[SpamCop-List] Re: patent-fr
Philippe Verdy (n.o-s.p.a.m+abuse)
verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Fri Dec 16 05:20:04 EST 2005
"Mike Easter" <MikeE at ster.invalid> a écrit dans le message de news: dnspme$uv4$1 at news.spamcop.net...
> Philippe Verdy wrote:
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670
> Don't forget that if you post with OE in QP quoted printable mode, your
> formatting will be 'incompatible' in one way or another with anyone who
> is not also running OE or OE with QF, because of the way MS 'does
> When I read your post, it is wrapped to the window edge for me. Other
> people are going to see it differently, depending on their newsreader.
> Why I cite your post, it is cited 'correctly' if I have my OEQF quotefix
> enabled, but it is not cited/ marked with quote/cite marks at all if I
> run OE natively. Notice that Michael Dolbear probably had to 'manually'
> handle the quote marks for your cite.
> None of those things are very compatible with the variety of newsreaders
> which people are going to be using here, so if you will recall from
> previous discussions, it is better if you configure your OE plaintext
> configuration to not use OE QP in OE/ Tools/ Options/ Send/ News sending
> format - Plaintext settings - MIME - Encode text using - choose None
> instead of Quoted Printable.
It WAS my initial setting to not use quoted-printable for newsgroup, until recently, when I was COMPLETELY unable to transfer to spamcop.spam a copy of a spam I received. Without quoted-printable, the email copy was constantly REJECTED by the newsserver, because it violated maximum line length (not because of my own message, but because of the way the message body was specially crafted by the spam author to bypass this limitation.)
So for sending an exact copy of an EMAIL, I need to be able to use the same options in the spamcop.spam NEWSGROUP, that allows keeping the format of the original email, without stupid line-length limitations caused by the absence of quoted-printable in rare newsreaders. Spammers DO use MIME formating, and DO use other charsets. To send a coherent copy to the newsgroup, I need to be able to send the email the way it was originally, or the newsgrader agent will break its structure, maiking it completely unrenderable (the issue ispresent for CJK languages, but could be used as well very easily for Western European languages, encoded for example with Big5 or using special substitutes allowed by Unicode such as fullwidth variants, special spaces, etc...)
Sorry, but this is the *SPAMCOP*'s newsgroup that *forced* me to change this setting. I really don't see why standard MIME formats used in almost all email readers (that alsointegrate newsgroup readers) should not be used here (and notably when speaking about EMAIL abuses: we need to support the same formats as used in EMAILS, and those that use outdated antiquity newgroup readers need to change their reader if they want to be able to get copies of email abuses).
Unfortunately, there's a single newsgroup setting for specifying the prefered default newsgroup format.
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