[SpamCop-List] Re: DNS blocking for companionground.com?
David 1
David1 at suescornerweb.com
Tue Jan 4 05:23:35 EST 2005
Mike Easter wrote:
> rg wrote:
>
>>Aren't you interested in the fact that they may have come up with a
>>new way to block spamcop by making your DNS server fail when
>>analyzing their spam message? They have sabotaged an important part
>>of your analysis stream.
>
>
> Yes, spamcop admin and also just regular citizens like me are interested
> in the fact that some domains are not resolvable by spamcop's resolver.
> But, only a little.
>
> But/and, you should also realize that the 'business' of spamcop
> notifying the provider for a spamvertised site is not an important
> business. It is only useful to those providers who want to hear about
> it; and being identified as a spamvertiser has no 'consequences' in the
> same way that being identified as a spamsource has the consequence of
> affecting the spamcop blocklist.
>
>
>>I did one substitution by replacing one machine name with the
>>resolved IP, since Spamcop could not to that. It does not alter the
>>structure, functionality, or intent of the spam. It only makes it
>>possible for Spamcop to continue in spite of this spammer's sabotage.
>
>
> What Ellen is, and also less importantly I am, trying to help you
> understand is that you are not /allowed/ to help out in that way. When
> you sign up with SC, you agree^1 to play by the rules, and there is a
> rule^2 against that.
>
> There are many many many structures which 'we' who look at spamcop
> parses find to interfere with the result of a parse, some more
> problematic than others. And some of those structures are important and
> need to be remedied, especially the ones in the headers.
>
> So, the situation is that you can talk about the problem with the result
> of a parse here, which should be done by posting a tracker^3 not just
> describing the problem.
>
>
> There is one more problem which is about housekeeping, and that is that
> you need to structure your quotes^4 in such a way that you have trimmed
> and contextualized them, not topposted. That way we can have a
> conversation.
>
>
> ^1 http://www.spamcop.net/anonsignup.shtml If I break these rules,
> SpamCop will immediately and permanently revoke my access to SpamCop.
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/143.html What if I break the
> rule(s)?
>
> ^2 http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/283.html Do not make any
> material changes to spam before submitting or parsing which may cause
> SpamCop to find a link, address or URL it normally would not, by design,
> find.
>
> ^3 A tracker is a tracking URL to be found at the top of a parse in this
> context: "Here is your TRACKING URL - it may be saved for future
> reference:" and looks like this: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=code# -
> where code# is z + 9 decimal digits + z + 32 hexadecimal digits + z and
> that tracker can be used to examine both the parse result and the
> original spam
>
> ^4 http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/nquote.html Quoting Style in
> Newsgroup Postings
> Q1: What is "quoting" in newsgroup postings?
> Q2: How should I use the quoted text and arrange it with my own text?
>
>
>
1. no I'm not snipping this time 2. thanks for hopefully allowing me to
jump in here
3. so does that mean on a message with no body I'm breaking the rules
buy adding "no body adding for parser" to the email so that the parser
will do it's thing for me.
--
David 1
bad addy
spamtrap at suescornerweb.com
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