From eddie at eddie.web Fri May 6 12:50:51 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Fri May 6 11:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] is this board alive? Message-ID: or not? -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From MikeE at ster.invalid Fri May 6 10:20:30 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Fri May 6 12:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: eddie wrote: > or not? There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From jeffg at spamcop.net Fri May 6 13:21:35 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Fri May 6 12:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > eddie wrote: >> or not? > > There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group, or List only. From Kilgallen at SpamCop.net Fri May 6 12:41:02 2005 From: Kilgallen at SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Date: Fri May 6 12:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: In article , "Jeff G." writes: > Mike Easter wrote: >> eddie wrote: >>> or not? >> >> There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. > > However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. There was a post on April 30, although like most post here it was off-topic. From jeffg at spamcop.net Fri May 6 15:16:22 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Fri May 6 14:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: Larry Kilgallen wrote: > In article , "Jeff G." > writes: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> eddie wrote: >>>> or not? >>> >>> There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. >> >> However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. > > There was a post on April 30, although like most post here it was > off-topic. Sorry, I was counting posts different from replies. It was still a week without post or reply. -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group, or List only. From jeffg at spamcop.net Fri May 6 15:26:02 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Fri May 6 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: Jeff G. wrote: > Larry Kilgallen wrote: >> In article , "Jeff G." >> writes: >>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>> eddie wrote: >>>>> or not? >>>> >>>> There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. >>> >>> However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. >> >> There was a post on April 30, although like most post here it was >> off-topic. > > Sorry, I was counting posts different from replies. It was still a > week without post or reply. In contrast, the SpamCop Email System & Accounts Forum at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showforum=4 has had 772 Topics (posts) and 4268 Replies in the past ~465 days since its first Topic on 25th January 2004, an average of 1.7 Topics/day and 9.2 Replies/day. -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group, or List only. From eddie at eddie.web Fri May 6 16:37:56 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Fri May 6 15:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: On Fri, 06 May 2005 11:50:51 -0400, eddie scratched out the following: > or not? I thought it was my newsreader. but obviously it's just a lack of complaints or whatever. I did discover, however, that I couldn't cancel this message. Pam gave me an error that it couldn't find the original post in the sent folder, although it was clearly there. Still, I see that the board is alive. -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From MikeE at ster.invalid Fri May 6 13:52:15 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Fri May 6 15:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: Jeff G. wrote: >>> "Jeff G." >>>> Mike Easter wrote: >>>>> There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. >>>> >>>> However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. > In contrast, the SpamCop Email System & Accounts Forum at > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showforum=4 has had 772 > Topics (posts) and 4268 Replies in the past ~465 days since its first > Topic on 25th January 2004, an average of 1.7 Topics/day and 9.2 > Replies/day. That's partly because this is a stealth or ghost or hidden newsgroup, hidden from public view so that you have to have a secret passkey to get in. There are no links to it anywhere, including the page that you can dig down into to find the nntp groups. The faq pages point only to the forum; the nntp pages don't include .help or .mail and there are periodic 'forays' into the secret nntp groups to drag participants to the webforum kicking and screaming whether they want to go or not. http://www.spamcop.net/sitemap.shtml Help Help Overview, site-search FAQ home (frequently asked questions) Report spam Use SpamCop email accounts Use Mailhosts verification Receive SpamCop reports Use SpamCop blocking list Forums General discussion Email discussion Mailhosts system discussion NNTP (usenet style) Newsgroups http://www.spamcop.net/help.shtml#nntp Newsgroups SpamCop (spamcop) General Discussion of spam and SpamCop. NNTP WebTV Geek talk (spamcop.geeks) Geeky issues not related to spam or SpamCop. NNTP WebTV Social room (spamcop.social) Anything that doesn't fit in the other groups. NNTP WebTV Spam lab (spamcop.spam) Posting and discussion of specific spam - often contains de-obfuscation 'workshops'. NNTP WebTV -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri May 6 23:06:11 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Fri May 6 23:10:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Spamvertized URL resolving issue - Someone from SpamCop responds Message-ID: For those of you that have been asking for input from "Someone from SpamCop" ... here's your response. The Forum FAQ http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238 Contains an entry titled; New! SpamCop reporting of spamvertized sites - some philosophy Which links to an entry that includes commentary from myself, Mike Easter, Don (and by extension, Ellen) http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4085 and for those not happy with the HTML version, a LoFi view http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t4085.html From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun May 8 14:32:45 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Sun May 8 14:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d5ghpn$3n6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > That's partly because this is a stealth or ghost or hidden newsgroup, > hidden from public view so that you have to have a secret passkey to get > in. > > There are no links to it anywhere, including the page that you can dig > down into to find the nntp groups. The faq pages point only to the > forum; the nntp pages don't include .help or .mail and there are > periodic 'forays' into the secret nntp groups to drag participants to > the webforum kicking and screaming whether they want to go or not. Take a (fresh) look at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/ I may change it around a bit more, but ...??? It's been over a year since JT made his declaration, so not sure why there's all the aggravation. For the 'average' user, your described "secret nntp groups" should now be visible (even to the point of confusing some folks over which group does what ...) From MikeE at ster.invalid Sun May 8 13:32:23 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sun May 8 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: WazoO wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> That's partly because this is a stealth or ghost or hidden newsgroup, >> hidden from public view so that you have to have a secret passkey to >> get in. > Take a (fresh) look at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/ > I may change it around a bit more, but ...??? That link is the front page to the forums, which contains 27252 posts in 11 subforums -- was there something specific in one of its parts you wanted me to look at? Oh, wait. Maybe you are talking about the very top section: SPAMCOP HOME ? ORIGINAL FAQ ? FORUM FAQ ? SPAMCOP NEWSGROUPS in which the newsgroups one is a link to news://news.spamcop.net/ Or, did you mean something else? > It's been over a year since JT made his declaration, so > not sure why there's all the aggravation. For the > 'average' user, your described "secret nntp groups" > should now be visible (even to the point of confusing > some folks over which group does what ...) IMO, JT's 'declaration' could've been that it was his intention to only personally do any of his posting to the forum. The business of removing any reference on this page http://www.spamcop.net/help.shtml in the section Newsgroups is what makes the newsgroups .help and .mail into stealth newsgroups. There's nothing wrong with having .routing and .test and control and control.cancel be stealthed, but stealthing .help and mail isn't understandable to me. Just because JT would rather only attend the forum doesn't mean that everyone else should only attend the forum. It is one thing to 'believe' that the forums' existence would or should stamp out the need for nntp newsgroups, but structuring things so as to make it a self-fulfilling prophesy seems self-centered or something. Maybe I just don't understand the thinking correctly. I understand that the forum has advantages. I also understand that the nntp interaction has advantages. Maybe that's the part that JT doesn't understand or agree with or something. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun May 8 19:30:14 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Sun May 8 19:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:d5lpce$m4f$1@news.spamcop.net... > WazoO wrote: > > "Mike Easter" > > > Take a (fresh) look at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/ > > I may change it around a bit more, but ...??? > > Oh, wait. Maybe you are talking about the very top section: > > SPAMCOP HOME · ORIGINAL FAQ · FORUM FAQ · SPAMCOP NEWSGROUPS > in which the newsgroups one is a link to news://news.spamcop.net/ > Or, did you mean something else? Still tinkering ... But yes, that was the item of note > > It's been over a year since JT made his declaration, so > > not sure why there's all the aggravation. For the > > IMO, JT's 'declaration' could've been that it was his intention to only > personally do any of his posting to the forum. The business of removing It all starts back with http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-list/2004-January/071447.html Not sure why you'd want to start that battle all over again. From MikeE at ster.invalid Sun May 8 18:45:34 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sun May 8 20:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: WazoO wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> IMO, JT's 'declaration' could've been that it was his intention to >> only personally do any of his posting to the forum. The business of >> removing > > It all starts back with > http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-list/2004-January/071447.html > Not sure why you'd want to start that battle all over again. Start? I didn't start. I'm just a participant in this thread. Someone started a thread because of this group's inactivity, I said people lurk and post, Jeff G. sed it was a dead group re activity whereas the forum had a lot more activity and I 'splained that was because these groups had become stealthed. I didn't start anything. I lurked and when someone started a conversation I joined in and discussed. There's nothing about the link you posted that would justify 'hiding' the .help and .mail ng/s from view on the web pages. It strikes me as strange that the web pages often suffer so severely from not getting updated; but if there's an 'agenda' then some change becomes very important and /then/ the faq gets some special type of updating. IMO, the faq should have never been changed in a way to conceal the .help and .mail ng/s. I think the kinds of 'forces' of support should only be positive forces, not negative ones. I think every positive effort should be made to help the forum be 'strong' -- such as your ability to do things there. I don't think /anything/ should be done negatively to weaken some other area, such as the ng/s. I realize that the original 'intention' was to /replace/ the ng/s with the forum, but that thinking wasn't the best thinking. The best thinking is to make the forum strong and to do nothing to weaken the ng/s. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon May 9 15:20:18 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Mon May 9 15:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-B860D4.10423009052005@frylock.local... > > Well, the software they are using for the forum sucks, IMO. Check out > to see forums done in a way that doesn't > totally alienate people used to NNTP. Other than putting a border around each post, I'm not quite seeing the major difference ...???? I didn't register, so not logged in .. perhaps there's a different "view" possible? Thinking that you might be suggesting something like http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4062&mode=threaded From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon May 9 15:46:25 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Mon May 9 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-20C683.15381009052005@frylock.local... > > Oh god no, that is ugly. I was referring to the light bulb icons by > the forums with new posts on the main screen. When you go to the > particular forum you are interested the icons clearly show which threads > have new messages, which ones you have posted in, and you can easily > mark a thread/forum as read. You do have to be registered for these > features to be useful. The IPB Forum app does the same thing with the blue icons ... dark when new content exists, light blue when all read, clicking on that icon sets the flag (and marks existing content) as "read" ....???? Registered, logged in, and cookies used ... actually not sure that the first two are actually required now that you/I bring that up ... I seem to recall that even as a Guest, one can tick the icon ... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon May 9 17:37:02 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Mon May 9 17:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-82A651.15422809052005@frylock.local... > > I see now that these are available in the spamcop forums. I guess it > shows you that I haven't logged in for quite some time. The only > remaining problem with this feature is that locked and moved topics do > not clearly indicate whether or not there are new messages in them. OK, after my last post here, checked, and yes, it appears you have to be logged in to see the changes in the Read/Unread icons. The "locked" / closed items ... technically, shouldn't normally have 'new' content (although Admin/Moderators 'can' add more posts to them .. (just not normally done) .. so once read, they should stay 'read' ... "Moved" for the most part is a temporary thing ... I'll usually wait until the original poster adds something to the new location .. at that point, the "Moved" link gets whacked .. admit that this is a "when I see it" thing .. Point being that if the "Moved" item was of interest, one would have followed / seen the current Topic/Discussion when hitting that other Forum, either following the link or manually navigation. Coming back a while later, generally, you won't see the "Moved" item in the Topic list ... The only specific item that this may be a real issue with is the Pinned pointers to the FAQ, but (as stated previously here) I've made some changes to the layout and placed those links at the top of the displayed page ... when I update the Forum FAQ, it's just an edit of the existing document, so none of the pointers actually change data ...but I also have a "last updated" line at the top of that entry that goes along with the "never complete, always be updated" description .... (but, "we" all have been surprised at the changes made to the www.spamcop.net FAQ with no announcement ) Again, I'm not trying to force/drag/push anyone 'over there' just doing what I can to make sure that folks do get some support .. and as far as the SpamCop e-mail accounts go, that's the place at the moment .. not my doing ... I don't even have one, just a free-report only type of account From Ilgaz at spamcop.net Tue May 10 02:16:03 2005 From: Ilgaz at spamcop.net (Ilgaz) Date: Mon May 9 18:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: On 2005-05-06 22:52:15 +0300, "Mike Easter" said: > Jeff G. wrote: > >>>> "Jeff G." >>>>> Mike Easter wrote: > >>>>>> There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. >>>>> >>>>> However, nobody posted for 12 days until eddie showed up. > >> In contrast, the SpamCop Email System & Accounts Forum at >> http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showforum=4 has had 772 >> Topics (posts) and 4268 Replies in the past ~465 days since its first >> Topic on 25th January 2004, an average of 1.7 Topics/day and 9.2 >> Replies/day. > > That's partly because this is a stealth or ghost or hidden newsgroup, > hidden from public view so that you have to have a secret passkey to get > in. > > There are no links to it anywhere, including the page that you can dig > down into to find the nntp groups. The faq pages point only to the > forum; the nntp pages don't include .help or .mail and there are > periodic 'forays' into the secret nntp groups to drag participants to > the webforum kicking and screaming whether they want to go or not. > > http://www.spamcop.net/sitemap.shtml > Help > > NNTP (usenet style) Newsgroups > > http://www.spamcop.net/help.shtml#nntp > Newsgroups > SpamCop (spamcop) General Discussion of spam and SpamCop. NNTP WebTV > Geek talk (spamcop.geeks) Geeky issues not related to spam or SpamCop. > NNTP WebTV > Social room (spamcop.social) Anything that doesn't fit in the other > groups. NNTP WebTV > Spam lab (spamcop.spam) Posting and discussion of specific spam - > often contains de-obfuscation 'workshops'. NNTP WebTV I kinda understand why its hidden and I hope its stays that way. At forums, Wazoo got great control, countermeasures etc but its a real pain to get rid of lamers on a NNTP server. Needs lots of time I mean. My only need of help is that 7650 bugging window every time I check my IMAP mail (root cert. not installed) and I kinda figured its nothing I can do about it. Spoke some Symbian vendors, they told me why :) Can tell you as simple as.. Equifax needs to pay huge money to Symbian and become trusted vendor. Hire some Symbian coders knowing the .sis structure, submit the stuff to Nokia for review (Euros floating btw) and user will install that Sis file if he/she cares. So, I learned to live with that nag :) In fact, waiting for "Eudora2Go" to ship for general mobiles. e.g. Europe etc. Ilgaz Ocal From smcgarrett at hawaii.com Tue May 10 21:00:13 2005 From: smcgarrett at hawaii.com (Steve McGarrett) Date: Tue May 10 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > Well, the software they are using for the forum sucks, IMO. Check out > to see forums done in a way that doesn't > totally alienate people used to NNTP. OK, how do I get at it with my newsreader? Aloha, McGarrett "LART 'em, Danno!" From smcgarrett at hawaii.com Tue May 10 21:00:38 2005 From: smcgarrett at hawaii.com (Steve McGarrett) Date: Tue May 10 21:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: WazoO wrote: > Not sure why you'd want to start that battle all over again. Because, as my great-grandaddy used to say about The War Between The States, the wrong side won? ]8-O Aloha, McGarrett "LART 'em, Danno!" From eddie at eddie.web Tue May 10 23:53:05 2005 From: eddie at eddie.web (eddie) Date: Tue May 10 22:55:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:00:38 -0500, Steve McGarrett scratched out the following: > WazoO wrote: >> Not sure why you'd want to start that battle all over again. > > Because, as my great-grandaddy used to say about The War Between The > States, the wrong side won? ]8-O > > Aloha, > McGarrett > "LART 'em, Danno!" Which side finally won, East or West? I forget :) -- Once movie theaters gave out steak knives Today they confiscate them From smcgarrett at hawaii.com Wed May 11 00:51:43 2005 From: smcgarrett at hawaii.com (Steve McGarrett) Date: Wed May 11 00:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: eddie wrote: > On Tue, 10 May 2005 20:00:38 -0500, Steve McGarrett scratched out the > following: > . . . >>Because, as my great-grandaddy used to say about The War Between The >>States, the wrong side won? ]8-O > > Which side finally won, East or West? I forget :) #_(~%#& kids! Don't know any history and think everything should be done in a web browser! :-) The answer: Depends on who you read. Foote, the old historian: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0394749138 McPherson, the revisionist historian: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/019516895X Turtledove, the alternate historian: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345406141 1862 "Hey, Lieutenant, you dropped these here cigars." Turtledove, the just plain weird: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345384687 1864 General Lee: "What do you call that fancy carbine, Mr. Rhoodie?" Rhoodie: "An AK-47, sir." Of course, young-uns intimidated by books can just rent the DVDs. Burns, the award-winning filmmaker: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002KPI2S Aloha, McGarrett "LART 'em, Danno!" From johnl at spamcop.net Wed May 11 05:54:56 2005 From: johnl at spamcop.net (JohnL) Date: Wed May 11 00:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? References: Message-ID: Steve McGarrett wrote in news:d5s30v$52d$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Aloha, > McGarrett > "LART 'em, Danno!" Actually "The DOG" is meaner. (and yes, I do remember "5-0") From nobody at spamcop.net Tue May 17 03:57:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Aaron Lawrence) Date: Mon May 16 11:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Webmail performance with keepalive/HTTP 1.0 Message-ID: Hello guys, Using Mozilla, I've found that if you enable keepalive with HTTP 1.0 then Spamcop webmail performs really poorly. For example, taking 20 seconds to open a blank Compose message window. If you are using keepalive+http1.1 thats fine. Or http1.0 without keepalive, also fine. Noted more as a curiousity than anything else.. [Connection is DSL, 2Mbit] -- aaronl at consultant dot com For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke From nospam at nospam.nl Fri May 20 15:15:51 2005 From: nospam at nospam.nl (geo_splash_12) Date: Fri May 20 08:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: is this board alive? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > eddie wrote: > >>or not? > > > There are both lurkers and posters around here I say. > Including the Dutch German and Irish. From user at example.net Tue May 24 12:52:51 2005 From: user at example.net (John Smith) Date: Tue May 24 11:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Why is Hotmail's IP blacklisted Message-ID: Somehow Hotmail's IP (65.54.175.200) is in SpamCop's RBL list. Can somebody remove it please From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue May 24 11:19:44 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue May 24 13:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Why is Hotmail's IP blacklisted References: Message-ID: John Smith wrote: > Somehow Hotmail's IP (65.54.175.200) is in SpamCop's RBL list. Can > somebody remove it please It looks like it has been hitting spamtraps and getting reported by reporters. It is due to come off in 8 hours. I think deputies only remove servers from the SCbl if the listing is an error. That is, I think they can 'unreport' a /mistaken/ report. If the reports aren't a mistake and a server 'needs' to be on the list, then it should be on the list, whether it is a hotmail server, an aol server, or whatever. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From Kilgallen at SpamCop.net Tue May 24 13:32:20 2005 From: Kilgallen at SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Date: Tue May 24 13:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Why is Hotmail's IP blacklisted References: Message-ID: In article , John Smith writes: > Somehow Hotmail's IP (65.54.175.200) is in SpamCop's RBL list. Can > somebody remove it please 1. This has nothing at all to do with the SpamCop Filtering/Webmail service. Discussion should be posted in the general SpamCop newsgroup. 2. When you repost it in the proper place, you should explain why Hotmail deserves the right to send spam. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue May 24 15:07:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Tue May 24 14:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Why is Hotmail's IP blacklisted References: Message-ID: "John Smith" wrote in message news:d6viku$l1q$1@news.spamcop.net... > Somehow Hotmail's IP (65.54.175.200) is in SpamCop's RBL list. Can > somebody remove it please There is no header in the IPs beyond the one that is listed and there is spam being sent to our traps and users. Ellen SpamCop From kenbrody at spamcop.net Tue May 24 12:59:54 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Tue May 24 15:30:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Why is Hotmail's IP blacklisted References: Message-ID: <42934F7A.BC1B8C73@spamcop.net> John Smith wrote: > > Somehow Hotmail's IP (65.54.175.200) is in SpamCop's RBL list. Can > somebody remove it please It's listed because it has been sending spam. To see more details, check out . Note in particular: System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided by SpamCop) and In the past 83.7 days, it has been listed 23 times for a total of 20.9 days -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at spamcop.net Fri May 27 22:23:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (StampOutSpam) Date: Fri May 27 17:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Keyword search and replace Message-ID: Does SpamCop Mail have keyword filters that can, for example, separate all messages with "Springfield" into another folder? Also, can the munging remove other keyword strings like phone numbers and residential addresses? From jeffg at spamcop.net Fri May 27 18:41:19 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Fri May 27 17:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Keyword search and replace References: Message-ID: StampOutSpam wrote: > Does SpamCop Mail have keyword filters that can, for example, > separate all messages with "Springfield" into another folder? Yes, it does, but they are only activated when you use Webmail. > Also, > can the munging remove other keyword strings like phone numbers and > residential addresses? No, sorry, it can't. -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group, or List only. From nobody at spamcop.net Sun May 29 18:43:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Aaron Lawrence) Date: Sun May 29 01:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] "Held mail" mail is incomplete and confusing Message-ID: Hello chaps, I have spamcop mail send me a mail weekly with the held mail list. This mail is supposed to be a summary list of the held mail file. I just noticed that it is actually missing about half of the emails in my held mail folder. Here is a snippet of the mail: From: "Xrs.French@netzero.net" Subject: Pre-approved Application #0467768140U Thu, 26 May 2005 05:41:02 -0800 ------------- Binary file /home/spamcop-net/aaronlawrence/.Held Mail/new/1117221439.8041510056.blade2 matches ------------- Binary file /home/spamcop-net/aaronlawrence/.Held Mail/new/1117179722.9393428385.blade1 matches ------------- etc etc. Real mails interspersed with these "binary file ... matches" messages. There are 14 real mails in my latest list, and 22 "binary file matches", and my held mail folder actually contains 37 mails. I would appreciate having this fixed as the mail is pretty useless if it doesn't show the real email details. Thanks4 -- aaronl at consultant dot com For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sun May 29 02:14:25 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Sun May 29 02:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: "Held mail" mail is incomplete and confusing References: Message-ID: "Aaron Lawrence" wrote in message news:MPG.1d040f8f8f06734e9896c2@news.spamcop.net... > > I have spamcop mail send me a mail weekly with the held mail list. This > mail is supposed to be a summary list of the held mail file. I just > noticed that it is actually missing about half of the emails in my held > mail folder. > Copied your post here and merged it into an existing Topic/Discussion in the Forum ... you are only the second person known to have this issue thus far ... http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4132 From nobody at spamcop.net Sun May 29 22:14:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Aaron Lawrence) Date: Sun May 29 05:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: "Held mail" mail is incomplete and confusing References: Message-ID: Suddenly, WazoO sprang forth and uttered these pithy words: > "Aaron Lawrence" wrote in message > news:MPG.1d040f8f8f06734e9896c2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I have spamcop mail send me a mail weekly with the held mail list. This > > mail is supposed to be a summary list of the held mail file. I just > > noticed that it is actually missing about half of the emails in my held > > mail folder. > > > Copied your post here and merged it into an existing > Topic/Discussion in the Forum ... you are only the > second person known to have this issue thus far ... > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4132 Thanks, Wazoo. Did you delete my other post from the forum? If so thanks... I was confused... -- aaronl at consultant dot com For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke From nobody at spamcop.net Mon May 30 01:59:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (StampOutSpam) Date: Sun May 29 21:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Keyword search and replace References: Message-ID: >> Does SpamCop Mail have keyword filters that can, for example, >> separate all messages with "Springfield" into another folder? > Yes, it does, but they are only activated when you use Webmail. Is Webmail like a normal Web-based interface where I can send and receive messages? Can the filters be set up to do: If Body or Subject contains Springfield, send to Name Or If Body or Subject contains Simpson, send to Name Or If Body or Subject contains Bank, send to Phish Or... and so on. If I could get a consolidated mail interface with filters like this, I'd sign up for SpamCop Mail. From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue May 31 12:11:56 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Tue May 31 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Keyword search and replace References: Message-ID: StampOutSpam wrote: >>> Does SpamCop Mail have keyword filters that can, for example, >>> separate all messages with "Springfield" into another folder? >> Yes, it does, but they are only activated when you use Webmail. > > Is Webmail like a normal Web-based interface where I can send and > receive messages? Can the filters be set up to do: > > If Body or Subject contains Springfield, send to Name > Or > If Body or Subject contains Simpson, send to Name > Or > If Body or Subject contains Bank, send to Phish > Or... and so on. > > If I could get a consolidated mail interface with filters like this, > I'd sign up for SpamCop Mail. Yes, but only if "Name" and "Phish" are names of mailboxes/Folders. It can't really "Forward" or "Redirect", it only has the following (woefully inadequate IMHO) disposition options for messages that match the Filters: "Deliver to my INBOX" (AKA Release, that is put in your INBOX or forward to your secret address (depending on what normally happens to non-spam messages); only useful for application to messages in other mailboxes/Folders, and then only with manual activation) "Deliver to mailbox:" (for any other mailbox/Folder) "Discard" (AKA Delete/Trash/Vanish) -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please reply via Forum, Group, or List only.