From avoozl at spamcop.net Wed Apr 1 11:15:01 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:39:14 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Hotpatch Maintenance Monday March 30 References: Message-ID: "Steven Underwood" wrote in message news:gqrft8$pom$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:gqr8j8$6b1$2@news.spamcop.net... >> >> This hotpatch addresses the mailsc/held mail/etc errors of the last >> couple of days. >> >> Ellen >> SpamCop > > This appears to be working from my location... thank you for the work to > get this completed. Yeah, everything appears to be working as it should.. except ripe queries *still* get filtered. :( From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Apr 1 14:15:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:41:13 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Hotpatch Maintenance Monday March 30 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > "Steven Underwood" wrote in message > news:gqrft8$pom$1@news.spamcop.net... >> "Ellen" wrote in message >> news:gqr8j8$6b1$2@news.spamcop.net... >>> This hotpatch addresses the mailsc/held mail/etc errors of the last >>> couple of days. >>> >>> Ellen >>> SpamCop >> This appears to be working from my location... thank you for the work to >> get this completed. > > Yeah, everything appears to be working as it should.. except ripe queries > *still* get filtered. :( > > We do understand the -B flag for RIPE and so I am unsure of exactly what problem you are complaining about. I am sure you posted tracking urls before but if you could come up with a current one I would appreciate it .... Ellen From MikeE at ster.invalid Wed Apr 1 15:15:02 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:41:50 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Hotpatch Maintenance Monday March 30 References: Message-ID: Ellen wrote: > Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > We do understand the -B flag for RIPE and so I am unsure of exactly what > problem you are complaining about. I am sure you posted tracking urls > before but if you could come up with a current one I would appreciate it The last 2 times this came up here, Mar 21 & Feb 09, ripe didn't actually have an email for the listed nic-hdl and the changed addy was causing confusion for the troops. Ellen responded to that Mar 21 thread and did her routing thing to fix the missing ripe nic-hdl address. Subject: Re: SpamCop can't find 193.48.246.132 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:54:51 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: plusdiscmotion94-48-252-73.plusdiscmotion.com Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:22:09 -0800 Message-ID: -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From avoozl at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 02:10:01 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:48:25 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Hotpatch Maintenance Monday March 30 References: Message-ID: I wasn't aware this was fixed yet.. Hmm, I'll see if I can find it. Last I saw though the results were still getting filtered. Chris "Ellen" wrote in message news:gqvp4n$879$1@news.spamcop.net... > We do understand the -B flag for RIPE and so I am unsure of exactly what > problem you are complaining about. I am sure you posted tracking urls > before but if you could come up with a current one I would appreciate it > .... > > > > Ellen From avoozl at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 02:10:01 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:48:32 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Hotpatch Maintenance Monday March 30 References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:gqvssh$nds$1@news.spamcop.net... > The last 2 times this came up here, Mar 21 & Feb 09, ripe didn't actually > have an email for the listed nic-hdl and the changed addy was causing > confusion for the troops. > > Ellen responded to that Mar 21 thread and did her routing thing to fix the > missing ripe nic-hdl address. > > > Subject: Re: SpamCop can't find 193.48.246.132 > Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:54:51 -0700 > Message-ID: > > Subject: Re: plusdiscmotion94-48-252-73.plusdiscmotion.com > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:22:09 -0800 > Message-ID: > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > Sorry, I'll just keep an eye out for another one. The one that I saw earlier; can't find the link. :( From avoozl at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 03:25:02 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:49:30 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Similar but not exact.. Message-ID: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2746322716z00bd4dbd67cf09f973ba160cba78c23dz This one isn't RIPE related. However, the parser still insists on using a nomaster addy. Not sure why. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 10:05:11 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:53:25 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Similar but not exact.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2746322716z00bd4dbd67cf09f973ba160cba78c23dz > > This one isn't RIPE related. However, the parser still insists on using a > nomaster addy. Not sure why. > > thanks Ellen From avoozl at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 12:10:01 2009 From: avoozl at spamcop.net (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:54:45 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: - RIPE linky References: Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:gqvp4n$879$1@news.spamcop.net... > We do understand the -B flag for RIPE and so I am unsure of exactly what > problem you are complaining about. I am sure you posted tracking urls > before but if you could come up with a current one I would appreciate it > .... > > > > Ellen http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2752621433z64e6b264a7d9bbbf21f5a577b21fbc05z There, that's a ripe nomaster error. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Apr 2 15:00:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 09:56:43 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: - RIPE linky In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris F. Willoughby wrote: > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:gqvp4n$879$1@news.spamcop.net... >> We do understand the -B flag for RIPE and so I am unsure of exactly what >> problem you are complaining about. I am sure you posted tracking urls >> before but if you could come up with a current one I would appreciate it >> .... >> >> >> >> Ellen > > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2752621433z64e6b264a7d9bbbf21f5a577b21fbc05z > > There, that's a ripe nomaster error. :) > > I see no email addresses in the RIPE lookup. If there is no email address then the result in the no master. But I will manually set this to vodafone.com@abuse.net and let vodaphone sort it all out. Ellen SpamCop From iwantsex at 0.0529294nowathome.com Sat Apr 4 05:10:02 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.0529294nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.0529294nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:12:36 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.7645335 Now Click Here To See ... 0.586996 Message-ID: 0.8540292 Now Click Here To See ... 0.0529294 0.7645335 Now Visit http://nowclickhere.bravehost.com/index.html 0.586996 From iwantsex at 0.6490722nowathome.com Sat Apr 4 05:40:02 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.6490722nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.6490722nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:12:57 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 4.428142E-02 Have To See This ... 0.5503491 Message-ID: 0.7665668 Have To See This ... 0.6490722 4.428142E-02 Now Visit http://nowclickhere.bravehost.com/index.html 0.5503491 From iwantsex at 0.1874411nowathome.com Sat Apr 4 06:15:01 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.1874411nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.1874411nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:13:10 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.7281439 Look Inside And Realize That Dream ... 1.249468E-02 Message-ID: 0.4250215 Look Inside And Realize That Dream ... 0.1874411 0.7281439 Now Visit http://nowclickhere.bravehost.com/index.html 1.249468E-02 From iwantsex at 0.5476151nowathome.com Sat Apr 4 18:20:02 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.5476151nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.5476151nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:18:39 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.9174165 Look Inside Now For It ... 0.3980764 Message-ID: 0.6905175 Look Inside Now For It ... 0.5476151 0.9174165 Now Visit http://nowclickhere.bravehost.com/index.html 0.3980764 From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 13:45:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:34:24 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] ******* Outlook users please read ******** Message-ID: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> As a result of a fairly lengthy and intense investigation of Outlook 2003 and 2007: Outlook does *not* include full and accurate headers when you forward spams as attachments. It reorders the Received headers, which makes them untrustworthy, as well as deleting/not forwarding other headers including X-headers, which is of less importance but which may loose some valuable information needed by ISPs/hosting companies. The result of the 'scrambled" or reordered Received headers means that SpamCop does not reliably know where the injection point of the spam is. Outlook is reordering the headers, not SpamCop. Thusly, if you are running Outlook you *may not* forward your spams as an attachment for processing. You can copy/paste or look into running mailwasher or some other 3rd party add-in/add-on but you must stop forwarding as an attachment. I want to thank the SC users who cheerfully gave of their time to help in tracking this down. Ellen SpamCop From connyank at cox.net Mon Apr 6 14:25:01 2009 From: connyank at cox.net (jg) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:35:04 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 04/06/2009 05:06 AM Ellen scribbled: > As a result of a fairly lengthy and intense investigation of Outlook > 2003 and 2007: Outlook does *not* include full and accurate headers when > you forward spams as attachments. It reorders the Received headers, > which makes them untrustworthy, as well as deleting/not forwarding other > headers including X-headers, which is of less importance but which may > loose some valuable information needed by ISPs/hosting companies. > > The result of the 'scrambled" or reordered Received headers means that > SpamCop does not reliably know where the injection point of the spam is. > > Outlook is reordering the headers, not SpamCop. > > Thusly, if you are running Outlook you *may not* forward your spams as > an attachment for processing. You can copy/paste or look into running > mailwasher or some other 3rd party add-in/add-on but you must stop > forwarding as an attachment. > > I want to thank the SC users who cheerfully gave of their time to help > in tracking this down. > > > > Ellen > SpamCop I'd call that timely, no offense to you Ellen... From nobosy at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 16:05:02 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:35:48 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Is the Spamcop server time off or parser screwed up? References: Message-ID: "RW" wrote in message news:gq9rtt$he4$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: >> I reported 7 spams I received today all at once through submission. They >> all came back as "too old" to report. >> >> In every instance , the parsed data comes back indicating I received the >> message on March 20, but my own headers show received today. >> > > I had a look at these. You submitted them Monday March 23 at > 4:11:28pm -0400 > > PAYPAL PAYBACK RAFFLE DRAW shows your server received it March 20: > > Received: from cpsmtpo-eml01.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.38.150]) by > col0-mc2-f38.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:38:20 -0700 > > > Email. shows it was received March 20: > > Received: from msgmmp-2.gci.net ([209.165.130.12]) by > bay0-mc10-f19.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); > Fri, 20 Mar 2009 22:36:27 -0700 > > > YOUR BMW 2009 AWARD shows it was received March 21: > > Received: from bob.montserrat.edu ([74.10.75.77]) by > COL0-MC4-F7.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:07:12 -0700 > > Offer high quailty Vigara in licensed onilne phamracy. also shows March > 21: > > Received: from BLU135-W9 ([65.55.111.72]) by > blu0-omc2-s12.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:26:36 -0700 > > > Ditto for GOOD DAY. : > > Received: from smtp-wm.kw.com ([66.179.173.68]) by > col0-mc2-f42.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); > Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:42:36 -0700 > > > And finally, same with Like Cowboys and Other Rough Types? : > > Received: from mail.icm-nj.com ([204.9.74.96]) by > bay0-mc6-f7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); > Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:22:29 -0700 > > > All were over the 48 hours submission limit, some by only a few hours. > > Richard Ahh..I see now. I don't know how, but I seemed to have sent old emails. Thanks From nobosy at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 16:40:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:36:01 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? Message-ID: I could not find this problem in a search. I am now using Google's free mail service for your own domain name. I tried reporting some of the spam I get, but it cannot find the sender's source IP address. Looking at a headers it seems the source IP is in the header, but spamcop cannot parse it. Example: ------------ Received: from smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net [208.70.128.55]) ------------ Looking at this example, this line seems to be the source, but not detected. I have even submitted Goog mail for the Mailshosts and I keep getting errors indicating that I have not submitted all the headers. Trent From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 16:55:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Bar0) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:36:08 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net... > As a result of a fairly lengthy and intense investigation of Outlook 2003 > and 2007: Outlook does *not* include full and accurate headers when you > forward spams as attachments. It reorders the Received headers, which > makes them untrustworthy, as well as deleting/not forwarding other headers > including X-headers, which is of less importance but which may loose some > valuable information needed by ISPs/hosting companies. > > The result of the 'scrambled" or reordered Received headers means that > SpamCop does not reliably know where the injection point of the spam is. > > Outlook is reordering the headers, not SpamCop. > > Thusly, if you are running Outlook you *may not* forward your spams as an > attachment for processing. You can copy/paste or look into running > mailwasher or some other 3rd party add-in/add-on but you must stop > forwarding as an attachment. > > I want to thank the SC users who cheerfully gave of their time to help in > tracking this down. How strange, I've never seen any received headers in a forwarded WetlLook attachment, whether I forwarded as attachment or pasted the spamitem into a new mail from the folders list., So I'm surprised that received lines are reordered, since they've never been served up for me. Outlook Express , on the other hand, seems to work fine. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 18:10:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:36:41 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: jg wrote: > > I'd call that timely, no offense to you Ellen... ???? Ellen From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 18:10:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:36:43 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > Looking at a headers it seems the source IP is in the header, but spamcop > cannot parse it. > > Example: > ------------ > Received: from smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net > [208.70.128.55]) > ------------ > > Looking at this example, this line seems to be the source, but not detected. > > I have even submitted Goog mail for the Mailshosts and I keep getting errors > indicating that I have not submitted all the headers. > > > > Trent > > Please provide a tracking URL and a description of exactly how you are forwarding/bouncing/pointing the mail to SC. Ellen SpamCop From nobosy at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 18:15:02 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:36:47 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:grdcr2$7g8$2@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: > >> Looking at a headers it seems the source IP is in the header, but spamcop >> cannot parse it. >> >> Example: >> ------------ >> Received: from smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net >> [208.70.128.55]) >> ------------ >> >> Looking at this example, this line seems to be the source, but not >> detected. >> >> I have even submitted Goog mail for the Mailshosts and I keep getting >> errors indicating that I have not submitted all the headers. >> >> >> >> Trent >> >> > > > Please provide a tracking URL and a description of exactly how you are > forwarding/bouncing/pointing the mail to SC. I am merely pasting the email in the website reporting. > > > Ellen > SpamCop From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 19:30:01 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Twayne) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:37:21 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:grdcr2$7g8$2@news.spamcop.net... >> Trent wrote: >> >>> Looking at a headers it seems the source IP is in the header, but >>> spamcop cannot parse it. >>> >>> Example: >>> ------------ >>> Received: from smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net >>> [208.70.128.55]) >>> ------------ >>> >>> Looking at this example, this line seems to be the source, but not >>> detected. >>> >>> I have even submitted Goog mail for the Mailshosts and I keep >>> getting errors indicating that I have not submitted all the headers. >>> >>> >>> >>> Trent >>> >>> >> >> >> Please provide a tracking URL and a description of exactly how you >> are forwarding/bouncing/pointing the mail to SC. > > I am merely pasting the email in the website reporting. > > >> >> >> Ellen >> SpamCop You can still grab the tracker it produces and pass it on. It's near the top of the parsed page; easy to find. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 6 19:45:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:37:33 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > > I am merely pasting the email in the website reporting. > > >> >> Ellen >> SpamCop > > Your question can't be answered without a tracking url -- paste in the spam and click the button, when the parse page comes up, copy the url at the top and then cancel the reports. Ellen SpamCop From MikeE at ster.invalid Mon Apr 6 20:15:02 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:37:46 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > I am now using Google's free mail service for your own domain name. > I tried reporting some of the spam I get, but it cannot find the > sender's source IP address. Methods to submit gmails to spamcop from the webfaq and the forumfaq: - webmail - copy from message source/ show original and paste into webparser ala http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/410.html These instructions are for web based email provided by Google (GMail) - popping from gmail - described at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4668 FAQ: POP'ing GMAIL spam, for reporting Gmail spam en'masse - imapping gmail w/ Tbird - described at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8921 Steps to report Gmail spam as attachments via IMAP with Thunderbird, Grabbed from Newsgroups: spamcop How to make a tracker: 1 select and obtain the complete spam 2 privatize the header&body content 3 webparse it & copy the tracking URL 4 cancel the report & paste the tracker in here 1 ... in the manner described by the SC faq http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html How do I get my email program to reveal the full, unmodified email? 2 ... by modestly and unambiguously mungeing any private information you don't want to expose, such as your name or email address which might appear anywhere in the header or body. Avoid excessive or confusing mungeing. 3 login to the SC webparser, paste in the spam, and click Process Spam button; then copy the tracking URL from the top 'Here is your TRACKING URL' of the appearance http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1505491930z5db2559eebcde98291b8e783c95d61cez 4 ... after parsing, the report is 'live' until the cancel button is used. After cancelling the tracker disappears; the munged spam report should be cancelled because it has been materially changed and because you don't want to leave a tracker live. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From connyank at cox.net Tue Apr 7 02:05:01 2009 From: connyank at cox.net (jg) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:05 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 04/06/2009 07:32 AM Ellen scribbled: > jg wrote: > >> I'd call that timely, no offense to you Ellen... > > > ???? > > > Ellen > What I was referring to was the fact that this is 2009 and you are referring to Outlook 2003 and 2007 - seems a tad late for someone to be discovering this now. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 03:10:02 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Patto) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:31 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Why does SC ignore hyperlink? Message-ID: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766650833z0332b21f9a975e0a3270651c01b43cf6z http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766650838za53c823c12c9b46618c7250b81fe267cz http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766650840zbe93de6d3f8e85b165eb58064c05e06dz http://lrrooocb.eu.interia.pl, http://vdfhryfe.eu.interia.pl, http://qooicdad.eu.interia.pl - if I paste these URLs into a SpamCop window, it will parse it, and offer to report to spamcop -at- firma.interia.pl However, it will just ignore the hyperlinks when parsing the complete spam message, however often I press the refresh button. What's the point of this refusal? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 03:20:02 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Patto) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:34 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: jg wrote: > On 04/06/2009 07:32 AM Ellen scribbled: > >> jg wrote: >> >>> I'd call that timely, no offense to you Ellen... >> >> ???? >> >> >> Ellen >> > What I was referring to was the fact that this is 2009 and you are > referring to Outlook 2003 and 2007 - seems a tad late for someone to be > discovering this now. I think this is a very rare occurrence; I have been forwarding Outlook 2003 messages as attachments since - well, you guess it - and I have never had any problem with it. From Ag2000CO at NotValid.net Tue Apr 7 03:35:01 2009 From: Ag2000CO at NotValid.net (Lou) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:39 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Bar0 wrote, On 4/6/2009 11:52 AM: > > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net... >> As a result of a fairly lengthy and intense investigation of Outlook >> 2003 and 2007: Outlook does *not* include full and accurate headers >> when you forward spams as attachments. It reorders the Received >> headers, which makes them untrustworthy, as well as deleting/not >> forwarding other headers including X-headers, which is of less >> importance but which may loose some valuable information needed by >> ISPs/hosting companies. >> >> The result of the 'scrambled" or reordered Received headers means that >> SpamCop does not reliably know where the injection point of the spam is. >> >> Outlook is reordering the headers, not SpamCop. >> >> Thusly, if you are running Outlook you *may not* forward your spams as >> an attachment for processing. You can copy/paste or look into running >> mailwasher or some other 3rd party add-in/add-on but you must stop >> forwarding as an attachment. >> >> I want to thank the SC users who cheerfully gave of their time to help >> in tracking this down. > > How strange, I've never seen any received headers in a forwarded > WetlLook attachment, whether I forwarded as attachment or pasted the > spamitem into a new mail from the folders list., So I'm surprised that > received lines are reordered, since they've never been served up for me. > > Outlook Express , on the other hand, seems to work fine. Of course without a line-by-line comparison of the original and the parsed header how would you know if there was a problem. From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 04:25:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:53 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:grdifp$64t$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: > > >> >> I am merely pasting the email in the website reporting. >> >> >>> >>> Ellen >>> SpamCop >> >> > > > Your question can't be answered without a tracking url -- paste in the > spam and click the button, when the parse page comes up, copy the url at > the top and then cancel the reports. > Here it is; http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z > > Ellen > SpamCop From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 04:25:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:54 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:grdk3v$d0k$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: > >> I am now using Google's free mail service for your own domain name. >> I tried reporting some of the spam I get, but it cannot find the >> sender's source IP address. > > Methods to submit gmails to spamcop from the webfaq and the forumfaq: > > - webmail - copy from message source/ show original and paste into > webparser ala http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/410.html These > instructions are for web based email provided by Google (GMail) > - popping from gmail - described at > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4668 FAQ: POP'ing > GMAIL spam, for reporting Gmail spam en'masse > - imapping gmail w/ Tbird - described at > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=8921 Steps to report > Gmail spam as attachments via IMAP with Thunderbird, Grabbed from > Newsgroups: spamcop > > > How to make a tracker: > > 1 select and obtain the complete spam > 2 privatize the header&body content > 3 webparse it & copy the tracking URL > 4 cancel the report & paste the tracker in here > > > 1 ... in the manner described by the SC faq > http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html How do I get my email > program to reveal the full, unmodified email? > > 2 ... by modestly and unambiguously mungeing any private information you > don't want to expose, such as your name or email address which might > appear anywhere in the header or body. Avoid excessive or confusing > mungeing. > > 3 login to the SC webparser, paste in the spam, and click Process Spam > button; then copy the tracking URL from the top 'Here is your TRACKING > URL' of the appearance > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1505491930z5db2559eebcde98291b8e783c95d61cez > > 4 ... after parsing, the report is 'live' until the cancel button is > used. After cancelling the tracker disappears; the munged spam report > should be cancelled because it has been materially changed and because > you don't want to leave a tracker live. This last step cannot be done: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z No source IP address found, cannot proceed. Add/edit your mailhost configuration Finding full email headers Submitting spam via email (may work better) Example: What spam headers should look like Nothing to do. > > > > -- > Mike Easter > kibitzer, not SC admin > From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 04:25:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:40:55 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Twayne" wrote in message news:grdhfn$26t$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: >> "Ellen" wrote in message >> news:grdcr2$7g8$2@news.spamcop.net... >>> Trent wrote: >>> >>>> Looking at a headers it seems the source IP is in the header, but >>>> spamcop cannot parse it. >>>> >>>> Example: >>>> ------------ >>>> Received: from smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net (smtp-gw29.mailanyone.net >>>> [208.70.128.55]) >>>> ------------ >>>> >>>> Looking at this example, this line seems to be the source, but not >>>> detected. >>>> >>>> I have even submitted Goog mail for the Mailshosts and I keep >>>> getting errors indicating that I have not submitted all the headers. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Trent >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> Please provide a tracking URL and a description of exactly how you >>> are forwarding/bouncing/pointing the mail to SC. >> >> I am merely pasting the email in the website reporting. >> >> >>> >>> >>> Ellen >>> SpamCop > > You can still grab the tracker it produces and pass it on. It's near the > top of the parsed page; easy to find. Got it..above > From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 10:40:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:42:25 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > > This last step cannot be done: > > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z > > No source IP address found, cannot proceed. > Add/edit your mailhost configuration > Finding full email headers > Submitting spam via email (may work better) > Example: What spam headers should look like > > Nothing to do. > The message is accurate -- you have not done mailhosts for your gmail address. You need to run mailhosts for your gmail address. Ellen SpamCop From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 10:40:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:42:29 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Patto wrote: > jg wrote: >> On 04/06/2009 07:32 AM Ellen scribbled: >> >>> jg wrote: >>> >>>> I'd call that timely, no offense to you Ellen... >>> >>> ???? >>> >>> >>> Ellen >>> >> What I was referring to was the fact that this is 2009 and you are >> referring to Outlook 2003 and 2007 - seems a tad late for someone to be >> discovering this now. > > I think this is a very rare occurrence; I have been forwarding Outlook > 2003 messages as attachments since - well, you guess it - and I have > never had any problem with it. I doubt that it is rare -- I suspect it is happening for all spam forwarding for Outlook 2003 and 2007 *however* depending on how the headers are scrambled the results of the parse may be more or less accurate ... And indeed it would be useful for anyone with outlook 2003/2007 posting to this thread to do an imspection of the original headers as revealed by looking at them in Outlook vs the headers once they are forwarded as an attachment and report back ... Ellen SpamCop From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 14:55:02 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:44:09 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:grf6vo$2qi$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: > > >> >> This last step cannot be done: >> >> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z >> >> No source IP address found, cannot proceed. >> Add/edit your mailhost configuration >> Finding full email headers >> Submitting spam via email (may work better) >> Example: What spam headers should look like >> >> Nothing to do. >> > > The message is accurate -- you have not done mailhosts for your gmail > address. You need to run mailhosts for your gmail address. As mentioned, I did that and all were returned with errors: ---------------------------- Hello SpamCop user, Sorry, but SpamCop has encountered errors: Headers not found. It appears you did not provide all email headers. Please consult this FAQ for more information on getting full headers from your software, then try again. Please do not respond to this email (replies are ignored). If you need help, please consult the SpamCop website ( ). This email was sent in response to your email: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: SpamCop robot Date: Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 10:14 AM Subject: [SpamCop] account configuration email To: xxxxxxxx Hello SpamCop user, This email contains special codes and tracking information to help SpamCop figure out your specific email configuration. Do not post this email in public. It contains confidential information related to the security of your SpamCop account. Please return this complete email, preserving full headers and the special tracking codes below. Visit this address: http://www.spamcop.net/mcgi?action=mhreturn Alternately, you may submit via email. Forward the message as an attachment to this address. Or create a new message and paste this email into it. Either way, send it to to: mhconf.lIXxIFbQiVQb052l@cmds.spamcop.net Some email software may only support one or the other of these submission methods. For information on your email software and to learn how to get full headers see this FAQ: http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html Special codes follow: ################################################################ X-SpamCop-Mx: alt1.aspmx.l.google.com. X-SpamCop-Mx-Ip: 72.14.253.27 X-SpamCop-Mh-Name: GMail X-SpamCop-Recip: xxxxxxx X-SpamCop-Unixtime: 1239030858 X-SpamCop-Conf: lIXxIFbQiVQb052l X-SpamCop-Randomness: hq39FXVEk57RYBqj X-SpamCop-Hash: 64a0007416d9d3dcaac5aa1a9229968b ################################################################ > > > Ellen > SpamCop > From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Apr 7 16:35:01 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:44:31 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> Trent wrote: >> >>> I am now using Google's free mail service for your own domain name. >>> I tried reporting some of the spam I get, but it cannot find the >>> sender's source IP address. >> >> Methods to submit gmails to spamcop from the webfaq and the forumfaq: > This last step cannot be done: > www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z This is a tracker sufficient to demonstrate what is going on. > No source IP address found, cannot proceed. You submitted a spam for a mailhosted account which mailhost has not been setup comprehensively. If I take that same exact spam found at the tracker above (view entire message), and submit it to the parser for a nonmailhosted account of mine, the spam will parse. Here is its tracker: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2768357794zc4975e6815381d17c8cc77fcffdeb47fz Report Spam to: Re: 72.32.59.251 (Administrator of network where email originates) To: abuse@rackspace.com (Notes) Re: http://server.indiaproperty.com/IP_Campaign/tra... (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam) To: abuse@rackspace.com (Notes) Re: http://www.indiaproperty.com/index.php?option=m... (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam) To: abuse@rackspace.com (Notes) The purpose of that experimental cancelled parse was to demonstrate the 'parsability' of the spam and to demonstrate that if you are going to use a mailhosted account, which mailhosting has advantages, that the mailhosted account must be properly configured. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From not at home.today Tue Apr 7 16:40:01 2009 From: not at home.today (Ant) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:44:33 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Trent" wrote: > This email contains special codes and tracking information to help SpamCop > figure out your specific email configuration. Do not post this email in > public. It contains confidential information related to the security of > your SpamCop account. Perhaps it'd be better if you wern't a Spamcop reporter. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 17:10:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:44:37 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:grf6vo$2qi$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Trent wrote: >> >> >>> This last step cannot be done: >>> >>> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z >>> >>> No source IP address found, cannot proceed. >>> Add/edit your mailhost configuration >>> Finding full email headers >>> Submitting spam via email (may work better) >>> Example: What spam headers should look like >>> >>> Nothing to do. >>> >> The message is accurate -- you have not done mailhosts for your gmail >> address. You need to run mailhosts for your gmail address. > > As mentioned, I did that and all were returned with errors: > > ---------------------------- > > Hello SpamCop user, > > Sorry, but SpamCop has encountered errors: > > Headers not found. > You need to send the complete email you received *with full headers* to service@admin.spamcop.net -- there are things that need to be in the headers as well as in the body of the SC message for it to process correctly. And a note to all: if you try to add a mailhost and encounter errors you must stop reporting spam and contact service@admin.spamcop.net to get it straightened out. Ellen SpamCop From nobody at nowhere.not Tue Apr 7 19:25:01 2009 From: nobody at nowhere.not (Robert Blair) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:44:59 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] minor formatting problem for quick reporting response Message-ID: I get the following error whenever there is a "ISP has indicated spam will cease;" message in the quick reporting response. The web page appears to format correctly. Cached whois for 195.158.30.197 : lexa@albatros.uz Using last resort contacts lexa@albatros.uz error:ISP has indicated spam will cease; ISP resolved this issue sometime after Message is 6 hours old May be saved for future reference: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2768714470zdb8867ff4a6b26b877be72264e80cee9z -- Robert Blair From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 19:30:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:45:04 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Ellen" wrote in message news:grftrq$qrp$1@news.spamcop.net... > Trent wrote: >> "Ellen" wrote in message >> news:grf6vo$2qi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Trent wrote: >>> >>> >>>> This last step cannot be done: >>>> >>>> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z >>>> >>>> No source IP address found, cannot proceed. >>>> Add/edit your mailhost configuration >>>> Finding full email headers >>>> Submitting spam via email (may work better) >>>> Example: What spam headers should look like >>>> >>>> Nothing to do. >>>> >>> The message is accurate -- you have not done mailhosts for your gmail >>> address. You need to run mailhosts for your gmail address. >> >> As mentioned, I did that and all were returned with errors: >> >> ---------------------------- >> >> Hello SpamCop user, >> >> Sorry, but SpamCop has encountered errors: >> >> Headers not found. >> > > > > > You need to send the complete email you received *with full headers* to > service@admin.spamcop.net -- there are things that need to be in the > headers as well as in the body of the SC message for it to process > correctly. > Yeah and I followed all these directions BOTH ways: "Alternately, you may submit via email. Forward the message as an attachment to this address. Or create a new message and paste this email into it. Either way, send it to to: mhconf.lIXxIFbQiVQb052l@cmds.spamcop.net " Still does not answer the question > And a note to all: if you try to add a mailhost and encounter errors you > must stop reporting spam and contact service@admin.spamcop.net to get it > straightened out. > > > > Ellen > SpamCop From nobosy at spamcop.net Tue Apr 7 19:30:01 2009 From: nobosy at spamcop.net (Trent) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:45:07 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? References: Message-ID: "Ant" wrote in message news:grfrt2$mnq$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Trent" wrote: > >> This email contains special codes and tracking information to help >> SpamCop >> figure out your specific email configuration. Do not post this email in >> public. It contains confidential information related to the security of >> your SpamCop account. > > Perhaps it'd be better if you wern't a Spamcop reporter. > Maybe it would be better if you weren't such a moron. You think I give a crap about a reporting accoutn thtat took .00000001 seconds to create? *** PLONK *** > From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Apr 8 08:25:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:47:44 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > "Ellen" wrote in message >> >> You need to send the complete email you received *with full headers* to >> service@admin.spamcop.net -- there are things that need to be in the >> headers as well as in the body of the SC message for it to process >> correctly. Please read what I wrote -- I told you to send the whole thing with complete headers to service@admin.spamcop.net >> > > > Yeah and I followed all these directions BOTH ways: > > "Alternately, you may submit via email. Forward the message as an > attachment to this address. Or create a new message and paste this email > into it. Either way, send it to to: > > mhconf.lIXxIFbQiVQb052l@cmds.spamcop.net > No one said you didn't follow the directions -- I am telling you to send the confirmation email to Don if you want to be able to report spam and get the mailhosts issue fixed. > " > > Still does not answer the question What question would that be? Ellen SpamCop From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Apr 9 06:25:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:55:06 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: jg wrote: >> > What I was referring to was the fact that this is 2009 and you are > referring to Outlook 2003 and 2007 - seems a tad late for someone to be > discovering this now. Knowing MS, it may be something that was introduced through a recent update. AIRC, 2003 didn't forward headers in the attachment, therefore the need for one of the helper programs. Since 2007 came out, 2003 now includes headers, suggesting something was updated in the two most recent versions. Richard From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Apr 9 06:30:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:55:21 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Maybe this has been covered before: Gmail headers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Trent wrote: > "Ellen" wrote in message > news:grftrq$qrp$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Trent wrote: >>> "Ellen" wrote in message >>> news:grf6vo$2qi$1@news.spamcop.net... >>>> Trent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> This last step cannot be done: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2766885569za16007669b966c15c62bbd8829bc12e4z >>>>> >>>>> No source IP address found, cannot proceed. >>>>> Add/edit your mailhost configuration >>>>> Finding full email headers >>>>> Submitting spam via email (may work better) >>>>> Example: What spam headers should look like >>>>> >>>>> Nothing to do. >>>>> >>>> The message is accurate -- you have not done mailhosts for your gmail >>>> address. You need to run mailhosts for your gmail address. >>> As mentioned, I did that and all were returned with errors: >>> >>> ---------------------------- >>> >>> Hello SpamCop user, >>> >>> Sorry, but SpamCop has encountered errors: >>> >>> Headers not found. >>> >> >> >> >> You need to send the complete email you received *with full headers* to >> service@admin.spamcop.net -- there are things that need to be in the >> headers as well as in the body of the SC message for it to process >> correctly. >> > > > Yeah and I followed all these directions BOTH ways: > > "Alternately, you may submit via email. Forward the message as an > attachment to this address. Or create a new message and paste this email > into it. Either way, send it to to: > > mhconf.lIXxIFbQiVQb052l@cmds.spamcop.net Now you've revealed your account code publicly; I've had to reset it. You'll have to log into SpamCop and get your new submission address of the main page. Somewhere along the line in completing the mailhost setup, if an error is encountered you should find an option to file a "Mailhost Waiver Request". I'm not sure what point it comes up, but we get enough of them I know it's there and must be easy to find ;-) Richard From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Apr 9 06:35:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 10:55:26 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: minor formatting problem for quick reporting response In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Robert Blair wrote: > I get the following error whenever there is a "ISP has indicated spam will > cease;" message in the quick reporting response. The web page appears to > format correctly. > > > Cached whois for 195.158.30.197 : lexa@albatros.uz > Using last resort contacts lexa@albatros.uz > error:ISP has indicated spam will cease; ISP resolved this issue sometime > after > > Message is 6 hours old > May be saved for future reference: > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2768714470zdb8867ff4a6b26b877be72264e80cee9z There is nothing wrong with what you are seeing. If an ISP marks an issue closed/resolved in our database, no more reports will be sent for 24 hours after the date in the spam used to mark it resolved. The ISP closed the issue sometime after Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:44:24 AM -0600. The spam you are reporting was received before that time, there is no point sending reports. 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Collate 2.2.0 Timestone Software - CompositeBuilder 1.0.0 Timestone Software - DataPost 2.6.1 Timestone Software - NeoComposite 2.4.0 Timestone Software - NeoGroup 2.5.0 Timestone Software - NeoPack Professional 2.8.0 Timestone Software - OutPost 1.4.0 Timestone Software - PrintTime 1.11.0 Timestone Software - RIPTime 1.7.0 Ultimatte AdvantEdge 1.6.0 (plugin) Wasatch SoftRIP 5.1.5 X-Rite ColorShop 2.60 X-Rite PULSE ColorElite 1.0.2 Xinet FullPress 11.0.5 Xitron Raster Blaster 3.7 Xitron Xaps 2.1.3 Xitron XiFlow 2.5.0 - NEW ZBE WorkStream Digital Studio 2.1 email = xshowsoft@gmail.com email = xshowsoft at gmail.com From connyank at cox.net Fri Apr 10 05:35:02 2009 From: connyank at cox.net (jg) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:03:50 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 04/08/2009 10:21 PM RW scribbled: > jg wrote: > >> What I was referring to was the fact that this is 2009 and you are >> referring to Outlook 2003 and 2007 - seems a tad late for someone to be >> discovering this now. > > Knowing MS, it may be something that was introduced through a recent > update. AIRC, 2003 didn't forward headers in the attachment, therefore > the need for one of the helper programs. Since 2007 came out, 4 yrs later... 2003 now > includes headers, suggesting something was updated in the two most > recent versions. errrr, ok, whatever, its still a tad behind, I'd say... From ppearson at nowhere.invalid Fri Apr 10 06:20:01 2009 From: ppearson at nowhere.invalid (Peter Pearson) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:04:05 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Why no Chinese or Japanese blocking? Message-ID: It's great being able to steer Russian-language messages directly into my Held Mail folder. Why isn't there a similar option for Chinese, Japanese, and Korean? (I'm referring to the paying-subscriber webmail page, under Options / Spamcop Tools / Select your email filtering blacklists / Block Russian.) -- To email me, substitute nowhere->spamcop, invalid->net. From iwantsex at 0.1544783nowathome.com Fri Apr 10 19:51:48 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.1544783nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.1544783nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:09:19 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.4296018 Now Click Here To See ... 0.7139527 Message-ID: 0.1264794 Now Click Here To See ... 0.1544783 0.4296018 Now Visit Tobacco Is Drugs 0.7139527 From iwantsex at 0.7494276nowathome.com Fri Apr 10 20:21:19 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.7494276nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.7494276nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:09:54 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.3155381 Now We Can Help Each Other ... 0.6252967 Message-ID: 0.6960209 Now We Can Help Each Other ... 0.7494276 0.3155381 Now Visit Tobacco Is Drugs 0.6252967 From iwantsex at 0.9829168nowathome.com Fri Apr 10 21:03:11 2009 From: iwantsex at 0.9829168nowathome.com (iwantsex@0.9829168nowathome.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:10:02 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 0.6691131 Realize The Pleasure ... 0.4661678 Message-ID: 7.500368E-02 Realize The Pleasure ... 0.9829168 0.6691131 Now Visit Tobacco Is Drugs 0.4661678 From DLipman~nospam~ at Verizon.Net Fri Apr 10 18:18:19 2009 From: DLipman~nospam~ at Verizon.Net (David H. Lipman) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:10:37 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] SpamCop Spammer from Verizon Message-ID: With the spam like "0.6691131 Realize The Pleasure ... 0.4661678" Looks like an A$$hole on the Camden NJ Verizon PoP has it out for SpamCop.. pool-71-188-113-235.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net Unfortunately Verizon does NOT takes violations of the ToS/AUP that serious anymore unless it is CP related :-( -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp From MikeE at ster.invalid Fri Apr 10 15:30:01 2009 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:10:47 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: SpamCop Spammer from Verizon References: Message-ID: David H. Lipman wrote: > With the spam like "0.6691131 Realize The Pleasure ... 0.4661678" It is easily either ignored or filtered. You can filter on the username or the NPH nntp-posting-host IP, either/both of which appear in the overview. Even OE's dumb message rules can filter on the From username string; alternatively nfilter proxy can use the NPH; the SC news admin was kind to those who would want to use the NPH by putting it into the spamcop.news overview. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Apr 10 20:30:09 2009 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Wazoo) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:11:38 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Why no Chinese or Japanese blocking? References: Message-ID: "Peter Pearson" wrote in message news:grmknk$eb3$1@news.spamcop.net... > It's great being able to steer Russian-language messages > directly into my Held Mail folder. Why isn't there a > similar option for Chinese, Japanese, and Korean? > > (I'm referring to the paying-subscriber webmail page, under > Options / Spamcop Tools / Select your email filtering > blacklists / Block Russian.) I'd suggest that you're looking in the wrong places for answers. Suggest starting with; SpamCop Newsgroups http://forum.spamcop.net/scwik/SpamCopNewsgroups The off to the Forum to see how the Cyrillic stuff got added to the list as a specific entry. Hint, it wasn't an overnight piece of magic, nor the wish of a single user. From me at privacy.net Sat Apr 11 01:32:08 2009 From: me at privacy.net (Michael R N Dolbear) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:11:40 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: Why no Chinese or Japanese blocking? References: Message-ID: <01c9ba3b$0e064ae0$LocalHost@default> Peter Pearson wrote > It's great being able to steer Russian-language messages > directly into my Held Mail folder. Why isn't there a > similar option for Chinese, Japanese, and Korean? > > (I'm referring to the paying-subscriber webmail page, under > Options / Spamcop Tools / Select your email filtering > blacklists / Block Russian.) A very recent enhancement (27Sept08) to the SpamCop Mail service. It blocks email which have "koi8-r" in the headers. I used to have lots of these but when the flow of spam resumed after the 12Nov to 22Jan drop I saw hardly any (45 in Sept, 111 in Oct, 10 in Feb). If you would care to make an exactly specified proposal and check for false positives using Search and/or Filter and reports some numbers then JT might consider it. Do you have the China country blocklist set ? What SpamAssassin (SA) setting ? I have just checked and with 3000+ spams a month and about 1% leakers I have had no Chinese, Japanese, and Korean leakers in at least the last 6 months . Apparently for my input SpamAssassin (SA) stops them all. -- Mike D From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Apr 10 22:47:54 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:12:20 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: jg wrote: > > errrr, ok, whatever, its still a tad behind, I'd say... > Except you have to consider releases of MS Office are about three to four years apart... 97, 2000, 2003, 2007. The major redesign of 2007 is very much a culture shock to those used to the display of earlier versions. I know many who go back to 2003 simply because they don't like the appearance of 2007. Consider also the fact that most people who have a choice choose something other than Outlook. Most that are stuck with Outlook are stuck there due to corporate decisions, who take their time to upgrade. Richard From connyank at cox.net Fri Apr 10 22:49:16 2009 From: connyank at cox.net (jg) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:12:34 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: ******* Outlook users please read ******** In-Reply-To: References: <49D9F05B.3060502@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On 04/10/2009 08:47 PM RW scribbled: > jg wrote: >> errrr, ok, whatever, its still a tad behind, I'd say... >> > > Except you have to consider releases of MS Office are about three to > four years apart... 97, 2000, 2003, 2007. The major redesign of 2007 is > very much a culture shock to those used to the display of earlier > versions. I know many who go back to 2003 simply because they don't > like the appearance of 2007. > not to beat a dead horse, seemingly acknowledging awareness of a flaw 6 yrs. later is not exactly timely. you are addressing 2007 users going back to 2003 while it is now 2009. >> Consider also the fact that most people who have a choice choose >> something other than Outlook. Most that are stuck with Outlook are >> stuck there due to corporate decisions, who take their time to upgrade. >> and that is relevant how? From 0.3591734realizeitistrue at 0.9252839now.com Sat Apr 11 17:20:45 2009 From: 0.3591734realizeitistrue at 0.9252839now.com (0.3591734realizeitistrue@0.9252839now.com) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:16:31 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] 4.098356E-03 Now We Can Help Each Other ... 0.4593505 Message-ID: 0.3591734 Now We Can Help Each Other ... 0.9252839 4.098356E-03 Now Visit Tobacco Is Drugs 0.4593505 From nobody at nowhere.not Sat Apr 11 18:17:24 2009 From: nobody at nowhere.not (Robert Blair) Date: Sat Apr 25 11:17:02 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-List] Re: minor formatting problem for quick reporting response References: Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 05:32:14 UTC, RW wrote: > > I get the following error whenever there is a "ISP has indicated spam will > > cease;" message in the quick reporting response. The web page appears to > > format correctly. > > > > > > Cached whois for 195.158.30.197 : lexa@albatros.uz > > Using last resort contacts lexa@albatros.uz > > error:ISP has indicated spam will cease; ISP resolved this issue sometime > > after > > > > Message is 6 hours old > > May be saved for future reference: > > http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z2768714470zdb8867ff4a6b26b877be72264e80cee9z > > There is nothing wrong with what you are seeing. If an ISP marks an > issue closed/resolved in our database, no more reports will be sent for > 24 hours after the date in the spam used to mark it resolved. > > The ISP closed the issue sometime after Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:44:24 > AM -0600. The spam you are reporting was received before that time, > there is no point sending reports. I know what the "error:ISP has indicated spam will cease;" means. What I was referring to was the formatting of the message which changed with the last update. The