From dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com Sat Apr 2 14:10:34 2005
From: dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com (Jim Carroll)
Date: Sat Apr 2 15:15:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Blacklisting China
Message-ID:
Hello
Please forgive my stupidity. Is it possible using SpamCop mail to blacklist
any mail originating in or relayed through any domain in China?
Many spammers utilize China as an intermediary, it seems, and many Chinese
postmasters refuse SpamCop reports. I don't know anyone in China, so it's
unlikely I'd lose anything but spam by doing this.
Is this feasible?
Thanks in advance.
From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat Apr 2 12:28:16 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Sat Apr 2 15:30:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
Jim Carroll wrote:
> Please forgive my stupidity. Is it possible using SpamCop mail to
> blacklist any mail originating in or relayed through any domain in
> China?
I don't use SC mail, so I don't know what blocklists are available, but
if there is access to the blackholes.us filter for .ch, you could pick
that - china.blackholes.us
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
From 79ytka802 at sneakemail.com Sat Apr 2 21:30:47 2005
From: 79ytka802 at sneakemail.com (Aviatrix)
Date: Sat Apr 2 15:35:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Mike Easter wrote:
> I don't use SC mail, so I don't know what blocklists are available, but
> if there is access to the blackholes.us filter for .ch, you could pick
> that - china.blackholes.us
You mean .cn, don't you?
.ch is Switzerland.
From eddie at eddie.web Sat Apr 2 16:06:15 2005
From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie)
Date: Sat Apr 2 16:10:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 14:10:34 -0600, Jim Carroll scratched out the
following:
> Hello
>
> Please forgive my stupidity. Is it possible using SpamCop mail to
> blacklist any mail originating in or relayed through any domain in China?
>
> Many spammers utilize China as an intermediary, it seems, and many Chinese
> postmasters refuse SpamCop reports. I don't know anyone in China, so it's
> unlikely I'd lose anything but spam by doing this.
>
> Is this feasible?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Yes, SC has a blacklist for all of china
It is listed as:
China (the country) cn.rbl.cluecentral.net www.cluecentral.net/rbl/
Just select it in your Options->Blacklists and be done with them
--
Once movie theaters gave out steak knives
Today they confiscate them
From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat Apr 2 16:05:16 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Sat Apr 2 19:05:11 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
Aviatrix wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>
>
>> I don't use SC mail, so I don't know what blocklists are available,
>> but if there is access to the blackholes.us filter for .ch, you
>> could pick that - china.blackholes.us
>
> You mean .cn, don't you?
>
> .ch is Switzerland.
You are correct, ma'am -- silly me. I think I was getting ready to type
china and then switched gears and ground [grinded?] them because the
brain clutch didn't properly disengage.
Switzerland is .ch because it is Confoederatio Helvetica
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Apr 2 18:11:36 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO)
Date: Sat Apr 2 19:15:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
"Jim Carroll" wrote in message
news:d2mu87$bir$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> Please forgive my stupidity. Is it possible using SpamCop mail to
blacklist
> any mail originating in or relayed through any domain in China?
The web-Forum FAQ http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238
includes an entry "Blocking and Blackhole lists available" under the
SpamCop E-Mail System and Accounts section.....
From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat Apr 2 16:34:05 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Sat Apr 2 19:35:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
WazoO wrote:
> "Jim Carroll"
>> Please forgive my stupidity. Is it possible using SpamCop mail to
>> blacklist any mail originating in or relayed through any domain in
>> China?
>
> The web-Forum FAQ
> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238 includes an
> entry "Blocking and Blackhole lists available" under the SpamCop
> E-Mail System and Accounts section.....
Actually, the linkto your post which sez what the blocklists are is this
one:
http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2594&st=0&p=16838
List as provided by one of the newsgroup users (S. Maesslein)
10 Sep 2004
bl.spamcop.net
l1.spews.dnsbl.sorbs.net
list.dsbl.org
sbl.spamhaus.org
korea.services.net
cn.rbl.cluecentral.net
nigeria.blackholes.us
argentina.blackholes.us
brazil.blackholes.us
cbl.abuseat.org
xbl.spamhaus.org
dnsbl.sorbs.net
If I had remembered that SC was using cluecentral's instead of
blackhole's, my search would've worked
[advanced google web on the forum and the blocklist]
I wonder what was the thinking for SC choosing cluecentral's over
blackhole's.
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Apr 2 20:54:23 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO)
Date: Sat Apr 2 21:55:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Blacklisting China
References:
Message-ID:
"Mike Easter" wrote in message
news:d2ndio$klb$1@news.spamcop.net...
> WazoO wrote:
> >
> > The web-Forum FAQ
> > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238 includes an
> > entry "Blocking and Blackhole lists available" under the SpamCop
> > E-Mail System and Accounts section.....
>
> Actually, the linkto your post which sez what the blocklists are is this
> one:
>
> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2594&st=0&p=16838
Yeah, but as you know, I'm not into the spoon-feeding, and that
there is so much other data in the FAQ for other questions not
yet thought of...
> If I had remembered that SC was using cluecentral's instead of
> blackhole's, my search would've worked
And as you also noticed, I had to ask for help to even get this
data "out" .... Actually haven't clue if that list is still valid or
anywhere near complete .....
> I wonder what was the thinking for SC choosing cluecentral's over
> blackhole's.
That'd be a JT thing I know that some of the lists
offered were based on user requests.
From andy.lawson at bigfoot.com Mon Apr 4 18:59:53 2005
From: andy.lawson at bigfoot.com (Andy)
Date: Mon Apr 4 13:00:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Can I whitelist on a to: address?
Message-ID:
Hi all,
I'd like to be able to whitelist mail I receive via a forwarding
account. The mail arrives showing as to: the address doing the
forwarding, not from it. I don't know who's gonna send it so I can't
whitelist them.
Is there a way around this?
Cheers,
Andy.
From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 4 14:06:05 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Dave Lerner)
Date: Mon Apr 4 13:10:10 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Andy wrote:
> I'd like to be able to whitelist mail I receive via a forwarding
> account. The mail arrives showing as to: the address doing the
> forwarding, not from it. I don't know who's gonna send it so I can't
> whitelist them.
http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/302.html
From MikeE at ster.invalid Mon Apr 4 11:16:02 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Mon Apr 4 13:15:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
References:
Message-ID:
Dave Lerner wrote:
> Andy wrote:
>> I'd like to be able to whitelist mail I receive via a forwarding
>> account. The mail arrives showing as to: the address doing the
>> forwarding, not from it. I don't know who's gonna send it so I can't
>> whitelist them.
>
> http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/302.html
This link sez the whitelist is looking at the various
From/Sender/envSender http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/303.html
My SpamPal client side filter has an ignore function which would work to
solve that problem, but I don't know about SC mail.
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
From jeffg at spamcop.net Mon Apr 4 18:54:56 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Mon Apr 4 17:55:15 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
References:
Message-ID:
Andy wrote:
> I'd like to be able to whitelist mail I receive via a forwarding
> account. The mail arrives showing as to: the address doing the
> forwarding, not from it. I don't know who's gonna send it so I can't
> whitelist them.
>
> Is there a way around this?
Sorry, there isn't. To achieve what you want, I'd suggest forwarding
from that forwarding account directly to your secret account, or turning
off forwarding and collecting from it directly, using rules on your
client to do what you will with the resulting emails.
--
Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From andy.lawson at bigfoot.com Tue Apr 5 12:21:43 2005
From: andy.lawson at bigfoot.com (Andy)
Date: Tue Apr 5 06:25:33 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Jeff G. wrote:
> Sorry, there isn't. To achieve what you want, I'd suggest forwarding
> from that forwarding account directly to your secret account, or turning
> off forwarding and collecting from it directly, using rules on your
> client to do what you will with the resulting emails.
Thanks for the response, Jeff.
What's a secret account? Looking through the SpamCop FAQ, there's a
reference to a secret account being an ISP hosted account to which
SpamCop is configured to forward non-spam mail. Is this what you mean?
Unfortunately, I use SpamCop to host my mail for me. My mail client is
configured to get mail directly from imap.spamcop.net - you are an awful
lot more reliable than my ISP's mail servers.
Cheers,
Andy.
From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Apr 5 22:03:09 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (nobody)
Date: Tue Apr 5 08:05:11 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] I keep getting this spam everyday.
Message-ID:
Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I have
forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about it. Can
anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all the time. I am
so sick of it.
X-Message-Status: n
X-SID-PRA: ° Áö¿ø
X-SID-Result: TempError
X-Message-Info: 1fLmhUU0vWHOUUVx44IVD+ZZog50Q716PdLSzDjEbGs=
Received: from 220.116.75.186 ([220.116.75.186]) by mc11-f30.hotmail.com
with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:28:55 -0700
Message-ID:
From: "° Áö¿ø"
Reply-To: "lq5195@kukukuwolow.com"
To: hojur1052@hotmail.com
Subject: Ä«µå´ëÃâ
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:26:00 +0600
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X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Return-Path: lq5195@kukukuwolow.com
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2005 10:28:55.0974 (UTC)
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From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Apr 5 07:56:52 2005
From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter)
Date: Tue Apr 5 10:00:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
nobody wrote:
> Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I
> have forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about
> it. Can anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all
> the time. I am so sick of it.
You should be configured in such a way that there is very little spam in
your Inbox with your wanted mail.
When the only spam you ever see is the spam you intentionally go to a
folder to visit, it doesn't feel like an attack and it doesn't make you
sick.
Using SC as a reporting tool doesn't do much of anything to reduce your
spam. It facilitates contributions to the SCbl, the spamcop blocklist,
a popular and dynamic blocklist used by many to aid in filtering their
mail. I use it along with other blocklists to keep spam out of my Inbox
by tagging it.
If you are a spamcop mail subscriber, your filters should be keeping
spam from your inbox as well. That particular item would've been
filtered by my filters because it is on the spamcop blocklist, along
with a number of others I don't use.
--
Mike Easter
kibitzer, not SC admin
From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue Apr 5 12:29:42 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Tue Apr 5 11:40:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
References:
Message-ID:
Andy wrote:
> Jeff G. wrote:
>> Sorry, there isn't. To achieve what you want, I'd suggest forwarding
>> from that forwarding account directly to your secret account, or
>> turning off forwarding and collecting from it directly, using rules
>> on your client to do what you will with the resulting emails.
>
> Thanks for the response, Jeff.
>
> What's a secret account? Looking through the SpamCop FAQ, there's a
> reference to a secret account being an ISP hosted account to which
> SpamCop is configured to forward non-spam mail. Is this what you mean?
>
> Unfortunately, I use SpamCop to host my mail for me. My mail client is
> configured to get mail directly from imap.spamcop.net - you are an
> awful lot more reliable than my ISP's mail servers.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy.
Can you configure your mail client to also get mail directly from your
current "forwarding account", or is forwarding all they do?
--
Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue Apr 5 12:38:23 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Tue Apr 5 11:40:06 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
nobody wrote:
> Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I
> have forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about
> it. Can anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all
> the time. I am so sick of it.
...
> Received: from 220.116.75.186 ([220.116.75.186]) by
> mc11-f30.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
> Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:28:55 -0700
You could also increase your Hotmail Junk E-Mail Filter level.
--
Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From andy.lawson at bigfoot.com Thu Apr 7 19:43:26 2005
From: andy.lawson at bigfoot.com (Andy Lawson)
Date: Thu Apr 7 13:45:26 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
Jeff G. wrote:
> Can you configure your mail client to also get mail directly from your
> current "forwarding account", or is forwarding all they do?
Unfortunately, it's just a forwarder. It's a group account that forwards
to others as well. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on my Held Mail.
Cheers!
From jeffg at spamcop.net Fri Apr 8 03:53:46 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Fri Apr 8 03:00:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Can I whitelist on a to: address?
References:
Message-ID:
Andy Lawson wrote:
> Jeff G. wrote:
>> Can you configure your mail client to also get mail directly from
>> your current "forwarding account", or is forwarding all they do?
>
> Unfortunately, it's just a forwarder. It's a group account that
> forwards to others as well. I guess I'll just have to keep an eye on
> my Held Mail.
Can you have it forward to, say, Yahoo! UK or fastmail.fm account with a
secret address like asf075asf54? You could then POP from there.
--
Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Sun Apr 10 16:22:39 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 08:25:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] White listing the mail affects RBL/Bayesian?
Message-ID:
Hi,
I wonder if whitelisting mail, the false positives I get will do
anything to RBL/bayesian filter of Spamcop.
Of course, when you white list, you will get mail from that address but
I think about preventing future false positives for other users.
Have a nice day
Ilgaz Ocal
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Sun Apr 10 16:25:44 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Sun Apr 10 08:30:02 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
If you don't plan to make Korean, Chinese friends or business with them,
go to advanced filters (RBL) and block them as whole countries.
We keep reporting them, nothing happens.
Those mails will go to "held mail", they won't be deleted. You can
report them if you want.
Ilgaz Ocal
ps: I am just a user like you
In article ,
"nobody" wrote:
> Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I have
> forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about it. Can
> anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all the time. I am
> so sick of it.
>
>
> X-Message-Status: n
> X-SID-PRA: ° Áö¿ø
> X-SID-Result: TempError
> X-Message-Info: 1fLmhUU0vWHOUUVx44IVD+ZZog50Q716PdLSzDjEbGs=
> Received: from 220.116.75.186 ([220.116.75.186]) by mc11-f30.hotmail.com
> with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
> Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:28:55 -0700
> Message-ID:
> From: "° Áö¿ø"
> Reply-To: "lq5195@kukukuwolow.com"
> To: hojur1052@hotmail.com
> Subject: Ä«µå´ëÃâ
> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:26:00 +0600
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
> boundary="--76131419545800769713"
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> Return-Path: lq5195@kukukuwolow.com
> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2005 10:28:55.0974 (UTC)
> FILETIME=[455BAC60:01C539CA]
>
> ----76131419545800769713
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>
> Ä«µå´ëÃâ
>
> card77.cc.to
>
> ----76131419545800769713--
From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Apr 11 21:13:21 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (nobody)
Date: Mon Apr 11 07:15:22 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
Trouble is I live here in South Korea. And they will not do anything about
spam at Kornet been there tried that wasted my time and words till I was red
in the face.
"Ilgaz Ocal" wrote in message
news:Ilgaz-25DB2B.15254410042005@news.spamcop.net...
> If you don't plan to make Korean, Chinese friends or business with them,
> go to advanced filters (RBL) and block them as whole countries.
>
> We keep reporting them, nothing happens.
>
> Those mails will go to "held mail", they won't be deleted. You can
> report them if you want.
>
>
> Ilgaz Ocal
> ps: I am just a user like you
>
> In article ,
> "nobody" wrote:
>
>> Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I have
>> forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about it. Can
>> anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all the time. I
>> am
>> so sick of it.
>>
>>
>> X-Message-Status: n
>> X-SID-PRA: ° Áö¿ø
>> X-SID-Result: TempError
>> X-Message-Info: 1fLmhUU0vWHOUUVx44IVD+ZZog50Q716PdLSzDjEbGs=
>> Received: from 220.116.75.186 ([220.116.75.186]) by mc11-f30.hotmail.com
>> with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211);
>> Tue, 5 Apr 2005 03:28:55 -0700
>> Message-ID:
>> From: "° Áö¿ø"
>> Reply-To: "lq5195@kukukuwolow.com"
>> To: hojur1052@hotmail.com
>> Subject: Ä«µå´ëÃâ
>> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 16:26:00 +0600
>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="--76131419545800769713"
>> X-Priority: 3
>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>> Return-Path: lq5195@kukukuwolow.com
>> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2005 10:28:55.0974 (UTC)
>> FILETIME=[455BAC60:01C539CA]
>>
>> ----76131419545800769713
>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>>
>> Ä«µå´ëÃâ
>>
>> card77.cc.to
>>
>> ----76131419545800769713--
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Mon Apr 11 23:24:41 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Mon Apr 11 15:25:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
Oh, it would be problem than. Sorry.
You can only rely on bayesian (word pattern based) stuff and mail
address filtering I guess.
I can't believe they don't take action for your reported stuff even...
Unbelieavable..
Have a nice day
Ilgaz Ocal
On 2005-04-11 14:13:21 +0300, "nobody" said:
> Trouble is I live here in South Korea. And they will not do anything
> about spam at Kornet been there tried that wasted my time and words
> till I was red in the face.
>
>
> "Ilgaz Ocal" wrote in message
> news:Ilgaz-25DB2B.15254410042005@news.spamcop.net...
>> If you don't plan to make Korean, Chinese friends or business with them,
>> go to advanced filters (RBL) and block them as whole countries.
>>
>> We keep reporting them, nothing happens.
>>
>> Those mails will go to "held mail", they won't be deleted. You can
>> report them if you want.
>>
>>
>> Ilgaz Ocal
>> ps: I am just a user like you
>>
>> In article ,
>> "nobody" wrote:
>>
>>> Hello I am getting a spam like this each and every day and whilst I have
>>> forwarded every spam to Spamcop, noting seems to be doen about it. Can
>>> anyone tell me how to stop this spammer from attacking me all the time. I am
>>> so sick of it.
From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue Apr 12 23:09:51 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Tue Apr 12 22:10:18 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: White listing the mail affects RBL/Bayesian?
References:
Message-ID:
Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> I wonder if whitelisting mail, the false positives I get will do
> anything to RBL/bayesian filter of Spamcop.
>
> Of course, when you white list, you will get mail from that address
> but I think about preventing future false positives for other users.
No, the filtering for one user is not affected at all by another user's
whitelists.
--
Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Wed Apr 13 07:01:50 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Tue Apr 12 23:05:09 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: White listing the mail affects RBL/Bayesian?
References:
Message-ID:
On 2005-04-13 05:09:51 +0300, "Jeff G." said:
> Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
>> I wonder if whitelisting mail, the false positives I get will do
>> anything to RBL/bayesian filter of Spamcop.
>>
>> Of course, when you white list, you will get mail from that address
>> but I think about preventing future false positives for other users.
>
> No, the filtering for one user is not affected at all by another user's
> whitelists.
So, it affects me at least. Thanks.
Ilgaz Ocal
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Thu Apr 14 13:59:40 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Thu Apr 14 06:00:24 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Re: 123STORE.BIZ, 1SECURESTORE.INFO, 123SECURESTORE.COM,
SALEZSITE.INFO spammer
References:
Message-ID:
On 2005-03-13 12:11:41 +0200, "Anonymous" said:
> If you're tired of getting spam day in and day out from these spammers
> (offering a device to steal cable TV signals, and credit repair), then
> please feel free to load up the SpamVampire and hit them for all their
> worth.
>
> SpamVampire:
> http://www.hillscapital.com/antispam/
>
> They use several tricks to remain in operation...
> 1) They use redirect domains (see below), so automated parsers such as
> SpamCop can't report the actual spamvertised website.
> (snip)
> The most telling 'mark' of their spam at the moment is that there is
> always the name "lisa" somewhere in the URL.
Is there a special advantage of .info domain to spammers? Trivial, just
wondering...
They worked for years to make it accepted and now let spammers abuse it?
As turks, we hated the METU (www.metu.edu.tr) policy of needing real
paperwork to give .com (company) and .org domain name, now they say
"look at all those lawsuits by legit companies, we were right".
Info is new and in this network "hell", they didn't put countermeasures
against obviously existing high tech criminals?
I mean, I see your post, its not that put @ before domain stuff anymore.
Ilgaz Ocal
(btw at least the first part of site you reported is unreachable, good news)
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Thu Apr 14 14:04:38 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Thu Apr 14 06:05:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Need help with spamcop on this
References:
Message-ID:
On 2005-03-09 09:46:33 +0200, Caduceus said:
> Hi:
>
> On Monday, I decided to download Pine. I thought I configured my
> pinerc file correctly, however whenever I try to connect Pine will say
> "Trouble reading remote collections, Try Again?". Also, Pine will not
> connect to my imap server. Here is how I have the pinerc file
> configured. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong, and what changes
> I need to do to make it work?
>
> -----------------
> If anyone can tell me what changes I need to make to my pinerc file I
> would appreciate it. TIA.
As a rule, never post anything from your ~ (user) folder to open net,
e.g. usenet. All that security exists to protect your home folder in
whatever system you use.
If you click http://mailsc.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/334.html (or
clicked help, like me) you will see Pine stuff.
Also nothing except usenet's pine related group can help about pine,
its a huge advanced client.
Have a nice day
Ilgaz
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Thu Apr 14 14:27:24 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz Ocal)
Date: Thu Apr 14 06:30:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
A mad user test about spamcop.net mail at /. (3 weeks)
Message-ID:
You would call me mad for it.
As it would end up in spammers hands anyway (guys having custom worms)
so as I moved to Spamcop mail from Yahoo "plus" (yea, plus without apop
even) I had a mad idea.
I gave my mail on Slashdot, no "nospam" etc mess added, open mail. I
don't get how spammer supposed not to filter those basic additions but
anyway...
3 weeks. Total 3 manually sent (no zombie etc) mails from obvious
morons and all ended up in my held mail for reporting. One was a big
looking French owned market company. I mailed them some stuff about
frogs ;) No, not swearing of course. No need to go down their level.
Having only 3 mails as spam helped me to check the actual stuff and
remember, now a usenet user with my real mail, I didn't have access to
usenet for that 3 weeks.
Only place given was slashdot. I found it very interesting and mailed
to CmdrTaco (founder) about it. I don't know if he read that or not, we
speak about slashdot here and that guy is founder... I really wonder
his mailbox when he wakes up each day.
So, old fashioned harvesters are alive and well, can pass that maniac
code of Slashdot even checking your proxy while posting and bravo
Spamcop and its users. Or, worse? Worms harvesting mail addresses?
Companies? The most blamed one, real networks, using for 20 months
their "radiopass" and before like 4 years or more every single real
version (like streaming) is clean. Of course, don't tell it on slashdot
unless you want -1 mod thing. Gotta love the freedom of speech.
Only problem is, I am 2x in more regret I paid yahoo now.. :) Well, I
was on beers and Myrealbox (Novell) didn't filter anything (on purpose,
they are beta testing)
I hope this post is relevant, I think it may give new users (like me) a
clue about the power we speak about.
Have a nice day
Ilgaz Ocal
From dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com Mon Apr 18 19:55:19 2005
From: dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com (Jim Carroll)
Date: Mon Apr 18 20:00:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Lost password for email service
Message-ID:
Any idea how to recover same? There doesn't seem to be a "Forgot your
password?" link. I could have sworn the password I used was correct, but no
go.
Now it's gotten me wondering whether I actually IMAGINED that I signed up
for mail. Can't find a way to confirm that, either.
Thanks.
Jim
--
It's not that I don't like "smooth jazz", it's just that I like lumpy jazz
better.
From jeffg at spamcop.net Mon Apr 18 22:54:20 2005
From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.)
Date: Mon Apr 18 21:55:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Lost password for email service
References:
Message-ID:
Jim Carroll wrote:
> Any idea how to recover same? There doesn't seem to be a "Forgot your
> password?" link. I could have sworn the password I used was correct,
> but no go.
>
> Now it's gotten me wondering whether I actually IMAGINED that I
> signed up for mail. Can't find a way to confirm that, either.
You ahould have on file your emailed receipt for payment. Please
contact support@spamcop.net with a copy of that receipt.
--
Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G.
I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a
Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for
getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group,
or List only.
From ariane at freenet.de Fri Apr 22 05:44:08 2005
From: ariane at freenet.de (Ariane)
Date: Thu Apr 21 22:45:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Meine geilen Bilder
Message-ID: <426863e9$1$17971$6d4158fb@reader-1.xsnews.nl>
Hi, hier sind meine geilen Bilder!
My nude Pics!!!
http://www.geile-tipps.info/go/
--
Posted by News Bulk Poster
Unregistered version
From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Apr 22 18:12:37 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen)
Date: Fri Apr 22 17:20:28 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] System outage
Message-ID:
The system is down and we have people working on the problem. Unfortunately
I do not have an estimated time to repair.
If someone would propagate this to the forums I would appreciate it!
Ellen
SpamCop
followups to spamcop
From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Apr 22 20:19:48 2005
From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen)
Date: Fri Apr 22 19:26:25 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] The system is back up
Message-ID:
Thanks!
Ellen
SpamCop
From dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com Sat Apr 23 16:27:18 2005
From: dogworkings at DELETE.pobox.THIS.com (Jim Carroll)
Date: Sat Apr 23 16:35:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
"> If you don't plan to make Korean, Chinese friends or business with them,
> go to advanced filters (RBL) and block them as whole countries.
>
> We keep reporting them, nothing happens.
>
> Those mails will go to "held mail", they won't be deleted. You can
> report them if you want.
Someone clarify for me. If the spam is in "held mail", then doesn't that
mean it's already been reported? Or is it just because the mail fits a
pattern?
I have just been using the "delete" option. I do want to report spammers
and irresponsible relay operators. So, should I report the "held mail"
instead of deleting it?
Thanks.
From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Apr 23 20:55:05 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO)
Date: Sat Apr 23 21:00:29 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
References:
Message-ID:
"Jim Carroll" wrote in message
news:d4eb8p$9ld$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
> Someone clarify for me. If the spam is in "held mail", then doesn't that
> mean it's already been reported? Or is it just because the mail fits a
> pattern?
>
> I have just been using the "delete" option. I do want to report spammers
> and irresponsible relay operators. So, should I report the "held mail"
> instead of deleting it?
Much of this explained in the much expanded Forum FAQ (which
includes the spamcop.net FAQ) .... specific item would include
the "How I use .." entry, but there is much more there to peruse ...
http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/
From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Sat Apr 23 19:17:43 2005
From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Brian (SnSR))
Date: Sat Apr 23 21:25:03 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: I keep getting this spam everyday.
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID:
WazoO wrote:
> "Jim Carroll" wrote in message
> news:d4eb8p$9ld$1@news.spamcop.net...
>
>>Someone clarify for me. If the spam is in "held mail", then doesn't that
>>mean it's already been reported? Or is it just because the mail fits a
>>pattern?
>>
>>I have just been using the "delete" option. I do want to report spammers
>>and irresponsible relay operators. So, should I report the "held mail"
>>instead of deleting it?
>
>
> Much of this explained in the much expanded Forum FAQ (which
> includes the spamcop.net FAQ) .... specific item would include
> the "How I use .." entry, but there is much more there to peruse ...
> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/
>
>
In a more simplified answer, in case you don't wish to visit the Forum,
the held mail is just that, Held mail. It is waiting for you to
determine if it is spam or ham. You need to look through it to see if
there is any false positives and then you can report it.
Just hitting delete does just that. It deletes it. Without reporting it.
You have the option of clicking the Report as spam link that is below
the Mark as, or clicking the Report Spam link at the top of the window
(next to Held Mail).
The Report as spam link quick reports, which only reports the source of
the email. The other Report Spam link allows you to choose to quick
report some of the spam and make a full report of others.
I like to go through the Held Mail to look for any false positives and
then click the Report Spam link and go through the list once again. This
list shows the actual email address, so I may catch a false positive
because of looking at them. Once in this mode, I check all and look
through the list and uncheck false positives and any others that I want
to spend a little more time reporting. I then quick report the first
batch and then Queue for reporting or Forward (and whitelist sender) for
the others.
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Sun Apr 24 18:33:19 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz)
Date: Sun Apr 24 10:35:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Citizen bank (new?) $5 phishing passed spamcop (all RBL on)
Message-ID:
Hi,
Pasting below, Eudora pro alerts me fine about Phishing, have no clue
about that bank but maybe popular there in USA, so crossposting to
spamcop.mail.
I better warn: WARNING, MAIL PASTED BELOW IS A PHISHING ATTEMPT, NOT A
REAL BANK MAIL!
Have a nice day
Ilgaz
Return-Path:
Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ilgaz@spamcop.net
Received: (qmail 14872 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2005 13:30:48 -0000
Received: from unknown (192.168.1.101)
by blade2.cesmail.net with QMQP; 24 Apr 2005 13:30:48 -0000
Received: from customersites2.easily.co.uk (213.152.250.16)
by mailgate.cesmail.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 2005 13:30:44 -0000
Received: (qmail 3951 invoked by uid 48); 24 Apr 2005 13:09:16 -0000
Date: 24 Apr 2005 13:09:16 -0000
Message-ID: <20050424130916.3950.qmail@customersites2.easily.co.uk>
To: ilgaz@spamcop.net
Subject: Important notice
From: CitizensBank Customer Department
Reply-To: noreply@citizensbank.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on blade2.cesmail.net
X-Spam-Level: *
X-Spam-Status: hits=1.9 tests=FRONTPAGE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,
MIME_HTML_ONLY version=3.0.0
X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.101 213.152.250.16
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for answering 5 easy questions!
|
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From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun Apr 24 13:19:38 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO)
Date: Sun Apr 24 13:20:21 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Forum FAQ entry list
Message-ID:
Not done since January, here's an entry list of the
web-Forum FAQ, which incorporates the www.spamcop.net
FAQ data/links. Not going to do an HTML version,
and adding in the link data would simply end up
being too huge and messy. The actual item is found
at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238
Last Revised : 24 April 2005
SpamCop Glossary
SpamCop FAQ .... (FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions)
Overview of SpamCop Services - (somebody deleted this entry ... best
replacement seems to be the following ...)
How does SpamCop reporting work?
Why am I Blocked?
Has your email been blocked? (ISP, Mailing List Admin, Advertiser)
SpamCop Blocking List - Am I listed?
Why am I getting all these bounces?
Why does SpamCop want to send a report to my own network administrator?
Password Problems?
Am I running mailing lists responsibly? Updated!
Outlook 2003 REG hack to work around MIME issues
Alternate Outlook 2003/XP e-mail submit methods
NEW Why Outlook Express Forward doesn't work / Secure E-Mail Handling
E-Mail Address Removal, Unsubscription, & Listwashing
Yahoo Groups Mail Blocked?
Say NO to the Challenge/Response Lunacy
Cost of Spam
Spammer Rules
How can I contact a SpamCop representative?
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (language issue, but there really is only
one defintion for RTFM)
SpamCop Parsing and Reporting Service
What is this? How does it work? How do I use it?
SpamCop Analogous to a Credit Reporting Agency?
How do I sign up?
Rules - everybody read! (recent changes made ... you may need to re-look)
What do I need to know to get started reporting spam?
Parsing & Reporting spam - decisions, problems
How do I get my email program to reveal the full, unmodified email?
How do I configure Mailhosts for SpamCop?
NEW One version of a Step-by-step MailHost set-up
How do I submit spam via email?
E-Mail spam submittals blocked by your ISP?
Emailed Spam Submissions Disappearing? No Confirmation e-mails?
What is Quick Reporting?
How can I unsend a Report?
"Header incomplete, aborting." and "No source IP address found, cannot
proceed."
Causes of "Would send" and "If reported today, reports would be sent to:"
messages
SpamCop said "No reports filed." What does it mean?
Member and account management questions
Why was my authorization revoked?
Is there a limit on reporting spam?
-----> 3,000 per day
-----> not older than 48 hours
Why did my spam load increase after I started Reporting?
What is mole reporting?
How do I set up SpamAssassin to work with SpamCop?
NEW Can I automatically forward spam from my spamtraps?
SpamCop Email System & Accounts
What is this SpamCop Mail Service?
What is the cost?
How do I sign up?
How do I setup my account?
SpamCop E-Mail Account Storage Quota / Limit
I can report and trash but not Delete from Held Folder
Jeff G.'s Guide to accessing SpamCop email using OE and IMAP
How do I sign up for multiple accounts under the family plan?
Discounted Additional Account, more detail
When does my account expire?
How do I renew my account?
I forgot my Password
How I use my SpamCop E-Mail account examples
Blocking and Blackhole lists available
How To Stop Filtering With The SCBL, for SpamCop Email System Customers
FAQ about the Personal Blacklist and Whitelist
FAQ about POP'ing out of SpamCop
Email System "POP Configuration" Setup
FAQ about WebMail
FAQ about Webmail: Deleting and Moving Messages
WebMail Login problems & General Slowness, First things to check
FAQ about IMAP
IMAP - Deleting E-Mail
How to save Sent Mail in SpamCop Webmail
FAQ about Filtering and Held Mail
FAQ about the personal webmail filters, Client filters within webmail
Messages not Filtered - Why?
Jeff G.'s Guide to SpamCop Quick Reporting from a SpamCop E-Mail Account
Does SpamCop work with AOL/MSN/Hotmail?
I want email to go from myaccount@myemail.com and back to the same account.
Is this possible?
When does my account expire?
Where can I get further assistance?
Why can't I receive any email?
Getting Mail From The SpamCop Email System
IMP/Horde FAQ
SpamCop Blocking List Service
How do I configure my mailserver to reject mail based on the blocklist?
What is on the list?
How can I be de-listed
One-time automatic BL De-listing
How much does it cost?
Is it possible to download the entire blocklist?
How can I check if an IP is on the list?
If my IP is listed, does it mean I am a spammer or my ISP hosts spammers?
Why can't I get to the blocking list from ATT's network?
General Information about SpamCop
How can I get help? How can I report a bug? How can I suggest a feature?
What are the rules for posting to the forum?
May I create a link to SpamCop from my site?
Can I get a copy of the source code for SpamCop?
Who is Julian Haight?
Why did I get a spam promoting SpamCop?
What are some general tips for responding to questions in the forum?
Adding items to the FAQ
Features and Bugs
Use the parser without reference to your mailhosts configuration
Non-SpamCop information
Make an anonymous donation to support SpamCop
Can I advertise on SpamCop?
Help for abuse-desks and administrators
These are questions commonly asked by Internet Service Providers. Users of
SpamCop need not read this (skip on down a few sections), but may find it
interesting. You have probably arrived here because of a SpamCop report.
Please read the introduction for information about the report you are
viewing.
Introduction - What is this thing? How does it work?
I have been falsely and/or maliciously accused of spamming, what can I do?
How can I contact a real person about this?
Interacting with SpamCop and it's users:
You are mailbombing me! How can I make it stop?
How can I get SpamCop reports about my network?
How do I register an abuse@ email address?
How can I get removed from SpamCop's blocking system?
Once I close a spammer's account, how can I prevent others reporting it?
How can I respond to spam complaints via email?
How can I control what type of reports I receive?
You've munged the header...
How do I get in touch with the person who filed the complaint?
Help with SpamCop reports and spam in general
Robots: Mailing lists and autoresponders
I didn't originate the spam. My server might have relayed this message. Why
report it to me?
What does a SpamCop Report look like?
Why did SpamCop report this usenet message to me?
General questions:
Who appointed you the "cop" of the internet? Where do you get off?
My web site got terminated/threatened because of SpamCop, but I did not send
the spam. What's the big idea?
Why did SpamCop submit my server to relay-testing sites?
What is your opinion of FFA (free for all) pages?
How do Deputies respond to appeals?
Abuse-queue management tools
Assistance stopping spam:
I'm receiving spam reports, but my mail server logs don't reflect it. Why?
HTTP Proxies (Cisco / Squid / Mailtraq)
Formmail
Open Relay Servers
Adding BLs to Postfix
Spam-sending malware
But my Exchange 2000 server is secured against relaying!
How can I control spam from my network?
How can I control unsolicited bounces?
SOCKS Proxy Servers
Links to help with removing open proxies
Other information, help and links
What other sites should I visit to help fight spam?
CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 - Bill Number S.877 for the 108th U.S. Congress
Abuse.net's introduction to spam: What is it and why is it bad?
Elsop's anti-spam page - lots of other links to more information
U.S. FTC Spam page for the Consumer
spam uce.gov replaces uce ftc.gov
SamSpade - tools for the unix-deprived and other good info
Bestprac.com - A guide for all types of users on how to avoid spamming
abuse.net - ISP abuse address clearinghouse
Realtime blackhole list - blocking of selected email servers
Spamhaus - Lists ISPs who keep organized spamming alive
Spam Links - Many Resources, Definitions, and Tools
The SpamCon Foundation (formerly suespammers.org)
The author of this software, Julian Haight
Net abuse jargon file - Cues for the acronym challenged
Net abuse FAQ - all about spam
An organization to fight "street spam" - those unsightly weight loss signs
on the highway.
Reading Email Headers.
Sneakemail is a service that gives you more control over the emails you
receive.
SpamList is a config file for sendmail which agressively blocks spam. Use
with caution.
SPEWS is not SpamCop, SpamCop is not SPEWS - Note the spelling
SpamWars, a humorous kill-the-spammer browser-based game
Monitoring and reporting worm/hacking activity
Marjolein's Ban Spam page
The Crystal Cave - News, Tools, Resources to combat Spam
Surf the Internet Safely
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center
Inside Outlook Express
Anti-Phishing Working Group
U.S.DoJ Identity Theft and Fraud Information
Follow the Money; or, why does my computer keep getting infested with
spyware?
Phone number spam
Recursos anti-spam en español
Campaña anti-spam de El Espectador (Uruguay)
Información básica acerca del 'spam'
Credit and thanks
Noting that the above link is Julian's credit / contributor list for the
stuff found at spamcop.net and JT's newsgroup and e-mail support. What
follows is my list of credit for the web-based Forum stuff .... for
starters, the contributors to this existing FAQ (not sure I've got a 100%
identity list, don't have permission to use real names, and will probably
add more items into this FAQ and forget to update this list .. apologies in
advance for missing the kudos and correct attributions) ... and just to keep
things a bit off-kilter, in reverse alphabetical order;
WB8TYW
turetzsr (who does request to be known as Steve T)
studog
StevenUnderwood
petzl
PeterJ
Miss Betsy
Merlyn
JeffG
dbiel
DavidT
agsteele
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Mon Apr 25 13:42:40 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz)
Date: Mon Apr 25 05:45:30 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Fixed
References:
Message-ID:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1
I saw a new message from another source, same scam. It was in held
mail.
So, I guess it means as "fixed", well at least for me
Ilgaz Ocal
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From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Apr 25 15:15:18 2005
From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Glenn Daniels)
Date: Mon Apr 25 14:20:04 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Re: Citizen bank (new?) $5 phishing passed spamcop (all RBL on)
References:
Message-ID:
"Ilgaz" wrote in message
> Hi,
>
> Pasting below, Eudora pro alerts me fine about Phishing, have no clue
> about that bank but maybe popular there in USA, so crossposting to
> spamcop.mail.
>
> I better warn: WARNING, MAIL PASTED BELOW IS A PHISHING ATTEMPT, NOT A
> REAL BANK MAIL!
>
> Have a nice day
>
> Ilgaz
>
--- snippage ---
Ilgaz:
Actually, there was a phish out last year that actually did
point to domain citlzensbank.com. That site has long since
been taken down.
What is now there is an advert for a domain name
registrar service.
This is not a Phish site:
href="http://www.citlzensbank.com/Survey/Secure/index.asp">http://www.citize
nsbankonline.com/logon/securesurvey.asp
but the spam is a spoof of a Phish, which lends credibility
to the belief some have that spammers really do eat their
offspring.
I am thinking that someone at citizensbank.com might be
interested to know that their graphics have been abused
in a spamitem. The spamsender may or may not have had
permission to link to their graphics in criminal spamitems
being transmitted on the internet. The domain registering
service may or may not have a "pink contract" with the
spamsender, and may or may not have acquired
permissions from citizensbank.com to use their trademark
logos in a criminal spamitem.
Is it OK by you to report your spamitem to the abuse desk
for citizensbank.com and let their people address these
issues with the owner of the allegedly spamvending website?
Glenn
From SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com Mon Apr 25 17:23:15 2005
From: SCNews.5.myspamgobbler at spamgourmet.com (Brian (SnSR))
Date: Mon Apr 25 19:31:41 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Re: Citizen bank (new?) $5 phishing passed spamcop (all RBL on)
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Glenn Daniels wrote:
> "Ilgaz" wrote in message
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Pasting below, Eudora pro alerts me fine about Phishing, have no clue
>>about that bank but maybe popular there in USA, so crossposting to
>>spamcop.mail.
>>
>>I better warn: WARNING, MAIL PASTED BELOW IS A PHISHING ATTEMPT, NOT A
>>REAL BANK MAIL!
>>
>>Have a nice day
>>
>>Ilgaz
>>
>
>
> --- snippage ---
>
> Ilgaz:
>
> Actually, there was a phish out last year that actually did
> point to domain citlzensbank.com. That site has long since
> been taken down.
>
> What is now there is an advert for a domain name
> registrar service.
>
> This is not a Phish site:
> href="http://www.citlzensbank.com/Survey/Secure/index.asp">http://www.citize
> nsbankonline.com/logon/securesurvey.asp
>
> but the spam is a spoof of a Phish, which lends credibility
> to the belief some have that spammers really do eat their
> offspring.
>
This was a working phish site yesterday. Godaddy has supposedly nuked
the site according to someone on another list, but I'm not totally
certain of this yet.
> I am thinking that someone at citizensbank.com might be
> interested to know that their graphics have been abused
> in a spamitem. The spamsender may or may not have had
> permission to link to their graphics in criminal spamitems
> being transmitted on the internet. The domain registering
> service may or may not have a "pink contract" with the
> spamsender, and may or may not have acquired
> permissions from citizensbank.com to use their trademark
> logos in a criminal spamitem.
>
> Is it OK by you to report your spamitem to the abuse desk
> for citizensbank.com and let their people address these
> issues with the owner of the allegedly spamvending website?
>
> Glenn
>
>
From 79ytka802 at sneakemail.com Fri Apr 29 10:00:08 2005
From: 79ytka802 at sneakemail.com (Aviatrix)
Date: Fri Apr 29 04:00:38 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: 123STORE.BIZ, 1SECURESTORE.INFO,
123SECURESTORE.COM, SALEZSITE.INFO spammer
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Only just noticed this, don't go here very often...:
Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
> Is there a special advantage of .info domain to spammers? Trivial, just
> wondering...
Yes. The .info registry (Afilias) was running a special "free give-away"
campaign last year. "Register your .info domain now and get it entirely
FREE for the first year". Spammers were having a field day...
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Fri Apr 29 12:41:30 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz)
Date: Fri Apr 29 04:46:28 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Re: 123STORE.BIZ, 1SECURESTORE.INFO, 123SECURESTORE.COM,
SALEZSITE.INFO spammer
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On 2005-04-29 11:00:08 +0300, Aviatrix <79ytka802@sneakemail.com> said:
> Only just noticed this, don't go here very often...:
>
> Ilgaz Ocal wrote:
>
>> Is there a special advantage of .info domain to spammers? Trivial, just
>> wondering...
>
> Yes. The .info registry (Afilias) was running a special "free
> give-away" campaign last year. "Register your .info domain now and get
> it entirely FREE for the first year". Spammers were having a field
> day...
Couldn't imagine a more idiotic (my english not enough) campaign. I
can'T imagine how many people filtered .info domain directly, even
newbies.
Thanks... A good domain name wasted. I may end up with ilgaz.nom.tr ,
our new cool domain name :)
Ilgaz
From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Sat Apr 30 11:57:28 2005
From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz)
Date: Sat Apr 30 04:00:05 2005
Subject: [SpamCop-Mail]
Re: Citizen bank (new?) $5 phishing passed spamcop (all RBL on)
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On 2005-04-25 21:15:18 +0300, "Glenn Daniels"
said:
> "Ilgaz" wrote in message
>> Hi,
>>
>> Pasting below, Eudora pro alerts me fine about Phishing, have no clue
>> about that bank but maybe popular there in USA, so crossposting to
>> spamcop.mail.
>>
>> I better warn: WARNING, MAIL PASTED BELOW IS A PHISHING ATTEMPT, NOT A
>> REAL BANK MAIL!
>>
>> Have a nice day
>>
>> Ilgaz
>>
>
> --- snippage ---
>
> Ilgaz:
>
> Actually, there was a phish out last year that actually did
> point to domain citlzensbank.com. That site has long since
> been taken down.
>
> What is now there is an advert for a domain name
> registrar service.
>
> This is not a Phish site:
> href="http://www.citlzensbank.com/Survey/Secure/index.asp">http://www.citize
> nsbankonline.com/logon/securesurvey.asp
>
> but the spam is a spoof of a Phish, which lends credibility
> to the belief some have that spammers really do eat their
> offspring.
>
> I am thinking that someone at citizensbank.com might be
> interested to know that their graphics have been abused
> in a spamitem. The spamsender may or may not have had
> permission to link to their graphics in criminal spamitems
> being transmitted on the internet. The domain registering
> service may or may not have a "pink contract" with the
> spamsender, and may or may not have acquired
> permissions from citizensbank.com to use their trademark
> logos in a criminal spamitem.
>
> Is it OK by you to report your spamitem to the abuse desk
> for citizensbank.com and let their people address these
> issues with the owner of the allegedly spamvending website?
>
> Glenn
Hi,
Would I miss the chance of reporting evil to satan himself? ;)
Just like I never miss the chance on spams mentioning Microsoft products.
BTW, sorry for late reply, I actually saw the legit mail you mention. I
remember I said "now this is clever"
Ilgaz Ocal