[SpamCop-List] Re: I am getting more messages from this .pk server about listserver messages I can do nothing about.

[Geoffrey Hyde]

Well, I talked to someone (who probably would not want to be named anyway) 
in private mail and they said it's a very grey area, and whether it's spam 
is MY call.  Next one I get WILL be considered spam.  And it is highly 
annoying spam to boot.

What I would like to be able to do though, is have the lugnet address 
recognized as a 3rd party which will need to be notifed of these - since 
they own the listserver, the spam problem is theirs to fix, not mine, and 
certainly their fault for not having set the damn thing up right in the 
first place.

BTW, the following is the MAIN reason I consider it spam, and why I find it 
ought to be reportable as such:

[paste]
Your message

  To:      lugnet.robotics at lugnet.com
  Subject: Re: New contest
  Sent:    Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:33:30 +0500

did not reach the following recipient(s):

664 at NU.EDU.PK on Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:49:45 +0500
    The recipient name is not recognized
 The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=us;a=
;p=fast;l=HIGHWAY0512080349YBAH0F7L
    MSEXCH:IMS:FAST:lhr:HIGHWAY 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient
[end paste]

The person it's trying to find @nu.edu.pk is the person it's supposed to be 
sending to.  Since either it's a listserver or a mail server handling 
listserver traffic, it's most definitely not allowed to be spamming 
NON-mailing-list recipients (AFAIK, I once was on a very similar mailing 
list a long time ago, and one of the rules was that non-mailing-list 
recipients should not get spammed under any circumstances.)

Because this is a gateway for so-called "news-by-mail" I am very annoyed at 
getting spammed because I already browse the newsgroups with Outlook and I 
certainly don't need the news server mailing list gateway spamming me or 
cauisng another server to be spamming me with regurgitated posts like this.


Cheers ...

Geoffrey Hyde



"Robert Blair" <nobody at nowhere.not> wrote in message 
news:TECQXhvKj0FX-pn2-GK1fwdbcLq6J at dsl-206-55-144-107.tstonramp.com...
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:34:12 UTC, "Geoffrey Hyde"
> <g.hyde at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> spam = UCE or UBE, your unwanted reply is neither of these.
>
>
>> It apparently fills me
>> in as the From: recipient, which I understand is very bad practice if you
>> are running a mailing list server.
>
> All of the mailing lists I belong to leave my email address in the
> FROM.  Most also will insert a REPLY-TO (to the mailing list) if I do
> not insert a REPLY-TO in the headers.  If I insert a REPLY-TO into the
> headers then the mailing list will pass it through so the reply will
> go to where ever I have set.