> I could say that I've demonstrably argued that it is spam I'm dealing 
>> with,
>> and that I'm trying to end my demonstration of what is spam about it, 
>> with
>> you.
>
> It is not spam from my point of view.  Unwanted yes, spam no.
>
>
> -- 
> Robert Blair