[SpamCop-List] Re: [media] "FTC says federal spam law has worked"
Philippe Verdy (n.o-s.p.a.m+abuse)
verdy_p at wanadoo.fr
Wed Dec 28 09:47:04 EST 2005
caroljean52 <caroljean52 at yahoo.com> posted:
> Just the headline had me laughing. Guess it depends on what your
> definition of "worked" is!
Well, it worked because now a significant number of spamshave magically been
made legal withthe CANSPAM Act. Needless to say, legal opt-out is still spam
for me, because I don't want to opt out from any list that I have note
This is true even if the spam was relayed by "respectable" mailing list
host, where any one can upload some large mailing list, and create unlimited
number of lists or accounts at very low rate, and then use this service to
relay their spew.
An ISP that accepts unlimited number of lists and allows uploading a large
address book without prior explicit proof of identity for the account owner
(beside the simple anonymous credit card transaction) is acting as blackhat,
even if that ISP honors opt-out (or provides list washing assistance). Most
of the time, Inever know that ISP before the spam first comes in, and I have
had noprior contact with them, so I cannot trust it.
Each time I have a spam coming from such ISP, I hope that this ISP will
consider the abuse report sent to it, and then count the number of abuse
reports and victims of the list account owner, to make list washing first,
then to block the lists completely after a small threshold, and finally
cancel the list owner's accountif the abuses are too many or repeated (when
doing that, the ISP should maintain a blacklist banning that abusing user of
uploading and using any mailing list). That ISP should also start a
procedure seeking for compensation for the user's abuses, including
requesting additional fees (and until then, all accesses by this user should
be blocked, according to the AUP).
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