[SpamCop-List] Re: How do I submit my spam to spamcop?

[WazoO]

"Cat" <nobody at devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:d7tqkq$j0d$1 at news.spamcop.net...
>
> Yeah, I can see if it was mentioned sort of like "there's similar
> discussion going on over here where this particular question has come up
> and been answered. You might look over there at *insert forum link to
> answer to specific question here* in addition to any discussion that
> goes on here" that would be ok

Something like that found at d7tba9$bia$1 at news.spamcop.net
Subject: Re: problems with gmail reporting spam
Thread started at 5/30/05 1342 ...?????

>. I think what bothered me about it was
> that WazoO's forum promoting could make a new person feel like he/she
> did the wrong thing by posting to the newsgroups first. I think it's
> good to make people feel that either place is equally fine for posting
> questions and that the poster should do whatever feels most comfortable.

What I see here is a matter of perspective.  I generally don't say
anything about "posting" ... it's usually that the answers already
exist in the Forum (FAQ) .... hinting that just a bit of research
would have found those answers before posting.  The same
comments have been applied to newsgroup postings themselves ..
that "pick your subject" (say a system outage) that brings in
the hundreds of "thought someone should know that the system
is down" lunacy by those that didn't take those few precious
seconds to note that 99+ people had posted the same thing
within the last hour ....

Please also be advised that volunteering time to support
SpamCop is not the only thing I do.  I also deal with the
Microsoft peer-to-peer newsgroups (yet another example
of the same 300 questions a day, every day, day after day ...)
I went to the IPB (Forum app) support forum looking for
help and ended up answering other people's queries over there,
once again, the questions I ask aren't in the standard set of
most posters there ..... but believe it or not,  no one there
had any clue on how to handle spam, how to work issues
involved in e-mail, how to read headers, on and on ...
(and even there, I'll point back to the SpamCop Forum
rather than sit there and re-type the same answer over and over ...)

The specific "posting" comments deal with the MailHost
configuration .. that request to keep that in the Forum came
from Julian http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1091
Take a look at the fallout caused within the week when someone
brought this tidbit to the newsgroups .... one starting point is seen at
http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-list/2004-March/077205.html

The only other "posting" comments are towards those queries that
are about a SpamCop Filtered e-mail account which should have
been posted into the spamcop.mail newsgroup (that is basically dead)
or the Forum where JT wanted that support to happen .. again noting
that the newsgroups and e-mail accounts are all hosted on his
servers ....

Again, my perspective is that there is a support vehicle in place
that was built to hold "answers" ... these answers are "there" for
anyone to access and the thought is to make it easier to find
both the answer needed and the hints to other issues that may
exist, discovered while perusing the 'Table of Contents' if
you will ....