From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 15:25:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Tue Nov 1 15:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] 11/1/2005 Maint Window Message-ID: Maintenance Window Nov 1, 2005 During the period 14:00-18:00 -0800 we will have an outage of about 45 minutes for the installation of new hardware for the reporting system. Thank you for your patience. The email system will not affected by this maintenance window. Ellen SpamCop follow/ups to SpamCop Please propagate to the forums From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 17:56:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Maint Window completed Message-ID: The maintenance window scheduled for 11/1/2005 has been completed. Thanks! Ellen SpamCop follow/ups to SpamCop Please propagate to the forums From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 09:22:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Wed Nov 2 09:25:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] System outages/instability Message-ID: Morning folks -- yes we are having system problems and operations/engineering is working the issues. You may see failures trying to log-in or other error messages. Please do not try to change your password as this will not solve the problem. The problems will probably continue sporadically. There is no ETA right now for complete resolution but this is being treated by everyone as a priority 1 situation. Thank you for your patience! The email system is not affected. I suppose the good news is that there will still be shiney new spams to report after the problems are resolved -- and that is also the bad news .... Ellen SpamCop follow-ups to SpamCop Please propagate to the forums From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 09:16:43 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Spamcop occasionally leaving mail on server? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Once every couple weeks I'll see a few emails on my mailserver that have > been marked as read, but I never read them. Spamcop also never > downloads them...probably because they're already marked as read. Is it > normal for SC to mark a message as read yet not download it from time to > time? Bump? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 14:39:56 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 17:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] How to get Spamcop to download already read messages from my mailservers? Message-ID: Sometimes Spamcop leaves a message or two on my mailserver and marks them as read. Is there any way to get SC to download these messages? My mailserver's webmail app doesn't have a method for marking them as unread. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 15:42:59 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 18:45:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: How to get Spamcop to download already read messages from my mailservers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Is there any way to get SC to download these messages? My >>mailserver's webmail app doesn't have a method for marking them as unread. > > > Can you log in with IMAP to mark them as unread? Are you sure that > "Leave on Server" is not checked in the options page at: > > I'll be damned...I didn't know my mailserver had IMAP. Thanks! From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Fri Nov 4 23:05:40 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Nov 5 02:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: How to get Spamcop to download already read messages from my mailservers? References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dke79p$til$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I'll be damned...I didn't know my mailserver had IMAP. Thanks! LOL. I've been using IMAP since they unveiled the flat rate system :-) Works great here. From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Nov 5 00:01:30 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Nov 5 03:05:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: How to get Spamcop to download already read messages from my mailservers? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chris F. Willoughby "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dke79p$til$2@news.spamcop.net... > >>I'll be damned...I didn't know my mailserver had IMAP. Thanks! > > > LOL. > > I've been using IMAP since they unveiled the flat rate system :-) > > Works great here. Oh I knew that Spamcop had IMAP, I was referring to my own mailserver. :) From bar_n0ne at hotmail.com Tue Nov 8 14:46:48 2005 From: bar_n0ne at hotmail.com (Berny) Date: Tue Nov 8 05:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Which comes first: SpamAssassin or Blacklist? References: <436F6B2E.B4B4F020@spamcop.net> <43701260.7CC83DE@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Jim" wrote in message news:dkpv3e$pfj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > >> > >>> Which filter comes first: SpamAssassin or Blacklist? > >> That depends on your server's setup, > > > > Well, "my server" is SpamCop in this case. > > > Same here for server. I am a paid subscriber and I fetch my held Spam and it appears to be a > switch between SA and SC on how the Spam is tagged. > > Shouldn't this be asked in .mail? or the appropriate forum for mail users? Mostly what you will find here is speculation by non SC mail-account holders. This is also off topic here. f'ups to .mail From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Nov 9 17:23:19 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Wed Nov 9 18:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] SpamCop Forum is down Message-ID: It actually went down for a bit early this morning with some SQL errors showing ... then I couldn't even talk to the server. JT was notified, but said that it'd be a couple of hours before he could get anything done. Strangely, something happened and it was back on-line about 15 minutes later ...??? I got caught up, did some grocery shopping .. came back, caught up again, got around to making some coffee, poured a cup, and promptly fell asleep ... Jeff G. called to advise that there were some sever issues with the Forum .. killed off that 'exciting' game I'd fallen asleep playing, logged onto the Forum and found that the 'user' experience wasn't near as bad as the Admin issues. Anyway, I had stated that I had been becoming suspicious of a drive problem, looking at some system message log files, I'm convinced of that now ... kicked an e-mail to JT ... last thing seen on the forum server was; Broadcast message from root (console) (Wed Nov 9 17:26:10 2005): The system is going down for reboot NOW! and it has yet to come back up .. I still can't login in directly either ... so have to make an assumption that either an fsck is in operation at present or even that a hard drive replacement is under way (no response from JT yet) Just posting what I know, guessing at some other things, best I can do for now from here .... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Nov 9 19:35:15 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (WazoO) Date: Wed Nov 9 20:40:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Forum is up Was: Re: SpamCop Forum is down References: Message-ID: "WazoO" wrote in message news:dku0d7$d4g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Broadcast message from root (console) (Wed Nov 9 17:26:10 2005): > The system is going down for reboot NOW! > > and it has yet to come back up .. I still can't login in directly > either ... so have to make an assumption that either an > fsck is in operation at present or even that a hard drive > replacement is under way (no response from JT yet) > Just posting what I know, guessing at some other things, > best I can do for now from here .... Other than a bit of cryptic "working on it" message ... problem has been resolved. From jeffg at spamcop.net Sat Nov 12 08:48:27 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Sat Nov 12 09:21:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: SC been down for 2 hours References: Message-ID: "Jim" wrote in message news:dl4pgm$9t4$2@news.spamcop.net... > SpamCop been down for 2 hours Make that 3 hours now. You can track it with http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5247 QUOTE(SpamCopAdmin in http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5247 @ Nov 12 2005, 08:23 AM EST -0500) "At 06:20 Mountain Standard Time, SpamCop is completely down. I don't know what the problem is, but the pagers have been set off. Now we wait. - Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin -" Please note that only the SpamCop Parsing and Reporting Service is affected. The outage appears to have started around 05:55 EST -0500 (10:55 UTC -0000, 02:55 PST -0800). -- Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From jeffg at spamcop.net Sat Nov 12 09:18:45 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Sat Nov 12 09:21:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: SC been down for 2 hours References: Message-ID: "Jeff G." wrote in message news:dl4tei$cle$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Jim" wrote in message > news:dl4pgm$9t4$2@news.spamcop.net... > > SpamCop been down for 2 hours > > Make that 3 hours now. Sorry about the time on that post (gremlins took about 27min). -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From jeffg at spamcop.net Sat Nov 12 10:11:46 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Sat Nov 12 10:15:43 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: SC been down for 2 hours References: Message-ID: "Jeff G." wrote in message news:dl4tei$cle$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Jim" wrote in message > news:dl4pgm$9t4$2@news.spamcop.net... > > SpamCop been down for 2 hours > > Make that 3 hours now. You can track it with > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5247 It appears to have been back up since 09:40 EST -0500 (14:40 UTC -0000, 06:40 PST -0800, half an hour ago). -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From jeffg at spamcop.net Sat Nov 12 11:08:13 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Sat Nov 12 11:10:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: SC been down for 2 hours References: Message-ID: "Jeff G." wrote in message news:dl50nj$fh5$2@news.spamcop.net... > "Jeff G." wrote in message > news:dl4tei$cle$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Jim" wrote in message > > news:dl4pgm$9t4$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > SpamCop been down for 2 hours > > > > Make that 3 hours now. You can track it with > > http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5247 > > It appears to have been back up since 09:40 EST -0500 (14:40 UTC -0000, > 06:40 PST -0800, half an hour ago). [quote=SpamCopAdmin,Nov 12 2005, 10:55 AM EST -0500] "The system is back up now. There may be some email delays while the system works through the backlog of spam, but everything is working normally again. - Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin -" -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From blabla at bla.com Tue Nov 15 18:42:23 2005 From: blabla at bla.com (blabla@bla.com) Date: Tue Nov 15 12:50:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] what is the differents Message-ID: I have no idea what the differents is between paying and non paying users. I paid a couple of time, except for money, i still lose just as much time as when i paid. CAn anyone tell me the differents between the nag and non nag, because i canīt see it From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Nov 15 10:13:26 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 15 13:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: what is the differents References: Message-ID: Posted to spamcop.help & .mail. F/ups to .help blabla@bla.com wrote: Newsgroups: spamcop.mail Wrong newsgroup. See below^1. . > I have no idea what the differents is between paying and non paying > users. You are talking about paying and non-paying reporters in the spamcop mail discussion group. All spamcop mailusers pay for the service described at http://www.spamcop.net/ces/individuals.shtml SpamCop Email System for Individuals > I paid a couple of time, except for money, i still lose just > as much time as when i paid. > CAn anyone tell me the differents between the nag and non nag, > because i can?t see it The differences between being a paid reporter vs being a free reporter are that the paid reporter - gets rid of the nag wait for standard free reporting - can add additional notifies to a spamcop report - can 'appeal' to SC to 'please' notify a provider who wouldn't be - can access a db of your reports That is described here http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/288.html Upgrade to a premium member account The nag wait has a minimum, but it can be lengthened by busy-ness I think. The additional notifies and appeals are described here http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/126.html How should I select the recipients for my spam report? The cost of fuel which is consumed by paid reporting is $1/meg described at the first link. ^1 SC newsgroup purposes: spamcop and spamcop.help - discussions of spam and spamcop spamcop.mail - discussions of spamcop mail service spamcop.geeks - geekier discussions spamcop.social - social discussions spamcop.routing - discussions of routing database spamcop.spam - no discussion, raw spam and other only -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue Nov 15 14:59:28 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Tue Nov 15 15:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: what is the differents References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:dld8fr$7mj$1@news.spamcop.net... > The differences between being a paid reporter vs being a free reporter > are that the paid reporter > > - gets rid of the nag wait for standard free reporting > - can add additional notifies to a spamcop report > - can 'appeal' to SC to 'please' notify a provider who wouldn't be > - can access a db of your reports Please don't forget the Report History feature also being only available to paying customers. References: Report History at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4473&st=0&p=29916&#ReportHistory and SpamCop Report Types at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5232 . Also, please see http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/difference . -- Thanks and Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From blabla at bla.com Wed Nov 16 08:31:49 2005 From: blabla at bla.com (blabla@bla.com) Date: Wed Nov 16 02:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: what is the differents References: Message-ID: I know what it says in the ruls. Iīm already a paying member. But no my uel is out, i do not see a differents in the screens. I still have to do the same, the are you sure shit etc etc. I just want a list with the mails i send and say once yes. I donīt give a sh*t about who its reporting to are what i have send. I know what iīm reporting, and just want simple send a report wihtout sitting 30 minutes behind my desktop to verify the messages. So what i hoped for, by supporting the site, because the idea is good, that i would be faster. just 1 mouse click away form reporting. But that is not the case. If i want to see the reports, i just go to the report section. From MikeE at ster.invalid Wed Nov 16 05:53:17 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Wed Nov 16 08:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: what is the differents References: Message-ID: blabla@bla.com wrote: > to do the same, the are you sure shit etc etc. I just want a list > with the mails i send and say once yes. I don?t give a sh*t about who > its reporting to are what i have send. There is no such thing as a 'regular' reporter, paid or not, who doesn't have to approve each report's parse result. The purpose of that approval is to oversee parsing errors which can report your own provider or other errors. It also provides an opportunity to deselect any innocent bystanders which appear in the spambody and to note which spamvertisers SC has failed to resolve, to enable manual notification or discussion. > I know what i?m reporting, and just want simple send a report wihtout > sitting 30 minutes behind my desktop to verify the messages. If you only want to report the spamsources for the SCbl and forego any reporting of the spamvertisers, you can quick report. With the quick report submission, there is no parse approval oversight or approval. Whatever the parse result for the spamsource is immediately reported. There is also no spamvertiser reporting. The spamvertisers are ignored. You receive a SC notice of what spamsource was reported and a tracker. Quick reporting requires being configured for mailhosting and admin approval. And we are still discussing this thread in the wrong newsgroup. 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Sarge a.. Verkaufs und Marktstande a.. Bauholz a.. Saunenholz a.. Holzprodukte fur Ihren Garten a.. Verpackungen a.. Produkte aus Aluminiumprofil http://www.medison.lt/index.php?lang=de&mID=2 From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 28 12:09:39 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 28 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Spamcop email service filtering viruses...how to bypass it? Message-ID: I know that's a strange question, but if I would prefer to report viruses through Spamcop instead of having the emails be automatically deleted, is there anything I can do about that? From jeffg at spamcop.net Tue Nov 29 01:38:45 2005 From: jeffg at spamcop.net (Jeff G.) Date: Tue Nov 29 01:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Spamcop email service filtering viruses...how to bypass it? References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dmfo61$uou$1@news.spamcop.net... > I know that's a strange question, but if I would prefer to report viruses > through Spamcop instead of having the emails be automatically deleted, is > there anything I can do about that? No, sorry, at last check the system was being inundated with worms and viruses. Feel free to lobby JT, though. :) -- Best Regards, Jeff G. I have been a SpamCop User/Member/Customer since 1999 and am a Moderator of the new web-based forums (now the primary method for getting help, http://forum.spamcop.net). Please contact me via Forum only. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 28 22:48:26 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 29 01:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Spamcop email service filtering viruses...how to bypass it? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Jeff G. wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dmfo61$uou$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I know that's a strange question, but if I would prefer to report > > viruses > >>through Spamcop instead of having the emails be automatically deleted, > > is > >>there anything I can do about that? > > > No, sorry, at last check the system was being inundated with worms and > viruses. Feel free to lobby JT, though. :) > Oh fat lot of good THAT will do. :-P