From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 27 00:30:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Ellen) Date: Sat Apr 25 08:27:15 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Scheduled Maintenance Thursday March 26, 2009 - (SpamCop4.5.0-084 Release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: RW wrote: > RW wrote: > Visitors will see the SpamCop reporting website in > "Maintenance Mode" through the process. > > Emailed spam submissions will still be accepted, but processing will be > delayed. It will no doubt take a few hours to catch up with the backlog > when things are brought back up. > > Richard The maintenance is running longer than expected. Thanks for your patience. Ellen SpamCop From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 27 01:20:02 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 08:27:37 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Scheduled Maintenance Thursday March 26, 2009 - (SpamCop4.5.0-084 Release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ellen wrote: > RW wrote: >> RW wrote: >> Visitors will see the SpamCop reporting website in "Maintenance Mode" >> through the process. >> >> Emailed spam submissions will still be accepted, but processing will >> be delayed. It will no doubt take a few hours to catch up with the >> backlog when things are brought back up. >> >> Richard > > > > The maintenance is running longer than expected. Thanks for your patience. > > > Ellen > SpamCop We're told another 1/2 hour or so Richard From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 27 03:00:03 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Steven Underwood) Date: Sat Apr 25 08:28:28 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Scheduled Maintenance Thursday March 26, 2009 - (SpamCop 4.5.0-084 Release) References: Message-ID: "RW" wrote in message news:gqh60n$g71$1@news.spamcop.net... > > We're told another 1/2 hour or so > > Richard While I see that the reporting site appears to be up, I am getting the following error trying to reach the VER site from my logged in account: Cannot find login information. Not logged in? VER tends to be a lot quicker getting messages into the queue as opposed to forwarding from webmail, but I will revert back to that if necessary. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Mar 27 03:50:01 2009 From: nobody at spamcop.net (RW) Date: Sat Apr 25 08:28:58 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Scheduled Maintenance Thursday March 26, 2009 - (SpamCop4.5.0-084 Release) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steven Underwood wrote: > > > "RW" wrote in message > news:gqh60n$g71$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> We're told another 1/2 hour or so >> >> Richard > > While I see that the reporting site appears to be up, I am getting the > following error trying to reach the VER site from my logged in account: > > Cannot find login information. Not logged in? > > VER tends to be a lot quicker getting messages into the queue as opposed > to forwarding from webmail, but I will revert back to that if necessary. I'm getting some 'failed to load spam header' error when parsing. Reloading once or twice gets the parse. I suspect the error your seeing is also the databases catching up with each other. I suspect the servers are overloaded with trying to catch up. I'm not going to ring any alarm bells just yet. Things look good in the crons, though one cron that normally takes a minute or so has been running for an hour. Only apps 4 and 7 are showing room to take on load, but not much. The other 10 must be churning away. Richard From me at privacy.net Fri Mar 27 22:45:02 2009 From: me at privacy.net (Michael R N Dolbear) Date: Sat Apr 25 08:39:24 2009 Subject: [SpamCop-Mail] Re: Scheduled Maintenance Thursday March 26, 2009 - (SpamCop 4.5.0-084 Release) References: Message-ID: <01c9af1e$f71073a0$LocalHost@default> Steven Underwood wrote > While I see that the reporting site appears to be up, I am getting the > following error trying to reach the VER site from my logged in account: > > Cannot find login information. Not logged in? > > VER tends to be a lot quicker getting messages into the queue as opposed to > forwarding from webmail, but I will revert back to that if necessary. 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