[SpamCop-List] Re: Need help To get our system setup correctly
MikeE at ster.invalid
Fri Feb 24 16:11:31 EST 2006
Steven Maesslein wrote:
> Larry Kilgallen
>> <my cite>
>>> Any reports generated by confirmation mails 'don't count' -- as
>>> confirmations are not legitimately spamcop reportable.
>> I believe that SpamCop rule applies to confirmation requests due to
>> new (alleged) signups, not to mass mailings to existing unconfirmed
> What he said.
> If you receive a confirmation mail, which is in fact a /request for/
> confirmation - ie: please do something to confirm that you really
> really really do want to receive our mail - than that is not
Yabbut, Larry is saying -- if you have created a very very very dirty
mailing list, say bought a millions CD, and then you decide to make a
nice clean opted in mailing list by mass mailing a few million opt-in
confirmations -- that that is not exactly the same as sending a
confirmation of the web subscribed address.
> OTOH, if you receive a confirmation basically saying "someone, we
> don't have a clue who it was, submitted your e-mail address to our
> database, so we are going to start spamming the crap out of you until
> you opt out," then that *is* reportable.
We weren't talking about optouts. This thread was about what Eduard sed
> and what we are going to do, is to send to all people on our lists
> (propably the spamcop emaill addresses as well) and ask for
> confirmation. The status for all members will be for confirmation,
> and if we don't receive any confirmation from email addresses, those
> people will be removed within a week or 2 after the confirmation
> mails has been send out. In the meantime, while your status si
> waiting on confrimation, mails will not be send to you.
I think Larry was saying -- you didn't send confirmations when the
addies were subscribed and now you have this dirty mailing list which
includes spamtraps. Now you are going to confirmation email everyone on
a dirty list. You can't very well expect the deputy to remove the
confirmation reports that hit spamtraps just to delist you.
Or, at least that's the way I decided to interpret what Larry was saying
in the context of what I was saying in the context of what Eduard had
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