[SpamCop-List] Re: What does "Administrator interested in intermediary handling of spam" mean?

[Mike Easter]

Mark Geary wrote:
> www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z802257279z20c66f9227725e940aba303f2232a93bz>
> is what you are asking for.

Correct;  it also tells the story of how the reports were sent.  Lotsa
received lines in there.

  Abbreviated Received lines
  from zaxxon.io.com ([209.198.128.81]) by postoffice.prismnet.com
  from c62.cesmail.net (c62.cesmail.net [216.154.195.54]) by
zaxxon.io.com
  from unknown (HELO blade5.cesmail.net) ([192.168.1.215]) by
c62.cesmail.net
  from unknown (192.168.1.101)  by blade5.cesmail.net
  from alias2.acm.org (199.222.69.92) by mailgate.cesmail.net
  from psmtp.com ([64.18.2.111]) by alias2.acm.org
  from source ([204.152.190.11]) by exprod7mx61.postini.com
  from (outmail.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.254.75]) by
mail.netbsd.org
  from scan03.yourhostingaccount.com ([192.168.1.233] by
mail18.yourhostingaccount.com
  from cgi21.yourhostingaccount.com ([192.168.1.109]) by
scan03.yourhostingaccount.com
  from cgi21.yourhostingaccount.com ([192.168.1.109]) by
scan03.yourhostingaccount.com

To simplify those 11 headers, imagine they are numbered from 0-10
starting at the top.

Think of the last 3 as a unit representing the source, because I've seen
similars in sightings, and the top 5 as representing SC to you..  The
story or sequence of the middle 3 is netbsd > postini > acm, which then
went on to your spamcop account and thence io/prismnet.

The administrator interested in the intermediary handling of spam was
netbsd, which was the server receiving from the source package.  In this
case, netbsd would not have been/ was not/ named as the spamsource,
partly because you are mailhosted and partly because netbsd is a trusted
server.

> < The problem with mailing list spam is that it can result in the
> < reporting of the mailing list server, who should not be reported or
> < counted as the source for the spam -- but instead you should "send a
> < note to the list owner who can block the source from sending to the
> list < or take responsibility for reporting the spam themselves."

That problem about mailing list spam is still a concern;  it is better
to follow the rules than to report it.  If you don't follow the rules
and you report a mailing list server which shouldn't have been reported
and it gets accidentally spamcop listed and 'you' and other false source
reporters are the cause of numerous mailing list recipients mail getting
spamcop blocked, you will surely get into trouble.

> If I understand the other replies to my post, the mailing list owner
> was not reported as a spammer, but was notified that spam passed
> through the list.

That is correct in this instance, assuming that we are calling netbsd
the mailing list owner.   Some of the header content is munged by
spamcop's normal mungeing mode.


-- 
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin