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[SpamCop-List] Re: Failed delivery nightmare

John E. Malmberg wb8tyw at qsl.network
Tue May 3 00:13:09 EDT 2005


Onyx wrote:
> Ok, I just recieved cca 100 messages notifying me of failed delivery of
> emails I didn't send and they keep coming, woo hoo. Apparently, spammer
> vermin used email on my domain as a return address for their spam.
> 
> Two questions:
> 1. What would be the best way to deal with this?

First of all, check your mail server to make sure that it will not relay 
for a spammer forging a real user on your domain.  Apparently there is a 
popular mail server software out there that is designed to do that and 
there is no way to disable that feature except to enable SMTP-AUTH for 
all e-mail.  This is what I have picked up from the admin(at)dsbl.org 
list's public archives.

Then assuming that your mail server is not the one that is affected by 
this feature:

File abuse reports about the delayed bounces with each mail server that 
is doing the delayed bounce.

Such delayed bounces are not reportable by spamcop.net:
See a recent post in spamcop.help by Larry Kilgallen for a sample text:

: As I report that spam (the message claiming I sent a message
" I did not) I include something like the following text in my
: SpamCop report:

       Believe it or not, spammers lie.

       Please adjust your software to not send these meaningless warnings
       blindly to the "From:" address, but instead respond within the
       SMTP dialog, so your comments get to the actual originator rather
       than pestering an innocent bystander.


While the bounces are allowed by RFC, it is from a time when third party 
open relays were also allowed.

Most mail servers do an SMTP reject, which means that any bounce message 
will come from the original sending mail server, and the only ones of 
those that are relaying spam are either the domain that should receive 
the abuse report of one of their users, or an open relay.  Open relays 
should be blocked on site.


When mail servers do not do an SMTP reject, and do an accept and bounce, 
then they are participating in a DDOS to victims like you.

There have also been several recent posts on news.admin.net-abuse.email 
about the practice of abusive bouncing of spam.

There are some mail server operators that claim that it is not practical 
to convert to SMTP rejects instead of bouncing.

These mail server operations must be bigger than AOL.COM which had 
several years ago announced on the SPAM-L mailing list that they 
recognized that such bounces where abusive to the rest of the internet 
and were switching over to only using SMTP rejects.

It seems that for every example of someone claiming that their network 
is too large to convert, an example can be found of a larger network 
that did so.  And I suspect that it is a much lower operational cost to 
use SMTP rejects instead of doing the accept and then bouncing.

> 2. Could this possibly get my domain listed on anti-spam lists?

Only if the mail server operator is either incompetent, or is so small 
that it is unlikely that they will ever receive a legitimate e-mail from 
your domain.

According to posts on news.admin.net-abuse.email, even the conservative 
spamhaus.org will eventually list I.P. addresses that bounce spam to 
forged addresses.

It is far more likely that the I.P. addresses of the mail servers that 
are bouncing the spam will get put on local and public blocking lists 
than the I.P. address of your domain.

Most medium to large mail servers pay a metered rate for their 
bandwidth, and accepting fake bounces or spam needlessly increases their 
operating costs.

So if the only e-mail they have ever seen from an I.P. address is spam 
or fake bounces, many mail server operators that are paying for 
bandwidth out of their profits or pockets will block that I.P. address.

-John
wb8tyw at qsl.network
Personal Opinion Only


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