From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 23 05:46:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sahara) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 11:16:06 +0530 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] HELPING HOME FOR PARALYSED AND DISABLED PERSON-NEPAL (SAHARA GRIHA) Message-ID: <001301c2db06$27d2ac40$074546ca@sahara> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C2DB2C.F5686A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regd. No.171/1356 SWC No.12835/2001 Tel:9771560456 "Your little help counts a lot for us" SAHARA GRIHA (helping home for paralyzed and disabled person) Godawari-3,kitini, lalitpur, Kathmandu, Nepal=20 GPO BOX-19512 KTM,Email-saharag@ntc.net.np=20 To Dear sir/Madam We would like to introduce ourselves as one of the Non-profitable and = Non-governmental organization established in 2001 A.D. to help and care = the paralyzed and disabled-physical, blind and deaf-(Cerebral Palsy, = Head & Spinal cord injury, Cerebral Vascular Accident, Motor Neuron = Dieses, = GeneticMuscularDistrophy,Down'sSyndrom,Cretinism,Ataxia,Polio,GuillainBar= eSyndrom,Rynumenitism,Meningitis,Encephalities). persons . This NGO will pay special attention to help the paralyzed and disabled = person by:- 1.Steeping as far as possible to reduce the number of paralyzed and = disabled person in society by Community awareness, Community based = Advocacy, Counseling and Community based training. Because the main = cause for disable is Uneducation, unsafe pregnant, lack of Humanitarian = behavior, Poverty elevation, unemployment and also the Maoists problem. 2.Providing them residential rehabilitation, education, vocational = training, nursing care with medical, psychosocial support for whole = life. We have been running this organization with a number of paralyzed and = disabled person with our self finance, near in future we have plan to = increase the number of Paralyzed and disabled person. Till now we don't = have any donor so, for the betterment of the paralyzed and disabled = person we would like to request you to provide us donor or donation or = any other kind of help for their existence. We would like to work together with you and with your organization = individually or institutionally. At last we would like to request you to have a visit here in this = organization at Godawari and have an effective suggestion. Hoping to have the positive view. Thanking you and awaiting your kind co-operation. For more information Please visit our website:- www.saharagriha.org.np=20 Narayan Khatri President SAHARA GRIHA GPO Box:19512 KTM Nepal Email:-khatri@saharagriha.org.np Karki@saharagriha.org.np NOTE :- khatri_narayan@hotmail.com and karki_parbati@hotmail.com are = completely closed now so, you will not send in this E-mail . Introduction 1.Background: Sahara Griha is the Non-profitable and Non-governmental organization = established in 2001 A.D. to help and care the paralyzed and disabled = individual. This centre is providing community base rehabilitation and = centre base rehabilitation which are includings nursing care with = medical, Psychosocial support, with lodging and fooding for whole life.=20 In the beginning , it was started with one paralyzed person, Now there = are ten individuals, among them five individuals cannot move, all the = time they used to lying on the bed, so they need special nursing and = medical care. It was established after research about the condition of paralyzed and = disabled individuals in the society of Nepal. 2.Vision: It's vision is to create the respectful life having equal opportunity = for paralyzed and disabled individuals in the community according to = their physical and mental capacity in family environment. 3.Mission: a.. It's mission is to provide the rehabilitation facilities in the = community for the paralyzed and disabled people with medical care, = health education ,Psychosocial support and physiotherapy. It will help = to raise their self - esteem with respect having equal opportunity.=20 b.. It is running Centre based rehabilitation service. In this centre = it provides rehabilitation service with proper nursing care, lodging, = fooding ,medical and psychosocial support as well as physiotherapy for = paralyzed and disabled individual of any age or sex group for whole life = in the shelter.=20 4.Hypothesis: Most of the paralyzed and disabled individuals in Nepal are ignored, = neglected and forced to live in a dark room, because most of the family = members of paralyzed and disabled individuals feels shame or losing the = prestige in the community due to them, so they used to hide their = paralyzed and disabled individuals as a result, they are dying in the = same room or bed where they born. Some of family member may find making = them beggar on the street. In this way such type of individuals are = loosing human rights too. Feeling the need of a organization ,Sahara Griha was established and = running till date to help the poor paralyzed and disabled people by = providing lodging , fooding and medical treatment at Godawari-3 ,kitini = ,Lalitpur. This organization is hoping to reduce the family burden as well as = mental or spiritual satisfaction. 5.Objectives: It has determined the following objectives : a.. To provide the awareness about the human rights of paralyzed and = disabled individual in the community.=20 b.. To provide nursing care, medical, psychosocial support to the = paralyzed individuals with lodging and fooding in rehabilitation centre. = c.. To conduct different recreational activities in the centre for = them.=20 d.. To make them free from neglected life and raise their self-esteem. = e.. To provide opportunity for skill development according to their = interest and capacity.=20 6.Activities: a.Centre based Programme: a.. Medical Care=20 b.. Psychological Support=20 c.. Health Education=20 d.. Literacy Programme=20 e.. Nursing Care=20 f.. Lodging / Fooding=20 g.. Family Counseling Service=20 h.. Recreational Activities-Audio-Visual aids, play, music and games.=20 i.. Vocational Training=20 j.. Income Generating Programme=20 k.. Literature and Publication,=20 l.. Education programme.=20 b.Community based Programme:- a.. Data Collection=20 b.. Advocacy(Awareness development, Community base rehabilitation, = Equal opportunity, Human rights).=20 c.. Education programme.=20 7.Coming Programme: Sahara Griha to be wide as well as to broad its vision among paralyzed = and disabled victims , is collecting the name and address of the fully = paralyzed and disabled persons within the 75 districts .For this aspect = ,it is starting this data collection through SOLUKHUMBU(World's Highest = Peak Mount Everest 8848m.) district. After getting the name list of = Handicapped through 75 districts ,Sahara Griha with the help of other = organization will run its branch on each and every districts. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C2DB2C.F5686A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Regd. No.171/1356

SWC No.12835/2001 Tel:9771560456

"Your little help counts a lot for us"

SAHARA GRIHA

(helping home for paralyzed and disabled person)

Godawari-3,kitini, lalitpur, Kathmandu, Nepal

GPO BOX-19512 KTM,Email-saharag@ntc.net.np =

To

Dear sir/Madam

We would like to introduce ourselves as one of the=20 Non-profitable and Non-governmental organization established in 2001 = A.D. to=20 help and care the paralyzed and disabled-physical, blind and = deaf-(Cerebral=20 Palsy, Head & Spinal cord injury, Cerebral Vascular Accident, Motor = Neuron=20 Dieses,=20 GeneticMuscularDistrophy,Down’sSyndrom,Cretinism,Ataxia,Polio,Guill= ainBareSyndrom,Rynumenitism,Meningitis,Encephalities).=20 persons .

This NGO will pay special attention to help the = paralyzed and=20 disabled person by:-

1.Steeping as far as possible to reduce the number of = paralyzed=20 and disabled person in society by Community awareness, Community based = Advocacy,=20 Counseling and Community based training. Because the main cause for = disable is=20 Uneducation, unsafe pregnant, lack of Humanitarian behavior, Poverty = elevation,=20 unemployment and also the Maoists problem.

2.Providing them residential rehabilitation, = education,=20 vocational training, nursing care with medical, psychosocial support for = whole=20 life.

We have been running this organization with a number = of=20 paralyzed and disabled person with our self finance, near in future we = have plan=20 to increase the number of Paralyzed and disabled person. Till now we = don’t have=20 any donor so, for the betterment of the paralyzed and disabled person we = would=20 like to request you to provide us donor or donation or any other kind of = help=20 for their existence.

We would like to work together with you and with your = organization individually or institutionally.

 

 

At last we would like to request you to have a visit = here in=20 this organization at Godawari and have an effective suggestion.

Hoping to have the positive view.

Thanking you and awaiting your kind co-operation.

For more information Please visit our website:- = www.saharagriha.org.np

Narayan Khatri

President

SAHARA GRIHA

GPO Box:19512 KTM Nepal

Email:-khatri@saharagriha.org.np

Karki@saharagriha.org.np

NOTE :- khatri_narayan@hotmail.com and=20 karki_parbati@hotmail.com are completely closed now so, you will not = send in=20 this E-mail .

Introduction

1.Background:

Sahara Griha is the Non-profitable and = Non-governmental=20 organization established in 2001 A.D. to help and care the paralyzed and = disabled individual. This centre is providing community base = rehabilitation and=20 centre base rehabilitation which are includings nursing care with = medical,=20 Psychosocial support, with lodging and fooding for whole life.

In the beginning , it was started with one paralyzed = person,=20 Now there are ten individuals, among them five individuals cannot move, = all the=20 time they used to lying on the bed, so they need special nursing and = medical=20 care.

It was established after research about the condition = of=20 paralyzed and disabled individuals in the society of Nepal.

2.Vision:

It’s vision is to create the respectful life = having equal=20 opportunity for paralyzed and disabled individuals in the community = according to=20 their physical and mental capacity in family environment.

3.Mission:

  • It’s mission is to provide the rehabilitation facilities in = the community=20 for the paralyzed and disabled people with medical care, health = education=20 ,Psychosocial support and physiotherapy. It will help to raise their = self –=20 esteem with respect having equal opportunity.=20

  • It is running Centre based rehabilitation service. In this centre = it=20 provides rehabilitation service with proper nursing care, lodging, = fooding=20 ,medical and psychosocial support as well as physiotherapy for = paralyzed and=20 disabled individual of any age or sex group for whole life in the = shelter.=20

4.Hypothesis:

Most of the paralyzed and disabled individuals in = Nepal are=20 ignored, neglected and forced to live in a dark room, because most of = the family=20 members of paralyzed and disabled individuals feels shame or losing the = prestige=20 in the community due to them, so they used to hide their paralyzed and = disabled=20 individuals as a result, they are dying in the same room or bed where = they born.=20 Some of family member may find making them beggar on the street. In this = way=20 such type of individuals are loosing human rights too.

Feeling the need of a organization ,Sahara Griha was=20 established and running till date to help the poor paralyzed and = disabled people=20 by providing lodging , fooding and medical treatment at Godawari-3 = ,kitini=20 ,Lalitpur.

This organization is hoping to reduce the family = burden as well=20 as mental or spiritual satisfaction.

5.Objectives:

It has determined the following objectives :

  • To provide the awareness about the human rights of paralyzed and = disabled=20 individual in the community.=20

  • To provide nursing care, medical, psychosocial support to the = paralyzed=20 individuals with lodging and fooding in rehabilitation centre.=20

  • To conduct different recreational activities in the centre for = them.=20

  • To make them free from neglected life and raise their self-esteem. =

  • To provide opportunity for skill development according to their = interest=20 and capacity.=20

6.Activities:

a.Centre based Programme:

  • Medical Care=20

  • Psychological Support=20

  • Health Education=20

  • Literacy Programme=20

  • Nursing Care=20

  • Lodging / Fooding=20

  • Family Counseling Service=20

  • Recreational Activities-Audio-Visual aids, play, music and games.=20

  • Vocational Training=20

  • Income Generating Programme=20

  • Literature and Publication,=20

  • Education programme.=20

b.Community based Programme:-

    • Data Collection=20

    • Advocacy(Awareness development, Community base rehabilitation, = Equal=20 opportunity, Human rights).=20

    • Education programme.=20

 

 

7.Coming Programme:

Sahara Griha to be wide as well as to broad its = vision among=20 paralyzed and disabled victims , is collecting the name and address of = the fully=20 paralyzed and disabled persons within the 75 districts .For this aspect = ,it is=20 starting this data collection through SOLUKHUMBU(World’s Highest = Peak Mount=20 Everest 8848m.) district. After getting the name list of Handicapped = through 75=20 districts ,Sahara Griha with the help of other organization will run its = branch=20 on each and every districts.

 

------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C2DB2C.F5686A20-- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:33:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:33:43 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 08:36:59 -0500, Neil wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.01.30.23.24.07.377316@sneakemail.com... > >> There are more, but those are they ones that pop out right now. > > - I'd add NBC4 (Washington DC) news anchors Barbara Harrison and Joe Krebs > > - The phrase 'Think outside the box' > > More to follow as I work through my day....lol. Ok, I spent a few hours on a train today hearing people's phones ring and them saying over and over "can you hear me". Well, maybe it was just that one woman who kept saying that, but that was enough. I haven't decided if I'm going to allow cell phones when I'm master of the universe, but certainly all rings that are anything but "ring ring" are gone. Say good bye to your cute little songs announcing phone calls. Do you think if Bach or Beethoven came back and they heard all these shrill phones playing their music, they would just freak out? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:37:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:37:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 18:55:10 -0500, Linda wrote: > "And that's a good thing" > > Arghhhhhhhhhhh...... please NO MORE good things. ;-) > Hmm, I could add Martha Stewart to the list if you are really nice to me. Well, she bugs me too, I throw her in for free. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:35:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:35:27 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E3A145E.D2D7DA60@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:14:54 -0800, GregR wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > >> There are more, but those are they ones that pop out right now. > > Can I vote for "all powerful"?...... :-Þ > Only if you become the master of the universe instead. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:51:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 20:51:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3AECE0.5010906@online.no> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:38:40 +0100, helge wrote: > Guy Macon wrote: >> >> Nobody is buried in Grant's tomb. You don't bury people in tombs, which >> are above-ground structures. You entomb them. So, who is entombed in >> Grant's Tomb? Grant and his wife. > > I feel there is a contradiction here. Perhaps you don't need to be an > expert at english, but it's pretty advanced english to distinguish between > entombing and burying, especially since Concise Oxford defines: > I think I have to agree with that. Notice the 'in a tomb' part. [~]$ dict buried 2 definitions found >From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: Bury \Bur"y\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Buried}; p. pr. & vb. n. 2. Specifically: To cover out of sight, as the body of a deceased person, in a grave, a tomb, or the ocean; to deposit (a corpse) in its resting place, with funeral ceremonies; to inter; to inhume. Syn: To intomb; inter; inhume; inurn; hide; cover; conceal; overwhelm; repress. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:52:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > Do you think if Bach or > Beethoven came back and they heard all these shrill phones playing > their music, they would just freak out? I don't know. I programmed my last phone to play either Rimsky- Korsakov or Borodin. I don't think that B or B would have cared (that it played someone else's music)! Anywho... A peeve, if you will... The use of adjectives in place of adverbs! Arg! Another... The use of object pronouns with gerunds! Arg!!! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:46:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Not Me) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:46:59 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: | | She has bad arthritis now .. so I have a ramp I built for her to get in and | out of the car. She can't ride too much .. and hates to stay at home. But | I still take her for rides.... | | B.G. Look into cortisone treatments. Most are injectable for animals but they may now be available in pill form. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:53:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Not Me) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:53:23 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: | > | **That's OK, I'll wait.... LOL ;) | > | > Why do I have a sense that H*LL just froze over? | > | jejejeje..... | LM*O Jo Jo Jo SanT-Clause From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 01:54:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Not Me) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:54:51 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: | > | > You must have been a riot on a car date!! | | LOL. To be fair, I was not even a teenager by the time I learnt the real | meaning of the word. | | A child prodigy, just precocious or down right wanton? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 02:12:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:12:54 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.01.01.37.37.450652@sneakemail.com... > > Hmm, I could add Martha Stewart to the list if you are really nice to me. > Well, she bugs me too, I throw her in for free. ***"That would be VERRRRR-y EXCellent".... :D From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 02:27:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:27:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... Message-ID: yay, and on Valentine's Day too, how appropriate! http://makeashorterlink.com/?G6C624851 From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 02:49:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:49:21 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:12:54 -0500, Heidi wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.01.01.37.37.450652@sneakemail.com... >> >> Hmm, I could add Martha Stewart to the list if you are really nice to >> me. Well, she bugs me too, I throw her in for free. > > ***"That would be VERRRRR-y EXCellent".... :D Do you remember her Christmas special a few years ago (the one where she had the rent-a-family) and she almost decked Miss Piggy because she wasn't making the pecan pie right, or the holiday decorations, or whatever it was that they were making. Umm, Martha, that's a muppet, they are fun, they don't cook. Just fricking calm down. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 02:51:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:51:57 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.01.02.49.21.525904@sneakemail.com... > Do you remember her Christmas special a few years ago (the one where she > had the rent-a-family) and she almost decked Miss Piggy because she wasn't > making the pecan pie right, or the holiday decorations, or whatever it was > that they were making. Umm, Martha, that's a muppet, they are fun, they > don't cook. Just fricking calm down. **That was one of my favorite ones - they were making cut out cookies, and there were several sizes stacked on top of each other, and she had all these cookie cutters in various sizes. As she put one cookie on top of another, she asked Miss Piggy "Do you know what that's called? Miss Piggy calmly replied "OBSESSIVE???" Went RIGHT over her head. What really pissed me off was Martha criticizing Julia Child and her imperfect crocembouche (sp?).....of ALL people! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:06:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (B.G.) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:06:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Not ... She's already getting Rimadyl .. and has never had a problem with it. And .. just like me .... she gets glucosamine/chondroitin. She's doing well on both and the cortisone has been discussed. Vet doesn't want to change to it. I inherited her with .. as the vet says .. a horrible back and she thinks the side-effects would be too hard on the pooch. Right now, she's also on an antibiotic that, each time I give her one, I ask if she wants one of her 'gold-plated pills!' They're chewable .. she likes them .. but they're *$3.60* each!!! She's worth it, tho'..... B.G. Not Me wrote in message news:b1f9j9$aep$1@news.spamcop.net... > | > | She has bad arthritis now .. so I have a ramp I built for her to get in > and > | out of the car. She can't ride too much .. and hates to stay at home. > But > | I still take her for rides.... > | > | B.G. > > Look into cortisone treatments. Most are injectable for animals but they > may now be available in pill form. > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:17:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:17:57 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: >It's not a puffin anyway, their scientific name is Fratercula arctica >(northern little brother) > >Ah, it seems it's the Manx Shearwater >http://www.neseabirds.com/shearwatermanx.htm Correct! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:23:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (B.G.) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:23:19 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Heidi ... I think shutting down shithole puppy mills must be as hard as shutting down shithole spammers. But I'd like to see them all be caught and sentenced to 'life' in the same conditions they inflicted on the dogs. It sounds like you did a good job with the voodoo .... and I agree .. I hope he's burning in hell .. slowly. Some people actually believe that the idea of 'owning' a dog is to keep it outside in a small run 24/7. They go out once or twice a day and put in a bowl of food .. hose the place out .. and go back inside. The poor dog barks all day, but is ignored. .... your description of 'selective hearing' is right on! I thought Eclipse was losing her hearing .. NOT! She can still hear her collar being picked up at 50 yards! But yes .. stop chasing/chewing/er .. 'recycling' .. and you could scream all day! Considering I got the pup at 11.5, I don't think she's going to 'outlive' the abuse, but I think she's pretty 'ok' with where she is now. Yours will forget probably 98% .. and will regain trust. Tell me about MSM .. I was telling 'Not' about what she's on for meds and the vet has ruled out cortisone. How would this fit in? B.G. Heidi wrote in message news:b1cpaq$nu5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "B.G." wrote in message > news:b1cmt3$m1v$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Heidi ... > > > > She was *burned??* Don't *ever* point out her former owner to me.... > > **Oh, it's a lovely story. She was taken off a drunken redneck in Arkansas > (he bought her out of a shithole puppymill) in the most deplorable > condition, beaten, skinny, missing big patches of hair, covered with sores > from being burned with lit cigarettes. The cops prosecuted him for cruelty > and got him convicted, when they went to pick him up they found him dead on > his front porch after a night of drinking, covered with self inflicted burn > wounds. I tell everyone it was me with my voodoo doll... may he burn in > hell. > > > > My dog was kept in a very small outdoor run .. and locked in a very small > > space in a garage at night. Her greeting in the morning was a grumbled, > > 'Get out of there!' when the guy would open the door to the garage and > shove > > her into the run. Rain .. snow .. light .. dark .. hot summer sun. > > **The point of having a dog is what, again? Why do people like this bother? > Wouldn't it be easier just not to be bothered at all? GRR. > > > > She hated the newspaper .. so one day I called her over and showed it to > her > > in folded form. Then I started to rub her with it .. working my way down > to > > her butt. Now .... she sees a paper and rushes over for a 'butt rub.' > > **hee... :) > > > > The day I got her, we went everywhere in the car .. her head out the > window > > .. ears flapping in the breeze. She has two collars .. a soft nylon one > she > > wears in the house w/tags, and a choke chain she wears when we go 'out!' > > All I have to do is pick up the chain .. as quietly as I can .. and she's > > bouncing around like a puppy. It means 'vehicle!!!!' Even at age 14.5. > > **Hehe..mine know the key sound and they can even hear the leashes when I > pick them up. If only their hearing was so good when I say "get back > here".... as they're bolting off after Mr. Squirrel... > > > She's never locked up anywhere, but has the run of the house and yard. In > > weather warm enough, and even sometimes not, I leave the back door open > and > > she comes and goes. She loves lying in the grass .. she had 9 years of > > concrete. > > *** My friend, who adopted my dogs mother out of the shithole puppymill (and > that description is putting it very kindly), says she likes it when they get > old enough that they've had more good years than bad. Hers just reached 12, > I think, and mine was rescued at two, she's now 5, so hopefully most of that > nightmare is gone forever. > > > > She has bad arthritis now .. so I have a ramp I built for her to get in > and > > out of the car. She can't ride too much .. and hates to stay at home. > But > > I still take her for rides.... > > > **If you haven't tried it already, try giving her some MSM, you can get it > just about anywhere. It does a lot for arthritis to reduce the inflammation > and make moving easier. I can tell you for a fact that it works very well, > and it's cheap too. > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:32:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:32:17 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit helge wrote: >[18] What is another word for Thesaurus? > Hint: One word, eight letters, one letter is used three > times, another letter is used twice, and I found it in > Roget’s Thesaurus. >Perhaps it is a word invented to fit the occasion. No. I found it in Roget’s Thesaurus, but it's also listed as a word in The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language and in Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary. >I don't find it in my Roget's (Penguin paperback 1962/66) Two psooble reasons: [1] I didn't say *where* I found it in Roget’s Thesaurus. It isn't where you would first think to look. [2] Your copy is a bastardization of the original masterpiece. The original (published in 1852) was titled _ Thesaurus of English Words & Phrases, Classified & Arranged so as to Facilitate the Expression of Ideas & Assist in Literary Composition_, named after his brillian classification system. Although it is possible to find a modern version that has the original classification system, most publisher are putting out Thesaurii with a far-inferior dictionary classification system. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:29:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:29:37 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: | She's already getting Rimadyl .. and has never had a problem with it. And | .. just like me .... she gets glucosamine/chondroitin. She's doing well | on both and the cortisone has been discussed. Vet doesn't want to change to | it. I inherited her with .. as the vet says .. a horrible back and she | thinks the side-effects would be too hard on the pooch. | | Right now, she's also on an antibiotic that, each time I give her one, I ask | if she wants one of her 'gold-plated pills!' They're chewable .. she likes | them .. but they're *$3.60* each!!! She's worth it, tho'..... | | B.G. | Sorry about the ID screw up . I had to reconfigure my new reader and did not put in the right ID. Glade to hear you have something going. Might check into getting the RX filled in Canada as this is as much as 1/4 of what some stuff sells for in the states. Proceed carefully as buying elsewhere may cause you problems with your vet. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:45:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:45:38 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Sylvesterthekat wrote: >Another word is synonymy but that doesn't fit his description (9 letters, >repetitions etc). Are you sure that you wouldn't like to count tat again? [18] What is another word for Thesaurus? Hint: One word, eight letters, one letter is used three times, another letter is used twice, and I found it in Roget’s Thesaurus. synonymy 12345678 - Eight letters total synonymy -1---2-3 - "y" is used three times synonymy --1-2--- - "n" is used twice synonymy 1------- - "s" is used once synonymy ---1---- - "o" is used once synonymy ------1- - "m" is used once "Apart from the scientific and logical arrangement the distinguishing feature of Roget is the inclusion of phrases. No other synonymy gives anything but individual words." -Preface to Roget’s International Thesaurus, 1922 edition "Lexicon, synonymy, promptory -- all these are alternative terms to describe a thesaurus. So are these words and phrases: synonym finder, wordbook, cyclopedia, glossary, language reference book, onomasticon, sourcebook, storehouse of words, vocabulary word list, word treasury, conceptual dictionary, semantic dictionary, and my favorite: synonymicon." -Tony Miksak's Words on Books as broadcast weekly on KZYX radio, Aired Friday May 10, 2002 at 8:55 am and Sunday May 12, 2002 at 10:55 am. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:50:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:50:31 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: kram wrote: >Got it!! >synonymy Correct! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:52:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:52:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "B.G." wrote in message news:b1feq8$d93$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heidi ... > > I think shutting down shithole puppy mills must be as hard as shutting down > shithole spammers. But I'd like to see them all be caught and sentenced to > 'life' in the same conditions they inflicted on the dogs. ***Unfortunately, the stupid old hag is still in business, the only "punishment" she's ever received is a suspension by the AKC for falsifying pedigrees. AKC=Completely Useless... The conditions at her place were deplorable, little or no food, when the bitch and her litter of puppies were rescued they all had rickets, giardia, every kind of worm and parasite you can imagine. I kept asking why cruelty charges were never brought, and was told "it's Missouri"... > Tell me about MSM .. I was telling 'Not' about what she's on for meds and > the vet has ruled out cortisone. How would this fit in? > ***It's a supplement, you can get it in capsules or from a place like JeffersPet.com it comes in a powder that you can sprinkle on the food. It's a sulphur supplement, reduces inflammation and actually is one of the key building blocks that helps the chondroiton work. (I take about 12,000 mg a day, you can safely take up to 30,000 for severe arthritis. There's a better explanation here: http://users.rcn.com/ereshkigal/msm.txt http://www.doctormurray.com/Qarchive/msm.htm http://www.vita-connection.com/vc97d.htm As for the Rimadyl, I would be very very careful and watchful, it's known to have some pretty powerful side effects if not deaths associated with it. Every few months it wouldn't hurt to check the liver and see if it's still functioning properly. The stuff scares me to death. http://www.gooddogmagazine.com/rimadyllawsuit.htm http://www.arthritis-cats-dogs.com/dogs/side-effects-rimadyl.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:53:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:53:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "B.G." wrote in message news:b1fdqu$cnn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Right now, she's also on an antibiotic that, each time I give her one, I ask > if she wants one of her 'gold-plated pills!' They're chewable .. she likes > them .. but they're *$3.60* each!!! She's worth it, tho'..... > *** Crikey, what the hell is that at $3.60 each? Sounds very dangerously close to a rip off unless they really ARE gold plated.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 03:54:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:54:59 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The East Coast isn't the only spot with bad weather References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1euqe$3g9$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.weather.com/weather/local/91505 > > 90 in the middle of winter. Oh whatever will I do.... > ***If you're smart you will shut up before one of us easterners beats you.... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 11:50:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Peter Jensen) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:50:18 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3A8C38.5040700@online.no> Message-ID: helge wrote: >>> Since I would call it in my own language .... >> >> Norwegian? > > Yes. Your last name must come from either Norway or Denmark, possibly > Sweden if it has been modified. Denmark, it is. It's the most common name too ... -- PeKaJe From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 14:55:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:55:18 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:19:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:19:44 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > Terrible thing but statistically it was probably overdue. Looks like it was catastrophic and instantaneous. I doubt there's any chance of them getting out alive. I see it broke up over TX. Terrible shame. I wonder how this will impact the shuttle programme. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:23:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:23:39 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns9314A0926EADDcharles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > > > I'll bet a month's worth (ok a whole box) of tampons would do an > > excellent job LOL > > Sigh. That isn't funny... I had to dig up a sewer line once because > it was backed up... Seems one of the renters flushed all of hers... > Very messy problem... Ugh, how horrible. And what a moron! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:21:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (John L.) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:21:09 -0700 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: On the cnn.com website.... http://tinyurl.com/5724 "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:25:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:25:36 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1eopq$un2$1@news.spamcop.net... b> Got it!! > synonymy nope, it's only got 8 letters and I already mentioned that one From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:25:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:25:55 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E3AE9AE.4A72B20E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3AE9AE.4A72B20E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > indigo wrote: > > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > > news:b1cclc$e87$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > | **That's OK, I'll wait.... LOL ;) > > > > > > Why do I have a sense that H*LL just froze over? > > > > > jejejeje..... > > ? :-) he's laughing in Spanish > > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:22:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:22:52 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1fbkf$bfq$1@news.spamcop.net... > yay, and on Valentine's Day too, how appropriate! > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?G6C624851 Excellent, a marathon to boot! I hope it's not the one I bought when in England.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:28:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:28:58 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1epru$vt2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1emod$t4s$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > The worst thing I ever lost down a drain was a diamond pendant that > belonged > > to my mother. I think about it occasionally, wondering if anyone will ever > > come across it on some beach somewhere... ho hum I tried to retrieve it > but > > the trap hadn't trapped it and it was gone :o( > > > ***Oh ouch, that's the worst Yes, sure was. Not only was it valuable but it had sentimental value too. I took it quite calmly and philosophically which surprised even me. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:30:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:30:13 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What do you think must happen before any attack on Iraq? References: <3E385213.AFF27566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" wrote in message news:b1eqd8$jn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well, that's what I used to tell my children about TV - as long as you > didn't have a steady diet of "Twinkies," an occasional Twinkie or a > mindless TV show didn't hurt. (That's because I had my own favorite > "nothing" show I wanted to watch!) LOL, good thinking. If one is going to dish out sage advice, better make it suit your own needs too. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:35:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:35:00 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Heidi wrote: > > > > > > > > ***Are you going to get a job before you move, or are you moving either way, > > and by the way, when's the wedding? > > Going to move either way. She hasn't set a date yet.. but looks like it is > either this summer or fall. (Personally, I would still rather elope and save the > money. :-)) That's pretty much what we did. Total cost around $250 LOL. No stress, cliffs above the bay in Santa Barbara, only bro in law in attendance. We rented a white Beetle as they'd only just come on the scene back then. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:36:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:36:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Not Me" wrote in message news:b1erku$1h0$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > | > girlfriends, so I didn't have anything to base it on. But I did wonder > why > | > his last live-in had cut _every_single_ electrical cord in the house > when > | > she moved out 8-) > | > > | > | Maybe it's time to give him a bit of that sense of deja vu? And cut them > | close to the appliances, not the plugs heheheheh > | > > No don;t cut them at all but do soak the plub ends in salt water for a bit > (sale works it's way up the inside of the plug and the cord and causes all > sorts of intermittent problems but nothing catastrophic so it does not > endanger anyone. Hmm... that's evil but clever. I'll store that one away for future use LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:32:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:32:27 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: my heart's bleeding for them (telemarketers) References: <3E3AEE04.2D4CC17C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3AEE04.2D4CC17C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030130/ts_nm/telecom s_te > > lemarketers_dc_4 > > > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?M28125943 > > They've turned to filling up my answering machine with useless get-rich-quick > and frea-vacation crap.. screw them. I've never had one leave a message on my machine. We're unlisted and don't get very many and I've managed to tell most of them to put us on a do not call list so luckily we get at most one every two weeks. I was plagued by AT&T for a while after I dropped them but eventually they got the message and stopped calling. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:39:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:39:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "John E. Malmberg" wrote in message news:b1et15$2eq$1@news.spamcop.net... > Not Me wrote: > No, you should not do any damage at all. This could cause you problems. > > Now can you find some underwear that is obviously not yours or hers, > maybe with a monogram or a name embroidered? And of course she should retain a key and deposit these undies a month or two after she's moved out to avoid any confusion heheheh From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:38:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:38:31 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Not Me" wrote in message news:b1erku$1h0$3@news.spamcop.net... > Likely still in the sewer lines (sewer lines don't dump anywhere except the > central processing plant which are cleaned on occasion (~25-50 years or so). > > If that ever happens again don't use any water in the house and contact a > plumber or sewer clean out service. They can open the system at the street > clean out and vacuum the lines. Due to the mass and weight these things > move slowly through the house lines and even slower once in the street side > of the system. I live on the 9th floor of an apartment building so who knows what the situation is here. Certainly I have no control over anything other than my own water usage and can't go digging up any sewer lines! If I lived in a house though I'd certainly remember your advice for future idiotic clumsiness. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:42:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:42:23 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The East Coast isn't the only spot with bad weather References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1euqe$3g9$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.weather.com/weather/local/91505 > > 90 in the middle of winter. Oh whatever will I do.... It's 55 at the moment but I hear ya. It was downright HOT yesterday. I was driving home from seeing a movie last night (The Guru, great film) and hubby commented on someone having a ski rack on their car and I said 'what are they doing with a ski rack at this time of year'.... doh! Hell, it FEELS like summer and I keep forgetting it's January (or was yesterday). I doubt they've even got any artificial snow up at Big Bear right now. But on an exciting note, long range forecast says we're going to get some rain next sunday. I'm not holding my breath tho. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 15:53:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:53:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: my heart's bleeding for them (telemarketers) References: <3E3AEE04.2D4CC17C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 07:32:27 -0800, Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> They've turned to filling up my answering machine with useless > get-rich-quick >> and frea-vacation crap.. screw them. > > I've never had one leave a message on my machine. We're unlisted and don't > get very many and I've managed to tell most of them to put us on a do not > call list so luckily we get at most one every two weeks. I was plagued by > AT&T for a while after I dropped them but eventually they got the message > and stopped calling. I used to get those all the time. Although, I haven't gotten one for a while. The no-call list must have finally kicked in for my number. But those were horribly annoying, the messages always went on for a few minutes. My machine is kind of old and crappy, so fast forwarding is sort of a pain, so I always went somewhere else in the house while it played itself out. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:12:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:12:22 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1goeb$2sj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > > > > Terrible thing but statistically it was probably overdue. Looks like it > was catastrophic and instantaneous. I doubt there's any chance of them > getting out alive. I see it broke up over TX. Terrible shame. I wonder > how this will impact the shuttle programme. > > I agree, it was terrible. I feel a deep sense of loss (not just because I'm a Trekkie), but I can't help thinking the same thought over and over again....it happens. I think everybody keeps losing touch of the fact that space travel is the most dangerous form of transportation in existance, and 17 years with no major accidents is one hell of a good record. The shuttle fleet is getting old, I wonder if this accident will convince Nasa to rush completion of whichever X-shuttle that's supposed to replace our current ones. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:19:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:19:51 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: my heart's bleeding for them (telemarketers) References: <3E3AEE04.2D4CC17C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.01.15.53.07.233759@sneakemail.com... > I used to get those all the time. Although, I haven't gotten one for a > while. The no-call list must have finally kicked in for my number. But > those were horribly annoying, the messages always went on for a few > minutes. My machine is kind of old and crappy, so fast forwarding is sort > of a pain, so I always went somewhere else in the house while it played > itself out. I always got a live person and the last call I had I said the word 'damn' and she said 'ma'm, there's no need to cuss'. LOL. I apologised and asked to speak to her supervisor. That finally got the message through. I don't consider 'damn' to be a cuss word but I guess she didn't deserve that - she was only doing her job. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:21:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:21:26 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Not Me" wrote in message news:b1f9j9$aep$3@news.spamcop.net... > | > > | > You must have been a riot on a car date!! > | > | LOL. To be fair, I was not even a teenager by the time I learnt the real > | meaning of the word. > | > | > > A child prodigy, just precocious or down right wanton? I don't consider the word 'scruples' to be that extraordinary a word for a 12 yr old's vocabulary. I did read quite a bit by that age, my mother was a walking dictionary and I was most definitely not 'wanton'! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:18:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:18:16 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1gv57$781$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I agree, it was terrible. I feel a deep sense of loss (not just because I'm > a Trekkie), but I can't help thinking the same thought over and over > again....it happens. I think everybody keeps losing touch of the fact that > space travel is the most dangerous form of transportation in existance, and > 17 years with no major accidents is one hell of a good record. The shuttle > fleet is getting old, I wonder if this accident will convince Nasa to rush > completion of whichever X-shuttle that's supposed to replace our current > ones. I'm sure this will discourage any 'space tourists' from handing over their $$ for some time to come. We're so used to these missions appearing 'routine' and of course they aren't. I feel badly for the families who were probably watching the whole thing unfold. I can't even imagine how that feels. Actually, probably rather like watching the 9/11 attacks - surreal, disbelief, it's on TV so it's not real. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:25:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:25:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1ff4c$d07$2@news.spamcop.net... > Two psooble reasons: > > [1] I didn't say *where* I found it in Roget's Thesaurus. > It isn't where you would first think to look. Unfortunately I don't have a printed thesaurus but I suspect you've looked in the front few pages where you get a description of the book for classification purposes etc. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:23:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:23:06 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.01.02.49.21.525904@sneakemail.com... > Do you remember her Christmas special a few years ago (the one where she > had the rent-a-family) and she almost decked Miss Piggy because she wasn't > making the pecan pie right, or the holiday decorations, or whatever it was > that they were making. Umm, Martha, that's a muppet, they are fun, they > don't cook. Just fricking calm down. Are you sure she wasn't just 'acting up', it being Miss Piggy and all? I'm happy to say I've never watched a Martha Stewart show or anything. I saw five minutes of her once and she was SO boring I couldn't understand why anyone likes her! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:23:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:23:56 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1fd2b$c9a$1@news.spamcop.net... > **That was one of my favorite ones - they were making cut out cookies, and > there were several sizes stacked on top of each other, and she had all these > cookie cutters in various sizes. As she put one cookie on top of another, > she asked Miss Piggy "Do you know what that's called? Miss Piggy calmly > replied "OBSESSIVE???" Went RIGHT over her head. LOL LOL.. I do love Miss Piggy's humour (or whoever it is that does 'her'). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:31:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:31:54 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Indi's an old fart (was 'oh great like I needed more bad news...') Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1eqv7$124$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1ejv2$qu5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > ****I WILL NOT!!! You take that back, missy..... > >:-E > > > > I guess he's older than I thought ;o) > > > **I"m sure it's no more than three or four years, IIRC..... don't forget, > he's in denial.... ;) Yeah, I thought he was early 30s so about 10 yrs younger than you but perhaps he's closer to 38... or 40 (hehehe) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:27:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:27:33 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1fftd$d07$3@news.spamcop.net... > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > >Another word is synonymy but that doesn't fit his description (9 letters, > >repetitions etc). > > Are you sure that you wouldn't like to count tat again? Doh! I thought *you'd* said 9 letters. Then I guess synonymy is correct. In that case, I claim the prize. What is it? LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:29:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:29:27 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1fgjf$ec1$1@news.spamcop.net... > ***Unfortunately, the stupid old hag is still in business, the only > "punishment" she's ever received is a suspension by the AKC for falsifying > pedigrees. AKC=Completely Useless... The conditions at her place were > deplorable, little or no food, when the bitch and her litter of puppies were > rescued they all had rickets, giardia, every kind of worm and parasite you > can imagine. I kept asking why cruelty charges were never brought, and was > told "it's Missouri"... Why doesn't the local humane society/animal cops get her shut down? That's ridiculous! They don't care about animals in Missouri? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:27:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:27:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Indi's an old fart (was 'oh great like I needed more bad news...') References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h065$806$1@news.spamcop.net... > Yeah, I thought he was early 30s so about 10 yrs younger than you but > perhaps he's closer to 38... or 40 (hehehe) > **Hmmm...IIRC that "big number" was a year or two ago...and he's got a birthday coming up in a couple of weeks...expect him to be in a *very* bad mood.. ;) Me...well, call me Cleopatra..... LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:38:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 09:38:15 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Indi's an old fart (was 'oh great like I needed more bad news...') References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h0ci$84a$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1h065$806$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yeah, I thought he was early 30s so about 10 yrs younger than you but > > perhaps he's closer to 38... or 40 (hehehe) > > > **Hmmm...IIRC that "big number" was a year or two ago...and he's got a > birthday coming up in a couple of weeks...expect him to be in a *very* bad > mood.. ;) > > Me...well, call me Cleopatra..... LOL Whoa, are you sure? Hell, he's really an old fart heheheheheheh I was sure he was younger than me. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:41:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:41:48 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gvih$7l6$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I don't consider the word 'scruples' to be that extraordinary a word for > a 12 yr old's vocabulary. I did read quite a bit by that age, my mother > was a walking dictionary and I was most definitely not 'wanton'! > **methinks thou dost protest too much...LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:40:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:40:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h01j$7v6$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Why doesn't the local humane society/animal cops get her shut down? > That's ridiculous! They don't care about animals in Missouri? > **Missouri and Kansas are states where puppy mills thrive, they get their USDA licenses and they're good to go. No one inspects, no one gives a rats ass, if they have a license they're legal. The government even grants them money, yet another appalling waste of tax dollars: http://www.thevoicefordogs.org/hunte-funding.shtml http://www.thevoicefordogs.org/hunte-pfizer.shtml http://www.thedogplace.com/hotnews/side_effects-04.asp http://www.critterhaven.org/partners.htm#hunte Reading the truckdriver comments here makes me want to barf. Their supposed to be heroes for noticing sick puppies on their trucks and "nursing them back to health"...so they can sell them in a pet store....If they were sick in the truck maybe they shouldn't have been there.. GRR..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:46:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:46:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > The Challenger anniversary was only four days ago, I remembe hearing about the Christa McAuliffe planetarium and thinking how lucky we were to have not had another accident like that since. Sigh. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:48:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:48:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "John E. Malmberg" wrote in message news:b1et15$2eq$1@news.spamcop.net... > No, you should not do any damage at all. This could cause you problems. **Actually, I have to agree with you. I really believe that if you deliberately do evil things for the purpose of hurting someone, the bad karma will come screaming back to haunt you. I would HATE, however, to have HIS karma.....oooh, he's in for it. > > Now can you find some underwear that is obviously not yours or hers, > maybe with a monogram or a name embroidered? > > By now you should know who will be doing the cleaning. Especially under > things. > ***LOL..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:52:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:52:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > Going to move either way. She hasn't set a date yet.. but looks like it is > either this summer or fall. (Personally, I would still rather elope and save the > money. :-)) > **Ditto that - have you been watching Bridezilla? I missed it but I heard some people talking about it on the radio and they said it was absolutely horrifying what these women turned into. Not to scare you or anything..... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:49:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:49:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gpe0$3ep$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Hmm... that's evil but clever. I'll store that one away for future use > LOL > ***Poor Hubby...he better keep his nose clean.... LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:50:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:50:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gpk4$3le$2@news.spamcop.net... > > And of course she should retain a key and deposit these undies a month > or two after she's moved out to avoid any confusion heheheh **and maybe leave a pair or two in HIS size as well......eww. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 18:01:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:01:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >"Guy Macon" wrote in message >news:b1ff4c$d07$2@news.spamcop.net... >> >> [1] I didn't say *where* I found it in Roget's Thesaurus. >> It isn't where you would first think to look. > >Unfortunately I don't have a printed thesaurus but I suspect you've >looked in the front few pages where you get a description of the book >for classification purposes etc. Yes. >From the Preface to Roget’s International Thesaurus, 1922 edition: "Apart from the scientific and logical arrangement the distinguishing feature of Roget is the inclusion of phrases. No other ******** gives anything but individual words." From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 17:58:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:58:41 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gp20$39p$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yes, sure was. Not only was it valuable but it had sentimental value > too. I took it quite calmly and philosophically which surprised even me. > **One of my mother's "beaus" before she was married, a rich kid who was going to school at Phillips Exeter, gave her a humongous emerald shaped aquamarine and diamond ring - he refused to take it back after they stopped seeing each other, he wanted her to keep it. She did for quite a few years, until my a$$hole father decided to raise chinchillas as 'retirement income' (disaster, don't ask), and she took it off to clean the cages and lost it, she thinks she rolled it up in the newspaper and threw it out. We were all sick over that, it was a gorgeous ring. Better than anything my father ever bought her, which pisses her off even more! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 18:21:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:21:57 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:23:06 -0800, Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Are you sure she wasn't just 'acting up', it being Miss Piggy and all? > I'm happy to say I've never watched a Martha Stewart show or anything. I > saw five minutes of her once and she was SO boring I couldn't understand > why anyone likes her! Yeah, I'm sure it was scripted to be funny, but I don't think Martha could pull it off. You could tell she was getting really irritated with Miss Piggy for messing up the all important gingerbread houses. I can see my Kathy Lee Gifford choice was a good one. I was looking for something about Miss Piggy's appearance with Martha and I ran across the death match between the two. That might simplify things for me. http://www.grudge-match.com/History/stew_giff.shtml There seems to be a lot of pent up anger towards the two of them. Some of the comments were pretty funny. Some of my favorites: "Martha Stewart always talks down to her guests, no matter who they are. She pulled attitude on Miss Piggy fercrissake! How low does your self-esteem have to be to be demeaning to a puppet? Kathie Lee always sucks up to her guests, no matter who they are. Hell, she'd kiss Howard Stern's ass if he were ever to get booked on Live! It is clear that KLG is sure of herself and her place in this world. " " she'll bring out the potpourri (whatever the hell that is). No one can face the horror that is potpourri!" "During my time at K-mart (referred to in the Bible as 'hell') I had to do returns. MOST of these were Martha Stewart bath room crap. Since I spent so much time doing this, I have a personal grudge against the bitch. Also, apparently everybody realized after paying for her products how crappy they were, and returned them immediately." "Kathie Lee has one major advantage: A full alliance with Martha Stewart's family. Stewart's family hates Martha, didn't you notice? Her children hate her and she got a divorce because she tries to control everthing! Before the match begins, Martha's family storms the ring in a giant cloud of dust, and, when the dust clears, Martha is found lying neatly on the ring floor sans intestines. Not a difficult one for Kathie, if you ask me." "Kathie Lee may be one whiney brat, but she's no fighter. Martha Stew- Em-Alive, however, is the QUEEN of MEAN. She backed over a gardner! She used to slap the help around! She's the Devil's Interior Decorator!! Kathie (and hopefully her two misbegotten brats) are toast!" "Um ... where's the button for 'Both Mangled and Killed'?" "Kathie Lee dead. It's a good thing." From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:04:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:04:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h178$8ju$1@news.spamcop.net... > Reading the truckdriver comments here makes me want to barf. Their supposed > to be heroes for noticing sick puppies on their trucks and "nursing them > back to health"...so they can sell them in a pet store....If they were sick > in the truck maybe they shouldn't have been there.. GRR..... Seems to me that the truck drivers are kind hearted but clueless. Apparently it doesn't occur to them that they're part of a production line whose product is a living animal. This Hunte company must be producing literally thousands of dogs a year which is irresponsible. They should be taxed an additional amount on top to cover all the pets they're doing out of a home by supplying these ill-bred and sickly specimens. I guess there isn't a federal law to prohibit this kind of dealer but there should be. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:08:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:08:41 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h1gg$8mv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > > > The Challenger anniversary was only four days ago, I remembe hearing about > the Christa McAuliffe planetarium and thinking how lucky we were to have not > had another accident like that since. Sigh. I was just reading the BBC News article about it and this leaves them with only 3 shuttles which doesn't seem to me like enough for an ongoing space program. Methinks some tough decisions are coming - like whether or not to build another clone of current shuttles or accelerate development of something new. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:11:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:11:13 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h1mb$8op$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1gpe0$3ep$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Hmm... that's evil but clever. I'll store that one away for future use > > LOL > > > ***Poor Hubby...he better keep his nose clean.... LOL Hell yeah! Anyone who crosses paths with me better do the same! Actually, now I think about it most of the electrical items dearest to his heart don't have 'attached' power cables but those ones that you plug into the back of the appliance... bummer.. LOL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:19:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:19:36 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: <3E3823D1.4030905@online.no> <3E38AF84.3040109@online.no> <3E398681.9060609@online.no> <3E3ADFFF.6010706@online.no> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1h22c$92n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > >"Guy Macon" wrote in message > >news:b1ff4c$d07$2@news.spamcop.net... > > >> > >> [1] I didn't say *where* I found it in Roget's Thesaurus. > >> It isn't where you would first think to look. > > > >Unfortunately I don't have a printed thesaurus but I suspect you've > >looked in the front few pages where you get a description of the book > >for classification purposes etc. > > Yes. > > From the Preface to Roget's International Thesaurus, 1922 edition: > > "Apart from the scientific and logical arrangement the distinguishing > feature of Roget is the inclusion of phrases. No other ******** gives > anything but individual words." Well we've already decided that the word is 'synonymy' haven't we? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:18:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:18:34 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h29s$98d$1@news.spamcop.net... > **One of my mother's "beaus" before she was married, a rich kid who was > going to school at Phillips Exeter, gave her a humongous emerald shaped > aquamarine and diamond ring - he refused to take it back after they stopped > seeing each other, he wanted her to keep it. She did for quite a few years, > until my a$$hole father decided to raise chinchillas as 'retirement income' > (disaster, don't ask), and she took it off to clean the cages and lost it, > she thinks she rolled it up in the newspaper and threw it out. We were all > sick over that, it was a gorgeous ring. Better than anything my father ever > bought her, which pisses her off even more! LOL@raising chinchillas for retirement income. Is he a crackpot or something? That's a sad loss for sure. Probably at the bottom of a long-decomposed rubbish tip. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:16:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:16:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h1rq$92h$1@news.spamcop.net... > **Ditto that - have you been watching Bridezilla? I missed it but I heard > some people talking about it on the radio and they said it was absolutely > horrifying what these women turned into. Not to scare you or anything..... > ;) What was that show all about? I didn't quite grasp the concept from the trailer I saw and I missed the show as I was watching something else. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:15:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:15:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1h1o0$91h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1gpk4$3le$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > And of course she should retain a key and deposit these undies a month > > or two after she's moved out to avoid any confusion heheheh > > **and maybe leave a pair or two in HIS size as well......eww. hahahah... or men's undies not in his size - a big honkin' pair of Y fronts, just to introduce some doubt as to his sexuality Did I ever tell the story of a former roommate of mine back in the 80s? One day he forgot his key - left it in his room - and I did him the favour of getting a copy of it from the landlord while he was at work. I opened the door so that he'd be able to get in there when he got home and noticed a pair of women's undies poking out of the drawer. This was too much to resist (and I had to make sure they weren't mine!) so I opened the drawer to find it was full of various different sizes and styles of women's undergarments and worst of all............. some of them had SKID MARKS on them!!! AAAAAAGHGHGHGGHGHG! Suffice to say, my suspicions as to his weirdness were confirmed that day. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:22:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:22:31 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.01.18.21.56.831705@sneakemail.com... > "Kathie Lee may be one whiney brat, but she's no fighter. Martha Stew- > Em-Alive, however, is the QUEEN of MEAN. She backed over a gardner! She > used to slap the help around! She's the Devil's Interior Decorator!! > Kathie (and hopefully her two misbegotten brats) are toast!" Was it Martha who raised a big stink over some bus using her driveway to turn around or something? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 19:25:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:25:25 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Borgholio wrote: >I agree, it was terrible. I feel a deep sense of loss (not just because I'm >a Trekkie), but I can't help thinking the same thought over and over >again....it happens. I think everybody keeps losing touch of the fact that >space travel is the most dangerous form of transportation in existance, and >17 years with no major accidents is one hell of a good record. The shuttle >fleet is getting old, I wonder if this accident will convince Nasa to rush >completion of whichever X-shuttle that's supposed to replace our current >ones. I was working as a design engineer for am aerospace company after the Challenger disaster. One of my projects was testing the redesigned disconnect between the externla tank and the shuutle. NASA decided to address a bunch of minor problems in subsystems that weren't part of the failed system, just to be sure. We knew, however, that we needed to make a replacement for the shuttles. Among those of us who worked on the shuttle, two figures drove our efforts; $10,000 a pound to put material in orbit. 1-in-500 chance of a deadly catastrophe onb each flight. We could have already reduced this to $1,000 a pound and 1-in-10,000. Instead we are seeing Russian Soyuz rockets carrying humans into space at $20 million per mission with a better safety record than NASA's $600 million-per-flight U.S. Space Shuttle, and we have seen our share of the world’s launch marketshare drop from 48% in 1996 to 29% in 2000. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:33:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sherrl Kite) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 13:33:04 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: I would sincerely hope that they rethink the whole program. Especially since it seemed it was 'over-due'. My thoughts and sympathies are with the families. I can't help but feel anger that the statistic's were ignored and development of improvements or more testing wasn't implemented. I don't know why I feel so angry that those poor astronauts lost their lives, maybe because this is the 2nd shuttle tragedy? I just can't explain it, but I do have some strong emotions swimming about over it all. I'm a simple mind just trying to wrap my brain around it. As Syl wrote, it seems so surreal when watching it on TV. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:36:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:36:54 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3C3DF6.57740B51@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. Was watching throughout this morning. Un-freakin-believable. And it was on landing approach too. Watch yourself for anything strange that lands in your backyard. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:48:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:48:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Guy Macon wrote: > > > I was working as a design engineer for am aerospace company after the > Challenger disaster. One of my projects was testing the redesigned > disconnect between the externla tank and the shuutle. NASA decided > to address a bunch of minor problems in subsystems that weren't part > of the failed system, just to be sure. We knew, however, that we > needed to make a replacement for the shuttles. > Read any of Richard Feynman's books? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:46:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:46:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Guy Macon wrote: > > I was working as a design engineer for am aerospace company after the > Challenger disaster. One of my projects was testing the redesigned > disconnect between the externla tank and the shuutle. NASA decided > to address a bunch of minor problems in subsystems that weren't part > of the failed system, just to be sure. We knew, however, that we > needed to make a replacement for the shuttles. > > Among those of us who worked on the shuttle, two figures drove our > efforts; > > $10,000 a pound to put material in orbit. > > 1-in-500 chance of a deadly catastrophe onb each flight. > > We could have already reduced this to $1,000 a pound and 1-in-10,000. > Instead we are seeing Russian Soyuz rockets carrying humans into space > at $20 million per mission with a better safety record than NASA's > $600 million-per-flight U.S. Space Shuttle, and we have seen our > share of the world’s launch marketshare drop from 48% in 1996 to > 29% in 2000. Mind you that there is a difference of what payloads the Russian boosters can carry up there vs. the shuttle. (The big difference being that the shuttle crew is up there when the payload is being deployed.. so if anything goes wrong, there is someone there to fix it.) Going to have to wait to see what the investigation brings in. This may not even be an issue of a design flaw but just something was not in place at proper time. This is so annoying. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:54:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:54:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: my heart's bleeding for them (telemarketers) References: <3E3AEE04.2D4CC17C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C4209.14BB304D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > I always got a live person and the last call I had I said the word > 'damn' and she said 'ma'm, there's no need to cuss'. LOL. I apologised > and asked to speak to her supervisor. That finally got the message > through. I don't consider 'damn' to be a cuss word but I guess she > didn't deserve that - she was only doing her job. Thats because it usually is followed by several other 4-letter expletives. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:52:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:52:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EC44.AC6D1EB4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA88.803660A8@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C41AE.64DCFC0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > > **Since they reprinted my business cards... apparently they didn't like the > title I put on , "Office Queen"... ;) Did you carry a scepter and go "Off with his head!"? :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:50:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:50:26 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C4122.26EDAE96@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > That's pretty much what we did. Total cost around $250 LOL. No stress, > cliffs above the bay in Santa Barbara, only bro in law in attendance. We > rented a white Beetle as they'd only just come on the scene back then. And put the money you would have spend for a downpayment for a house. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:51:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:51:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C414D.3824396B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Heidi" wrote in message > news:b1h1rq$92h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > **Ditto that - have you been watching Bridezilla? I missed it but I > heard > > some people talking about it on the radio and they said it was > absolutely > > horrifying what these women turned into. Not to scare you or > anything..... > > ;) > > What was that show all about? I didn't quite grasp the concept from the > trailer I saw and I missed the show as I was watching something else. I missed it entirely.. Isn't it supposed to take pretty women and make them hideous or something? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:52:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:52:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > > > > ? He's not that hairy.. not from what I saw with his shots galavanting in > > Hawaii. (That lucky bum) :-) > > > **How do you know his lucky bum's not hairy? Didn't you see the pictures he temporarily put up showing the fun he was having in Hawaii? (I'm envious.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 21:51:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 16:51:42 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E3AE9AE.4A72B20E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3C416E.5A893CA5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > he's laughing in Spanish > I thought he fell asleep at the keyboard. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:10:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Robert Chapin) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:10:40 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: I watched it realtime on NASA TV when it happened.. They were talking about loss of some sensors on the landing gear and tire pressure, then they lost telementry and voice comm. 15 mins later they went nuts and declared a emergency... It sure didnt look like the scene from Apollo 13.. They were all calm about it, but i know that they were raging inside about it.. rc From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:18:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:18:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EC44.AC6D1EB4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA88.803660A8@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C41AE.64DCFC0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C41AE.64DCFC0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > **Since they reprinted my business cards... apparently they didn't like the > > title I put on , "Office Queen"... ;) > > Did you carry a scepter and go "Off with his head!"? :-) > ***No, a sharp letter opener and threats of gelding..... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:17:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:17:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > Didn't you see the pictures he temporarily put up showing the fun he was having > in Hawaii? (I'm envious.) :-) > **I must have missed the x-rated page, I never saw his bum on there.. ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:23:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:23:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h649$bkg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Actually, now I think about it most of the electrical items dearest to > his heart don't have 'attached' power cables but those ones that you > plug into the back of the appliance... bummer.. LOL > **A little spilled coke, like accidentally, might actually "fix" things... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:22:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:22:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h6i2$bul$1@news.spamcop.net... > > LOL@raising chinchillas for retirement income. Is he a crackpot or > something? That's a sad loss for sure. Probably at the bottom of a > long-decomposed rubbish tip. > **Oh yeah, it was a big scam in the 70's and he bought right into it, you were supposed to raise the animals at home and then ship them back to be slaughtered for fur coats (imagine howI felt about that....) and got paid for the pelts. They were cute little buggers. The scam was you invested in the equipment and the breeding stock and then suddenly when you sent the animals back they arrived "dead". When he found out he'd been scammed, one day all the chinchillas in the garage disappeared, and I think he took them all out to the woods and shot them or killed them, don't really know how. Yes, what a happy childhood I had, first the pet lamb and then the chinchillas.... :-( From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:26:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:26:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h6ed$bu7$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> What was that show all about? I didn't quite grasp the concept from the > trailer I saw and I missed the show as I was watching something else. > **It was about how crazy women get before their weddings, they get so crazy and so manic and so out of control they turn into monsters - literally. I wished I seen the whole thing, it looked pretty scary. Any guy thinking of getting married might have been a bit put off...... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:24:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:24:19 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h6ch$bmk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Did I ever tell the story of a former roommate of mine back in the 80s? > One day he forgot his key - left it in his room - and I did him the > favour of getting a copy of it from the landlord while he was at work. I > opened the door so that he'd be able to get in there when he got home > and noticed a pair of women's undies poking out of the drawer. This was > too much to resist (and I had to make sure they weren't mine!) so I > opened the drawer to find it was full of various different sizes and > styles of women's undergarments and worst of all............. some of > them had SKID MARKS on them!!! AAAAAAGHGHGHGGHGHG! Suffice to say, my > suspicions as to his weirdness were confirmed that day. > ***Eww... well, at least they weren't yours...how long did he last? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:25:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:25:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1h5od$b8n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Seems to me that the truck drivers are kind hearted but clueless. > Apparently it doesn't occur to them that they're part of a production > line whose product is a living animal. This Hunte company must be > producing literally thousands of dogs a year which is irresponsible. > They should be taxed an additional amount on top to cover all the pets > they're doing out of a home by supplying these ill-bred and sickly > specimens. I guess there isn't a federal law to prohibit this kind of > dealer but there should be. > **The feds support them! Good old USDA approved. They probably get big tax breaks on volume.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:35:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:35:34 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: I think annoying is a bit of an understatement. Personally, that has affected me far more than September 11th did. Chris "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Mind you that there is a difference of what payloads the Russian boosters can > carry up there vs. the shuttle. (The big difference being that the shuttle crew > is up there when the payload is being deployed.. so if anything goes wrong, there > is someone there to fix it.) > > Going to have to wait to see what the investigation brings in. This may not even > be an issue of a design flaw but just something was not in place at proper time. > > This is so annoying. > > > > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:26:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:26:58 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C414D.3824396B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C414D.3824396B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > I missed it entirely.. Isn't it supposed to take pretty women and make them > hideous or something? > *Yeah, and then you have to *marry* her....LOL... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:33:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:33:28 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Here, check this out: http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/currentmail.html#prizes and http://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/gettospace.html Chris "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1gv57$781$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b1goeb$2sj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > > news:b1gn59$231$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. > > > > > > > Terrible thing but statistically it was probably overdue. Looks like it > > was catastrophic and instantaneous. I doubt there's any chance of them > > getting out alive. I see it broke up over TX. Terrible shame. I wonder > > how this will impact the shuttle programme. > > > > > > I agree, it was terrible. I feel a deep sense of loss (not just because I'm > a Trekkie), but I can't help thinking the same thought over and over > again....it happens. I think everybody keeps losing touch of the fact that > space travel is the most dangerous form of transportation in existance, and > 17 years with no major accidents is one hell of a good record. The shuttle > fleet is getting old, I wonder if this accident will convince Nasa to rush > completion of whichever X-shuttle that's supposed to replace our current > ones. > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:29:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:29:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gok6$2tq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Excellent, a marathon to boot! I hope it's not the one I bought when in > England.... > **What did you buy in England? I think this might have been the last series, Caroline Quentin was pregnant in real life, I think, and they had to write it in. I dont think she did any more of that after, but I could be wrong. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:36:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:36:32 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: Wasn't he the one that discovered the problem with the 'O' Rings? Chris "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Guy Macon wrote: > > > > > > > I was working as a design engineer for am aerospace company after the > > Challenger disaster. One of my projects was testing the redesigned > > disconnect between the externla tank and the shuutle. NASA decided > > to address a bunch of minor problems in subsystems that weren't part > > of the failed system, just to be sure. We knew, however, that we > > needed to make a replacement for the shuttles. > > > > Read any of Richard Feynman's books? > > > > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:40:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:40:22 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Well, IMHO, the space program hasn't been anything 'sexy' for politicians to invest much into.. So.. it ends up getting the short end of the proverbial budget stick. However, I also don't think it's been entirely ignored either. They have too much invested already to do that. Now, I don't have any hard evidence but I don't believe that really have anything in the works to follow on the shuttle. From what I've read the shuttles were originally designed in the 1970s.. but weren't really deployed until the 80s. Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. :) Chris "Sherrl Kite" wrote in message news:b1hecn$gim$1@news.spamcop.net... > I would sincerely hope that they rethink the whole program. Especially > since it seemed it was 'over-due'. My thoughts and sympathies are with the > families. I can't help but feel anger that the statistic's were ignored and > development of improvements or more testing wasn't implemented. I don't > know why I feel so angry that those poor astronauts lost their lives, maybe > because this is the 2nd shuttle tragedy? I just can't explain it, but I do > have some strong emotions swimming about over it all. I'm a simple mind > just trying to wrap my brain around it. As Syl wrote, it seems so surreal > when watching it on TV. > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:41:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 14:41:13 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Is that over the 'net or on cable TV? Chris "Robert Chapin" wrote in message news:b1hgl1$ijc$1@news.spamcop.net... > I watched it realtime on NASA TV when it happened.. They were talking about > loss of some sensors on the landing gear and tire pressure, then they lost > telementry and voice comm. 15 mins later they went nuts and declared a > emergency... It sure didnt look like the scene from Apollo 13.. They were > all calm about it, but i know that they were raging inside about it.. > > rc > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 22:54:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:54:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] To lighten up things today Message-ID: The World of Dancing Cats=20 http://www.monpa.com/dwc/world.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:40:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:40:04 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1hhs3$j97$1@news.spamcop.net... > ***Eww... well, at least they weren't yours...how long did he last? > Apart from that weirdness, he was the perfect roommate. He paid his share of the rent and I rarely if ever saw or heard him so he was around for a while (about 5 years). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:37:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:37:06 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4122.26EDAE96@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C4122.26EDAE96@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > And put the money you would have spend for a downpayment for a house. :-) Actually as we already had a house (in England) it went on a car instead. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:33:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:33:14 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C3DF6.57740B51@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. | | Was watching throughout this morning. Un-freakin-believable. And it was on | landing approach too. | | Watch yourself for anything strange that lands in your backyard. Maulder and Skully (spl?) knocking on the front door as well? I was not watching but my dog was a bit spooked by the boom (I'm guessing as my hearing is not that good). The news folk who have been on site in East Texas are talking about people who are grabbing parts as keepsakes (or in hopes of turning a profit). Early this AM there were shuttle parts up on ebay. (NASA had that pulled) Seems to be a credible HASMAT risk as anyone who has been in contact with the stuff is quickly sent to the hospital. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:36:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:36:20 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > Read any of Richard Feynman's books? I did! And the book of his life written by someone else which I've forgotten the name of now. (Ah, found it: Genius by James Gleick). I saw a BBC Horizon (think Nova) programme about him back in the 80s (shortly before he died) and I was entranced by him. I commented to hubby this morning 'they don't have Richard Feynman on the case this time'. I hope that doesn't mean they won't solve it expediently. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:38:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:38:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1hhoe$j4c$1@news.spamcop.net... > **Oh yeah, it was a big scam in the 70's and he bought right into it, you > were supposed to raise the animals at home and then ship them back to be > slaughtered for fur coats (imagine howI felt about that....) and got paid > for the pelts. They were cute little buggers. The scam was you invested in > the equipment and the breeding stock and then suddenly when you sent the > animals back they arrived "dead". When he found out he'd been scammed, one > day all the chinchillas in the garage disappeared, and I think he took them > all out to the woods and shot them or killed them, don't really know how. > Yes, what a happy childhood I had, first the pet lamb and then the > chinchillas.... :-( Should we call you Clarice? I don't see the problem of a dead chinchilla if it was going to be killed for its fur anyway but I wouldn't have stood still for him doing that anyway! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:36:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:36:53 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | **It was about how crazy women get before their weddings, they get so crazy | and so manic and so out of control they turn into monsters - literally. I | wished I seen the whole thing, it looked pretty scary. Any guy thinking of | getting married might have been a bit put off...... | My wife was the essence of calm. My mother and mother-in-law where another matter entirely. My wife had three key phrases: 'Yes', 'No' and 'It's my wedding' end of story. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:40:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:40:20 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: |> some of them had SKID MARKS on them!!! AAAAAAGHGHGHGGHGHG! | > | ***Eww... well, at least they weren't yours...how long did he last? Do your *really* want an answer to that question? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:40:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:40:30 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dog lovers -- Darwin Award finalist! References: <3E338133.494137CE@rye.net> <3E347978.DCDB70F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1hhs3$j97$2@news.spamcop.net... > **The feds support them! Good old USDA approved. They probably get big tax > breaks on volume.... That's just insanity! Who makes up these rules? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:50:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:50:04 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message news:b1hibj$jj8$1@news.spamcop.net... > However, I also don't think it's been entirely ignored either. They have > too much invested already to do that. Now, I don't have any hard evidence > but I don't believe that really have anything in the works to follow on the > shuttle. From what I've read the shuttles were originally designed in the > 1970s.. but weren't really deployed until the 80s. Someone feel free to > correct me if I am wrong. :) Designed in the 60s even. These things have a long lead time. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:45:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:45:38 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1hi3u$jaf$1@news.spamcop.net... > **What did you buy in England? I think this might have been the last > series, Caroline Quentin was pregnant in real life, I think, and they had to > write it in. I dont think she did any more of that after, but I could be > wrong. It had 3 episodes on it I think. One was a business trip to some seaside town where the others all came along. Gary and Tony stole a fiberglass landmark (big fish) and took it to the room. The maid found out and to keep her quiet they were giving away the girls' clothes. Another was about Gary and Dorothy trying to make a baby and I think he kept renting porn tapes and 'practicing' on his own instead of with Dorothy. The last was where Tony becomes a postie and is very boring so Debs wants to dump him and the office is closing but Gary has trouble telling the staff. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:48:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:48:54 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message news:b1hi4d$jaj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Wasn't he the one that discovered the problem with the 'O' Rings? Yes. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 1 23:47:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:47:58 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message news:b1hi2j$j9u$1@news.spamcop.net... > I think annoying is a bit of an understatement. Personally, that has > affected me far more than September 11th did. Good grief! I don't think anything could affect me as much as 9/11 did. Are you personally involved in this in some way? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 00:10:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 16:10:52 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Shuttle debris on Ebay Message-ID: http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&quer y=Shuttle+debris&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&curr disp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&srchdesc=y&BasicSearch= yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 00:55:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:55:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: In news:b1hnlo$n7e$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed: > = http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DGetResult= &quer > = y=3DShuttle+debris&cgiurl=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=3D1&from= =3DR10&curr > = disp=3D2&itemtimedisp=3D1&st=3D2&SortProperty=3DMetaEndSort&srchdesc=3Dy&= BasicSearch=3D >=20 > yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine for = posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster than flies. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 01:07:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:07:05 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b1hqak$ogt$1@news.spamcop.net... In news:b1hnlo$n7e$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed: > http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&quer > y=Shuttle+debris&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&curr > disp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&srchdesc=y&BasicSearch= > > yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine for posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster >than flies. I believe it. Every time I log on there is a different set of ads. I wonder why there's a fine for posessing part of the debris? I know that each piece will help solve the mystery, but is that the only reason? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 01:17:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 20:17:59 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: In news:b1hqv5$p1d$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed: > "YK" wrote in message > news:b1hqak$ogt$1@news.spamcop.net... In > news:b1hnlo$n7e$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed:=20 >>=20 > = http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=3DGetResult= &quer >>=20 > = y=3DShuttle+debris&cgiurl=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=3D1&from= =3DR10&curr >>=20 > = disp=3D2&itemtimedisp=3D1&st=3D2&SortProperty=3DMetaEndSort&srchdesc=3Dy&= BasicSearch=3D >>=20 >> yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >=20 >> From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine >> for=20 > posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster >than flies. >=20 > I believe it. Every time I log on there is a different set of ads. I > wonder why there's a fine for posessing part of the debris? I know > that each piece will help solve the mystery, but is that the only > reason?=20 The fine is if you keep the piece and not turn it in. From what I see = on CNN they clamed the debris is covered with deadly toxins so they = could be hazardous to your health as well as your wallet. But there = are a few sickos out there. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 02:10:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:10:17 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: No, however while that event affected me as well.. It also didn't really suprise me. This on the other hand, did. Plus, I've always been somewhat of a space junkie. :-) Both the scifi stuff and the real stuff. Physics, spacecraft and whatnot. Chris "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1hmb5$mf6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message > news:b1hi2j$j9u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I think annoying is a bit of an understatement. Personally, that has > > affected me far more than September 11th did. > > Good grief! I don't think anything could affect me as much as 9/11 did. > Are you personally involved in this in some way? > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 02:06:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:06:24 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: You know.. I'm not buying their toxins story at all.. IMHO, anything on the parts would have burned off on reentry. Chris The fine is if you keep the piece and not turn it in. From what I see on CNN they clamed the debris is covered with deadly toxins so they could be hazardous to your health as well as your wallet. But there are a few sickos out there. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 02:11:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:11:10 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Yeesh, even older than I thought!! Chris "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1hmf4$mfu$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Designed in the 60s even. These things have a long lead time. > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 02:13:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:13:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: Apparently three of the astronauts were HAMs as well. (amateur radio operators) =( Chris "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1hmb5$mf6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message > news:b1hi2j$j9u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I think annoying is a bit of an understatement. Personally, that has > > affected me far more than September 11th did. > > Good grief! I don't think anything could affect me as much as 9/11 did. > Are you personally involved in this in some way? > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 03:01:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Richard Winder) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:01:05 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: > You know.. I'm not buying their toxins story at all.. IMHO, anything on the > parts would have burned off on reentry. No, not worth the risk. MMH is dangerous stuff. Trace quantities in certain mushrooms are enough to poison people that inhale the fumes during cooking. I'm not talking about consuming them- just breathing it in can do you harm. Fairly volatile stuff, but you could still expect trace quantities to remain on some of the parts, and it would be a heck of a lot more concentrated than an organic source. -RSW From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 03:41:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Blitz) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:41:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: http://www.space.com/news/challenger_wreckage_010128.html "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1hnlo$n7e$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&quer > y=Shuttle+debris&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&curr > disp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&srchdesc=y&BasicSearch= > > yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 04:08:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig Sturdivant) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 22:08:05 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1hqv5$p1d$1@news.spamcop.net... > I believe it. Every time I log on there is a different set of ads. I > wonder why there's a fine for posessing part of the debris? I know that > each piece will help solve the mystery, but is that the only reason? If it is real debris, then it is government property, and I thought that I heard on CNN that it was a felony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 06:04:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:04:16 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: > yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine for posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster than flies. Many talking heads on TV have stated that the fine is upwards of $200,000 and 10 years and there *will* be no leniency. I'm told that the Texas Rangers and a few other local police departments are taking name -- a** kickin comes later. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 06:08:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:08:51 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: | You know.. I'm not buying their toxins story at all.. IMHO, anything on the | parts would have burned off on reentry. | | Chris Don't know about that so much as in the mid '60s I worked with some folk who did the (rocket) engine test in Mississippi. They would not start the test if they were down wind even though the engine test jig and the control center were miles apart. This was long before HASMAT was even a twinkle in anyone's eye. (they were still spraying school kids with DDT to control mosquitoes) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 08:00:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: 02 Feb 2003 08:00:00 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: The shuttle had the first Israeli astronaut. The debris rained down on the Palestinians. You figure it out. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 06:40:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 00:40:30 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: | > Designed in the 60s even. These things have a long lead time. | > | Yeesh, even older than I thought!! | What's more impressive is the engine designs are basically the same since the early 1900's From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 07:20:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 01:20:29 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay C&C References: Message-ID: Not fair -- required C&C notice not present. (Palestine -- also small town in east Texas) | | The shuttle had the first Israeli astronaut. | | The debris rained down on the Palestinians. | | You figure it out. | | From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 08:16:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Baloo Ursidae) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <1044173813.740321@ursine.dyndns.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In spamcop.geeks Chris Willoughby wrote: > Is that over the 'net or on cable TV? AT&T Broadband subscribers that get the Portland local channels will find this on Ch. 99. Folks with a satellite dish[1] can point it at GE-2, transponder 9C, C-Band at 85 West longitude, tuned to 3880.0 MHz, with audio on 6.8 MHz. Everyone else check your channel lineup for NASA, NASATV, or NTV or hit http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Web.html for live stream mirrors. [1] A *real* one, not those miniature POS dishes that some people get expecting it to be better than cable, when it's really more channels of reruns with bad reception in storms... - -- .''`. Baloo : :' : proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PNPzNtWkM9Ny9xURAiDVAJ9ZcEQlUgW2kaGI6YdXSYxliw+5zwCeP+Ae VhswxI4BIGiUEmEHnLbPV5s= =2xvA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 10:05:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 02:05:39 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: Um, I don't think they had rocket fuel engines in 1900 ;-) Chris "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1ig60$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > | > Designed in the 60s even. These things have a long lead time. > | > > > > | Yeesh, even older than I thought!! > | > > What's more impressive is the engine designs are basically the same since > the early 1900's > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 13:39:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 08:39:31 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] 'bots on forum? Message-ID: The following shows you how naive I am and ignorant of Internet jargon. Also I should have set followups, but didn't think about it. A response to a post in .help said that "This makes me assume that you are not a 'bot but an actual human being." SikaSpam is not using 'bot literally, is he? I mean, he is using 'bot to refer to posters who seem to be rigid in their opinions or adhere to the most popular and most posted "party line." rather than meaning a real 'bot like the ones you get if you try to get help from someplace like McAfee. I have such a suspicious nature that I have sometimes wondered if all the posters are really different people or just the same person who assumes different persona just to keep the discussion going, but I don't think that any of the posts sound as if they are written by a true 'bot. Does this happen in other "help" forums? -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 13:51:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 13:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Sunday funnies Message-ID: Nothing from Saturday - it was lame beyond lame... But I bring you... Sunday! [On engineers] http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2003020522582.g if => http://tinyurl.com/584j [Harsh harsh harsh on the shrub!] http://graphics7.nytimes.com/images/2003/02/02/books/stamaty0202.jpg [Lassie! Get help!] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020203.gif [Art and artists...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030202.gif [Remember when you were 16?] http://dilbert.com/comics/monty/archive/images/monty2003020522582.gif [Just for Kerry] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030202.gif [For Kram ;)] http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030119.gif [Help desk heroes, again] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005220.gif From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:25:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:25:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: vonce again, da funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > "Charles" wrote > >> [not funny, but my cat does this!] >> http://tinyurl.com/55b3 > > LOL, so does mine. He also digs his claws into the back of the > chair and hangs on (sometimes gets his claws stuck and I have to > get out of the chair and go unhook the stupid brute). Or he'll > come running at it and jump onto the back and give you the fright > of your life. Ok, ok, but how about my friend's new kitten? (Already lost his whiskers - way too curious!) I sit down to take off my shoes and - hop! - kitten on my head! Just hangin' out! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:30:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What do you think must happen before any attack on Iraq? References: <3E385213.AFF27566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > "Charles" wrote >> Nope! I do not believe britain do be in europe, as I've written >> here quite a few times... > > Interesting, because I consider myself to be European. Difference of opinion, then, eh? A couple of quick questions... How did you vote on Maastricht? How did you vote on the Euro (hmm - did they even give you a chance to vote on that?)? [Or how would you have voted, on either issue.] Please note that quite of few of your countrymen voted against both. You might also note that your country is aligning itself with mine with regard to this little problem of Iraq and that the Continent is aligning itself, um, one some other plane. I do not feel that these 3 points are isolated issues. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:39:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEB99.BE7DCABD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > Charles wrote: > >> It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! >> >> > I'll bet a month's worth (ok a whole box) of tampons would do >> > an excellent job LOL >> >> Sigh. That isn't funny... I had to dig up a sewer line once >> because it was backed up... Seems one of the renters flushed all >> of hers... Very messy problem... > > Ewww... hope you had your hazmat suit on. Nah. But, you know, my LL (maybe more of an SL, whatever!) is a very fair person. (No, I was living in another of his homes at the time.) The grosser jobs paid better money. There was one that I had to do for him... Way worse than a backed up sewer! Ever had ichor dripping on your face? And, no, I ain't talking 'bout the blood of the gods... Tell Indi to stop reading _now_ ;) Anyway, seems a 'possum had died inside the bathtub at another of his homes... (Not inside-inside, outside-inside. Between the outside wall and tub, underneath.) Obviously the smell was a bit strong in that particular home! I crawled (shimmied) in through the crawlspace, cut a hole (and part of the 'possum) with a tiger saw and pulled the beast out. Very but very gross. I got paid double-time for that one and then he took me out to a nice dinner and a movie (after I'd showered and no, neither of us swings that way, he just felt badly that I'd had such an unpleasant experience in order to make his life easier). The end. What do you think of my story? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:40:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Not Me! >| Very messy problem... > > That ... is the entire reason for the project. Uh, right. Yeah. Well. Ew! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:41:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > "Charles" wrote >> I had to dig up a sewer line once because it was backed up... >> ... Very messy problem... > Ugh, how horrible. And what a moron! Oh, well, thanks! I like you a bunch, too! :) But, really, it wasn't that bad... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:51:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:51:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: In news:b1icn6$3ds$1@news.spamcop.net, Frog Prince typed: >> yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >=20 > From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine > for posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster than flies. >=20 > Many talking heads on TV have stated that the fine is upwards of > $200,000 and 10 years and there *will* be no leniency. >=20 > I'm told that the Texas Rangers and a few other local police > departments are taking name -- a** kickin comes later. Maybe they use this? http://www.boners.com/grub/788934.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 14:52:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 'bots on forum? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > A response to a post in .help said that "This makes me assume that > you are not > a 'bot but an actual human being." > > SikaSpam is not using 'bot literally, is he? I mean, he is using > 'bot to refer to posters who seem to be rigid in their opinions or > adhere to the most popular and most posted "party line." rather > than meaning a real 'bot like the ones you get if you try to get > help from someplace like McAfee. I guess that you'd have to ask Sika to really 'know', but it looks awfully figurative to me, given the thread... [Aside: the tag that I was looking for in that helge post was and not (which can be and often is a part of ).] Cheers! c: From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 15:06:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Linda) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 10:06:31 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay C&C References: Message-ID: <3E3D33F7.8002C919@spamcop.net> Okay, newbie on the NG here. C&C? Thx, L Frog Prince wrote: > Not fair -- required C&C notice not present. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 15:25:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:25:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay C&C References: <3E3D33F7.8002C919@spamcop.net> Message-ID: In news:3E3D33F7.8002C919@spamcop.net, Linda typed: > Okay, newbie on the NG here. >=20 > C&C? Stands for Coffee and Cats warning. It applies when reading a post = that is very humous and tends to cause the reader to spew the coffee = over the keyboard and scare the cat. > Thx, L >=20 > Frog Prince wrote: >=20 >> Not fair -- required C&C notice not present. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 16:04:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Linda) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:04:57 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay C&C References: <3E3D33F7.8002C919@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E3D41A9.9E602435@spamcop.net> 10Q linda PS and apologies for forgetting text only on prev YK wrote: > > Stands for Coffee and Cats warning. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 15:49:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:49:52 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay C&C References: <3E3D33F7.8002C919@spamcop.net> Message-ID: > C&C? Stands for Coffee and Cats warning. It applies when reading a post that is very humous and tends to cause the reader to spew the coffee over the keyboard and scare the cat. More dangerous if the cat happens to be sitting in one's lap. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 15:48:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:48:25 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: > I'm told that the Texas Rangers and a few other local police > departments are taking names -- a** kickin comes later. Maybe they use this? http://www.boners.com/grub/788934.html Knowing the folk in some of the less populated areas of Texas and Louisiana the a** kicking will come fresh -- nothing out of a can for them. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 16:03:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:03:22 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | >> I had to dig up a sewer line once because it was backed up... | >> ... Very messy problem... | | > Ugh, how horrible. And what a moron! | | Oh, well, thanks! I like you a bunch, too! :) But, really, it wasn't | that bad... Charles I think that particular hand grenade was intended for the tenant that caused the clog not you. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 16:18:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 10:18:38 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: | Um, I don't think they had rocket fuel engines in 1900 ;-) | The point was *early* 1900 v the 1960s+. The Germans (VonBrawn /spl/) were doing rockets early on using the same basic design as used in the current space program. Mix it together hope you manage a controlled explosion. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 16:50:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 16:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Frog Prince! >| Oh, well, thanks! I like you a bunch, too! :) > Charles I think that particular hand grenade was intended for the > tenant that caused the clog not you. Nah. The English language couldn't possibly be ambiguous enough to entail such a mistake on my part. I know that she was absolutely furious at me for saying that I didn't think that brits were europeans... She was lurking, waiting, biding her time... And then... Blam! Oh! Oh! Oh! Anyway, how about this weather? Crazy, huh? :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:17:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:17:17 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b1hqak$ogt$1@news.spamcop.net... In news:b1hnlo$n7e$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed: > http://search-desc.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&quer > y=Shuttle+debris&cgiurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.com%2Fws%2F&ht=1&from=R10&curr > disp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&srchdesc=y&BasicSearch= > > yikes....I don't know whether to laugh or be pissed >From what I have been reading in NANAE there will be a $10,000 fine for posession and eBay is whacking the ads faster than flies. I'm sure they're bogus anyway - just nutcases putting them there for the thrill of it. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:20:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:20:50 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1icn6$3ds$2@news.spamcop.net... > This was long before HASMAT was even a twinkle in anyone's eye. (they were > still spraying school kids with DDT to control mosquitoes) > What, actually spraying them like with Off! ? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:21:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:21:44 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1ig60$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > What's more impressive is the engine designs are basically the same since > the early 1900's I see that as being the reason why things are still so expensive and relatively unsafe. A new means of propulsion needs to be found that doesn't involve so much brute force. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:38:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:38:18 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: vonce again, da funnies! References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93165FF7DF510charles@216.154.195.60... > Ok, ok, but how about my friend's new kitten? (Already lost his > whiskers - way too curious!) I sit down to take off my shoes and - > hop! - kitten on my head! Just hangin' out! ha ha, little blighter. Mine has never climbed on my head, unless I'm lying in bed that is. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:36:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:36:33 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sunday funnies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93165A25EA317charles@216.154.195.60... > [For Kram ;)] > http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030119.gif LOL, love this one From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:44:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:44:19 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What do you think must happen before any attack on Iraq? References: <3E385213.AFF27566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931660BB53554charles@216.154.195.60... > Difference of opinion, then, eh? A couple of quick questions... How > did you vote on Maastricht? How did you vote on the Euro (hmm - did > they even give you a chance to vote on that?)? [Or how would you have > voted, on either issue.] Please note that quite of few of your > countrymen voted against both. You might also note that your country > is aligning itself with mine with regard to this little problem of Iraq > and that the Continent is aligning itself, um, one some other plane. I > do not feel that these 3 points are isolated issues. > I haven't lived in Britain for 7 years so haven't voted on anything in quite a while. Unlike here in the US, Britons are rarely given the chance to vote on specific issues. I don't think there's even been a referendum yet on the Euro issue. I think the Euro is in some ways a good idea and I'm not emotionally attached to the pound so if I had to make a choice I'd vote in favour of the Euro. Britain has historically (over the last 50 years anyway) aligned itself with the US. Events of WW2 have not been forgotten. The Europeans - especially France and Germany - have a 'sit back and let diplomacy work' attitude. They are (I think) understandably reticent about getting into wars with anyone. Maybe they've learnt their lessons? They're not really aligning themselves anywhere right now and I doubt they'd ever side with 'our' enemy. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:45:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:45:08 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931662A419040charles@216.154.195.60... > > Ugh, how horrible. And what a moron! > > Oh, well, thanks! I like you a bunch, too! :) But, really, it wasn't > that bad... I''m sure you knew I was referring to the moron who caused the mess, not the one who cleaned it up! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:56:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:56:47 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns9316788812CC1charles@216.154.195.60... > Nah. The English language couldn't possibly be ambiguous enough to > entail such a mistake on my part. I know that she was absolutely > furious at me for saying that I didn't think that brits were > europeans... She was lurking, waiting, biding her time... And then... > Blam! Oh! Oh! Oh! Actually, I said I felt like a european - I can't speak for the rest of my brethren though I suspect a good many of them don't feel the same way. > Anyway, how about this weather? Crazy, huh? :) Breezy, clear and sunny.... nothing too remarkable really ;o) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 17:51:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:51:43 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: | > This was long before HASMAT was even a twinkle in anyone's eye. (they | were still spraying school kids with DDT to control mosquitoes) | > | | What, actually spraying them like with Off! ? Actually from fogging trucks but the trucks were timed (intentionally or otherwise) to show up in the area at recess. Kids would run in the fog as a game. No one gave any consideration that this was poison they were spraying. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 18:24:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > Actually, I said I felt like a european - I can't speak for the > rest of my brethren though I suspect a good many of them don't > feel the same way. Oh, so now you're trying to take it all back? Some people! :) Fine, fine, fine. No, really, I'm not being _that_ obtuse. Got it! >> Anyway, how about this weather? Crazy, huh? :) > > Breezy, clear and sunny.... nothing too remarkable really ;o) Yeah, same here, except for the clear and sunny parts ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 18:26:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > I''m sure you knew I was referring to the moron who caused the > mess, not the one who cleaned it up! Hmm. Are you sure you're sure that I'm sure? La la la :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 19:12:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Richard Winder) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 11:12:43 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: >From the BBC: "Around three dozen people needed hospital treatment for burns and breathing problems after handling pieces of the wreckage. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2718125.stm -RSW From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 20:03:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:03:38 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1jk39$oae$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:b1ig60$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > What's more impressive is the engine designs are basically the same since > > the early 1900's > > I see that as being the reason why things are still so expensive and > relatively unsafe. A new means of propulsion needs to be found that doesn't > involve so much brute force. > > Impulse engines. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 22:08:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:08:28 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> Frog Prince wrote: > We just turned on Fox News to see news that the Shuttle has broken up. If there's any "good" news to come out of this, it's that they've pretty well ruled out an act of terrorism as the cause (pretty hard to hit a target 200,000 feet up and going 12,000-some MPH). >From what I've been able to piece together, it sounds like the failure started in the left wing (sensors started failing progressively in that area prior to the breakup, and the left wing temp sensors apparently recorded a huge heat spike, indicating a probable failure of the heat tiles). My guess is the post-accident investigation will reveal that the chunk of insulation that hit the wing on lift-off did more damage than they'd originally thought. This one has an awful sense of deja-vu about it - I watched Challenger explode from my backyard near Orlando back in '86. It was an unusually cold day for that time of the year (we didn't think they'd even attempt a launch that day), and the Y-shaped smoke trails hung ominously in the sky for most of the day. Most of us back then figured that if they ever lost another shuttle it would be curtains for the space program - hopefully that won't prove to be the case. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 22:24:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:24:55 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Cat wrote: > Hey! Now you know I've met you in person before, so I know the two of you don't > look alike. ;-) Contractual limitations prohibit me from using my on-screen appearance in person... :-) BTW, I'm probably going to be in your neck of the woods around the first weekend in June for a family reunion - I'll e-mail you details when the plans finalize. Don't know if I'll have time to drive over to your locale, but maybe we could meet halfway (Tuscaloosa?) for lunch the following Sunday afternoon. > BTW, I posted something in the Joe Millionaire thread about this other thing, > but I just thought I'd mention it again here. There's a link at The Smoking Gun > about one of the women on Joe Millionaire having a career in bondage films. Bondage films? You mean something like 007?... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 22:28:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:28:18 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931688722BF39charles@216.154.195.60... > Yeah, same here, except for the clear and sunny parts ;) LOL... it's now quite warm too after a cool start. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 22:30:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 14:30:06 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b1jtht$uac$1@news.spamcop.net... > Impulse engines. As in Star Trek you mean? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 23:16:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Rate the responses! (long) Re: [SC-Help] Block on 65.196.203.201 References: Message-ID: The helpful people in .help are really outhelping themselves this time! At posting time there are five response to the original post (post 51974, "[SC-Help] Block on 65.196.203.201"). I'm sure that by the time that you read this there will be more! Rate the posts on: - helpfulness - conciseness - courtesy Please use the following format, in order to make tallying the results easier! Name of poster : helpfulness : conciseness : courtesy comments You may include comments as well. For ratings, please use a scale of 1-10 with 1 being the lowest possible and 10 the highest. I am leaning towards using a weighted scale for tallying the results. I think something like helpfulness with a weight of 5, conciseness of 2 and courtesy of 3. My ratings Name of poster : helpfulness : conciseness : courtesy larry : 2 : 9 : 5 I find the last paragraph a bit gruff, and I'm not sure what its relationship would be to the question or even to the rest of the response. Actually, I find the first paragraph a bit odd. I think I know what it means, but I have the idea that if the original poster read it she wouldn't. Now, if you really want to get into this discussion, maybe Larry's way is best - he does not try to guess what the problem is and thus avoids spending a lot of time explaining possible reasons that might have nothing to do with the actual problem (in this case it seems pretty clear, but still). jason : 4 : 4 : 8 For me, it's explained and it's not explained. I don't want _all_ of the gory details, but how did he find his answer when she says that the IP isn't listed and what's the relation between all of those addresses anyway. And I don't think that it gives her many options. There have to be solutions for such a common problem! The top- posting bothers me (hmm, maybe I need to add a 'format' rating) as do the grammar and sentence structure (which is not really bad - it just bothers me). Quoting the entire post without any inlining was pretty bad for the conciseness rating! He was polite enough and the little joke in the last paragraph is a nice touch. taplie : 6 : 2 : 10 Youch! Was that long, or what? But, hey, have you noticed that Taplie has one of those really rare names? Google comes up with, like, nothin'! Anyway, Not only was his part of the response pretty long but he also included her whole message. At least he didn't top- post, but hey, a little editing work goes a long way! He really is very nice about the whole thing, including sending email to the poster. This will likely engender a certain amount of off-list work for him and it's nice to see people who genuinely want to help like that. What I find the strangest with his post is the change in registers. The explanation of the internet is fairly basic - fit for someone who doesn't really grasp computers. And then, bam!, there are a couple of pages of whois and such. The last large paragraph does give some good help but doesn't give means of achieving the advice, if the user truly is clueless, and it comes after so much information that would have already skipped to the next answer were it not for this little survey... spambo : 5 : 4 : 5 Yet another response with the entire original message. Is Larry the only one who knows how to edit posts? Again, it is long. And, again, it is helpful and it's not. I mean, I read the whole thing (sort of) but I wonder if the original poster would? And, it doesn't look like _he_ (she?) read the original post since he states that the poster didn't say which addy was blocked. I'm not sure what the purpose of the 'DIVERT' paragraph is, but I am pretty sure that it would be very confusing to a newbie - especially with the emphasis on the purported diversion. The poster had a message blocked, not diverted. The helpfulness is greatly helped by the last paragraph which actually gives a solution that could work in the short term for the poster - which was exactly what she asked for. I find the tone to be somewhat condescending and perhaps argumentative. john : 7 : 5 : 6 Compare John's first sentence to Larry's first sentence and note John's is self-contained and much shorter yet better conveys a similar message in a manner that is comprehensible to all. The replies to the original questions are done inline which renders the message easier to read than, say, spambo's, and yet the content (of the original) still hasn't been edited down. He does give practical solutions to the actual, pressing problem (but I prefer spambo's webmail solution). The tone suffers a bit from sarcasm, but the last sentence was pretty nice and makes up for some of that. Can _we_ do better than that? Maybe. I slammed everyone on helpfulness, but can they _really_ be helpful without the exact error message? Well, in a very simple case like this one, I think that they can... Absolutely no hard feelers intended for anyone - this was an unasked- for critique of posting style in .help. Maybe with little bits of criticism you can become better .helpers! (Ahem.) And then it was posted in .social where no one will read it anyway... Right??? ;) One last, quick comment... The posters could have checked to see if someone else had already replied to the message before doing so. In this way they might have even come up with the perfect post together - through replies containing complimentary and not duplicated information. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 23:31:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:31:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 14:24:55 -0800, GregR wrote: >> BTW, I posted something in the Joe Millionaire thread about this other >> thing, but I just thought I'd mention it again here. There's a link at >> The Smoking Gun about one of the women on Joe Millionaire having a >> career in bondage films. > > Bondage films? You mean something like 007?... :-) Not just bondage, but foot fetish stuff. So, lots of naked feet. Now, that's just something I totally don't get. Maybe in like Victorian times and catching a glimpse of a naked ankle might be a thrill, but are women's feet really that mysterious anymore? Oh, wait, I believe these feet films had dirty feet (feet with mud and dirt on them). I'm getting the vapors here. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 23:57:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:57:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEB99.BE7DCABD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB074.DCECC24A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Charles wrote: > > > Nah. But, you know, my LL (maybe more of an SL, whatever!) is a very > fair person. (No, I was living in another of his homes at the time.) > The grosser jobs paid better money. There was one that I had to do for > him... Way worse than a backed up sewer! Ever had ichor dripping on > your face? And, no, I ain't talking 'bout the blood of the gods... > Tell Indi to stop reading _now_ ;) Anyway, seems a 'possum had died > inside the bathtub at another of his homes... (Not inside-inside, > outside-inside. Between the outside wall and tub, underneath.) > Obviously the smell was a bit strong in that particular home! I > crawled (shimmied) in through the crawlspace, cut a hole (and part of > the 'possum) with a tiger saw and pulled the beast out. Very but very > gross. I got paid double-time for that one and then he took me out to > a nice dinner and a movie (after I'd showered and no, neither of us > swings that way, he just felt badly that I'd had such an unpleasant > experience in order to make his life easier). > > The end. > What do you think of my story? You sure are braver than I woudl ever be. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 2 23:57:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (schinnerm@gmx.de) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 17:57:41 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3DB075.88F48C31@gmx.de> GregR wrote: > BTW, I'm probably going to be in your neck of the woods around the first weekend in > June for a family reunion - I'll e-mail you details when the plans finalize. Don't > know if I'll have time to drive over to your locale, but maybe we could meet > halfway (Tuscaloosa?) for lunch the following Sunday afternoon. Cool! I might be able to work something out. Just send me details > > BTW, I posted something in the Joe Millionaire thread about this other thing, > > but I just thought I'd mention it again here. There's a link at The Smoking Gun > > about one of the women on Joe Millionaire having a career in bondage films. > > Bondage films? You mean something like 007?... :-) Oh, just go check it out at The Smoking Gun, ya freak! ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:01:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:01:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C403E.844270CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB164.3A8F8B3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Chris Willoughby wrote: > I think annoying is a bit of an understatement. Personally, that has > affected me far more than September 11th did. > > Chris > Looks like they aren't ruling out a problem with the foam insulation damaging the left wing during take off. (If that was the cause, then I am amazed that they managed to go that far without trouble.) Maybe in the future someone should go and do a spacewalk to check the hull next time there is a suspected problem. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:02:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:02:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB17E.30F6DF3C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Chris Willoughby" wrote in message > news:b1hi4d$jaj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Wasn't he the one that discovered the problem with the 'O' Rings? > > Yes. What she said. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:02:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:02:39 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3DB19F.778F66FE@spamcop.net> GregR wrote: > BTW, I'm probably going to be in your neck of the woods around the first weekend in > June for a family reunion - I'll e-mail you details when the plans finalize. Don't > know if I'll have time to drive over to your locale, but maybe we could meet > halfway (Tuscaloosa?) for lunch the following Sunday afternoon. Cool! I might be able to work something out. Just send me details > > BTW, I posted something in the Joe Millionaire thread about this other thing, > > but I just thought I'd mention it again here. There's a link at The Smoking Gun > > about one of the women on Joe Millionaire having a career in bondage films. > > Bondage films? You mean something like 007?... :-) Oh, just go check it out at The Smoking Gun, ya freak! ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:08:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:08:12 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB2EC.C41E0367@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > I did! And the book of his life written by someone else which I've > forgotten the name of now. (Ah, found it: Genius by James Gleick). > > I saw a BBC Horizon (think Nova) programme about him back in the 80s > (shortly before he died) and I was entranced by him. I commented to > hubby this morning 'they don't have Richard Feynman on the case this > time'. I hope that doesn't mean they won't solve it expediently. He was quite a character, wasn't he? :-) (His methods for investigating the Challenger disaster was required reading for an ethics course I took for engineers. Fascinating to say the least.) He had this interesting disdain for engineers trying to be accountants and vice versa. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:18:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:18:33 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB559.A4B0C461@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:b1jtht$uac$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Impulse engines. > > As in Star Trek you mean? The impulse engines in Star Trek were conventional engines. (Non-warp related.) It provided simple thrust to push the vehicle around. (Only in ST the Impulse engines used some kind of nuclear fuel similar to the concept of "Daedulus" engines.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:16:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:16:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > | Um, I don't think they had rocket fuel engines in 1900 ;-) > | > > The point was *early* 1900 v the 1960s+. The Germans (VonBrawn /spl/) were > doing rockets early on using the same basic design as used in the current > space program. Mix it together hope you manage a controlled explosion. And you are how old? ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:15:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:15:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB494.5C2C8534@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Chris Willoughby wrote: > Here, check this out: > http://www.jerrypournelle.com/mail/currentmail.html#prizes > > and http://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/gettospace.html > Feels like NASA wants "backward compatability" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:21:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:21:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C3DF6.57740B51@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB61F.842C5405@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > Maulder and Skully (spl?) knocking on the front door as well? > > Don't leave it to chance.. just might get some agents knocking looking for something. :-) > I was not watching but my dog was a bit spooked by the boom (I'm guessing as > my hearing is not that good). > > The news folk who have been on site in East Texas are talking about people > who are grabbing parts as keepsakes (or in hopes of turning a profit). > > Almost as bad as robbing from the graveyard. :-p > Early this AM there were shuttle parts up on ebay. (NASA had that pulled) > > Seems to be a credible HASMAT risk as anyone who has been in contact with > the stuff is quickly sent to the hospital. > > FP I heard there were several people already sent to the hospital for burns they acquired handling the debris. Either way, that hydrazine stuff is quite caustic. :-p From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:25:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:25:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > > > If there's any "good" news to come out of this, it's that they've pretty > well ruled out an act of terrorism as the cause (pretty hard to hit a > target 200,000 feet up and going 12,000-some MPH). > > As Iraq's officials was reported to be in glee after hearing of the disaster. (Not that it matters since they will be getting a few tanks up where they don't want em.) > From what I've been able to piece together, it sounds like the failure > started in the left wing (sensors started failing progressively in that > area prior to the breakup, and the left wing temp sensors apparently > recorded a huge heat spike, indicating a probable failure of the heat > tiles). My guess is the post-accident investigation will reveal that the > chunk of insulation that hit the wing on lift-off did more damage than > they'd originally thought. > > As I mentioned on another thread.. maybe in the future it will be a good idea to get someone to take a spacewalk and do a visual inspection of the shuttle before taking her back to Earth. > This one has an awful sense of deja-vu about it - I watched Challenger > explode from my backyard near Orlando back in '86. It was an unusually > cold day for that time of the year (we didn't think they'd even attempt a > launch that day), and the Y-shaped smoke trails hung ominously in the sky > for most of the day. > > Most of us back then figured that if they ever lost another shuttle it > would be curtains for the space program - hopefully that won't prove to be > the case. > > -- > All signs point that won't be the case since this may not be a design flaw (as was the situation with the O-rings.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:26:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:26:38 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: To lighten up things today References: Message-ID: <3E3DB73E.A0386B36@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> YK wrote: > The World of Dancing Cats > > http://www.monpa.com/dwc/world.html That is so unnerving. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:32:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:32:03 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4122.26EDAE96@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB883.D3C799C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:3E3C4122.26EDAE96@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > And put the money you would have spend for a downpayment for a house. > :-) > > Actually as we already had a house (in England) it went on a car > instead. Just as good... :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:32:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 18:32:52 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> Redstone wrote: > As I mentioned on another thread.. maybe in the future it will be a good idea > to get someone to take a spacewalk and do a visual inspection of the shuttle > before taking her back to Earth. I'm a little curious about what they would have done if they had realized that there was enough damage for them not to make it back safely. I wonder if they would have had to get to the space station somehow and dock there to wait for a rescue shuttle or something. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:34:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:34:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EC44.AC6D1EB4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA88.803660A8@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C41AE.64DCFC0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB901.6CE2CF72@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > Did you carry a scepter and go "Off with his head!"? :-) > > > ***No, a sharp letter opener and threats of gelding..... ;) Oh.. you mean a Joan D'Arc. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:32:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:32:26 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C414D.3824396B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB89A.FA9EDDB6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:3E3C414D.3824396B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > > I missed it entirely.. Isn't it supposed to take pretty women and make > them > > hideous or something? > > > *Yeah, and then you have to *marry* her....LOL... Funny.. and does the makeup come off? :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:33:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:33:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > | > > My wife was the essence of calm. My mother and mother-in-law where another > matter entirely. > > My wife had three key phrases: 'Yes', 'No' and 'It's my wedding' end of > story. Was Elvis there too? :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:33:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:33:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > > **I must have missed the x-rated page, I never saw his bum on there.. ;) He was more in heaven with their local "Links" course. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:31:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:31:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: Message-ID: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > I'm told that the Texas Rangers and a few other local police > > departments are taking names -- a** kickin comes later. > > Maybe they use this? http://www.boners.com/grub/788934.html > > Knowing the folk in some of the less populated areas of Texas and Louisiana > the a** kicking will come fresh -- nothing out of a can for them. Speaking of which I still need to repay you for the gumbo and Morning Call you sent me a few years back. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 00:47:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 19:47:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Cat wrote: > > > I'm a little curious about what they would have done if they had realized that > there was enough damage for them not to make it back safely. I wonder if they > would have had to get to the space station somehow and dock there to wait for a > rescue shuttle or something. I think they could have done that. If NASA couldn't send another shuttle in short order, then I'm sure Russia could send up another Soyuz. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 01:24:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Baloo Ursidae) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In spamcop.geeks Cat wrote: > I'm a little curious about what they would have done if they had > realized that there was enough damage for them not to make it back > safely. I wonder if they would have had to get to the space station > somehow and dock there to wait for a rescue shuttle or something. I don't believe that Columbia had the equipment to dock at the ISS. If the ISS has emergency airlocks, I assume the best case would be get close to it, and have most of the crew make the leap of faith to the ISS and go in through one of the emergency airlocks while one or two stay behind on a mostly shut-down ship to keep it from drifting into the atmosphere, into the space station, or otherwise out of reach. - -- .''`. Baloo : :' : proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than to fix a system -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PcT0NtWkM9Ny9xURAi8aAKCRw3J2Wn6XVVtaO2jEXqrXiX4U0QCfe7LR HLH+ly6PDVR2srwsfm6zMHo= =OZ/R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 01:33:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:33:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Low Country Boil.. Message-ID: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> .. aka Frogmore Stew. Opnions? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:10:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 21:10:36 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] GregR's NASDAQ Message-ID: <3E3DCF9C.625501EF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Helium was up. Feathers were down. Paper was stationary. Fluorescent tubing was dimmed in light trading. Knives were up sharply. Cows steered into a bull market. Pencils lost a few points. Hiking equipment was trailing. Elevators rose, while escalators continued their slow decline. Weights were up in heavy trading. Light switches were off. Mining equipment hit rock bottom. Diapers remain unchanged. Shipping lines stayed at an even keel. The market for raisins dried up. Coca Cola fizzled. Caterpillar stock inched up a bit. Sun peaked at midday. Balloon prices were inflated.... And, Scott Tissue touched a new bottom. ----- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:16:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 21:16:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Factoids of the Wierd. Message-ID: <3E3DD10C.BFEA6C28@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Alfred Hitchcock didn't have a bellybutton. A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 yrs. When you sneeze, all bodily functions stop ... even your heart! 40 people are sent to the hospital for dog bites every minute. Babies are born without knee caps. They don't appear until they are 2-6 years old. The average person over fifty will have spent 5 years waiting in lines. The toothbrush was invented in 1498. 40,000 Americans are injured by toilets each year. The average computer user blinks 7 times a minute. Most of us have eaten a spider in our sleep. Michael Jackson owns the rights to the South Carolina State anthem. In most television commercials advertising milk, a mixture of white paint and a little thinner is used in place of the milk. The first Harley Davidson motorcycle built in 1903 used a tomato can for a carburetor. Most hospitals make money by selling the umbilical cords cut from women who give birth. Humphrey Bogart was related to Princess Diana. If coloring was not added to Coca-Cola, it would be green. --- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:15:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 02:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Low Country Boil.. References: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > .. aka Frogmore Stew. > > Opnions? ain't ne'er et nun o' dat, but it shoar doan look lik its reel compelkated. Actually, it looks pretty lame - if you asked me. 2 boxes of random seafood seasoning is the only flavor added to it? Sheesh. It's white trash food! Don't get me wrong - it might be tasty enough, but I am not impressed. Heck, it looks a lot like clam stew or similar that you make when you go on a clam bake. It's great when you're out on the beach all day, but it's not usually what I prepare at home where my expectations are higher, pantry is readily accessible, etc. A plus about it would be that you could substitute any random seafood or not clean the crab and have food for bazillions in under half an hour. "when the water comes back to a boil, pour off water" As in, conserve the water as broth or as in you only eat the lumpy parts? Serves 30? So, each person gets 4/5 of an ear of corn, 1/2 pound of shrimp, 1/60 bushel of crab (according to you get 60 - 72 jumbo crabs per bushel so each person is getting a whole jumbo blue crab - they really don't have much meat on 'em!), 5/12 lb of sausage (~7oz) uand some certain amount of msg. Let's call it a pound of meat/seafood and an ear of corn. Dang. They must be big eaters in the low country... Now, let's look at this another way... 7oz sausage ~ 560 calories 1/2 lb shrimp ~ 240 calories 4/5 ear of corn ~ 100 calories blue crab ~ 100 calories msg ~ negligeable calories => 1000 calories Which isn't actually going to get us anywhere because if we try to look up the number of calories that you need each day we find that 'experts' give answers from 2000 to over 3500 just for me. So, to answer your question, 12. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:22:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 21:22:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Posted signs from the Island of DUH! Message-ID: <3E3DD279.9F85BBC9@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> On a septic tank truck sign: "We're #1 in the #2 business." Sign over a gynecologist's office: "Dr. Jones, at your cervix." At a proctologist's door "To expedite your visit please back in." On a plumber's truck: "We repair what your husband fixed." On a plumber's truck: "Don't sleep with a drip. Call your plumber." Pizza shop slogan: "7 days without pizza makes one weak." At a tire shop in Milwaukee: "Invite us to your next blowout." On a plastic surgeon's office door: "Hello. Can we pick your nose?" At a towing company: "We don't charge an arm and a leg. We want tows." On an electrician's truck: "Let us remove your shorts." In a nonsmoking area: "If we see smoke, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate action." On a maternity room door: "Push. Push. Push." At an optometrist's office "If you don't see what you're looking for, you've come to the right place." On a taxidermist's window: "We really know our stuff." In a podiatrist's office: "Time wounds all heels. On a fence: "Salesmen welcome! Dog food is expensive." At a car dealership: "The best way to get back on your feet -- miss a car payment." Outside a muffler shop: "No appointment necessary. We hear you coming." In a veterinarian's waiting room: "Be back in 5 minutes. Sit! Stay!" At an electric company: "We would be delighted if you send in your payment. However, if you don't, you will be." In a restaurant window: "Don't stand there and be hungry, Come on in and get fed up." In the front yard of a funeral home: "Drive carefully. We'll wait." At a propane filling station, "Tank heaven for little grills." At a Chicago radiator shop: "Best place in town to take a leak." ---- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:26:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 21:26:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] "Doing it Over" by Erma Bombeck Message-ID: <3E3DD35A.CD8CDAEB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck (written after she found out she was dying from cancer). I would have gone to bed when I was sick instead of pretending the earth would go into a holding pattern if I weren't there for the day. I would have burned the pink candle sculpted like a rose before it melted in storage. I would have talked less and listened more. I would have invited friends over to dinner even if the carpet was stained, or the sofa faded. I would have eaten the popcorn in the 'good' living room and worried much less about the dirt when someone wanted to light a fire in the fireplace. I would have taken the time to listen to my grandfather ramble about his youth. I would have shared more of the responsibility carried by my husband. I would never have insisted the car windows be rolled up on a summer day because my hair had just been teased and sprayed. I would have sat on the lawn with my grass stains. I would have cried and laughed less while watching television and more while watching life. I would never have bought anything just because it was practical, wouldn't show soil, or was guaranteed to last a lifetime. Instead of wishing away nine months of pregnancy, I'd have cherished every moment and realized that the wonderment growing inside me was the only chance in life to assist God in a miracle. When my kids kissed me impetuously, I would never have said, "Later. Now go get washed up for dinner." There would have been more "I love you's." More "I'm sorry's." But mostly, given another shot at life, I would seize every minute...look at it and really see it ... live it ..and never give it back. Stop sweating the small stuff. Don't worry about who doesn't like you, who has more, or who's doing what. ---------- Quite insightful, no? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:25:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:25:42 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB559.A4B0C461@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3DB559.A4B0C461@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > > news:b1jtht$uac$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Impulse engines. > > > > As in Star Trek you mean? > > The impulse engines in Star Trek were conventional engines. (Non-warp > related.) It provided simple thrust to push the vehicle around. (Only > in ST the Impulse engines used some kind of nuclear fuel similar to > the concept of "Daedulus" engines.) > > > Simple room-temperature fusion was the power source. :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:37:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:37:38 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Doing it Over" by Erma Bombeck References: <3E3DD35A.CD8CDAEB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E3DD35A.CD8CDAEB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com > IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck (written after she > found out she was dying from cancer). [...] > Quite insightful, no? Saw a sig yesterday on another ML: "Memento mori, ergo carpe diem" (Latin for: Remember dying, hence seize the day). Sums it up quite well IMHO. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 02:56:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:56:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Low Country Boil.. References: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: In news:3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com, Redstone typed: > .. aka Frogmore Stew. > > Opnions? http://www.seafoodrecipe.com/AZ/FrgmrStw.asp plus a lot more sites on Google. I like the shrimp pealed and devained maybe add a cubed salmon filet. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 03:09:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:09:26 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com > Frog Prince wrote: > > > > Um, I don't think they had rocket fuel engines in 1900 ;-) > > > > > > > The point was *early* 1900 v the 1960s+. The Germans (VonBrawn /spl/) > > were doing rockets early on using the same basic design as used in the > > current space program. Mix it together hope you manage a controlled > > explosion. > > And you are how old? ;-) VonBraun's V2 appeared in the last years of WW2. I'd call that mid-20th century, not "early 1900". (V1 were ramjets IIRC). Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 03:34:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:34:33 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The East Coast isn't the only spot with bad weather References: Message-ID: We had our first snows of the season this weekend. Roads iced-over, the works; even a 3-truck deadly accident. I stayed cozily at home with a thick 1-vol. edition of the LOTR. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 03:39:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Factoids of the Wierd. References: <3E3DD10C.BFEA6C28@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > Alfred Hitchcock didn't have a bellybutton. Well, he certainly did at one point or he'd not have been born, eh? It might not have healed up like ours did or he might have had it removed... Go on, show me a good source for your info. > A pack-a-day smoker will lose approximately 2 teeth every 10 yrs. Every 10 years, you say? Well, duh. So will nonsmokers, eh? It was popular in grandma's day to have all of your teeth removed and get dentures (and you always wondered why all of those old folks had 'em). > When you sneeze, all bodily functions stop ... even your heart! And your brain, man! Your brain stops working, too! And your eyesight! > 40 people are sent to the hospital for dog bites every minute. Why are some of these for people in the us and some just for people? 40*60*24=57,600 hospital visits for dog bites every day? Sure, I'd fall for that for the world, maybe just for the us. And? > Babies are born without knee caps. They don't appear until they > are 2-6 years old. I'm sorry, this sounds quite improbable. Proof? Anyone??? > The average person over fifty will have spent 5 years waiting in > lines. NO WAY. Let's assume that you started waiting in lines at age 10. So, 5 of your 40 years you'd have been in line or an average of 1/8 of every day == 3 hours a day. I think not! Even if you started at birth that's 1/10 of your life or 2+ hours per day, EVERY DAY, on average. > The toothbrush was invented in 1498. Certainly not falling for that, since I'm on a roll. How about for a reference. Hmm. Well, maybe. But many sites claim to have the exact date and bla bla. I'm not falling for it. > 40,000 Americans are injured by toilets each year. Maybe. > The average computer user blinks 7 times a minute. Maybe. Maybe not. > Most of us have eaten a spider in our sleep. Whatever. > Michael Jackson owns the rights to the South Carolina State > anthem. Aha! I found a source for some of this bogus junk! What dopes! Aha! Another! This crap just goes around and around the web... Sure, eventually it ends up in snopes, but you can't expect snopes to be super heroes... Pretty close to this post: > In most television commercials advertising milk, a mixture of > white paint and a little thinner is used in place of the milk. I doubt it. Maybe. Why not? > The first Harley Davidson motorcycle built in 1903 used a tomato > can for a carburetor. Wow. One of them is true! No! > Most hospitals make money by selling the umbilical cords cut from > women who give birth. > Humphrey Bogart was related to Princess Diana. (Yeah, right, they were 7th cousins, didn't you know? Of course, I'm 7th cousins with about everybody on the frickin' planet...) > If coloring was not added to Coca-Cola, it would be green. Well, the recipe is secret, so who told you? Bunk, bunk and more bunk. Grr. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 03:43:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 03:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: amateur girls in your area S References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was RuthLess Aggression Anti-Spammer 01/31/2003 8:36 PM! > It's either you be part of the solution and > stop being part of the problem. !!! The shrub is posting on spamcop! Who'd a thunk? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 03:56:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 04:56:08 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: pair.com References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" a écrit dans le message de news: b1elna$s86$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Originally, Cheshire. I'm the original Cheshire kat LOL So whenever you hit a bracket key the result is a smiley? Nice... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 04:50:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:50:40 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > Not just bondage, but foot fetish stuff. So, lots of naked feet. Zoom, zoom, zoom - another attempted joke wasted (or was it?..). You guys are really depressing the heck out of my writing staff... :-) > I'm getting the vapors here. <"Airplane" mode> "I sure picked a lousy week to stop sniffing glue..." -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 04:59:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (John L.) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 21:59:55 -0700 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "GregR" wrote in message news:3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL... > <"Airplane" mode> > > "I sure picked a lousy week to stop sniffing glue..." > > > > -- > GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> > Uh Greg, maybe you were a couple of weeks too late? :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:38:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig Sturdivant) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:38:50 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Movie suggestions Message-ID: Ok, I need some help in picking a movie. The last movie that my friend and I saw was 25th Hour, and I gave her crap on how she picked yet another crappy movie to watch (previous one she picked was The Ring). I've been lucky and have picked several good ones (Catch Me If You Can and Adaptation). This coming weekend we are planning on seeing another movie, and it is my choice, and I am stuck. Since I gave her crap on how awful 25th Hour was, I want to make sure that I am picking a winner. I am thinking of The Recruit or Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind. Any thoughts on those two movies? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:40:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:40:26 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Factoids of the Wierd. References: <3E3DD10C.BFEA6C28@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | | > The average person over fifty will have spent 5 years waiting in | > lines. | | NO WAY. Let's assume that you started waiting in lines at age 10. | So, 5 of your 40 years you'd have been in line or an average of 1/8 | of every day == 3 hours a day. I think not! Even if you started at | birth that's 1/10 of your life or 2+ hours per day, EVERY DAY, on | average. | OTOH when these numbers were derived there were a goodly number of guys who lived in homes with three or more women and one bath room. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:31:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:31:18 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > My wife was the essence of calm. My mother and mother-in-law where another | > matter entirely. | > | > My wife had three key phrases: 'Yes', 'No' and 'It's my wedding' end of | > story. | | Was Elvis there too? :-) Actually he was still alive and some say at his best. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:20:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:20:43 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: The 10PM news had an interview with a guy in east Texas that had contact with some of the junk. Seems someone from NASA or the recovery folk told him, and he is serious about this, that he 'had 48 hours to live' as a result. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:26:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:26:33 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > Knowing the folk in some of the less populated areas of Texas and Louisiana | > the a** kicking will come fresh -- nothing out of a can for them. | | Speaking of which I still need to repay you for the gumbo and Morning Call you | sent me a few years back. :-) Covered by laughs and tech support in getting my butt out of what ever I (and MS) manage to get myself into. BTW you are officially a Honorary Coon Ass. (which is a bit less, socially, than a Registered Coon Ass) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:17:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:17:18 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > I'm a little curious about what they would have done if they had realized that | > there was enough damage for them not to make it back safely. I wonder if they | > would have had to get to the space station somehow and dock there to wait for a | > rescue shuttle or something. | | I think they could have done that. | | If NASA couldn't send another shuttle in short order, then I'm sure Russia could | send up another Soyuz. I don't think they had sufficient consumable or delta v to make the trip to the station. As to a space walk no EVA equipment on this flight. NASA has been playing with a remote 'flyable' camera that would have helped survay the area but .... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 05:57:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 23:57:52 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > | Um, I don't think they had rocket fuel engines in 1900 ;-) | > | | > | > The point was *early* 1900 v the 1960s+. The Germans (VonBrawn /spl/) were | > doing rockets early on using the same basic design as used in the current | > space program. Mix it together hope you manage a controlled explosion. | | And you are how old? ;-) Old enough to know better, still too young to resist but regardless too old to be effective. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 06:01:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 00:01:04 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > > The point was *early* 1900 v the 1960s+. The Germans (VonBrawn /spl/) | > > were doing rockets early on using the same basic design as used in the | > > current space program. Mix it together hope you manage a controlled | > > explosion. | > | > And you are how old? ;-) | | VonBraun's V2 appeared in the last years of WW2. I'd call that mid-20th | century, not "early 1900". (V1 were ramjets IIRC). VonBraun and others were doing rocket research in the 1920s (+/-) the German super weapons were the end result. FWIW the US/USSR space race was nothing more than Germans on both sides playing rocket ship. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 06:14:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:14:12 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] "Kingpin" Message-ID: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> Anybody watch the premiere tonight? I'd be interested in any feedback (good or bad, doesn't matter). Based only on the promos that have aired for the past several weeks, it looked really interesting and I'd picked it as a high quality mid-season winner. Local paper agrees with my assessment, though USA Today only gave it fair-to-middling reviews. Comments? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 06:20:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:20:40 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3E0A38.CDF2E5DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Frog Prince wrote: > VonBraun and others were doing rocket research in the 1920s (+/-) the German > super weapons were the end result. As was Goddard on this side of the pond - in fact, in 1914 he received patents for a liquid-fueled rocket and a two- or three-stage solid-fueled one: http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/service/gallery/fact_sheets/general/goddard/goddard.htm -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 06:54:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:54:55 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) Message-ID: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Every day millions of images go to your brain, but as you know only some of these are focused. To prove this scientific hypothesis try the following test: Stare at this picture (http://tinyurl.com/597r) and try to find the car in the shortest possible time. Results: Average time for a man: 12.46 minutes Average time for a woman: 1.23 seconds -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 07:02:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:02:22 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "indigo" a écrit dans le message de news: b1ec53$m0a$1@news.spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b1deas$40o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Three correct, one incorrect. :( > > > > Before I looked I hestitated between "cats" and "Alaska, Hawaii, Maine, > > Hawaii", but apparently it is neither. I'm not saying (yet?) what I > > found after I looked. > > > Without googling, I think Ironsides was made of something other than oak > -- IIRC there's something called "iron wood", I forget the name of the > tree, but it's *really* hard wood.... "Mr. K Mean" got "100% correct" in another subthread for answers to several questions including "oak" for Old Ironsides so I didn't bother about that one. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 07:03:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:03:29 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1e189$ek2$1@news.spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b1e0cs$dvl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I don't know, and (excuse my ignorance) I don't even know the > > > > location of Grant's tomb. > > I think that that Grant's tomb is in Trinity Cemetery which is located in > New York City (Bronx?). Trinity Cemetery is also the location of my > great-grandmother's grave. One day I plan to go there; it is in one of > the tougher parts of town, I think. > > Miss Betsy Thanks. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 07:07:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (DeAnna) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:07:11 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: You mean a male actually *saw* a car in that pic??? > Average time for a man: 12.46 minutes > > Average time for a woman: 1.23 seconds > I'd have to see proof to believe that.... lol BTW- I think someone needs to take up a collection to buy that poor gal some clothes... it looks like she outgrew those around the time she hit puberty.... D. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 07:10:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 08:10:29 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1ei3g$q0q$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > It is in New York City, but in Manhattan. > General Grant National Memorial is located at 122nd Street and Riverside > Drive in Manhattan. from http://www.nps.gov/gegr/ > > I can't find anything that says Grant's tomb is in Trinity Cemetery, but I > did find this reference to Trinity Cemetery which is on Riverside Drive, > though I don't know how far 770 is from 122nd St. > > Trinity Cemetery & Mausoleum > (Upper Manhattan) 770 Riverside Drive, New York, NY 10040 > > There are three different Trinity grave sites in NYC so maybe my > greatgrandmother is not buried in the same place. > > Miss Betsy Well, thanks anyway. My notions of US geography are rather vague anyway. I do know that Manhattan is "the" central island of New York City but don't ask me to be more precise than that. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 08:03:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (DeAnna) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 02:03:54 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: > If you want a delayed revenge put a large (1/2 gal is best) carton of milk > in the AC return just before you move out. Depending on the weather and the > room temp it takes between 7 and 21 days to have an effect. Don't be so obvious.... plug the water 'drain' with 'debris' (nasty, mouldy newspaper works great) so that the condensation will back up and cause some nice water damage... purely accidently.... > Stare flushing the dental floss down the john. Takes months but eventually > things will back up. I'd go with the Tampons.... buy a few boxes of the bargain brand ones. No need to use them. Just flush them. :) I'd go a few at a time... A RotoRooter guy once told me that tree roots and tampons keep him in business. As for knowing.. feign ignorance... after all they *do* claim to be 'flushable'... get the cardboard applicators so you can flush the applicator down right after... (remember to remove the tampon and flush it first for maximum clogging power... *eg* > Turn the valve on the hot water heater to almost closed, just enough to > reduce the flow. Even if the plumber finds it right off a service call will > cost more than a few bucks. Too obvious. I'd recommend something mouldy (don't use paper... use some sort of 'food'... a bit of wet bread with the crust removed) in the fridge drain pan. Make it small pieces to appear as though it was something 'flushed' out of the drain... and make sure to add enough water to keep the fridge motor from drying it out.... before it starts to get nasty... add a bit of juice from a can of tuna, for added savor... ;) > Put a layer of sand in the holding tank for the toilet. Again not enough to > be obvious. On day you move put a small box of cat litter in the holding > tank. Drain the toilet tank, and smear some grease (vaseline) around the flap, but not in a continuous ring. This will usually cause the flap not to seal properly, resulting in a run-on toilet. Again.. purely on accident..... > Break the seal on the electric power meter. Power company will take one to > five bill cycles to discover the tampering and will make his life miserable. Watch that... getting caught can cause SERIOUS problems... > Put his/her phone numbers in the personals with the local news paper and > alternate press. Wording is left to your imagination. Better yet, sign them up for junk mail.... enter him in those 'contests' like Olan Mills. > There are more options but I'll leave those to the rest of the group. Let's see... here is one my sis was going to try on her ex. He was real into 'toys' ...so she was going to send him a 'free sample' french tickler, using the address off a mailing label from a sub to a dirty magazine, and mail it from another state (via help of an accomplice), but rolled in poison ivy first. (Not sure if she ever followed through... lol... and afraid to ask....) I could think of more evil suggestions... but they'd likely get you arrested... KK- Sorry to hear of your experience.... been through my share of *those* kind of men... he wasn't meant for you anyway.... Remember that "with friends like that" saying also applies to lovers. :( Good luck finding a roomie. Where'bouts in the country are ya? D. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 08:20:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 00:20:31 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Geography Lesson :-) Message-ID: <3E3E264F.CB591318@suespammers.org.NULL> THE GEOGRAPHY OF A WOMAN Between 18 and 20 a woman is like Africa - half discovered, half wild, naturally beautiful, with fertile deltas. Between 21 and 30 a woman is like America - well-developed and open to trade, especially for someone with cash. Between 31 and 35 she is like India - very hot, relaxed, and convinced of her own beauty. Between 36 and 40 a woman is like France - gently aging, but still a warm and desirable place to visit. Between 41 and 50 she is like Yugoslavia - lost the war and haunted by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary. Between 51 and 60 she is like Russia - very wide and borders are unpatrolled. The frigid climate keeps people away. Between 61 and 70 a woman is like Mongolia - with a glorious and all-conquering past, but alas - no future. After 70 women become Afghanistan - most everyone knows where it is, but noone wants to go there. THE GEOGRAPHY OF A MAN Between 15 and 70 a man is like Iraq - ruled by a dick. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 08:49:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:49:36 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" a écrit dans le message de news: b1enlp$qt7$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Nobody is buried in Grant's tomb. You don't bury people in tombs, Oh no? Let's see what my reference works say, since you told me to look into them. New Oxford Dictionary of English, © 1998-2001, p.247 under "bury": [...[ * (usu. *be buried*) place (a dead body) in the earth, in a tomb, or in the sea, usually with funeral rites: /he was buried in St. John's churchyard./ [...] p.1950 under "tomb": *tomb* |> *noun* a large vault, typically an underground one, for burying the dead. [...] * a monument to the memory of a dead person, erected over their burial place [...] So, AFAICT, people are buried, among other places, in tombs. (And no, I don't have a Webster's. Doesn't it mention that meaning of the word? My Oxford doesn't mark it as "British".) In the same dictionary, p.799 under "Grant": *Grant*1, Cary (1904-86), British-born American actor; born /Alexander Archibald Leach./ He acted in more than seventy films, including /Holiday/ (1938) and /The Philadelphia Story/ (1940). *Grant*2, Duncan [James Corrow] (1885-1978), Scottish painter and designer, a pioneer of abstract art in Britain. He was a cousin of Lytton Strachey and a member of the Bloomsbury group. *Grant*3, Ulysses S. (1822-85), American general and 18th President of the US 1869-77; born /Hiram Ulysses Grant./ As supreme commander of the Unionist armies, he defeated the Confederate army in 1865 with a policy of attrition. *grant* |> *verb* [...] |> *noun* [...] >From the context I guess that you referred to Ulysses Grant (but it's just a guess). Sometimes my French "Petit Larousse Illustré" gives more complete definitions than Oxford even though it's about half as bulky. And here it does, but still no mention of his tomb. My translation (from the 2003 edition): GRANT (Cary) [...] GRANT (Ulysses), Point Pleasant, Ohio, 1822 - Mount McGregor, New York State, 1855, American general and statesman. Commander of the Federal forces at the end of the Secession war (1864-1865), he was president of the United States from 1869 to 1877. [Portrait by Thulstrup (Chicago)] I have only one encyclopedia and it's in French; on 4 CDs, and even after installing "all" of it to the HD it takes a h*** of a lot of time to load and requires its CD no.2 to be in the drive (so I don't use it much). It doesn't mention the tomb either. In this case I copy&paste, just FYI and only about Ulysses Grant (there are others: "main results" Cary Grant, James Augustus Grant, and "other resuls" sir Frederick Grant Banting, Colin Grant Clark and Grant Lee Buffalo): Ulysses Simpson Grant Général et homme d'état américain (Point Pleasant, Ohio, 1822-Mount McGregor, près de Saratoga, New York, 1885), 18e président des États-Unis. Général au début de la guerre de Sécession, il bat les confédérés à Belmont et s'empare des forts Donelson et Henry (1862). En 1863, il occupe Vicksburg et la vallée du Mississippi. Chef de l'armée nordiste avec le grade de lieutenant général, il est nommé après la guerre général de l'armée des États-Unis (1868) et secrétaire à la Guerre. Passé dans les rangs des républicains radicaux, il est élu président des États-Unis en 1868 et réélu en 1872. Sa présidence vit le renforcement du capitalisme industriel et une politique de coercition dans le Sud. © Larousse / VUEF 2001 ...so, "who is buried in Grant's tomb?" AFAICT, it is Grant. Probably Ulysses S. Grant. > which are above-ground structures. You entomb them. So, who is > entombed in Grant's Tomb? Grant and his wife. > > > So tell me, smart guy: > > > > Who wrote the Code Napoléon? > > The French Council of State (including J. J. Cambaceres) wrote the final > version, but five drafts had already been written before they started, > and what the wrote was called the French Civil Code from 1804 until > 1807. then renamed to "Code Napoleon." > > While Napoleon was not the author of the Code Napoleon, he was involved > in it's creation. Napoleon presided at 36 of the 84 council sessions, > and signed the final document with "Bonaparte, First Consul." OK. I would have accepted "Cambacérès" as an answer, though he was not "sole" author of it. > > > What was the first name of Napoleon III? > > His full name was Charles Louis Napoleon Bonaparte, but he was > usually called Louis Napoleon. Right. Well, his "first" name was Charles then. > > > What was the mother language of Charles XIV of Sweden? > > Considering that his name was Marshal Jean Bernadotte and > that he was born in Pau on the Gave de Pau River, I would > assume that his mother language was French. Right. > > > In which French département lies most of the course of the Var river? > > One would think that the the Var river would be found in the Var > departement, but it flows through Nice. Speaking of the Var river, > I have always wanted to visit the Daluis gorges. I hear that they > are quite spectacular. Well, you didn't spell out the answer, but you're near enough. The Var river doesn't run through the Var département at all; most of its length is in the Alpes-Maritimes (whose headtown is Nice) though about midway it makes a short détour through the Alpes-de-Haute-Provence. > > > Where is the oldest Pils beer brewed? > > Pilsen in Bohemia (now the Czech republic). OK. Pilsen is the German (also English) name of the city, called Plzen (with a diacrtitic on the n) in Czech. > > In 1842 The brewers in Pilsen had developed an unusually pale malt > and combined it with a sample of the Carlsberg bottom-fermenting > yeast smuggled in from Munich by a Bavarian monk and produced > the world’s first Pilsener beer. The Carlsberg brewery in > Copenhagen was already producing Pilsen malts in 1842, but they > were relatively dark. And you knew all that off the top of your head? Or did you have to research it? Regards, Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 10:04:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 02:04:28 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >> Nobody is buried in Grant's tomb. You don't bury people in tombs, > >Oh no? Let's see what my reference works say, since you told me to >look into them. > >New Oxford Dictionary of English, © 1998-2001, p.247 under "bury": > >[...[ >* (usu. *be buried*) place (a dead body) in the earth, in a tomb, or in the >sea, usually with funeral rites: /he was buried in St. John's churchyard./ >[...] > >p.1950 under "tomb": >*tomb* |> *noun* a large vault, typically an underground one, for burying >the dead. [...] * a monument to the memory of a dead person, erected over >their burial place [...] > >So, AFAICT, people are buried, among other places, in tombs. Point well taken. People are buried in that subset of tombs that are below ground, but are entombed, not buried in that subset of tombs that are above ground. >...so, "who is buried in Grant's tomb?" AFAICT, it is Grant. Probably >Ulysses S. Grant. In my opinion, this highlights a flaw in the wording of that question. While "Grant's Tomb" may be well know in the U.S., it is clearly not well-known internationally, which tells me that I need to modify the question so that it excludes Cary Grant, etc. This will also remove any question as to whether his tomb is an underground or abovground tomb. >And you knew all that off the top of your head? Or did you have to >research it? I knew that Charles XIV of Sweden was from France and where the beer came from, but had to look up the specifics. The other questions I did not know the answers to, but found them within five minutes or so of searching. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:32:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Funnies Message-ID: [sport] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030203.gif [a good tailor] http://dilbert.com/comics/fatcats/archive/images/fatcats23658070030203. gif => http://tinyurl.com/59ge [reroutes...] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020303.gif [roflmao, another cat joke] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/mb/2003/mb030203.gif ["another shot of whisky and maybe i'll be ready"] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030203.gif [what a maroon!] http://dilbert.com/comics/hedge/archive/images/hedge23658070030203.gif [more cats] http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030120.gif [tech support and - bonus! - spam] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005223.gif It's ok if only syl follows the links... But I am kinda curious 'bout the rest of yous... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:36:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:36:12 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:50:40 -0800, GregR wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > >> Not just bondage, but foot fetish stuff. So, lots of naked feet. > > Zoom, zoom, zoom - another attempted joke wasted (or was it?..). > > You guys are really depressing the heck out of my writing staff... :-) > >> I'm getting the vapors here. > > <"Airplane" mode> > > "I sure picked a lousy week to stop sniffing glue..." > > > Joke? Naked feet are not humorous. Check out the pictures: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.shtml and http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/art2/dirtyfeet73.jpg Those feet are clearly filthy. Wow, are there possibly 72 other pictures of dirty feet there? I meant vapors (or should it be vapours) in the Victorian feeling weak at the knees overwhelmed by forbidden pleasures sense. But I guess that's a little old fashioned of me. Sorry, I spend way too much time writing XML in real life, shouldn't that actually be something like to be well formed? Is this whole thing where my refusal to ever use those smiley face things gets me in trouble? Oh well. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:47:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:47:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:02:22 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > > "Mr. K Mean" got "100% correct" in another subthread for answers to > several questions including "oak" for Old Ironsides so I didn't bother > about that one. Woo hoo! Go team! So did we get all the answers finally, or are there still a few left that need to be Googled into submission? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:45:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:45:36 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:10:29 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > Well, thanks anyway. My notions of US geography are rather vague anyway. I > do know that Manhattan is "the" central island of New York City but don't > ask me to be more precise than that. I thought Manhattan was widely known to be the center of the universe. But I'm just some guy from the Mid-west so I could be wrong. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:52:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 06:52:09 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: | mail it from another state (via help of an | accomplice), but rolled in poison ivy first. (Not sure if she ever | followed through... lol... and afraid to ask....) I strongly recommend against the last one as it a) will expose innocent postal works b) would be considered an act of a bio-terroist c) under current situation will get you into a load of dodo From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 12:52:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:52:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Sun, 02 Feb 2003 22:54:55 -0800, GregR wrote: > Every day millions of images go to your brain, but as you know only some > of these are focused. To prove this scientific hypothesis try the > following test: > > Stare at this picture (http://tinyurl.com/597r) and try to find the car in > the shortest possible time. > > Results: > > Average time for a man: 12.46 minutes > > Average time for a woman: 1.23 seconds To be truly scientific, I think you need more pictures and tests. But actually, she was a bit nasty looking. I guess I don't go for that cheap slutty look. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 14:02:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:02:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1gvll$7m0$2@news.spamcop.net... > >I'm happy to say I've never watched a Martha Stewart show or anything. I > saw five minutes of her once and she was SO boring I couldn't understand > why anyone likes her! > > I have to say the same thing (boring) about Emeril. Zzzz....he needs to take some tips from Jamie Oliver. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 15:29:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 10:29:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93174CB3B1B9Ccharles@216.154.195.60... | It's ok if only syl follows the links... But I am kinda curious 'bout | the rest of yous... I've been following, but I already see alot of these same comics before I start to read the NG. I subscribe to UComics and Daily Dilbert. (I need my morning funnies- they get read before the NY Times ) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 15:54:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home Message-ID: Great people out there, This thread is due mainly because of Julian Haight's amateur shots showing at his homepage. For those who care, I encourage other SpamCop users to share what they see out of their window every day at home or office. Please use this link to check what I see every morning: http://www.schwartzconsultores.com.br/schwartz-panavue.jpg Regards, Fernando. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 15:59:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:59:15 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Mr K. Mean wrote: > >On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:02:22 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > >> >> "Mr. K Mean" got "100% correct" in another subthread for answers to >> several questions including "oak" for Old Ironsides so I didn't bother >> about that one. > >Woo hoo! Go team! So did we get all the answers finally, or are there >still a few left that need to be Googled into submission? I am about to leave for work, so I don't have time to double check. I will do so this evening. In case someone wishes to save me the trouble, here is that list again: The Ultimate Easy Quiz... [01] How long did the Hundred Years War last? [02] What was New Mexico named after? [03] Which country makes most Panama hats? [04] In the story "1001 Arabian nights" what nationality was Aladdin? [05] What nationality were the original Pensylvania Dutch? [06] From which animal do we get catgut? [07] Which U.S State is the northernmost? Southernmost? Easternmost? Westernmost? [08] In which month do Russians celebrate the October Revolution? [09] What material was used to clad the sides of the US warship "Old Ironsides"?. [10] What is a Camel Hair Brush made of? [11] The Canary Islands are named after what animal? [12] What was King George VI's first name? [13] What color is a purple finch? [14] Where do the Cuban Lily and Confederate Rose come from? [15] Upon what hill was the Battle of Bunker Hill fought? [16] Who is buried in (U.S.) Grant's tomb? [17] What bird has the scientific name Puffinus puffinus puffinus? [18] What is another word for Thesaurus? Hint: One word, eight letters, one letter is used three times, another letter is used twice, and I found it in Roget’s Thesaurus. [19] What color are White Rhinos? [20] How long did the Thirty Years War last? [21] A man leaves his small cabin and travels due south for one mile. He then turns 90 degrees and travels due east for one mile, at which point he shoots a bear. He then turns 90 degrees and travels due north for one mile and finds himself at his cabin in the exact spot he left from. [21a] What color is the bear? [21b] What direction is the wind blowing from at the cabin? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:08:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:08:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: In news:b1m3ao$98h$1@news.spamcop.net, fernando@axnet.net typed: > Great people out there, > > This thread is due mainly because of Julian Haight's amateur shots > showing at his homepage. > > For those who care, I encourage other SpamCop users to share what > they see out of their window every day at home or office. > > Please use this link to check what I see every morning: > http://www.schwartzconsultores.com.br/schwartz-panavue.jpg Looks like Ipanima beach? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:16:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:16:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sunday funnies References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1jkv1$oqc$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "Charles" wrote in message | news:Xns93165A25EA317charles@216.154.195.60... | > [For Kram ;)] | > http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030119.gif | | LOL, love this one | I laughed at that one too. I like the litttle line in the title frame "practice your meows". :) Well ... "my" Sylvester won't be coming with me. He's going to be staying with *his* human (that cat follows him around like a puppy). Plus I don't think it would be fair to him to take away his apartment building roaming rights. He is so used to just wandering in and out of everybody's apartments at will, that cooping him up in one apartment would be cruel. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:18:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > I've been following, but I already see alot of these same comics > before I start to read the NG. I subscribe to UComics and Daily > Dilbert. (I need my morning funnies- they get read before the NY > Times ) Doesn't the ucomics sub cost money? It's almost as simple to link directly to the pages, I think (but it does take a bit longer than loading one page).... I read the NYT first, when it shows up, but this morning... Sigh... The delivery person is really unreliable... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:30:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:30:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b1m46j$9va$1@news.spamcop.net... | In news:b1m3ao$98h$1@news.spamcop.net, fernando@axnet.net typed: | > Great people out there, | > | > This thread is due mainly because of Julian Haight's amateur shots | > showing at his homepage. | > | > For those who care, I encourage other SpamCop users to share what | > they see out of their window every day at home or office. | > | > Please use this link to check what I see every morning: | > http://www.schwartzconsultores.com.br/schwartz-panavue.jpg | | Looks like Ipanima beach? Because of the .br - I think it *might* be somewhere in Brazil? :-) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:31:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote: >Looks like Ipanima beach? Close. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:46:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:46:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93177304E785Echarles@216.154.195.60... | It wasn't me! It was kram! | | > I've been following, but I already see alot of these same comics | > before I start to read the NG. I subscribe to UComics and Daily | > Dilbert. (I need my morning funnies- they get read before the NY | > Times ) | | Doesn't the ucomics sub cost money? It's almost as simple to link | directly to the pages, I think (but it does take a bit longer than | loading one page).... | | I read the NYT first, when it shows up, but this morning... Sigh... | The delivery person is really unreliable... | Oops, my bad. Not UComics (though the NYT online links to them) Comics.com - you pick which comics you want every day and they email them to you - no charge. And the addy that I use only for NYTimes.com and Comics.com has never been spammed (knock wood). Their selection isn't as broad as UComics, but when reading my Times, I browse through what UComics has. I only get the paper version of NYT on Sundays - nothing better than sitting around with mounds and mounds of newspaper and some coffee. And the puzzle! -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. Just thought of something - I'm going to have to call the Times and change my delivery address. (Another PITA about moving - figuring out who needs to know the new address) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 16:56:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > And the puzzle! Arg! I mean, arg! We were getting pretty good at doing the globe puzzles and then we switched papers... The NYT puzzles aren't necessarily harder (even though we're not finishing many these days) but they definitely have a different -style- to them. And when you get a puzzle (some of the Fridays or Saturdays) where every single clue is a double-entendre, it gets really tiring really quickly, imo... I guess that we'll learn, eh? Make new connections between our synapses and then -bing!- it'll all be so simple! Uh. Right? With the globe we were comfortable enough with them that we could pick the puzzle writer just from the style of the puzzle. We are far from anything like that with the nyt ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 17:06:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was perseus! In the continued effort to rate .help messages, perhaps we should rate the questionners as well as the answerers... I don't feel like figuring out categories right this second, but I think that this particular message is a good place to start... > YOU are > blocking my emails to my online database! Please remove this > immediatlly.. Some explanation of how they work and then of what is happening and then - oh no! - a gross misunderstanding of how spamcop works! > Here is a copy of the error message... Really, extra special bonus points to the poster who actually gives the error message! Yeah! But why didn't s/he read the material at the posted link? People are just so unclever sometimes! Anyway, we'd probably have to add a special, negative category for cartooniness (please not that cartonney is not a word and if I was master of the universe and everything I'd just banish it forever! Ha! Heck, I might just banish the 'e' an in 'La Disparition' which was, oddly, written by this dude with at least 4 e's in his name). So, this post is mostly courteous, isn't very long, gives the error message, is a little cartoony... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 17:15:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:15:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: In news:b1m5ha$akn$1@news.spamcop.net, fernando@axnet.net typed: > "YK" wrote: > >> Looks like Ipanima beach? > > Close. I was staying in Rio on Copacabana beach and had some spare time on my business trip so I walked to Pau de Sucre (sp) all the way back to to end of Ipanima beach. Trying to remember the name of the hotel. It was a neet hotel called the Royal (something or other) just before the military post in between the Copa and Ipanima beaches. Had a great meal at a Churascaria (sp) called Murios (I believe.) This was in the mid '80s. I had to be careful of the ciparinga (sp) drinks as they went straight to my head but they were real delicious. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 17:20:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:20:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9317798AC95D9charles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was kram! | || And the puzzle! | | Arg! I mean, arg! We were getting pretty good at doing the globe | puzzles and then we switched papers... The NYT puzzles aren't | necessarily harder (even though we're not finishing many these days) | but they definitely have a different -style- to them. And when you | get a puzzle (some of the Fridays or Saturdays) where every single | clue is a double-entendre, it gets really tiring really quickly, | imo... I guess that we'll learn, eh? Make new connections between | our synapses and then -bing!- it'll all be so simple! Uh. Right? | With the globe we were comfortable enough with them that we could | pick the puzzle writer just from the style of the puzzle. We are far | from anything like that with the nyt ;) The Sunday puzzle always has some "hook" to it. It will drive me crazy until that *pow* moment...."I GET IT!!!!" and then the rest of the hooks are easy....well maybe not easy, but easier :) There was one a while ago, that I just couldn't get, so I put the puzzle aside and was doing something else when it hit me....they're using numbers for words! If it gets really bad, I'll download the puzzle (that _is_ a paid subscription) and stare at it at random points in the day during which I am supposed to be working. Obsessive??? Nah! -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 17:21:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (DeAnna) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:21:19 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1loo5$23e$1@news.spamcop.net... > | mail it from another state (via help of an > | accomplice), but rolled in poison ivy first. (Not sure if she ever > | followed through... lol... and afraid to ask....) > > I strongly recommend against the last one as it a) will expose innocent > postal works b) would be considered an act of a bio-terroist c) under > current situation will get you into a load of dodo Actually, she was going to carefully open the package, 'treat' the toy, and hermetically re-seal it, just as if it had come like that. All handling would be done with gloves, with clean gloves going on to repackage and send. So it would only expose the intended recipient. She had it pretty well planned out.... (he ran off with a co-worker). Like I said, I don't think she ever went through with it... but I am still afraid to ask.... lol. Don't ask, don't tell... I always say. D. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:01:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:01:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Anti-Valentine Message-ID: http://www.rowanlea.com/novelties/xw-index.html Now *here's* a site I might take advantage of Thanks to the fine folks at Earthlink's monthly newsletter....how'd they know???? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:52:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:52:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > > > > **I must have missed the x-rated page, I never saw his bum on there.. ;) > > He was more in heaven with their local "Links" course. :-) > **What the hell are you talking about now?? Did your train of thought derail or something? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:48:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 18:48:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote: >I was staying in Rio on Copacabana beach and had some spare time on my >business trip so I walked to Pau de Sucre (sp) all the way back to to end of >Ipanima beach. Trying to remember the name of the hotel. It was a neet >hotel called the Royal (something or other) just before the military post in >between the Copa and Ipanima beaches. Had a great meal at a Churascaria >(sp) called Murios (I believe.) This was in the mid '80s. I had to be >careful of the ciparinga (sp) drinks as they went straight to my head but >they were real delicious. These are the traditional memories from the city. Much has changed since then. The picture in question was taken at the roof top of my apartment building, 25-floor high. This can provide a 360-degree view of the area. From my office, I look at the same beach from the opposite side. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:50:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:50:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1hm6q$m72$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It had 3 episodes on it I think. One was a business trip to some seaside > town where the others all came along. Gary and Tony stole a fiberglass > landmark (big fish) and took it to the room. The maid found out and to > keep her quiet they were giving away the girls' clothes. Another was > about Gary and Dorothy trying to make a baby and I think he kept renting > porn tapes and 'practicing' on his own instead of with Dorothy. The last > was where Tony becomes a postie and is very boring so Debs wants to dump > him and the office is closing but Gary has trouble telling the staff. > **It sounds like the ones in the program guide, hopefully they'll show more than just three, then again their idea of a "marathon" is to show three shows for 12 hours.... Missed The Office again last night, took the dogs out, just sat down to watch it and my dog started having a full blown panic attack - she reacts very badly to changes in the weather, apparently, the high winds set her off....we were up vewwwwy late.... :( From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:51:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:51:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1hm17$m5u$2@news.spamcop.net... > |> some of them had SKID MARKS on them!!! AAAAAAGHGHGHGGHGHG! > | > > | ***Eww... well, at least they weren't yours...how long did he last? > > Do your *really* want an answer to that question? > ***Heh...doesn't sound like an answer she'd know anyway... LOL (you have a dirty mind........) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 18:57:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 13:57:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anti-Valentine References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1majg$eh5$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.rowanlea.com/novelties/xw-index.html > > Now *here's* a site I might take advantage of > Thanks to the fine folks at Earthlink's monthly newsletter....how'd they > know???? > **Picture or no, I don't think I'd want any part of *him* touching me....bleah! How'd it go with the landlord in your friend's building? Have you been yet? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:11:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:11:58 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EBEFE.DCB8C471@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > Old enough to know better, still too young to resist but regardless too old > to be effective. lol. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:20:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:20:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB559.A4B0C461@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EC0E1.A1B7B93C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Borgholio wrote: > > > > > Simple room-temperature fusion was the power source. :) Room temperature fusion? I thought it was something far warmer than that. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:19:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:19:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB4D2.54498FB3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3E0A38.CDF2E5DA@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3EC0B5.13AE77B5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Frog Prince wrote: > > > VonBraun and others were doing rocket research in the 1920s (+/-) the German > > super weapons were the end result. > > As was Goddard on this side of the pond - in fact, in 1914 he received patents > for a liquid-fueled rocket and a two- or three-stage solid-fueled one: > > http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/service/gallery/fact_sheets/general/goddard/goddard.htm > > -- All I can say is it was a good thing the Nazis was not able to bring their rocket program into practical use. (Bombers? Who needs bombers?) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:23:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:23:55 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3DB559.A4B0C461@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC0E1.A1B7B93C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3EC0E1.A1B7B93C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Borgholio wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Simple room-temperature fusion was the power source. :) > > Room temperature fusion? I thought it was something far warmer than that. > > With todays technology, yeah. But room temperature fusion (if it can be done) is far better than standard fusion. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:30:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:30:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EC370.E54A10C7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > Covered by laughs and tech support in getting my butt out of what ever I > (and MS) manage to get myself into. > > BTW you are officially a Honorary Coon Ass. (which is a bit less, socially, > than a Registered Coon Ass) Only if I get to live upwind from the swamp. And call me "Gaston". :-) http://users.erols.com/aburner/deadlands/coonass.html http://www.geocities.com/~darsplace/star_trek_vault/humor113.html http://www.fire-spice.com/coonass.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:35:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:35:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anti-Valentine References: Message-ID: In news:b1mdu0$i0b$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "kram" wrote in message | news:b1majg$eh5$1@news.spamcop.net... || http://www.rowanlea.com/novelties/xw-index.html || || Now *here's* a site I might take advantage of || Thanks to the fine folks at Earthlink's monthly newsletter....how'd || they know???? || | **Picture or no, I don't think I'd want any part of *him* touching | me....bleah! I was figuring on buying a roll and then leaving it in the "emergency roll" spot for the next time he needed :) | How'd it go with the landlord in your friend's building? Have you been yet? I got there too late on Friday & Saturday (the only contact I had for him was at the store and they were closed) - finally caught up with him on Sunday morning. The place is ****cheap**** but I haven't been able to look at it yet, as they didn't give him a set of keys when they changed the lock the last time, and they didn't drop off the keys on Saturday after they moved out. He told me that there was a woman in the building that was interested in the place for her 20 yr old daughter, but he would rather rent it to someone a little more 'mature'......so I left a message with my freind to _please_ drop off the keys so I can look at it. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:41:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:41:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Low Country Boil.. References: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EC5CC.4BC33672@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Charles wrote: > > > ain't ne'er et nun o' dat, but it shoar doan look lik its reel > compelkated. > > Actually, it looks pretty lame - if you asked me. 2 boxes of random > seafood seasoning is the only flavor added to it? Sheesh. It's white > trash food! Don't get me wrong - it might be tasty enough, but I am > not impressed. Okay.. thats a "zing." (Used by the local food shows on the radio for "thumbs down".) > Heck, it looks a lot like clam stew or similar that you > make when you go on a clam bake. It's great when you're out on the > beach all day, but it's not usually what I prepare at home where my > expectations are higher, pantry is readily accessible, etc. > A plus about it would be that you could substitute any random seafood > or not clean the crab and have food for bazillions in under half an > hour. > Figure it was for making something fast for a number of people. (Works for an outting or camping maybe?) > "when the water comes back to a boil, pour off water" > As in, conserve the water as broth or as in you only eat the lumpy > parts? Serves 30? So, each person gets 4/5 of an ear of corn, 1/2 > pound of shrimp, 1/60 bushel of crab (according to > you get 60 - 72 jumbo crabs per bushel so > each person is getting a whole jumbo blue crab - they really don't have > much meat on 'em!), 5/12 lb of sausage (~7oz) uand some certain amount > of msg. Let's call it a pound of meat/seafood and an ear of corn. > Dang. They must be big eaters in the low country... > A pound is alot? :-) > Now, let's look at this another way... > 7oz sausage ~ 560 calories > 1/2 lb shrimp ~ 240 calories > 4/5 ear of corn ~ 100 calories > blue crab ~ 100 calories > msg ~ negligeable calories > => 1000 calories > Which isn't actually going to get us anywhere because if we try to look > up the number of calories that you need each day we find that > 'experts' give answers from 2000 to over 3500 just for me. > > So, to answer your question, 12. It could work if that is just the "lunch" out of another 1000 calories thru breakfast and dinner. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:41:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:41:54 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Low Country Boil.. References: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EC602.5E2220C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> YK wrote: > In news:3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com, Redstone typed: > > .. aka Frogmore Stew. > > > > Opnions? > > http://www.seafoodrecipe.com/AZ/FrgmrStw.asp plus a lot more sites on > Google. > > I like the shrimp pealed and devained maybe add a cubed salmon filet. Okay.. I'd call this a "ding." ("Thumbs up" on the local food shows on the radio.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:48:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:48:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Factoids of the Wierd. References: <3E3DD10C.BFEA6C28@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3EC77B.8A550192@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Wish I still had the link that I got it from.. (Bored and stumbled upon it.) Should of pasted up a disclaimer.. oh well. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:51:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:51:26 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Anybody watch the premiere tonight? I'd be interested in any feedback > (good or bad, doesn't matter). > > Based only on the promos that have aired for the past several weeks, it > looked really interesting and I'd picked it as a high quality mid-season > winner. Local paper agrees with my assessment, though USA Today only > gave it fair-to-middling reviews. > > Comments? > > -- Tonight or last night? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:56:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:56:47 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3EC97F.6707CA3E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> DeAnna wrote: > You mean a male actually *saw* a car in that pic??? > > > Average time for a man: 12.46 minutes > > > > Average time for a woman: 1.23 seconds > > > > I'd have to see proof to believe that.... > > lol > > BTW- I think someone needs to take up a collection to buy that poor gal some clothes... it > looks like she outgrew those around the time she hit puberty.... > > D. It is California.. and it does tend to get warm. (Corduroys just don't cut it on the westcoast.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:56:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 14:56:02 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Every day millions of images go to your brain, but as you know only some > of these are focused. To prove this scientific hypothesis try the > following test: > > Stare at this picture (http://tinyurl.com/597r) and try to find the car > in the shortest possible time. > > Results: > > Average time for a man: 12.46 minutes > > Average time for a woman: 1.23 seconds > > -- Car? What Car? I've been blinded by the moon.. (two moons actually.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 19:55:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Low Country Boil.. References: <3E3DC6D5.830FE37E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC5CC.4BC33672@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > Okay.. thats a "zing." (Used by the local food shows on the radio > for "thumbs down".) Huh. I didn't know that they rated food on car talk... (That was a joke, son.) [...] > Figure it was for making something fast for a number of people. > (Works for an outting or camping maybe?) Right. Perfect for a clam dig (a day at the beach) or camping. Just not something that I would eat elsewhere. > A pound is alot? Fur a little feller like myself, ayup! Tee hee. So, yeah, annecdote... I, uh, figured out my BMI (for that age quiz we took a while ago) and it said that I was overweight! Arg! No way! Well, in fact, no way! I just had my physical done and our home scale weighs me at -almost- 20 pounds over my actual weight! Oof! > It could work if that is just the "lunch" out of another 1000 > calories thru breakfast and dinner. Yeah, but what about the msg? Inquiring minds want to know... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:03:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > The Sunday puzzle always has some "hook" to it. Eetz a joak! Ha ha! Harry Hook often does the Sunday ones! Ha ha! (Somebody Hook.) > It will drive me > crazy until that *pow* moment...."I GET IT!!!!" and then the rest > of the hooks are easy....well maybe not easy, but easier :) There > was one a while ago, that I just couldn't get, so I put the puzzle > aside and was doing something else when it hit me....they're using > numbers for words! If it gets really bad, I'll download the puzzle > (that _is_ a paid subscription) and stare at it at random points > in the day during which I am supposed to be working. Obsessive??? > Nah! Ok, I'll admit to being a losah - I can't finish them. How often do you finish one completely? (We've started doing them one week after the fact so that we can cheat when necessary!) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:00:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Factoids of the Wierd. References: <3E3DD10C.BFEA6C28@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC77B.8A550192@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > > Wish I still had the link that I got it from.. (Bored and stumbled > upon it.) > > Should of pasted up a disclaimer.. oh well. :) And? You got it from a link, so that makes it all better? :) I found pretty much the same message in many places on the web. People will believe the craziest things... Anyway, it did lead me to a really interesting (fake) story on snopes... Seems they were learning to use microscopes in class one day and the prof had every one scrape the inside of their mouths with a toothpick so that they could look at what they might find... The drop- dead gorgeous blond who is also an airhead finds really cool things and everyone has a look and laughs and then they finally tell her that it was sperm... And then people go forwarding this crap around. It's simply amazing... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:06:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > LOL... it's now quite warm too after a cool start. Yeah, same here. Criminy! We're up in the 40's without a cloud in the sky... "I'm melting!" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:05:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:05:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3ECB7E.CDFCD721@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > Actually he was still alive and some say at his best. Was this when he had his white zoot suit? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:05:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: PAY BACK was Getting Dumped References: <3E39EDC3.86C4769D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEB99.BE7DCABD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB074.DCECC24A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Redstone! > You sure are braver than I woudl ever be. Ah, it wasn't that bad, just gross :) But, maybe it wasn't bravery... Maybe I was on the brink of starvation (putting myself through school) and and and I was going crazy with stress (from school) and needed a nice break from all of that and then - bing! - he proposes non-school work ($$) coupled with the offer of food and relaxation! Maybe I'm just an opportunist! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:06:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:06:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3ECBA8.7270F836@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > > > > > > > **I must have missed the x-rated page, I never saw his bum on there.. ;) > > > > He was more in heaven with their local "Links" course. :-) > > > **What the hell are you talking about now?? Did your train of thought > derail or something? Links.. Links.. as in golf. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:12:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 15:12:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > I don't think they had sufficient consumable or delta v to make the trip to > the station. As to a space walk no EVA equipment on this flight. > > NASA has been playing with a remote 'flyable' camera that would have helped > survay the area but .... So there was actually NOTHING they could really have do. So in future flights? Pack at least 1 EVA suit, or maybe put a satellite in orbit built specifically for inspection of the shuttle hull, or USE the flyable camera. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:18:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:18:12 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame11.html References: <3E376A86.8080400@privacy.net> <3E376DC8.573171B1@spamcop.net> <3E384E89.25AAC9A5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39ECB8.689F5037@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEA5E.1FFAEDDD@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3C4198.DDFC8D9C@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECBA8.7270F836@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3ECBA8.7270F836@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Heidi wrote: > > > "Redstone" wrote in message > > news:3E3DB8EE.E53DD097@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > **I must have missed the x-rated page, I never saw his bum on there.. ;) > > > > > > He was more in heaven with their local "Links" course. :-) > > > > > **What the hell are you talking about now?? Did your train of thought > > derail or something? > > Links.. Links.. as in golf. :-) > **What's that got to do with Indi's bum in picture? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:25:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:25:52 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9317992CD918Ccharles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was kram! | || The Sunday puzzle always has some "hook" to it. | | Eetz a joak! Ha ha! Harry Hook often does the Sunday ones! Ha ha! | (Somebody Hook.) That name is extremely familiar. The only one that I remember by name is Will Shortz, the editor, because his name is on every puzzle. | Ok, I'll admit to being a losah - I can't finish them. How often do | you finish one completely? (We've started doing them one week after | the fact so that we can cheat when necessary!) My finish rate (if you count that I will stare at the same puzzle for a week) is about 95%. Then again I have been known to carry the thing around with me and ask people 'what is a 6 letter word beginning with X' meaning "6th Century hermit" :) Plus it helps to have freinds and aquaintences that have very esoteric trivia imbedded in their brains. And also that the online version allows you to cheat somewhat. There is setting that says "mark incorrect answers" that I usually leave off until I get too crazy and check. There is also an option to really cheat and have them give you the answer, but I never do that with the regular puzzles - only the Cryptics because sometimes a british term for something is totally alien to me ;) Do you do cryptics??? They really make your brain work.... -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:32:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:32:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: In news:b1mj6v$nsf$1@news.spamcop.net, kram said something that sounded like: |freinds and aquaintences It does help that most of the time I *can* spell :( friends and acquaintances Just not today...... -- KK == Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:41:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 12:41:45 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Frog Prince wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think they had sufficient consumable or delta v to make the trip to > > the station. As to a space walk no EVA equipment on this flight. > > > > NASA has been playing with a remote 'flyable' camera that would have helped > > survay the area but .... > > So there was actually NOTHING they could really have do. > > So in future flights? Pack at least 1 EVA suit, or maybe put a satellite in > orbit built specifically for inspection of the shuttle hull, or USE the flyable > camera. > > > That's assuming they still use the shuttle. There are several "space plane" projects currently in production....most of them involve solid metal skins without the need for protective tiles. One or two of them are even designed to take-off and land horzontally, as conventional aircraft do. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 20:55:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:55:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anti-Valentine References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1mg3q$kkf$1@news.spamcop.net... > I was figuring on buying a roll and then leaving it in the "emergency roll" > spot for the next time he needed :) **Oh yeah, that's another thing - when you leave, take *all* the toilet paper (c'mon, you're going to be moving, you're going to need things...). Like, even the one off the roll......and then leave maybe the one 'fond remembrance'... ;) > > I got there too late on Friday & Saturday (the only contact I had for him > was at the store and they were closed) - finally caught up with him on > Sunday morning. The place is ****cheap**** but I haven't been able to look > at it yet, as they didn't give him a set of keys when they changed the lock > the last time, and they didn't drop off the keys on Saturday after they > moved out. He told me that there was a woman in the building that was > interested in the place for her 20 yr old daughter, but he would rather rent > it to someone a little more 'mature'......so I left a message with my freind > to _please_ drop off the keys so I can look at it. > **Good that you jumped on that when you did - it can't be that much of a dive, can it? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 21:53:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:53:09 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECB7E.CDFCD721@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > Actually he was still alive and some say at his best. | | Was this when he had his white zoot suit? I have no idea. I enjoyed his music and say him perform once (just before he died). Managed to score front row stage center seats. (Don't ask -- suffice to say it was *politics*) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 22:01:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 16:01:13 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E39EE09.9E3793A6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > | ***Eww... well, at least they weren't yours...how long did he last? | > | > Do your *really* want an answer to that question? | > | ***Heh...doesn't sound like an answer she'd know anyway... LOL (you have a | dirty mind........) I spend my whole life becoming a dirty old man do you think I'd waste my time this late in the game. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 21:55:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 15:55:06 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC370.E54A10C7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | | Only if I get to live upwind from the swamp. And call me "Gaston". :-) When you live in the swamp at least half the place is up wind. BTW do you know what a coon ass is? > < < < < < < < < < < < that brown spot under a coon's tail. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 22:48:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:48:41 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > Frog Prince wrote: > > > > > > > I don't think they had sufficient consumable or delta v to make the trip to > > the station. True at the end of the mission, but they could have made it to the ISS if they knew they had a problem within a day or two of reaching orbit. >As to a space walk no EVA equipment on this flight. > > Wrong. 2 crew members are *always* EVA trained (and have suits onboard), but _only_ to fix a jammed antenna or a stuck bay door latch because there's nothing else they can fix in orbit. > > NASA has been playing with a remote 'flyable' camera that would have helped > > survay the area but .... > > So there was actually NOTHING they could really have do. > So in future flights? Pack at least 1 EVA suit, or maybe put a satellite in > orbit built specifically for inspection of the shuttle hull, or USE the flyable > camera. > Or not let any shuttle launch without a robot arm. One of the crew had done a study last year (the irony) of doing just such an inspection of the belly without an arm to lift him there. Conclusion: It would take more time than they carry oxygen for, and that was just to get there and come back, let alone actually attempt any kind of repair. Which leads me to my next "statement" -- on-orbit repair of tiles is impossible for a multitude of reasons, the primary one being that almost every single tile is different. Early attempts were made on the ground to come up with a kind of "caulk gun" to seal the area, but it ended up damaging more tiles instead of fixing the bad one...... And don't anyone count on any NASA "X" program shuttle replacement -- that was de-scoped and de-funded 2 years ago, and any concept still being looked at is least 20 years away from flying. The "fix", IMHO, is for 1) keeping the foam/ice from falling off the main tank in the first place (if that's what caused the damage), and 2) actually get the "flying camera" being looked at for the ISS into production, so if there's any fears of tile damage the crew can look for it, and at least has the chance to abandon ship at the ISS. For all we know a relatively small micro-meteriorite or piece of space junk skimmed/bounced/struck the shuttle and tore up some tiles. Wouldn't surprise me a bit, and nobody onboard would notice it even happened. As far as how long it will be until we fly again......it has to be within a year or so. Russia only has enough rockets to keep the ISS supplied for another year (it will take 2 years to start up the production line again), and if we have to abandon it the ISS it will fall apart. More than half of the ISS crew's time is taken up doing maintenance. Space flight is, and always will be, inherently risky, regardless of how safe we try to make it. All we can do is raise the odds a bit....... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 3 22:55:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:55:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 07:59:15 -0800, Guy Macon wrote: >>Woo hoo! Go team! So did we get all the answers finally, or are there >>still a few left that need to be Googled into submission? > > I am about to leave for work, so I don't have time to double check. I will > do so this evening. In case someone wishes to save me the trouble, here > is that list again: > > [02] What was New Mexico named after? Origin of state's name: Named by the Spanish for lands north of the Rio Grande River > [03] Which country makes most Panama hats? Ecuador > [07] Which U.S State is the northernmost? Southernmost? > Easternmost? Westernmost? http://www.ce.utexas.edu/prof/maidment/CE397/project/us1.gif North- Besides Alaska, Minnesota East - Maine West - Besides Alaska, Washington South - Besides Hawaii, Florida > [20] How long did the Thirty Years War last? 30 years, duh From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 00:15:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Leonard Q. Public) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 17:15:50 -0700 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [SpamCop-List] Re: Blacklisting due to KLEZ virus? References: Message-ID: "Maura Van Order-Clover" wrote in message news:mailman.1043976856.20603.spamcop-list@news.spamcop.net... > Thanks for everyone's extremely cordial and polite responses to my post. I > don't have to be polite but at least I make an effort. > > No need to keep this thread going, it ends here. I have no desire to trade > insults. But if voicing an honest opinion is considered "thin skinned" well > then I guess many if not most of the people on this list qualify easily for > that. > > As Khan said, "I'm laughing at the superior intellect..." > > Cheers to all, > Ms. M. > I thought I recognized the writing style at first but I couldn't place it. Then I remembered she may post another column under a pen name besides at mediapup.com. The insecurity, the wit... it must be.... It's Jean from "A Room of Jean's Own"! http://www.theonion.com/archive/archive_teasdale.html - Leonard From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 01:05:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:05:03 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit Mr K. Mean wrote: >> [02] What was New Mexico named after? > >Origin of state's name: Named by the Spanish for lands north of the Rio Grande River That's not the answer I have, but I am open to evidence that my information is incorrect. Here is my information: New Mexico was named during the 1500s after Mexico City, in the country named Nueva España - New Spain. The country called Mexico came into being hundreds of years later in 1821. >> [03] Which country makes most Panama hats? > >Ecuador Correct. >> [07] Which U.S State is the northernmost? Southernmost? >> Easternmost? Westernmost? > >http://www.ce.utexas.edu/prof/maidment/CE397/project/us1.gif That .gif only lists 48 states. There are 50. >North- Besides Alaska, Minnesota >East - Maine >West - Besides Alaska, Washington >South - Besides Hawaii, Florida Accepting Alaska as your answer for North and West and Hawaii as your answer for South, you got three out of four correct. >> [20] How long did the Thirty Years War last? > >30 years, duh Correct. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 01:40:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 20:40:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 17:05:03 -0800, Guy Macon wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: > >>> [02] What was New Mexico named after? >> >>Origin of state's name: Named by the Spanish for lands north of the Rio > Grande River > > That's not the answer I have, but I am open to evidence that my > information is incorrect. Here is my information: > > New Mexico was named during the 1500s after Mexico City, in the country > named Nueva España - New Spain. The country called Mexico came into being > hundreds of years later in 1821. > I got it from here. Whether it is correct or not, I don't know. http://www.50states.com/newmexic.htm > >>> [07] Which U.S State is the northernmost? Southernmost? >>> Easternmost? Westernmost? >> >>http://www.ce.utexas.edu/prof/maidment/CE397/project/us1.gif > > That .gif only lists 48 states. There are 50. Yeah, I know about the US having 50 states. I found the image interesting because it showed that Minnesota was the northern most state of the 48. The projection is wrapped right so that it shows the grid correctly. So, are you considering Alaska to also be the Easternmost state then? Does it cross over the date line somewhere? Maine would definitely be Easternmost if you exclude Hawaii and Alaska. Ah, I guess it does: http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/time_zone_world_98.jpg > >>North- Besides Alaska, Minnesota >>East - Maine >>West - Besides Alaska, Washington >>South - Besides Hawaii, Florida > > Accepting Alaska as your answer for North and West and Hawaii as your > answer for South, you got three out of four correct. > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 01:26:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 19:26:47 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Bond toy goes to war -- Message-ID: http://www.freedomjet.com/ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 02:01:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:01:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: Rating for this one Subject: SPEWS Message: SPEWS record number : S817 A brief, concise message, OT with subject line, signifying nothing. (Now if I could remember my Shakespeare, I could really make a good rating!) -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:00:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:00:58 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB2EC.C41E0367@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3DB2EC.C41E0367@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > He was quite a character, wasn't he? :-) (His methods for investigating > the Challenger disaster was required reading for an ethics course I took > for engineers. Fascinating to say the least.) Indeed he was. He had a unique way of looking at the world, even simple things like birds and trees. He truly was a genius and it's a shame he died so young (relatively speaking). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:05:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:05:09 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Cat" wrote in message news:3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net... > I'm a little curious about what they would have done if they had realized that > there was enough damage for them not to make it back safely. I wonder if they > would have had to get to the space station somehow and dock there to wait for a > rescue shuttle or something. I was wondering that too, especially as Columbia did not have the capability to dock with the ISS. I suppose they could have space walked over to it? I dunno. Likely they could survive on the shuttle for quite some time but it had already been a long mission relatively speaking so who knows. Seems to me that these damn tiles need to be replaced with something more hard wearing. Considering how very important they are you'd think they could come up with something that wasn't so fragile. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:09:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:09:48 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Doing it Over" by Erma Bombeck References: <3E3DD35A.CD8CDAEB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E3DD35A.CD8CDAEB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > IF I HAD MY LIFE TO LIVE OVER - by Erma Bombeck (written after she > found out she was dying from cancer). Happy to say, I already take many of these approaches to life and I haven't had a death sentence pronounced on me yet! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:15:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:15:11 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anti-Valentine References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1mg3q$kkf$1@news.spamcop.net... > I got there too late on Friday & Saturday (the only contact I had for him > was at the store and they were closed) - finally caught up with him on > Sunday morning. The place is ****cheap**** but I haven't been able to look > at it yet, as they didn't give him a set of keys when they changed the lock > the last time, and they didn't drop off the keys on Saturday after they > moved out. He told me that there was a woman in the building that was > interested in the place for her 20 yr old daughter, but he would rather rent > it to someone a little more 'mature'......so I left a message with my freind > to _please_ drop off the keys so I can look at it. Argh how frustrating! I wonder why it's so cheap. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:19:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:19:51 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Movie suggestions References: Message-ID: "Craig Sturdivant" wrote in message news:b1kv90$jma$1@news.spamcop.net... > Ok, I need some help in picking a movie. The last movie that my friend and > I saw was 25th Hour, and I gave her crap on how she picked yet another > crappy movie to watch (previous one she picked was The Ring). I've been > lucky and have picked several good ones (Catch Me If You Can and > Adaptation). This coming weekend we are planning on seeing another movie, > and it is my choice, and I am stuck. Since I gave her crap on how awful > 25th Hour was, I want to make sure that I am picking a winner. I am > thinking of The Recruit or Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind. Any thoughts on > those two movies? > I haven't seen either of those yet. I saw The Guru this past weekend which was great fun. I believe Shanghai Knights is coming out this weekend and if it's as good as Shanghai Noon you should enjoy it. Have you seen About Schmidt or Chicago? I loved Chicago and About Schmidt is one I have to see soon. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:21:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:21:43 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1l0av$k71$2@news.spamcop.net... > The 10PM news had an interview with a guy in east Texas that had contact > with some of the junk. > > Seems someone from NASA or the recovery folk told him, and he is serious > about this, that he 'had 48 hours to live' as a result. So is he dead now? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:33:35 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:33:35 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns9317798AC95D9charles@216.154.195.60... With the globe > we were comfortable enough with them that we could pick the puzzle > writer just from the style of the puzzle. We are far from anything > like that with the nyt ;) > I think you'd have a hard time fixing on any one puzzlemaker in the NYT as they use lots of them. One editor but many creators. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:42:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 22:42:53 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: | > The 10PM news had an interview with a guy in east Texas that had contact | > with some of the junk. | > | > Seems someone from NASA or the recovery folk told him, and he is serious | > about this, that he 'had 48 hours to live' as a result. | | So is he dead now? | No so anyone is reporting a death but (que spooky music here) THEY could be hiding the facts. Seems the FBI and local cops did a raid on someone who was collecting shuttle debris. Did not show the arrest but did who the team collecting around the apartment complex. Might have more later. Also NASA is warning people that there is a good chance of pyrotechnics in the debris. Things like explosive bolts and strips on escape doors. Sounds credible as TV showed some stuff being removed by explosive experts. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:40:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:40:22 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.03.12.52.24.441885@sneakemail.com... > To be truly scientific, I think you need more pictures and tests. But > actually, she was a bit nasty looking. I guess I don't go for that cheap > slutty look. Good for you! I tend to agree with your estimation of this particular 'bint'. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:41:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:41:28 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1lspa$4g1$1@news.spamcop.net... > I have to say the same thing (boring) about Emeril. Zzzz....he needs to > take some tips from Jamie Oliver. Ahuh... every time I flick channels and come across him it's snoozeville and I switch. Whereas if I stumble across JO I'm compelled to keep watching. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:45:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:45:13 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo HOO! British Men Behaving Badly is coming back... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1mdiq$hmh$1@news.spamcop.net... > **It sounds like the ones in the program guide, hopefully they'll show more > than just three, then again their idea of a "marathon" is to show three > shows for 12 hours.... Missed The Office again last night, took the dogs > out, just sat down to watch it and my dog started having a full blown panic > attack - she reacts very badly to changes in the weather, apparently, the > high winds set her off....we were up vewwwwy late.... :( > I checked out the listings and it seems they're showing about 7 episodes twice, 3 of which are the ones I just saw. So that means 4 that I haven't seen so it's not a total loss. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 04:57:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 20:57:38 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:b1mrk2$v9h$1@news.spamcop.net... > As far as how long it will be until we fly again......it has to be within a > year or so. Russia only has enough rockets to keep the ISS supplied for > another year (it will take 2 years to start up the production line again), > and if we have to abandon it the ISS it will fall apart. More than half of > the ISS crew's time is taken up doing maintenance. > > Space flight is, and always will be, inherently risky, regardless of how > safe we try to make it. All we can do is raise the odds a bit....... Do you fear for your own livelihood in the aftermath of this disaster? I heard on some news channel today that when Challenger blew up it cost thousands of space-related jobs. I hope you're right and that it doesn't take 3+ years to get things going again. Regarding Bush's 'increase' in NASA's budget - seems to me that it's pretty small and with the economy the way it is, it could in fact effectively be a budget cut. What is the expert opinion? If these tiles do prove to be the problem, I have to wonder why they persist in using them? Some alternative must be developed! And as for the ice which may have caused the damage in the first place - is that always present or only in colder winter launches? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 05:04:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:04:49 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1ngeq$e3k$1@news.spamcop.net... > Seems the FBI and local cops did a raid on someone who was collecting > shuttle debris. I'm trying to imagine what sort of crackpot would do that... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 05:03:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 21:03:07 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.04.01.40.08.286724@sneakemail.com... > Ah, I guess it does: > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/time_zone_world_98.jpg > Counting the Aleutians you mean? Alaska has it all! Except warmth of course. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 06:44:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:44:26 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3F614A.48A5EF4E@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Tonight or last night? Depends on when you read this - if you're reading it tonight, then it was last night. If you read this tomorrow, then it was night-before-last. :-) The show won its time period handily, but a lot of that can be chalked up to curiosity factor (the promos would make *me* want to watch at least the premiere, and it takes a fair amount to impress me). Now whether the audience comes back for more (and more importantly, if the buzz gets even more people to watch) is the real test - it'll be interesting to see if this one "has legs". I'm kinda-sorta trying to see if my taste (no comments, please...) is anywhere in tune with that great mythical Middle America. Sometimes I'm right (I've managed to call the last few Presidential elections right), but I've also been w-a-y wrong enough not to quit my day job and become a prognosticator. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 06:43:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:43:33 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" a écrit dans le message de news: b1nhic$eq3$1@news.spamcop.net > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.04.01.40.08.286724@sneakemail.com... > > Ah, I guess it does: > > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/world_maps/time_zone_world_98.jpg > > > > Counting the Aleutians you mean? Alaska has it all! Except warmth of > course. Hmm. Apparently it's a question of definitions. To me, a land at 179°59' E is "just west" of a land at the same latitude but at 179°59' W. When asking "which part of this country is easternmost/westernmost" I would not automatically "make the cut" on the 180° meridian relative to Greenwich (which, BTW, coincides only approximately with the International Date Line) but, if possible, outside the area being considered: - To me, "where is the Easternmost part of the Antartic?" doesn't make sense because it wraps around the pole; - To me, the "easternmost" point of the Pacific is between Cape Horn and Graham Land and its "westermost" point is somewhere between Japan and New Guinea -- they are not both "any point of the part of the 180° meridian that is in the Pacific"; - To me, the Chukchi peninsula (Chukotskiy poluostrov), just across the Bering strait from Alaska, is the easternmost, not westernmost, part of Russia. Doing is this way has the advantage of making the answers independent of the origin of measurement (as long as the geographic poles are agreed upon). Reading that it was "not Maine", I thought you regarded territorial waters as part of the states (which is "tricky" but, I think, legitimate -- unless some item of US legislation defines such waters as "Federal domain" not belonging to any state in particular). My atlas doesn't show territorial waters' boundaries except sometimes in straits between lands of different countries; but since just East of Maine there is Nova Scotia, which is, IIUC, Canadian, it could be conceivable that NH or Mass. waters extended farther east than those of Maine. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 06:45:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 22:45:11 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3F6177.BAA45DD4@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Car? What Car? I've been blinded by the moon.. (two moons actually.) :-) What he said... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 06:58:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:58:27 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.03.12.45.36.85126@sneakemail.com > On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 08:10:29 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > > > Well, thanks anyway. My notions of US geography are rather vague > > anyway. I do know that Manhattan is "the" central island of New York > > City but don't ask me to be more precise than that. > > I thought Manhattan was widely known to be the center of the universe. > But I'm just some guy from the Mid-west so I could be wrong. As far as any human knows, there is no centre to the universe; and the centre of the Earth, the centre of the Solar System, the centre of the Galaxy, ... are all (at present) unreachable to man. OK, that's the "serious" answer. There are others, for instance, the solipsist answer: The centre of the universe, at any moment, is where I am at that moment. Greenwich -- London -- Paris -- Geneva -- Rome -- Athens -- Jerusalem -- Mecca -- Benares -- Peking -- the geographic centre of China -- and other places, have all be proposed as "centre of the universe" by various peoples at various times, but none of them ever made unanimity of all mankind upon itself. Maybe Kenya has the "most ancient" title to being "centre of the known universe peopled by humans". Such "antiquity", however, does not necessarily entrain eternal validity. (yeah, I know you were joking. Sometimes, however, it pays to take a jest at words' value.) Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:08:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:08:30 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: GregR's NASDAQ References: <3E3DCF9C.625501EF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E3F66EE.F0883BE1@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > [good lines] Comedy futures were laughing all the way to the bank... :-) LOL - Now you've done it... Before, half of my writing staff was merely depressed after nobody got that "Bondage" joke. Now most of them have lost the will to joke entirely. I've locked up the scissors and other pointy objects. OTOH, interested in a writing job? :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:07:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:07:19 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3F66A7.63F4BCF7@suespammers.org.NULL> DeAnna wrote: > I'd have to see proof to believe that.... Seeing is believing - I'm still looking for that alleged "car". :-) > BTW- I think someone needs to take up a collection to buy that poor gal some clothes... it > looks like she outgrew those around the time she hit puberty.... The SC Travel Editor notes that we're blessed with a warm climate, and hence a long growing season out here. I was also going to work in a line about "fertilizer", but I think I'll just let that one go... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:11:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:11:28 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3F67A0.95A6B84D@suespammers.org.NULL> "John L." wrote: > Uh Greg, maybe you were a couple of weeks too late? :) The story of my life... :-) > Good thing - 40 years is a long time to be caught up in a vicious circa... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:10:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:10:36 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" a écrit dans le message de news: b1lero$s3l$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: [...] > > New Oxford Dictionary of English, © 1998-2001, p.247 under "bury": [...] > > p.1950 under "tomb": > > *tomb* |> *noun* a large vault, typically an underground one, for > > burying the dead. [...] * a monument to the memory of a dead person, > > erected over their burial place [...] > > > > So, AFAICT, people are buried, among other places, in tombs. > > Point well taken. People are buried in that subset of tombs that are > below ground, but are entombed, not buried in that subset of tombs > that are above ground. > > > ...so, "who is buried in Grant's tomb?" AFAICT, it is Grant. Probably > > Ulysses S. Grant. > > In my opinion, this highlights a flaw in the wording of that question. > While "Grant's Tomb" may be well know in the U.S., it is clearly not > well-known internationally, which tells me that I need to modify the > question so that it excludes Cary Grant, etc. This will also remove > any question as to whether his tomb is an underground or abovground > tomb. And what, pray, lies below U.S. Grant's [aboveground] tomb if not his and his wife's [belowground] tomb(s)? > > > And you knew all that off the top of your head? Or did you have to > > research it? > > I knew that Charles XIV of Sweden was from France and where the beer > came from, but had to look up the specifics. The other questions I did > not know the answers to, but found them within five minutes or so of > searching. Well, I didn't know many of the answers to your questions, and most of those I knew (such as the "Pennsylvania Dutch") had already been answered when I saw them. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:16:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:16:30 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: <3E3A0D0E.97EC2579@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3A5FEA.EA409B87@spamcop.net> <3E3D9AB7.59F278DA@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DF520.56704382@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E3F68CE.BB9A16BA@suespammers.org.NULL> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > Joke? Naked feet are not humorous. They are if you tickle 'em just right... > Check out the pictures: > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.shtml and > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/art2/dirtyfeet73.jpg > > Those feet are clearly filthy. Wow, are there possibly 72 other pictures > of dirty feet there? Indeed - these are truly the times that try peoples' soles... > I meant vapors (or should it be vapours) in the Victorian feeling weak at > the knees overwhelmed by forbidden pleasures sense. But I guess that's a > little old fashioned of me. Knees, feet - so you're a leg man, eh? :-) > Sorry, I spend way too much time writing XML in real life, shouldn't that > actually be something like to be well > formed? I'll leave the "well-formed" to the ladies in those pictures... > Is this whole thing where my refusal to ever use those smiley face things > gets me in trouble? Probably... :-Þ > Oh well. :-( -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:22:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:22:50 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: Message-ID: <3E3F6A4A.779C6DEF@suespammers.org.NULL> fernando@axnet.net wrote: > From my office, > I look at the same beach from the opposite side. What, your office is across the ocean?... :-) -- Greg (and I thought *I* had a long commute...) R - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:21:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:21:25 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Where was God During 911? References: Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns930A7A4C1DFB1charles@204.214.92.125 [...] > Forms: sceap, scaep, scep, sceaep, sceap, scep se(e)p, seop, scepe, > schep, shep, schepe, scheep, chepe, shepe, seppe, scheipe, sheip(pe, > shiepe) sheep, scheip, shepp, sheep, scip, schipe, schip, shype, shyp > (p)e, schyyp, shipe, shippe, ship > OE (WS) sceap, earlier scaep, (Anglian) scep str n = OFris. skep, > schep (NFris. skep, skeap,m sjip, sjapp, , WFis. skiep, EFris. > schaip), OS scap (MLG schap, LG schaap) MDu schaep (DU schaap), OHG > scaf (MHG schaf, G schaf):- OTeut. skaepo-m (wanting in gothic and > Scand) > Outside Teut. no certain affinities are known. The prehistoric pl. > *skaepu normally lost its final vowel in OE., so that norm. and acc. > sing. and pl. became identical. (ONorthumbrian, however, had a pl. > form scipo beside scip.) > (Sorry about the lack of accents. I don't think that I can find the > right ones without much effort!) > > One quote, just for fun: > c825 Vesp. Ps. cxiii. 6 Velut agniovium, swe swelomberu scepa. > > (Yeah, I followed that really well!) > > c: You're going to make me believe that sheep (the wool-giving animal) and ship (seagoing vessel) are etymologically related -- so that Panurge's ram (and all its sheep) suddenly thought they were ships! (Just kidding of course.) Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:34:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:34:03 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I'm back...(again) References: Message-ID: <3E3F6CEB.9C03283D@suespammers.org.NULL> Craig Sturdivant wrote: > Not sure why I have not been around, been doing the same old stuff: > working, working, brewing beer, watching the so called sports teams here in > Chicago, spending more and more time with a lovely young lady that I met in > a training class and I've been working. So life is good, eh?... :-) > I'll try to be a regular once again.... For good regularity, the SC Nutritionist suggests a diet high in fiber. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:35:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:35:00 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Where was God During 911? References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b0jvtb$aku$1@news.spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b0jsid$83f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Been to heaven? *And* come back? The way I see it, if she came back, > > then she turned around before getting there. > > I think it was a vision like John's Revelation. Well, well, well, ... Since visions of that kind are essentially private, they lose conviction power in each retelling. > > > (I deny to anyone, even me, the > > right to a monopoly on God.) But I'm not going to convert her out of her > > belief. Me, I have felt several times what I call "the Holy Spirit > > coming down on me". (Believe it or not.) But (except in rare special > > cases) I > don't > > preach except by example. > > I doubt if you "preach" ever. Look it up in those dictionaries and see. > IMHO, it is good to share mystical experiences with those who are seeking > (or maybe to explain your actions to someone who can't understand why you > are choosing a certain course), but preaching is a waste of time even by > example. And since none of us (tinu) can be absolutely sure that any > action is "in tune" with the "connection," it is good to debate reasons > with others. > > Miss Betsy Hm. Since it's not my way to, "just for the sake of argument" take a stand with which I don't agree, I cannot really disagree with you. Though I cannot really disagree either with, for instance, Laozi's saying that "the wise man, doing nothing, with no words, teaches" (it should be said in Chinese of course -- see http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/Laozi/EN/daode02.htm ) You're a hard debater, I can't disagree with you :-). Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:37:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:37:08 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: Message-ID: <3E3F6DA4.100F2EB2@suespammers.org.NULL> "John L." wrote: > 50* F (10* C) > Californians shiver uncontrollably. Texans die of exposure. > Canadians plant gardens. 60º F (Too lazy to do the conversion math...) Transplanted Floridians break out the polar exposure suits. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:42:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:42:46 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: <3E31BE3F.E080821D@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E3F6EF6.88CF4468@suespammers.org.NULL> Craig Sturdivant wrote: > Bah! That is shorts weather! Right now it is 14F with a windchill of 0 > here in Chicago. It has not been above 32F since I think Jan 9. And > looking at our weather forcast, next Tuesday is the next chance of getting > over the 32F hump. It has been cold as a well diggers shovel around here, > but thankfully not that much snow. Our friends just south and east of the > big pond have been getting hammered with lake effect snows all season. Hmm.... probably not a good place to mention that it was a balmy 91º out here last Friday... :-) -- Greg (is that a mass exodus to SoCal that I'm hearing?) R - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 07:52:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:52:21 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <3E3F7135.736AB378@suespammers.org.NULL> Baloo Ursidae wrote: > I don't believe that Columbia had the equipment to dock at the ISS. Not only that, but they were in two entirely different orbits, and the shuttle wasn't carrying the necessary fuel load to sync them up. > If the ISS has emergency airlocks, I assume the best case would be get > close to it, and have most of the crew make the leap of faith to the > ISS and go in through one of the emergency airlocks while one or two > stay behind on a mostly shut-down ship to keep it from drifting into > the atmosphere, into the space station, or otherwise out of reach. Hard to do, considering that only two of the crew (pilot and co-pilot) were trained for EVA's, and (IIRC) there were only two EVA suits aboard, neither of which (again IIRC) had the requisite jet-packs needed for your idea to work. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 08:18:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:18:49 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Afghanistan gets connected (Here comes the spam) References: <3E29D555.5C8E83AD@spamcop.net> <3E2A5B44.15585030@spamcop.net> <3E2C73B6.C2401854@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Cat" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E2C73B6.C2401854@spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote: > > > Maybe it's because French grammar is so much more varied than English > > grammar. French conjugation, for instance, must be a nightmare for > > English-speaking people. So we got drilled into it in grammar school, > > with dictations and conjugation exercises; then when in high school I > > started English the only hard part of it was pronunciation. > > > > Tony. > > I took a few years of French, three years in elementary school, two years > in high school, and four semesters in college. I took French I through > III during my first time at college before taking a few years off. After > that, I went to a local community college for a year then returned to the > university in August 2001. I took French IV that semester, five years > after taking French III. It took some time getting used to it again, but > I did well with most everything except for some of the more difficult > verb tenses. One that gave me a hard time was futur anterieur. I can't > remember if that was the one that my ex-boyfriend, who was getting his > masters in French at the time, said isn't really used in French now. Futur antérieur (j'aurai chanté, I shall have sung) is used quite often, even in spoken language, when the context warrants it. And IMHO it's not by far the hardest of all tenses and modes. (Quand tu auras fini tes devoirs, tu pourras aller au cinéma: after you finish your homework, you may go to the movies. Wfw: When you will have finished your [school] duties, you will [be allowed to] go to the cinema. "Tu auras fini" in this sentence is a futur antérieur in a quite plausible sentence of present-day spoken French.) The ones that are no more used in spoken language are, in order of increasing rarity even in written style, passé simple (je chantai), passé antérieur (j'eus chanté), subjonctif imparfait (que je chantasse), and subjonctif plus-que-parfait (que j'eusse chanté) also known as conditionnel passé 2e forme (j'eusse chanté). Those have no real equivalent in English; they map on various tenses of the English past, subjunctive or conditional depending on the sentence in which they're embedded -- and vice-versa. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 08:31:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:31:07 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.01.21.23.28.50.903552@sneakemail.com [...] > Sorry, that English degree probably > is sort of an albatross to me. [...] > Kerry. Le poète est semblable au prince des nuées: Ses ailes de géant l'empêchent de marcher. (Baudelaire I think) Last verses of "L'albatros". Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 08:44:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:44:08 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns930ADFF56BB8Fcharles@204.214.92.125 [...] > ;) Right, like in Europe when I was taking the driver's exam for the > first time I (sigh) didn't pass because I couldn't tell if the square > blue sign or the round blue sign was obligatory (the other one is a > suggestion). Note that after having lived there for many years, I > still don't know the difference... (But I did pass that test > eventually!) Round blue is "you must", square or oblong blue is "notice", red-bordered triangle is "danger", red-bordered circle is "don't!", there are a few other shapes, e.g. as the red octogonal "STOP" sign, imported from the USA. Before, it was a white citcle with red border, a red triangle, point down, inscribed in it, and the word "STOP" in black below the top side of the triangle. Same meaning: You don't have priority and you're not allowed to enter the crossing without stopping. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 08:55:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 00:55:27 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: <3E31BE3F.E080821D@spamcop.net> <3E3F6EF6.88CF4468@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit GregR wrote: >Hmm.... probably not a good place to mention that it was a balmy 91º out here >last Friday... :-) We suffer so... -Guy from Buena Park (that's Los Angeles to those from colder climes). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 09:04:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:04:52 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ok, brr! References: Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns930ADC9462BC6charles@204.214.92.125 > It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! [...] > > It did suck the first time I got trapped in vi and > > couldn't figure out how to get out. > > Yeah, I would have guessed :q! eventually. > > Uh. So :quit doesn't work anymore? Weird... > Yes it does. But you gotta add an exclamation mark if you wanna quit without saving your changes (and :q is just short for :quit). Or you can do :x (or :exit) or :wq if you want to save changes *and* quit. :qa[!] or :xa / :wqa if you have several windows open [not several instances; several file windows inside of the same instance of (g)vi(m)] and want to quit them all. > > > So, is the meta key sort of mystical then? There is no meta key, > > Grasshopper, the meta key is inside of you. It is where you find > > it. > > LOL. Close enough! I thought the meta key was another name for the Alt key ? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 09:20:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 01:20:24 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >And what, pray, lies below U.S. Grant's [aboveground] tomb http://www.nps.gov/gegr/ppphotos/acf225.jpg http://www.theinsider.com/nyc/Photos/grantsmall.JPG http://www.theinsider.com/nyc/attractions/2general.htm From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 10:46:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:46:22 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1n6rm$7qp$1@news.spamcop.net > Rating for this one > > Subject: SPEWS > > Message: SPEWS record number : S817 > > A brief, concise message, OT with subject line, signifying nothing. > > (Now if I could remember my Shakespeare, I could really make a good > rating!) -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Don't you have it handy on a bookshelf? Which play was it? (Mine must be no more than 20ft from where I sit, but where exactly?) Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 10:57:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:57:46 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" a écrit dans le message de news: b1o0l3$o22$1@news.spamcop.net > Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > > > And what, pray, lies below U.S. Grant's [aboveground] tomb > > http://www.nps.gov/gegr/ppphotos/acf225.jpg > http://www.theinsider.com/nyc/Photos/grantsmall.JPG > http://www.theinsider.com/nyc/attractions/2general.htm Wow. So, IIUC, what is commonly known as "Grant's tomb" is actually not Grant's tomb but a mausoleum known as "the Ulysses S. Grant National Memorial", and inside that are Ulysses Grant's tomb and Julia Grant's tomb, where they are buried. I rest my case. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 11:53:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 06:53:52 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Where was God During 911? References: Message-ID: > > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > > news:b0jsid$83f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Though I cannot > really disagree either with, for instance, Laozi's saying that "the wise > man, doing nothing, with no words, teaches" (it should be said in Chinese of > course -- see > http://users.skynet.be/antoine.mechelynck/Laozi/EN/daode02.htm ) You're a > hard debater, I can't disagree with you :-). It is true that children "model" what their parents do and that unconsciously we "model" our parents in adulthood. That's why abusive patterns are often perpetuated. Even though a person knows that hitting is awful, when s/he is confronted with a parent/child situation, s/he does what her/his parents did in the same situation - unless s/he makes a conscious effort to change. Also, one can change the tone of a conversation with a clerk or even someone closer to one by the way that one replies even if one doesn't change one's stance or opinion. But if "preaching by example" were effective, there are surely enough "good" people in the world to have made a difference so I am unconvinced that example is a good "preaching" tool. IMHO it comes down to motivation again. If one intends to "preach" (some dictionary definitions: advocate, urge strongly) by example, the example becomes worthless. "Good" has to be pure of "agenda" If one's actions and words are not preachy, then those who follow the example do so unconsciously and therefore have not succumbed to being "urged" (or put more positively, have not decided that particular action is better). One can advocate, but IMHO it has to be, like the artist and the prophet, because one's heart burns within - one is so passionate that it cannot be contained and has to be shared (like the astronauts who shared their passion for exploration and some of the relatives who advocated that space exploration continue). One can also urge (advise strongly) because one is convinced that this action is what leads to happiness (or solutions) as we urge people to report/block - not for our good, but for theirs. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 12:26:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Amateur Photography - PanoView From Home References: <3E3F6A4A.779C6DEF@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: GregR wrote: >fernando@axnet.net wrote: > >> From my office, >> I look at the same beach from the opposite side. > >What, your office is across the ocean?... :-) Could have been, this is a bay after all. To take this picture I was positioned at the south side of the beach looking north, pretty much 0/360. If you look at the upper portion of the picture there is a stretch of land into the bay; that's a local airport which looks more like an aircraft carrier. That's the downtown area and my office is close. Here again the picture can be seen at: http://www.schwartzconsultores.com.br/schwartz-panavue.jpg From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 12:39:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:39:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] More funnies Message-ID: [mice] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmcat/2003/tmcat030203.gif [work...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/co/2003/co030203.gif [Fund raising the way it should be, for Heidi, 1] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030204.gif [Raising your dog like you should, for Heidi, 2] http://dilbert.com/comics/gofigure/archive/images/gofigure2018290403020 4.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5bbb [For FP :)] http://dilbert.com/comics/graffiti/archive/images/graffiti2018290403020 4.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5bbc [LOLLOLLOL] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020403.gif [SUV's, for Heidi, 3!] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030204.gif [Snowshoes, aka for Heidi, 4] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030204.gif [Politics] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2003/bo030204.gif [Tech support gone to the dogs...] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005224.gif [Silly...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/wes/2003/wes030203.gif Maybe Tuesday is just a good day? Maybe it's me... Maybe I'm moody (bipolar) and today was just one of the 'up' days... But, Mother Goose and Grimm sure was funny.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 12:41:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Where was God During 911? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Antoine J. Mechelynck! > You're going to make me believe that sheep (the wool-giving > animal) and ship (seagoing vessel) are etymologically related -- > so that Panurge's ram (and all its sheep) suddenly thought they > were ships! (Just kidding of course.) I'm glad that you were just kidding - otherwise I'd have to look up/transcribe another entry ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 12:48:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 07:48:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 07:58:27 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >> I thought Manhattan was widely known to be the center of the universe. >> But I'm just some guy from the Mid-west so I could be wrong. > > OK, that's the "serious" answer. There are others, for instance, the > solipsist answer: The centre of the universe, at any moment, is where I > am at that moment. Well, that's true. That has usually been my answer to the question. And I'll be in Manhattan tonight, so for a few days, it really will be the center of the universe. I'm sure it will enjoy being the actual center for a bit. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 12:53:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 07:53:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: Ok, make me work (one of my professors said that the reason I wasn't interested in an advanced degree was because I was lazy). "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1o5lt$qlm$1@news.spamcop.net... > Don't you have it handy on a bookshelf? Which play was it? (Mine must be no > more than 20ft from where I sit, but where exactly?) No, I don't have it handy on my bookshelf. It is one of the famous quotes, but I don't remember which play: "it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing" (I found it on google, but it didn't say which play) My guess is Hamlet -- Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:06:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 08:06:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:31:07 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de > news: pan.2003.01.21.23.28.50.903552@sneakemail.com [...] >> Sorry, that English degree probably >> is sort of an albatross to me. > [...] >> Kerry. > > Le poète est semblable au prince des nuées: Ses ailes de géant > l'empêchent de marcher. > > (Baudelaire I think) Last verses of "L'albatros". > > Tony. I was actually remembering The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by Coleridge, but I could be remembering it in the wrong context. It has been a few decades since I read it last. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:14:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 08:14:47 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: <3E31BE3F.E080821D@spamcop.net> <3E3F6EF6.88CF4468@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:42:46 -0800, GregR wrote: >> Bah! That is shorts weather! Right now it is 14F with a windchill of >> 0 here in Chicago. It has not been above 32F since I think Jan 9. And >> looking at our weather forcast, next Tuesday is the next chance of >> getting over the 32F hump. It has been cold as a well diggers shovel >> around here, but thankfully not that much snow. Our friends just south >> and east of the big pond have been getting hammered with lake effect >> snows all season. > > Hmm.... probably not a good place to mention that it was a balmy 91º out > here last Friday... :-) > > -- > Greg (is that a mass exodus to SoCal that I'm hearing?) R - Another Beemer > Biker ...o&o> Exodize to So Cal? (Would that be the action verb for this situation?) I really don't think I could deal with the weather. I would miss the snow and the concept of seasons and change too much. It is freaking hot here lately. I haven't used the heater in my car for days. It should get up to the 40s again today. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:14:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:14:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Antoine J. Mechelynck! > Round blue is "you must", square or oblong blue is "notice" And this is really logical??? I just don't think so! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:23:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:23:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E39BB5E.73492D18@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1ng9p$e2o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Neil" wrote in message > news:b1lspa$4g1$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I have to say the same thing (boring) about Emeril. Zzzz....he needs to > > take some tips from Jamie Oliver. > > Ahuh... every time I flick channels and come across him it's snoozeville and > I switch. Whereas if I stumble across JO I'm compelled to keep watching. > > Compelled.....hmm...I guess I would say the same thing about Nigella. ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:25:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:25:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: <3E31BE3F.E080821D@spamcop.net> <3E3F6EF6.88CF4468@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > Exodize to So Cal? (Would that be the action verb for this > situation?) Uh. Nice try! => Nuthin' On to a bigger and better reference... And the OED doesn't have it either. Hmm. Oddly, there is no verb form... Oh well! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:30:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > Charles said something that sounded like: >| Eetz a joak! Ha ha! Harry Hook often does the Sunday ones! Ha >| ha! (Somebody Hook.) > > That name is extremely familiar. The only one that I remember by > name is Will Shortz, the editor, because his name is on every > puzzle. 'T'wer' 'enry 'ook 'n' not 'arry. Maybe that changes something for you? > My finish rate (if you count that I will stare at the same puzzle > for a week) is about 95%. Then again I have been known to carry > the thing around with me and ask people 'what is a 6 letter word > beginning with X' meaning "6th Century hermit" :) Plus it helps > to have freinds and aquaintences that have very esoteric trivia > imbedded in their brains. Hmm. Well, I could certainly try that method... Maybe we could do it here, like Guy's quiz :) Maybe Guy is really just trying to do a crossword puzzle! > Do you do cryptics??? They really make your brain work.... You gotta be kidding me! I just started on the NYT crosswords a month ago! Give me some time to get used to those first! :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:33:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > > Rating for this one > > Subject: SPEWS > > Message: SPEWS record number : S817 > > A brief, concise message, OT with subject line, signifying > nothing. And then: Negative points on clearness of the question. Nothing with regard to cartooniness. Neutral friendliness. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:38:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:38:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Funnies References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat! > "Charles" wrote >> With the globe we were comfortable enough with them that we >> could pick the puzzle writer just from the style of the puzzle. > I think you'd have a hard time fixing on any one puzzlemaker in > the NYT as they use lots of them. One editor but many creators. But I think the Globe does, too! Honest! It takes a while to get a feel for the styles... It began with one puzzle that we just didn't get at all... We looked at the author's name... Then there was another puzzle that we didn't get (in a different way) and we looked at the author's name... After some point, we started looking at the author's name before starting the puzzle... The 'some point' was not within the first six months of doing the puzzle... But, really, they all have very distinctive styles... Alan Olschwang puzzles are very different from Henry Hook puzzles (just for two names that I can pull right out of my patooty)... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:40:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 13:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ok, brr! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Antoine J. Mechelynck! > "Charles" wrote >> It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! >> > So, is the meta key sort of mystical then? There is no meta >> > key, Grasshopper, the meta key is inside of you. It is where >> > you find it. >> >> LOL. Close enough! > > I thought the meta key was another name for the Alt key ? It all depends on your keyboard mapping, eh? Any key can be the meta key - only some choices are less clever than others... The space, for example, would be a very unclever choice... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:57:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 08:57:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was anonymous poster at 130.189.104.28! > Guess what? YOU just lost a potential customer with your STUPID > delay on web reporting site!!! Rating: positive points for clearness; negative points for friendliness; positive (negative?) points for misconception of service and who s/he is talking to Guess what? No _I_ didn't! Guess what else? This isn't about making money, it's about stopping spam. Guess what else? Es gibt ein probleme! Yeah, verily, there is a little problem that is making the delay a bit longer than usual. It will probably be fixed some day. It might not. And if it isn't, so what? Why should _I_ have to pay money so that _you_ can report? That doesn't make much sense, does it? [But I'd pay a little so that Cat and Mr[s] Mouse could report 'cause they both have intelligent and/or nice things to say! So plbbt!] Reply rating: Positive points for C&C; but negative points for friendliness (plbbt! is *not* friendly); positive points for loyalty to friends -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 13:56:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 05:56:43 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >Wow. So, IIUC, what is commonly known as "Grant's tomb" is actually not >Grant's tomb but a mausoleum known as "the Ulysses S. Grant National >Memorial", and inside that are Ulysses Grant's tomb and Julia Grant's tomb, >where they are buried. I disagree. You can only be buried under ground or under water. If those tombs were underground, you would be correct. They are, however, above ground, and bodies placed in above-ground tombs are entombed, not buried. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 14:03:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:03:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1ogr7$1c1$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > > >Wow. So, IIUC, what is commonly known as "Grant's tomb" is actually not > >Grant's tomb but a mausoleum known as "the Ulysses S. Grant National > >Memorial", and inside that are Ulysses Grant's tomb and Julia Grant's tomb, > >where they are buried. > > I disagree. You can only be buried under ground or under water. > If those tombs were underground, you would be correct. They are, > however, above ground, and bodies placed in above-ground tombs > are entombed, not buried. > Actually, buried only refers to whole bodies. If one is cremated, the term cemeteries use to put the ashes in the ground (or in tombs) is "inurned" and burying bodies is "interred" which refers to both in the ground and in tombs. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 14:30:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > It wasn't me! It was anonymous poster at 130.189.104.28! > >> Guess what? YOU just lost a potential customer with your STUPID >> delay on web reporting site!!! > > Rating: positive points for clearness; negative points for > friendliness; positive (negative?) points for misconception of > service and who s/he is talking to Hmm... I'm not entirely sure about the clearness bit, there. You really need the context to understand the second sentence and it is missing at least one word. I think that to be entirely clear, a question really needs to be complete, to contain all of the contextual elements. If I didn't know that right now there are some problems longer waits, I mightn't have understood the sentence at all... Ah, but that is my own rating, of course! > Reply rating: Positive points for C&C; but negative points for > friendliness (plbbt! is *not* friendly); positive points for > loyalty to friends Ah well... It probably wasn't really helpful, either... Physician, heal thyself! 30 lashes with a wet noodle, or whatever... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 14:53:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:53:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1nh83$eig$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Do you fear for your own livelihood in the aftermath of this disaster? I > heard on some news channel today that when Challenger blew up it cost > thousands of space-related jobs. Not in the near term, we will still complete all HST hardware we a currently building, that'll take about 1 1/2 years. Ironically, last Thursday we had FINALLY been manifested for the next servicing mission, Nov 19th, 2004, on Columbia........ I hope you're right and that it doesn't > take 3+ years to get things going again. Regarding Bush's 'increase' in > NASA's budget - seems to me that it's pretty small and with the economy the > way it is, it could in fact effectively be a budget cut. What is the expert > opinion? NASA budget has been effectively cut by the cost of inflation for many years now (same number of $$$ each year). I don't know what they'll do with the money allocated for this fiscal year for shuttle launches (billions) -- hopefully re-distribute what's leftover from the investigation/possible fixes to programs that are over budget (ISS) or underfunded (HST). > > If these tiles do prove to be the problem, I have to wonder why they persist > in using them? Some alternative must be developed! > If there was a better replacement, trust me, we'd already be using it. They never stop looking for ways to improve safety and performance of the vehicles. > And as for the ice which may have caused the damage in the first place - is > that always present or only in colder winter launches? > I don't think we know if there *was* any ice -- they look for ice-buildup right up to launch. Now if there was ice _in_ the foam........I don't know if that's even possible, but that would certainly be a bad thing...... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 15:38:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: In news:pan.2003.02.04.13.06.30.407494@sneakemail.com, Mr K. Mean said something that sounded like: | On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 09:31:07 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: | || "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de || news: pan.2003.01.21.23.28.50.903552@sneakemail.com [...] ||| Sorry, that English degree probably ||| is sort of an albatross to me. || || Le poète est semblable au prince des nuées: Ses ailes de géant || l'empêchent de marcher. || || (Baudelaire I think) Last verses of "L'albatros". | I was actually remembering The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by | Coleridge, but I could be remembering it in the wrong context. It | has been a few decades since I read it last. The Rime of the Ancient Mariner Part the Second Ah! well a-day! what evil looks Had I from old and young! Instead of the cross, the Albatross About my neck was hung. So...you are in the right context here Kerry if you are saying that your English degree is a burden to you. Your own "cross to bear"? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 15:48:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:48:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Rating : Re: [SC-Help] Somebody need help? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kenge! [big snip o' question (??)] Conciseness : very bad Clearness : very bad Cartooniness : none Friendliness : not really applicable/hard to say -> it would depend upon which part was the question and that is not really clear... (oops! sent the first one out over the .help mailing list... sigh...) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 15:56:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:56:44 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" skrev i meddelandet news:b1od22$uvr$1@news.spamcop.net... > Ok, make me work (one of my professors said that the reason I wasn't > interested in an advanced degree was because I was lazy). > > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b1o5lt$qlm$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Don't you have it handy on a bookshelf? Which play was it? (Mine must be > no > > more than 20ft from where I sit, but where exactly?) > > No, I don't have it handy on my bookshelf. It is one of the famous quotes, > but I don't remember which play: "it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of > sound and fury, Signifying nothing" (I found it on google, but it didn't > say which play) > > My guess is Hamlet > -- > Miss Betsy > To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow, Creeps in this petty pace from day to day To the last syllable of recorded time, And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more: it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. from MacBeth, Act V, Scene V (Macbeth chooses to describe life as "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" which is no surprise. He is a corrupt man and when he makes his speech on life, his wife has just been murdered, and he fears he'll be murdered himself.) Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:01:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:01:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart References: <3E31BE3F.E080821D@spamcop.net> <3E3F6EF6.88CF4468@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: In news:pan.2003.02.04.13.14.46.874543@sneakemail.com, Mr K. Mean said something that sounded like: | On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 23:42:46 -0800, GregR wrote: || Hmm.... probably not a good place to mention that it was a balmy 91º || out here last Friday... :-) || -- || Greg (is that a mass exodus to SoCal that I'm hearing?) R - Another || Beemer Biker ...o&o> | | Exodize to So Cal? (Would that be the action verb for this | situation?) I think the action verb you are looking for is "stampede" :) |I really don't think I could deal with the weather. I | would miss the snow and the concept of seasons and change too much. What he said. | It is freaking hot here lately. I haven't used the heater in my car | for days. It should get up to the 40s again today. At the moment it is 44 here - going up to a downright balmy 51 today - woo! I am trying to ignore the rest of the forecast for the week :( http://tinyurl.com/41hn -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:18:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:18:52 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: In news:pan.2003.02.04.12.48.22.303835@sneakemail.com, Mr K. Mean said something that sounded like: | On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 07:58:27 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: | ||| I thought Manhattan was widely known to be the center of the ||| universe. But I'm just some guy from the Mid-west so I could be ||| wrong. || || OK, that's the "serious" answer. There are others, for instance, the || solipsist answer: The centre of the universe, at any moment, is || where I am at that moment. | | Well, that's true. That has usually been my answer to the question. | And I'll be in Manhattan tonight, so for a few days, it really will | be the center of the universe. I'm sure it will enjoy being the | actual center for a bit. Ah, but it is _already_ the center of the universe. I am sitting here, aren't I? But this evening New Jersey will be the center of the universe. What did Heinlein call this stuff???? Right..... "multiperson pantheistic solipsism" - we are all correct in thinking that we are the center of the universe because we are all figments of someone else's imagination ......no paradox at all :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:27:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:27:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: "Nilla" wrote in message news:b1onrm$7sf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > (Macbeth chooses to describe life as "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound > and fury, signifying nothing" which is no surprise. He is a corrupt man and > when he makes his speech on life, his wife has just been murdered, and he > fears he'll be murdered himself.) > Thank you. I only said Hamlet because he is gloomy. I had a feeling it was somebody else - particularly someone who was in a violent situation. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:32:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 11:32:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931860ADC8E36charles@216.154.195.60... > Ah well... It probably wasn't really helpful, either... Physician, > heal thyself! 30 lashes with a wet noodle, or whatever... If they had a sense of humor, it could have been helpful. But IME people who would post like that are humorless. We(tinw) all have lapses, though, so it's worth a try. A long shot, though especially since humorless people don't like to be wrong IME. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:41:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 08:41:01 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Miss Betsy wrote: >Actually, buried only refers to whole bodies. If one is cremated, the term >cemeteries use to put the ashes in the ground (or in tombs) is "inurned" >and burying bodies is "interred" which refers to both in the ground and in >tombs. Good point. I always like to use the proper word, and it annoys me when, for example, peole use the terms pier, wharf, and dock interchangably. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 16:45:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:45:07 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] YOur blocking my email References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" skrev i meddelandet news:b1opne$93e$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Nilla" wrote in message > news:b1onrm$7sf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > (Macbeth chooses to describe life as "a tale told by an idiot, full of > sound > > and fury, signifying nothing" which is no surprise. He is a corrupt man > and > > when he makes his speech on life, his wife has just been murdered, and he > > fears he'll be murdered himself.) > > > > Thank you. I only said Hamlet because he is gloomy. I had a feeling it was > somebody else - particularly someone who was in a violent situation. > > Miss Betsy > > I also guessed Hamlet first... :-) ..but checked it up. Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 17:24:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:24:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1oqf9$9ui$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I always like to use the proper word, and it annoys me when, for > example, peole use the terms pier, wharf, and dock interchangably. > Yes, it is amazing how many terms we misuse! And it is fascinating how many objects have specific names that those who work with them use - for instance, the names of all the parts of a window. Ok, off the top of my head, dock is where boats tie up; it extends out over the water, and one can step directly into the boat from the dock. One can walk out on piers and fish, and ships dock at piers - one can't step from the ship or boat to the pier, but need ladders or gangplanks. wharf is a place where ships dock that is on land - I mean the wharf is on land instead of out into the water the way docks and piers extend out into the water - and that's a pure guess. I can't remember any wharf I have been on though I must have at some time. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 19:28:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > A long shot, though > especially since humorless people don't like to be wrong IME. Hmm. Like most people? Or, especially humorless people especially don't like being wrong? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 19:31:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > It reminded me of my list of things I would > like to do if I ever become all powerful. Oh! Great and all-powerful one! Please strike down those who use 'cartooney' when they really mean 'cartoony'! Of course, because of their mass use of the former rather than the latter it will become a word, but for now it sho' ain't in the dictionary... The OED does list 'cartoonery' but that's more like what goes on in a spamhaus... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 19:37:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:37:32 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: Miss Betsy wrote: >Ok, off the top of my head, dock is where boats tie up; it extends out over >the water, and one can step directly into the boat from the dock. One can >walk out on piers and fish, and ships dock at piers - one can't step from >the ship or boat to the pier, but need ladders or gangplanks. wharf is a >place where ships dock that is on land - I mean the wharf is on land instead >of out into the water the way docks and piers extend out into the water - >and that's a pure guess. I can't remember any wharf I have been on though >I must have at some time. http://www.bartleby.com/68/67/1967.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 19:43:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:43:47 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > >It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > >> It reminded me of my list of things I would >> like to do if I ever become all powerful. > >Oh! Great and all-powerful one! Please strike down those who use >'cartooney' when they really mean 'cartoony'! And while you are at it, oh all-powerful one. please smite those who have absolute moral certainty that any contraception is a sin, but who think that raping little boys is a gray area. Also, could we please have a government like the one described in the US Constitution? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 20:40:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:40:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93189342987ABcharles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > > > A long shot, though > > especially since humorless people don't like to be wrong IME. > > Hmm. Like most people? Or, especially humorless people especially > don't like being wrong? When do we laugh? When things aren't the way they are supposed to be, right? A humorless person can't laugh at himself when he is not the way he is supposed to be so they don't like it. People with humor don't mind because they get a good laugh. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 20:53:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 15:53:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1du7a$cjh$1@news.spamcop.net... > Finally got around to adding more. - The practice of actually spelling out FYI in speech. As in "Just an F-Y-I for you". - Anyone that picks up voice mail on speaker phone, in an open office. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 20:56:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > When do we laugh? When things aren't the way they are supposed to > be, right? A humorless person can't laugh at himself when he is > not the way he is supposed to be so they don't like it. People > with humor don't mind because they get a good laugh. Weird... I was replying and then my reply was just gone! It, uh, made me laugh :) Anyway, that's a nice idea you're developing there... Can I quote you on it? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 21:05:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:05:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1p4q7$hcf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Miss Betsy wrote: > > >Ok, off the top of my head, dock is where boats tie up; it extends out over > >the water, and one can step directly into the boat from the dock. One can > >walk out on piers and fish, and ships dock at piers - one can't step from > >the ship or boat to the pier, but need ladders or gangplanks. wharf is a > >place where ships dock that is on land - I mean the wharf is on land instead > >of out into the water the way docks and piers extend out into the water - > >and that's a pure guess. I can't remember any wharf I have been on though > >I must have at some time. > > http://www.bartleby.com/68/67/1967.html Dock is actually the water where the boat or ship comes to tie up at the pier or wharf or in the case of dry dock, the place where the ship goes for repair. In American usage it is also either the wharf or pier itself or sometimes, as in loading dock, any place where cargo is off loaded. And I have been to Fisherman's Wharf in more than one place - only place to buy fish that tastes right. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 21:51:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:51:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: In news:b1p986$kg0$1@news.spamcop.net, Neil said something that sounded like: | "Neil" wrote in message | news:b1du7a$cjh$1@news.spamcop.net... || | | | Finally got around to adding more. | | - The practice of actually spelling out FYI in speech. As in "Just | an F-Y-I for you". | | - Anyone that picks up voice mail on speaker phone, in an open office. I have a new one myself. Anyone stupid enough to give their credit card number/exipration date of card/proper spelling of name/address on a cell phone - loudly - in a restaurant. This actually happened today at lunch - I wanted to shake this stupid woman. Nevermind that I hate cell phone talkers at restaurants. Period. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 21:52:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:52:46 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Spell Checker Message-ID: Spell Checker I have a spelling chequer It came with my pee sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye cannot sea. When eye strike a quay, right a word I weight four it to say Weather eye am wrong oar wright It shows me strait aweigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two late And eye can put the error rite Its rarely, rarely grate. I've run this poem threw it I'm shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect in it's weigh My chequer tolled me sew. "Sauce unknown" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 21:50:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:50:19 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Top Ten Things That Sound Dirty In Law But Aren't Message-ID: Top Ten Things That Sound Dirty In Law But Aren't: 1. Have you looked through her briefs? 2. He is one hard judge! 3. Counselor, let's do it in chambers. 4. His attorney withdrew at the lastminute. 5. Is it a penal offense? 6. Better leave the handcuffs on. 7. For $200 an hour, she better be good! 8. Can you get him to drop his suit? 9. The judge gave her the stiffest one he could. 10. Think you can get me off? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 22:05:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:05:47 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns9318A24185A0Acharles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > > > When do we laugh? When things aren't the way they are supposed to > > be, right? A humorless person can't laugh at himself when he is > > not the way he is supposed to be so they don't like it. People > > with humor don't mind because they get a good laugh. > > Weird... I was replying and then my reply was just gone! It, uh, made > me laugh :) > > Anyway, that's a nice idea you're developing there... Can I quote you > on it? Sure, IANAL, and neither do I get any money for what I write. If you are seriously asking. Otherwise, at $.02 USD per word. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 22:11:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > "Charles" wrote >> Anyway, that's a nice idea you're developing there... Can I >> quote you on it? > > Sure, IANAL, and neither do I get any money for what I write. If > you are seriously asking. Otherwise, at $.02 USD per word. If I'm serious then ok. If I'm not serious then it'll cost me $.02 a word. Hmm. Well, I was serious about quoting you, but I'm not serious. Where does that put me? Is it gonna cost me or not ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 4 23:36:35 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (MALCOM TUTU) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 23:36:35 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] BUSINESS PROPOSAL. From: MR. MALCOM TUTU (chief auditor) 155 president street, Johannesburg, South Africa. Tel: +874-762919-885. Fax:+874-762919-886. Dear Sir, Though I know that a transaction of this magnitude will make any one apprehensive and worried, but I am assuring you that everything will be well at theend of the day. We have decided to contact you due to the urgency of this transaction. I got your email address while searching for trustworthy individual. Let me start by introducing myself properly to you. I am Mr. Malcom Tutu. an auditor with Ned Credict Bank, Johannesburg, South Africa . MY PROPOSITION: A French foreigner Late Engr.Peter Claude (Snr) a merchant with The Federal Government of South Africa, Formerly working in Witwatersrand Johannesburg Gold Mine, Johannesburg South Africa. Until his death few year ago in Kenya Air Bus (A310 - 304)Flight KQ431, He banked with us at Ned Credict Bank Johannesburg and had a closing balance as at the end of September, 2000 worth $30,800.000.00 (Thirty Million eight hundred thousand United State Dollars), (this is aside the accrued interest so far from that date) the bank now expects his next of kin as beneficiary. Valuable efforts are being made by the Bank to get in touch with any of the Claude's Family or Relatives but to no success. Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is because of the perceived possibility of not being able to locate any of Late Engr. Peter Claude(Snr.)'s next of kin . The Management under the influence of our Chairman and Members of the Board of Directors, Thus that arrangement has been made for the fund to be decleared "Unclaimed" and subsequentlly be donated to the trust fund for arms and ammunition to further enhance the course of War in Africa and the World in General. In order to avert this negative development, some of my trusted colleagues and I, now seek your permission to have you stand as next of kin to the late Engr.peter Claude (Snr.) so that the fund will be released and paid into your Account as the beneficiary/next of kin. The request of A foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer(Claude) was a foreigner and a Local person here in the country cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner). All documents and proves to enable you get this fund will be carefully worked out. We have secured from the probate registry, an order of Mandamus to locate any of the deceased's beneficiary(ies), and more so we are assuring you that this business is 100% Risk Free. Your share will be 30% of the total sum while 10% will be set aside for any expences incured during the course of the transaction, The rest of 60% will be for myself and my colleagues for investment purposes, According to agreement between both parties. Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relations or next of kin to the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location where-in the money will be remitted. I will also instruct you on how you can add in your application to our bank, so that you get paid through our corresponding bank overseas as this will be easier for us. Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. Please note that for the purposes of confidentiality, you may further correspond through my alternative email address: macontu1@webmail.co.za or have me called through my telephone +874-762919-885. Accept my warm regards as I await your response. Sincerely Malcom Tutu. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 00:12:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 16:12:25 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.03.22.55.43.55014@sneakemail.comGrande River > > [07] Which U.S State is the northernmost? Southernmost? > > Easternmost? Westernmost? > > http://www.ce.utexas.edu/prof/maidment/CE397/project/us1.gif > North- Besides Alaska, Minnesota > East - Maine Alaska is the easternmost. Part of the Aleutian Islands crosses the international date line. > West - Besides Alaska, Washington From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 00:02:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:02:36 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: | > Seems the FBI and local cops did a raid on someone who was collecting | > shuttle debris. | | I'm trying to imagine what sort of crackpot would do that... There have been cases where people have stolen toys from charities just before the holidays. In one case someone robbed a food bank and because they could not carry off all the frozen meat they unplugged the freezers. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 01:53:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Richard Winder) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 17:53:06 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> <3E3F7135.736AB378@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: > > I don't believe that Columbia had the equipment to dock at the ISS. > > Not only that, but they were in two entirely different orbits, and the > shuttle wasn't carrying the necessary fuel load to sync them up. But don't forget, you have to count ISS fuel, too. It wouldn't necessarily have to remain where it is. In a dire emergency, they could try to give the station a bit of a nudge to help sync orbits. Actually, they were in the midst of trading out Progress freighters, so they might have over one full load to work with. I have no idea if it would have worked in this case- merely speculating about possible options... > > If the ISS has emergency airlocks, I assume the best case would be get > > close to it, and have most of the crew make the leap of faith to the > > ISS and go in through one of the emergency airlocks while one or two > > stay behind on a mostly shut-down ship to keep it from drifting into > > the atmosphere, into the space station, or otherwise out of reach. > > Hard to do, considering that only two of the crew (pilot and co-pilot) > were trained for EVA's, and (IIRC) there were only two EVA suits aboard, > neither of which (again IIRC) had the requisite jet-packs needed for your > idea to work. I read somewhere that the Canadarm 2 on the ISS is supposed to be sturdy enough to even move a shuttle around, if necessary. No latch point, maybe?, but a distant hope might be to have a crewman from Alpha ride the end of the arm, lash it to the shuttle to keep the spacecraft from bouncing into the station, then ferry the shuttle crew along the arm using safety tethers- no need for a 'leap of faith'. You still would have a pile of problems at that point, like how long do leave the shuttle on the end of that arm, what are you going to do with it even if you can park it there for a while (can it be programmed to leave on its own and park somewhere?), how long can 10 people survive on the station, how are you going to get them all down, etc. A hurry-up shuttle launch would still probably have to be attempted. If the station had its proposed lifeboat, they might have been able to use its proposed 'runabout' function to go fetch people. I suppose this is all far-fetched second guessing at this point, but you know, I think they really have to start thinking about these things. With China now trying to go with manned flight, the time will probably come again where intervention in orbit is needed. Among other things, the ISS is a potential orbital rescue platform. -RSW From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 03:04:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 21:04:12 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Privacy et al Message-ID: http://www2.cio.com/research/security/edit/a12232002.html Conserve Privacy A precious resource needs careful stewardship By Scott Berinato The state of privacy is generally debated in black-and-white: Either it is alive or it is dead. Of course, it's actually in between, gray. What would work better for talking about the state of privacy is the vocabulary of conservation. Think of privacy as a limited natural resource. In some places, it's thriving. In others, we've clear-cut. Gone unmanaged, it will run out. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 03:47:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 22:47:05 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1q003$5n4$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www2.cio.com/research/security/edit/a12232002.html > > Conserve Privacy Scott has some good points. Every time I see those cameras at intersections that control the lights, I think of 1984. Yet, in some ways, our privacy is not being eroded, just the way in which people know things is different. In a small town people know you and your business and it is not always a bad thing - like cameras in mall parking lots for security are little different from front porch sitters who see who is going where and with whom. Yet the potential is there and how to update one's rights to keep tyrants in check without losing the "good" is challenging. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 05:21:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 23:21:14 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> kram wrote: > I have a new one myself. Anyone stupid enough to give their credit card > number/exipration date of card/proper spelling of name/address on a cell > phone - loudly - in a restaurant. This actually happened today at lunch - I > wanted to shake this stupid woman. Nevermind that I hate cell phone talkers > at restaurants. Period. At my last job before I quit to go back to school full time, one of the financial reps used to use speaker phone all the time with clients and investment companies....with volume turned up on high and talking loud enough that everyone in the building heard every word of both sides of the conversation. That was only one of a long list of things that I hated about him. Every day, I knew almost every time he was on the phone despite the fact that I was usually on the other side of the building. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 09:32:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:32:17 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: It appears that the fine folks here at spamcop.social were not only able to breeze through The Ultimate Easy Quiz, but to highlight several deficiencies in the questions! Note to spammers: Be afraid. Be very afraid. :) Here are a couple of other questions, but be warned - the answers may be jokes, puns or silly wordplay rather than being strictly correct! These should be solvable without doing any researching of facts. [1] Arnold Schwartzenegger has a big one. Michael J. Fox has a small one. Madonna doesn't have one. Cher had one, but had it removed. The Pope has one but doesn't use it. Bob Dole uses his all the time. We never saw Lucy use Desi's. What is it? Extra credit: the reference to Bob Dole is dated and not international enough. I am open to suggestions for an internationally-know name to replace it with. [2] What do jack the Ripper and Kermit the Frog have in common? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 09:38:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:38:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Cat wrote: > >kram wrote: > >> I have a new one myself. Anyone stupid enough to give their credit card >> number/exipration date of card/proper spelling of name/address on a cell >> phone - loudly - in a restaurant. This actually happened today at lunch - I >> wanted to shake this stupid woman. Nevermind that I hate cell phone talkers >> at restaurants. Period. > >At my last job before I quit to go back to school full time, one of the >financial reps used to use speaker phone all the time with clients and >investment companies....with volume turned up on high and talking loud enough >that everyone in the building heard every word of both sides of the >conversation. That was only one of a long list of things that I hated about >him. Every day, I knew almost every time he was on the phone despite the fact >that I was usually on the other side of the building. When I got my cell phone, I did some experiments, and found that I could easily be heard while talking in a quiet voice, even in a fairly noisy environment. So WHY DO THESE $%&*! MORONS THINK THEY HAVE TO SHOUT INTO THEIR CELL PHONES??? I am just glad that cellphones don't come with a loud speakerphone option. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 12:41:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:41:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More rating : Re: [SC-Help] What's the delay with free reporting References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns9318AEEDE3B75charles@216.154.195.60... > > If I'm serious then ok. If I'm not serious then it'll cost me $.02 a > word. Hmm. Well, I was serious about quoting you, but I'm not > serious. Where does that put me? Is it gonna cost me or not ;) You get the last word! Can't compete with a master -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 13:15:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:15:36 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1qm3o$ho3$2@news.spamcop.net... > > I am just glad that cellphones don't come with a loud speakerphone option. > > Don't some cell phone come with a two-way radio option? I thought I saw someone using a phone in this way. Perhaps it was just a regular radio that looked like a cell phone. Oh, and while we're on the subject, I'd completely do away with the Sprint PCS commercials. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 13:18:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 08:18:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: American Idol References: Message-ID: So we watched last night, and cast our votes. Couldn't decide between girl 1 and girl 8 (forget the names), so we called and voted for both. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 13:24:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Today's cartoonies :) Message-ID: .social style.... [true love] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020503.gif [politics] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/mb/2003/mb030205.gif [helping hand] http://dilbert.com/creators/naturalselection/archive/images/naturalsele ction20024387030129.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5dif [weird cat joke] http://dilbert.com/comics/roseisrose/archive/images/roseisrose200121936 30205.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5dil [the idiot light on the dashboard...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/dp/2003/dp030205.gif [whoa! The help desk has gone seriously wonky!] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005225.gif From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 14:10:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:10:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Worthy screen saver Message-ID: Donate your computer time to help us fold proteins. Our science seeks to understand how proteins fold and assemble into living cells. Understanding protein folding will help make better treatments for diseases. http://www.distributedfolding.com http://www.distributedfolding.com/about.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 14:48:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:48:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: In news:b1r2qd$on4$1@news.spamcop.net, Neil said something that sounded like: | "Guy Macon" wrote in | message news:b1qm3o$ho3$2@news.spamcop.net... || | || I am just glad that cellphones don't come with a loud speakerphone || option. || || | | Don't some cell phone come with a two-way radio option? I thought I | saw someone using a phone in this way. Perhaps it was just a regular | radio that looked like a cell phone. Yep ... my bosses have those to speak to each other. And some woman I see almost every morning. How annoying! I don't want to hear your conversation...OK????? | Oh, and while we're on the subject, I'd completely do away with the | Sprint PCS commercials. YES I CAN HEAR YOU! NOW SHUT UP! -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 05:26:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 23:26:58 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: | | Scott has some good points. Every time I see those cameras at intersections | that control the lights, I think of 1984. Yet, in some ways, our privacy is | not being eroded, just the way in which people know things is different. In | a small town people know you and your business and it is not always a bad | thing - like cameras in mall parking lots for security are little different | from front porch sitters who see who is going where and with whom. Yet the | potential is there and how to update one's rights to keep tyrants in check | without losing the "good" is challenging. | | Miss Betsy I'm currently living in a bid city (Dallas TX) and a very small town in the western NC. What my neighbors see and think is what I allow them to see not what I don;t want them to know/see. FWIW many think I;m a multi-millionaire. Interesting point is I've done nothing covert to give them that impression. My concern is what the current administration and the law they proglomate can and have done to my privacy. In California employees of Allstate abuse the system via a law that stream lined the insurance industry's access to driver license data. Under current law the drug companies have access to my and my family's medical records. Because my wife's initials are similar to my daughter's she has received detailed data on my daughter's medical condition. This is not a problem as they have a very open relationship but the potential for abuse is strong. What is more disturbing is that there is nothing that can be done to address the inappropriate release of the data. Up until J. Edgar Hoover died there was none in Washington who would challange him as he had illigally collected the dirt on almost everyone. the only difference between then and now is now it is legal to collect the data. Do you really believe it won;t be abused? I have taken the precaution to lable all of my familes medical records as 'work product for hire and specifiy that the data is protected by copy right and is the sole propety of the indivdual patent. So far I;'ve had moderate sucess in slowing the abuse. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 14:55:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:55:58 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: In news:b1qlq9$ho3$1@news.spamcop.net, Guy Macon said something that sounded like: | It appears that the fine folks here at spamcop.social were not only | able to breeze through The Ultimate Easy Quiz, but to highlight | several deficiencies in the questions! | | Note to spammers: Be afraid. Be very afraid. :) | | | | | | Here are a couple of other questions, but be warned - the | answers may be jokes, puns or silly wordplay rather than | being strictly correct! These should be solvable without | doing any researching of facts. | | | [1] | | Arnold Schwartzenegger has a big one. | | Michael J. Fox has a small one. | | Madonna doesn't have one. | | Cher had one, but had it removed. | | The Pope has one but doesn't use it. | | Bob Dole uses his all the time. | | We never saw Lucy use Desi's. | | What is it? | A last name | | Extra credit: the reference to Bob Dole is dated and | not international enough. I am open to suggestions for | an internationally-know name to replace it with. | | [2] | | What do jack the Ripper and Kermit the Frog have in common? the -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 14:55:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 06:55:57 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1qm3o$ho3$2@news.spamcop.net... > When I got my cell phone, I did some experiments, and found that I > could easily be heard while talking in a quiet voice, even in a > fairly noisy environment. So WHY DO THESE $%&*! MORONS THINK THEY > HAVE TO SHOUT INTO THEIR CELL PHONES??? > > I am just glad that cellphones don't come with a loud speakerphone option. Ah, but several mobile phones *do* come with a speakerphone option! What I find obnoxious is the people with the Nextel phones with the "push to talk" feature like a walky talky. There's no way you can' hear both sides of the conversation .... and loudly! As to why some people shout into their mobile phones I lay part of that blame on the design of mobiles. In a regular telephone when you speak into it you hear your own voice. This is called "side tone." You normally don't hear that on a mobile phone. It's more normal to keep your speech in a normal tone when you hear the feedback of your own voice. Perhaps also the people using the mobile don't know what they sound like at the other end and assume that they have to raise the level of their voice to be heard. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 14:59:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 06:59:48 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1r2qd$on4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Guy Macon" wrote in message > news:b1qm3o$ho3$2@news.spamcop.net... > Oh, and while we're on the subject, I'd completely do away with the Sprint > PCS commercials. I find the nerdy "can you hear me now" Verizon nerd even more annoying than the Sprint trenchcoat guy by far. I sort of find some of the Sprint adverts amusing even though they are stupid. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 15:02:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:02:10 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1r81p$s6l$1@news.spamcop.net... > In news:b1r2qd$on4$1@news.spamcop.net, > | Oh, and while we're on the subject, I'd completely do away with the > | Sprint PCS commercials. > > YES I CAN HEAR YOU! NOW SHUT UP! Sorry, that's not the Sprint PCS commercial. That's the advert for Verizon Wireless. Much more annoying than the Sprint PCS trenchcoat guy. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 15:39:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 07:39:24 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: kram wrote: >A last name Correct. >the Correct. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 16:10:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:10:28 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: | When I got my cell phone, I did some experiments, and found that I | could easily be heard while talking in a quiet voice, even in a | fairly noisy environment. So WHY DO THESE $%&*! MORONS THINK THEY | HAVE TO SHOUT INTO THEIR CELL PHONES??? | | I am just glad that cellphones don't come with a loud speakerphone option. The problem has to do with what is called 'side tone' which is the process of regeneration of the speaker's voice in the ear phone/speaker. In the POTS land line this is set at a nominal standard level. When people don;t hear themselves they subconsciously increase their voice to compensate. The problem is first that the cell phone handsets have different audio characteristics which is complicated by two factors. This being the different designs of the cell systems themselves (CDMA,TDMA,GSM, etc) and to a greater extent the process of the technicians setting the levels. So long as the call is within the system the audio is nominally the same but as soon as it crossed the system boundaries to the outside land line all bets are off. The technology exist to address this problem but effective process will almost double the cost of a single handset. the cell companies push the low cost handsets as a way to get people on their systems. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 16:54:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:54:59 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Worthy screen saver References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b1r60f$qko$1@news.spamcop.net... Already doing this with my google tool bar at work. Still haven't been invited to take part with my system at home. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 18:37:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 10:37:01 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Worthy screen saver References: Message-ID: Actually my computers split their time between Seti@home and United Devices cancer research. I don't have room for a third program. "YK" wrote in message news:b1r60f$qko$1@news.spamcop.net... > Donate your computer time to help us fold proteins. > Our science seeks to understand how proteins fold and assemble into living > cells. > Understanding protein folding will help make better treatments for diseases. > > http://www.distributedfolding.com > > http://www.distributedfolding.com/about.html > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 19:21:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 11:21:03 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Worthy screen saver References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > >Actually my computers split their time between Seti@home and United Devices >cancer research. I don't have room for a third program. http://www.intel.com/cure/ http://www.ud.com/home.htm From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 19:34:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:34:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams Message-ID: In news:b1boc3$10pg$1@news.grc.com, Ted Quantrill typed: > By Michelle Delio > "Internet users are mystified by a tricky browser add-on called > Xupiter that installs itself without permission and defies attempts > to remove it. Once active in a system, it periodically changes users' > designated homepages to xupiter.com, redirects all searches to > Xupiter's site, and blocks any attempts to restore the original > browser settings. The program also attempts to download updates each > time an affected computer boots up, and has been blamed for causing > system crashes. Some are calling the program the most insidious thing > on the Web." > > http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams According to domain-name registration records, Xupiter.com is owned by a Hungarian company, but sources say that Xupiter's real owners are the Yomtobians, who reside in Sherman Oaks, California. http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57553,00.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 19:35:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:35:37 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Worthy screen saver References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b1ro7b$9ml$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > Borgholio wrote: > > > > > >Actually my computers split their time between Seti@home and United Devices > >cancer research. I don't have room for a third program. > > http://www.intel.com/cure/ > > http://www.ud.com/home.htm > > That's exactly the United Devices program I'm talking about. :) It shares CPU time with SETI. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 19:54:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Brian Tillman) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 14:54:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Does it really help? Message-ID: Religiously I report SPAM I receive through Spamcop. I wonder, though, if it really helps. It sure doesn't seem to. Network providers like Genuity, Verio, and others seem to be selling bandwidth to SPAMmers as fast as their cash registers can take in the money. -- Brian Tillman Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com Smiths Aerospace Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 This opinion doesn't represent that of my company From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 21:01:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:01:51 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Windows Icon Battle Message-ID: http://www.divstivs.plus.com/iconwar/ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 21:10:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Joseph Singer) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:10:33 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1rd7g$1o5$1@news.spamcop.net... > The problem has to do with what is called 'side tone' which is the process > of regeneration of the speaker's voice in the ear phone/speaker. In the > POTS land line this is set at a nominal standard level. When people don;t > hear themselves they subconsciously increase their voice to compensate. > > The problem is first that the cell phone handsets have different audio > characteristics which is complicated by two factors. This being the > different designs of the cell systems themselves (CDMA,TDMA,GSM, etc) and to > a greater extent the process of the technicians setting the levels. So long > as the call is within the system the audio is nominally the same but as soon > as it crossed the system boundaries to the outside land line all bets are > off. > > The technology exist to address this problem but effective process will > almost double the cost of a single handset. the cell companies push the low > cost handsets as a way to get people on their systems. I do find that if I use the handset by itself of course there's no sidetone. I believe part of the reason why this is absent in mobiles is that if there was an appreciable amount of sidetone there'd be feedback because the distance from the transmitter to the receiver is shorter than the average land line handset. I do notice however when I use my Plantronics headset with my mobile that I do get sidetone and it's much easier to adjust my voice to acceptable levels. Then again because there's no perception of side tone on mobiles many people who just are not that used to mobiles want to overcompensate because they don't get the feedback that sidetone gives. That's probably part of the reason people don't speak at normal levels. Also I'd guess that if you're in a noisy environment even though the party you're speaking to can probably hear you just fine because you have extraneous noise that makes it hard for you to hear you assume that your party at the other end of the phone is having problems as well. They may hear a lot of background noise, but they probably can hear you just fine. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 21:22:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:22:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Joseph Singer" wrote in message news:b1r91g$sug$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Sorry, that's not the Sprint PCS commercial. That's the advert for Verizon > Wireless. Much more annoying than the Sprint PCS trenchcoat guy. > > I actually don't find the Verizon guy anywhere near as annoying as the patronising trenchcoat guy, and I really can't believe that Sprint are selling their product solely on the basis of it's alleged clear calls. sheesh. Talking about Verizon... Before I got a router, I used to take a small amount of pleasure from being welcomed to Verizon DSL by 'Darth Vader', every time I connected. ;-) While I'm thinking about commercials, I'd do away with all the drug company commercials if I were all powerful. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 21:22:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 16:22:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] C&C Re: Windows Icon Battle References: Message-ID: In news:b1ru3s$fhb$1@news.spamcop.net, Joseph Singer typed: > http://www.divstivs.plus.com/iconwar/ Where was the C&C? I don't have a cat and was not drinking anything luckily. Great! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 22:22:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:22:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1r8ce$sad$1@news.spamcop.net... > What my neighbors see and think is what I allow them to see not what I don;t > want them to know/see. FWIW many think I;m a multi-millionaire. > Interesting point is I've done nothing covert to give them that impression. Somehow there is a difference between legal privacy to protect oneself from tyrants so that you can continue to exercise your other rights (like free assembly, free press, etc.) and what is none of my neighbor's business. Somewhere in there is also the honest man's willingness to stand up and be counted. > My concern is what the current administration and the law they proglomate > can and have done to my privacy. I think there is a lot of reason to be concerned - particularly because it is the government looking for "bad" people. > Under current law the drug companies have access to my and my family's > medical records. Because my wife's initials are similar to my daughter's > she has received detailed data on my daughter's medical condition. This is > not a problem as they have a very open relationship but the potential for > abuse is strong. > > What is more disturbing is that there is nothing that can be done to address > the inappropriate release of the data. > > the only difference between then and now is now it is legal to collect the > data. Do you really believe it won;t be abused? And that's the challenge: to be able to use it for the reasons it was collected while safeguarding against accidental release and abuse. Or deciding that the potential for abuse outweighs whatever good is being accomplished. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 23:16:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:16:21 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: | I do find that if I use the handset by itself of course there's no sidetone. | I believe part of the reason why this is absent in mobiles is that if there | was an appreciable amount of sidetone there'd be feedback because the | distance from the transmitter to the receiver is shorter than the average | land line handset. | | I do notice however when I use my Plantronics headset with my mobile that I | do get sidetone and it's much easier to adjust my voice to acceptable | levels. Then again because there's no perception of side tone on mobiles | many people who just are not that used to mobiles want to overcompensate | because they don't get the feedback that sidetone gives. That's probably | part of the reason people don't speak at normal levels. Also I'd guess that | if you're in a noisy environment even though the party you're speaking to | can probably hear you just fine because you have extraneous noise that makes | it hard for you to hear you assume that your party at the other end of the | phone is having problems as well. They may hear a lot of background noise, | but they probably can hear you just fine. Size is not the issue. $$$ is. (I hold IPR in the technology and would *love* for them to do $omething with it) Same goes for background noise. There is some design included but not what is necessarey to do the job right. Same issue $$$. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 23:12:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:12:43 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: | | Somehow there is a difference between legal privacy to protect oneself from | tyrants so that you can continue to exercise your other rights (like free | assembly, free press, etc.) and what is none of my neighbor's business. | Somewhere in there is also the honest man's willingness to stand up and be | counted. | | I think there is a lot of reason to be concerned - particularly because it | is the government looking for "bad" people. I'm very concerned about what has been done in the past. EX I'm handed the medical records on a reports to (me) and their family by HR. Took the company less than six months but they eased the person out company on a trumped up justification. The real reasons: the projected long term medical cost of the family. As to the government looking for 'bad' guys. That's fine but like Pogo once said 'We have met the enemy and da is us' we have the likes of Poindexter and the Plumbers crew inside the government. What to take any bets on how their access will be controlled and further how the information gained will be used? I once caught (red handed and on tape) the head of the purchasing department of a major city on the take. You have no idea of the back ground investigation me and mine underwent by his political pals. Nobody went to jail. It took two/three election cycles (and the normal progression of the grim reaper) to get the bad guys out. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 23:28:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:28:50 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Stealing shuttle debris - 10 yrs in jail References: Message-ID: Two comment from one of the Texas news groups. 1) first post: Well, well, well.... two idiots in east Texas have now been arrested for illegal appropriation of government property, i.e. Columbia shuttle debris. Looks like they're facing 10 years in jail if convicted. 2) response: NASA could save a lot of effort and money by just showing up a Canton's First Monday flea market in a few weeks. FYI Canton (TX) is one of the largest flea markets in the country. When it is open almost the entire county is involved & occupied by vendor/visitors. You can literally buy anything there that you can image (and a lot that makes you wonder 'whatsit?) FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 5 23:49:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:49:59 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1s61a$lth$1@news.spamcop.net... > | > | Somehow there is a difference between legal privacy to protect oneself > from > | tyrants so that you can continue to exercise your other rights (like free > | assembly, free press, etc.) and what is none of my neighbor's business. > | Somewhere in there is also the honest man's willingness to stand up and be > | counted. > | > > | I think there is a lot of reason to be concerned - particularly because it > | is the government looking for "bad" people. > > I'm very concerned about what has been done in the past. EX I'm handed the > medical records on a reports to (me) and their family by HR. Took the > company less than six months but they eased the person out company on a > trumped up justification. The real reasons: the projected long term medical > cost of the family. That's something that I thought of, but didn't get into. I am not so sure that the present insurance system is a GoodThing. Partly because it is not really based on a pool which probably will make it "fair" for everyone, but on profits. Aside from health, I know several people who had their auto and homeowners' insurance cancelled because they reported hail damage. It defeats the whole purpose of insurance. A friend of mine (who does have insurance) and who is a devout Christian of the fundamentalist kind said that if we *really* trusted in God, we wouldn't need insurance. Being a little bit more practical, I wonder if medical savings accounts might work better. > As to the government looking for 'bad' guys. That's fine but like Pogo once > said 'We have met the enemy and da is us' we have the likes of Poindexter > and the Plumbers crew inside the government. What to take any bets on how > their access will be controlled and further how the information gained will > be used? I think that you misunderstood me. I do NOT like the government having access to my records in order to discover "bad" guys. > I once caught (red handed and on tape) the head of the purchasing department > of a major city on the take. You have no idea of the back ground > investigation me and mine underwent by his political pals. Nobody went to > jail. It took two/three election cycles (and the normal progression of the > grim reaper) to get the bad guys out. > How frustrating! I am really cynical about challenging anyone in power. In fact, so cynical that I am almost apolitical. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 00:18:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 18:18:48 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: | That's something that I thought of, but didn't get into. I am not so sure | that the present insurance system is a GoodThing. Partly because it is not | really based on a pool which probably will make it "fair" for everyone, but | on profits. Aside from health, I know several people who had their auto and | homeowners' insurance cancelled because they reported hail damage. It | defeats the whole purpose of insurance. A friend of mine (who does have | insurance) and who is a devout Christian of the fundamentalist kind said | that if we *really* trusted in God, we wouldn't need insurance. Being a | little bit more practical, I wonder if medical savings accounts might work | better. Insurance make the rules. Tthey literllay own the insrunce commission and hold the morgae on our legislative process. Tort reform is not about fairness but preventing the little guy from having realistic access to the courts. (FWIW over the past 10 years of so there has been general decrease in private individual legal action but an exponential increase in B2B legal action. Yet the tort reform keeps screaming 'McD's coffie grab' Same goes with bankruptcy. Great effort to reform the bankruptcy rules as it effects the little guy but none to prevent the likes ENRON form running debts and bailing. (FWIW at least private 50% of bankruptcies are the result of medical debts and disability. Not so strange is that these debts are the result of the insurance industry shafting the disabled and sick. BTW SSA is not far behind the insurcance industry as it takes on average 465 days for SSA to process claims. (It was less but SSA committed to change -- it did and got longer.) | > As to the government looking for 'bad' guys. That's fine but like Pogo | once said 'We have met the enemy and da is us' we have the likes of Poindexter | > and the Plumbers crew inside the government. What to take any bets on how | > their access will be controlled and further how the information gained | will be used? | | I think that you misunderstood me. I do NOT like the government having | access to my records in order to discover "bad" guys. | I did not think that of you but sensed where the tread was going. | > I once caught (red handed and on tape) the head of the purchasing | department of a major city on the take. You have no idea of the back ground | > investigation me and mine underwent by his political pals. Nobody went to | > jail. It took two/three election cycles (and the normal progression of | the grim reaper) to get the bad guys out. | > | | How frustrating! I am really cynical about challenging anyone in power. In | fact, so cynical that I am almost apolitical. I'm a firm believer in speaking up less there be no one left to speak. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 00:51:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:51:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1sa2t$ona$1@news.spamcop.net... > > | That's something that I thought of, but didn't get into. I am not so sure > | that the present insurance system is a GoodThing. Partly because it is > not > | really based on a pool which probably will make it "fair" for everyone, > but > | on profits. Aside from health, I know several people who had their auto > and > | homeowners' insurance cancelled because they reported hail damage. It > | defeats the whole purpose of insurance. A friend of mine (who does have > | insurance) and who is a devout Christian of the fundamentalist kind said > | that if we *really* trusted in God, we wouldn't need insurance. Being a > | little bit more practical, I wonder if medical savings accounts might work > | better. > > Insurance make the rules. Tthey literllay own the insrunce commission and > hold the morgae on our legislative process. And that's why I think that perhaps it would be better to trust in God albeit being a good steward by setting aside money for medical problems. Or by starting "credit union" type insurance policies where there are no profits to be made. If rates go up, it is because there are more claims being made. There is a limit to how much medical care one needs. I have a friend who is a nurse who thinks that anyone over 60 should not be eligible for organ transplants and other medical procedures that cost a great deal of money. some of the procedures are extremely expensive. Looking at it as "our" expense, not as the insurance company's, would we really spend that much money to live a few months longer at a reduced quality of life? especially if it were taking the money from our children's or grandchildren's education funds? > Tort reform is not about fairness but preventing the little guy from having > realistic access to the courts. (FWIW over the past 10 years of so there > has been general decrease in private individual legal action but an > exponential increase in B2B legal action. Yet the tort reform keeps > screaming 'McD's coffie grab' > > Same goes with bankruptcy. Great effort to reform the bankruptcy rules as > it effects the little guy but none to prevent the likes ENRON form running > debts and bailing. (FWIW at least private 50% of bankruptcies are the > result of medical debts and disability. Not so strange is that these debts > are the result of the insurance industry shafting the disabled and sick. > > BTW SSA is not far behind the insurcance industry as it takes on average 465 > days for SSA to process claims. (It was less but SSA committed to change -- > it did and got longer.) Bureaucracy always has problems. Another reason why it is better to rely on "pure" charity if one cannot pay one's bills. > | > I once caught (red handed and on tape) the head of the purchasing > | department of a major city on the take. You have no idea of the back > ground > | > investigation me and mine underwent by his political pals. Nobody went > to > | > jail. It took two/three election cycles (and the normal progression of > | the grim reaper) to get the bad guys out. > | > > | > | How frustrating! I am really cynical about challenging anyone in power. > In > | fact, so cynical that I am almost apolitical. > > I'm a firm believer in speaking up less there be no one left to speak. Particularly in the area of "governmental" invasions of privacy, I am in complete agreement with you. The problem with democracy is that, as you said, "we have met the enemy and they is us." No democratic government can oppress its people because the "people" always have a right to speak up. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 01:11:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:11:28 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: | And that's why I think that perhaps it would be better to trust in God | albeit being a good steward by setting aside money for medical problems. Or | by starting "credit union" type insurance policies where there are no | profits to be made. If rates go up, it is because there are more claims | being made. There is a limit to how much medical care one needs. I have a | friend who is a nurse who thinks that anyone over 60 should not be eligible | for organ transplants and other medical procedures that cost a great deal of | money. some of the procedures are extremely expensive. Looking at it as | "our" expense, not as the insurance company's, would we really spend that | much money to live a few months longer at a reduced quality of life? | especially if it were taking the money from our children's or | grandchildren's education funds? | That is what Blue Cross/Blue Shield was about but these companies are being taken private to the tune of big bucks for the insiders. What your friend is advocating is 'evidence based medicine' AKA rationing. Interesting point is that the majority of the advocates of this process do not and will not allow the procedure to apply to themselves or their loved ones. I'm disabled in part because of such goings on. My insurance company said my chest pains were 'all in my head' and would not pay for the necessary test. The justification 'Not Medically Necessary'. Every time I went to the ER the insurance company 'hospitalest' would show up decline payment and send me home. The last time the insurance guy was delayed and I got to see a real doc (cardiologist who happened to be passing the ER when I came in.). Wound up with an emergency 3X by pass. My wife was told I likely would not make it. My disability insurance carrier tried to get out of paying (they succeeded for other reasons) because I 'failed to undertake recommend medical procedures'. The exact same procedures denied by another division of the same company. (A Catch 22) Explanation: Different cost centers. Under ERISA (federal law) my recourse against my medical insurance for denying treatment was the cost of the denied procedure ~ $1000.00. No provision for lost income, no damages, court cost or legal fees. (filing fee alone were over $500 bucks) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 02:59:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:59:08 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More funnies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns93184DEB82017charles@216.154.195.60... > > [Fund raising the way it should be, for Heidi, 1] > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030204.gif ***Hmm... > > [Raising your dog like you should, for Heidi, 2] > http://dilbert.com/comics/gofigure/archive/images/gofigure2018290403020 > [SUV's, for Heidi, 3!] > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030204.gif **yeah, and look who's driving it... ;) > > [Snowshoes, aka for Heidi, 4] > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030204.gif > ***haaaaaaaaaaaa....... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 02:56:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:56:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Poor Laci Peterson... Message-ID: what a piece of crap she married... http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Peterson_030205.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 03:40:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig Sturdivant) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:40:22 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Movie suggestions References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b1nf17$da8$1@news.spamcop.net... > I haven't seen either of those yet. I saw The Guru this past weekend which > was great fun. I believe Shanghai Knights is coming out this weekend and if > it's as good as Shanghai Noon you should enjoy it. Have you seen About > Schmidt or Chicago? I loved Chicago and About Schmidt is one I have to see > soon. I saw a clip of The Guru on either Letterman or O'Brien, and it looked weird. They showed a clip of an Indian version of Greese. Shanghai Knights looks funny, and I have not seen About Schmidt, and my date went out and saw Chicago with her girlfriends (yeah for me, I do not like musicals). I've heard that The Recruit is good, so I might be leaning towards that movie. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 03:41:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig Sturdivant) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:41:46 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: I'm back...(again) References: <3E3F6CEB.9C03283D@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "GregR" wrote in message news:3E3F6CEB.9C03283D@suespammers.org.NULL... > So life is good, eh?... :-) It could be better, but I will not complain (since it does no good at all). > > I'll try to be a regular once again.... > > For good regularity, the SC Nutritionist suggests a diet high in fiber. :-) I'll stick to my homebrewed beer, which seems to be like fiber. :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 04:26:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 05:26:57 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" a écrit dans le message de news: b1rb7o$u9e$2@news.spamcop.net > kram wrote: > > > A last name > > Correct. What about Ciccone in Madonna Louise Ciccone? And I didn't know about Cher (that she took the trouble of having it removed I mean) Does even her IRS form not show a last name? Tony. > > > the > > Correct. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 04:34:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 05:34:06 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns931853DF9B963charles@216.154.195.60 > It wasn't me! It was Antoine J. Mechelynck! > > > Round blue is "you must", square or oblong blue is "notice" > > And this is really logical??? I just don't think so! It's a convention, it doesn't have to be logical. Round blue ("you have to") is the opposite of round red-rimmed ("you have not to"), so there is some logic in it still. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 05:03:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:03:10 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1s7t6$n8k$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > A friend of > mine (who does have insurance) and who is a devout Christian of the > fundamentalist kind said that if we *really* trusted in God, we wouldn't > need insurance. Being a little bit more practical, I wonder if medical > savings accounts might work better. [...] > Miss Betsy When Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod, churches wouldn't put one on their steeples because "they had faith in God". Then lightning started striking *only* on the churches because the other buildings were lower and/or had ligtning rods. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 05:15:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 06:15:15 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spell Checker References: Message-ID: "Nilla" a écrit dans le message de news: b1pcn8$nb2$1@news.spamcop.net > Spell Checker > > I have a spelling chequer > It came with my pee sea > It plainly marques four my revue > Miss steaks eye cannot sea. > > When eye strike a quay, right a word > I weight four it to say > Weather eye am wrong oar wright > It shows me strait aweigh. > > As soon as a mist ache is maid > It nose bee fore two late > And eye can put the error rite > Its rarely, rarely grate. > > I've run this poem threw it > I'm shore your pleased two no > Its letter perfect in it's weigh > My chequer tolled me sew. > > "Sauce unknown" ROFLMAO. I had tea but happily not in my mouth. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 07:43:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?E=F6nw=EB?=) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 02:43:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 01:32:17 -0800, Guy Macon wrote: >Here are a couple of other questions, but be warned - the >answers may be jokes, puns or silly wordplay rather than >being strictly correct! These should be solvable without >doing any researching of facts. >[1] > Arnold Schwartzenegger has a big one. > Michael J. Fox has a small one. > Madonna doesn't have one. > Cher had one, but had it removed. > The Pope has one but doesn't use it. > Bob Dole uses his all the time. > We never saw Lucy use Desi's. > What is it? Last name/surname/family name. >[2] >What do jack the Ripper and Kermit the Frog have in common? The word 'the' as part of their epithetical names. -- Eönwë (SpamCop subscriber, not staff/admin) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 08:30:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (DeAnna) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 02:30:54 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Paging Charles! Message-ID: Check the anole page, I put up two pics tonight (sorry but it is almost 2:30am and I have to get up at 7am). More later...perhaps tomorrow or Friday. :) http://lamb.iswiz.com/anoles.html I ended up putting door seals around the screens and another type of bottom door seal (flap-type) over the gaps in the top. I need a basking lamp and some more wood, but so far they seem to like it. Note how 'un' social they are in the one pic. LOL D. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 08:41:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:41:27 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Joseph Singer" a écrit dans le message de news: b1ruk7$foj$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > I do notice however when I use my Plantronics headset with my mobile that > I do get sidetone and it's much easier to adjust my voice to acceptable > levels. Then again because there's no perception of side tone on mobiles > many people who just are not that used to mobiles want to overcompensate > because they don't get the feedback that sidetone gives. That's probably > part of the reason people don't speak at normal levels. Also I'd guess > that if you're in a noisy environment even though the party you're > speaking to can probably hear you just fine because you have extraneous > noise that makes it hard for you to hear you assume that your party at > the other end of the phone is having problems as well. They may hear a > lot of background noise, but they probably can hear you just fine. Part of that is a question of geometry. Sound waves attenuate proportionally to the square of the distance. Let's say your mouth is half an inch from the mike, and the noise source is a yard away. Since there are 72 half-inches in a yard, the noise is attenuated 72*72 = 5184 times by respect to your voice. No wonder the person at the other end doesn't hear the noise. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 09:38:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:38:44 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b19b3o$8bk$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Too bad that some people know it all without discussion...that's the road > to war. > > Miss Betsy I should frame that one. The more I learn, the more I feel ignorant. -- Socrates. Entre nous soit dit, bonnes gens, pour reconnaître Que l'on n'est pas intelligent, il faudrait l'être. -- G. Brassens (Approximate translation [mine]: Between you and me, good people, in order to admit / That one is not clever, one should be it.) Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 10:15:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:15:07 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b19fln$d68$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Did I say "No point in talking and better action"? I thought I said that > no one was going to be happy - whatever is decided about the chemical > weapons (and terrorism), the solution is not going to be easy to carry > out. It shouldn't make anyone happy with himself to go to war or to > think that there are "bombs" just waiting to go off because they haven't > been found and destroyed. Or to spend time and money on constant > vigilance so they don't. Or whatever another scenario is. [...] > If all I have heard is to beat them over the head until they listen, it is > only if I discuss with someone else how to deal with an issue that I > might discover there is another way to get people to listen. I may, or > may not, agree that it is a better way, but at least I know there is an > alternative. And knowing there is an alternative, I may look for another > alternative and find an even better solution. [...] > I don't know why - but there it is. One has to live with the fact he is > president and that Saddam Hussein is not friendly. The discussion is how > do we? Is war against Iraq supportable? If it is, then it doesn't > matter who is president. If it isn't, then no matter who is president, > it might be that one should *do* something to avert it - like protest. > OTOH, sometimes the best thing to do is to live peacefully. Having strong > opinions, being willing to stand up for them by presenting facts and > theories to others, listening and learning, and considering some > behaviors wrong are not barriers to peaceful living. It is not all right > for spammers to be happy in their spamming activities. But neither > should I be attacking them with Denial of service. If they don't like it > because I won't accept their email, that's their problem. The only way > we'd both be happy is if one of us changed. > > > Miss "verbose rant" Alas, why are there so many people who "know it all", to the point of not listening to any arguments? It reminds me of the calif, to the military conqueror of Alexandria, talking about what to do of the library: "If what these books say is in the Qurân, burn them, for they are unneeded. If it isn't, burn them, for they are dangerous." Such attitude is of course not limited to the Moslem world, a lot of Christians, atheists, and others, have it too. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 10:30:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:30:56 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b19jvg$ha8$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Those are the questions we(tinw) should be asking? Also I read in a > newspaper column yesterday (which may not have been yesterday's paper) > that there is also the question of whether we (the US) want to be > responsible for Iraq after the war - that instead of being like Germany > after WWII that just needed a little bit of help, Iraq may be one of > those places in the world where there are too many ancient animosities, > different cultures to ever control except with an iron hand so we either > support another dictator or be the iron hand ourselves. [...] > Miss Betsy You may have found the truth there -- and an unpalatable one at that. IMHO few people will have the courage to look that truth in the face before it is too late and they hit it head-on. And I for one don't believe in the people of Iraq letting an American "iron hand" rule them for any length of time, so -- the answer is left to the student as an exercise (I don't dare spell it out.) BTW, was the Marshall plan really such a "little" bit of help? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 10:48:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:48:29 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E37324B.B45F0FCE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383CFD.5C8F4C0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EA0F.BA2ECD64@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E39EA0F.BA2ECD64@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com > Frog Prince wrote: > > > > Besides all that, purely on an economic standpoint China and the US > > > want > > to > > > avoid confrontation at all costs. > > > > Funny how a cash relationship tends to stifle military activities. > > One thing I worry about.. too much dependency to Chinese manufacturing, > may be as bad as the oil depency as well. > > I'm still wondering about the situation with Taiwan tho. They really want > to "assimilate" that nation, but they know the US will not tolerate an > invasion there. Speaking of "assimilating", maybe it'll take them a little time to "digest" Hong Kong and -- what was the other one? Macau? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 11:09:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:09:30 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Do you ever... References: Message-ID: "Craig Sturdivant" a écrit dans le message de news: b14si7$ea7$1@news.spamcop.net > Do you ever get a song in your mind, and then can't get it out? Is this > song ever a very annoying song? My god it is happening to me right now. [...] Happens to me all the time. Only cure I know is to purposely start humming or singing some *other* song, hopefully a less annoying one. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 11:50:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:50:16 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Base 64 Encoding screws up SpamCop HTML verification (long!) References: <3E35AFA8.8B27F889@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns93118BB689CF0charles@216.154.195.60 > It wasn't me! It was indigo! > > > "Charles" wrote > > > Registrant: > > > Relentless and Ruthless Anti-Spam Vigilantes. > > > > I just can't read that without repeating the lines to "The Spanish > > Inquisition" skit > > I wouldn't expect that of you, sir! > > Anyway, poor John can't even keep his aliases straight! But, you know, > maybe we could help him out a little... Just plain RAS (instead or > RAAS or RRASV) sounds fine to me... Ask Tony what it means ;) Only RAS I know of is "Rien à signaler", i.e., "Nothing to report". Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 12:21:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 04:21:44 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >Part of that is a question of geometry. Sound waves attenuate proportionally >to the square of the distance. Let's say your mouth is half an inch from the >mike, and the noise source is a yard away. Since there are 72 half-inches in >a yard, the noise is attenuated 72*72 = 5184 times by respect to your voice. >No wonder the person at the other end doesn't hear the noise. The above assumes point sources. The vocal tract to cell phone case is a finite plane source with a measuring point close to the plane compared to the dimensions of the plane, and thus exhibits constant sound intensity as the distanace is varied. It's only after you move the phone far enough away from your mouth that the measuring point is far from the plane compared to the dimensions of the plane that the sound intensity falls in inverse proportion to the distance squared. The noise sources in a typical room are a diifuse field and are about the same at all points unless you get close to a particular source. What happens is that each voice becomes a virtual infinite line source when you look at the ceiling/floor reflections, plus another two line sources from the wall reflections. The sound intensity of a line source falls in inverse proportion to the distance, not the distance squared. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 12:26:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:26:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1tdh0$f8a$1@news.spamcop.net... > BTW, was the Marshall plan really such a "little" bit of help? The columnist was ignoring the economic side - which is probably accurate since we do still send "foreign aid" to many countries who are still anti-American. IIRC, North Korea is one of them. It would be just the setting up and implementing democratic procedures, creating political parties, and that kind of thing under the supervision of the US until it works on its own. I am too young to remember the particulars of the Marshall Plan and whether it was different than the foreign aid we now send. Of course, many people believe that economic aid is what will eradicate the terrorists since people with education, jobs, and enough left over for recreation are not likely to be interested in rocking the boat. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 12:35:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 07:35:31 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b1scoq$qnv$1@news.spamcop.net... . (A Catch 22) Explanation: Different cost centers. > > Under ERISA (federal law) my recourse against my medical insurance for > denying treatment was the cost of the denied procedure ~ $1000.00. No > provision for lost income, no damages, court cost or legal fees. (filing > fee alone were over $500 bucks) > Yes, the whole medical insurance issue has produced totally criminal solutions IMHO. I am surprised that people in the .help group are so thin skinned. They must never have dealt with the front line insurance company clerks. IMHO they are hired because they are rude and arrogant so the poor convalescent person gives up and does not get the proper compensation. Not only that, but uninsured people have to pay the full inflated price of services that the insurance companies negotiate down. For instance, an ER visit costs $200.00. The insurance company won't pay more than $75.00, but the uninsured person pays the full $200.00. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 12:41:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:41:11 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1tk7d$js9$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > I am too young to remember the particulars of the Marshall Plan and > whether it was different than the foreign aid we now send. Me too, but my granny used to talk about it. > Of course, > many people believe that economic aid is what will eradicate the > terrorists since people with education, jobs, and enough left over for > recreation are not likely to be interested in rocking the boat. > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Economic aid is not meaningful if (as I believe is too often the case) it goes only to the Pinochets, Mobutus, bin-Sauds, Kims, et al. I'd say books to the people sometimes come before money&goods to the "country" in that matter. "Give me a fish, I'll have food for one day. Teach me fishing, I'll have food all my life." Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:02:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:02:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1tl57$k8j$1@news.spamcop.net... [...]> Economic aid is not meaningful if (as I believe is too often the case) it > goes only to the Pinochets, Mobutus, bin-Sauds, Kims, et al. I'd say books > to the people sometimes come before money&goods to the "country" in that > matter. > > "Give me a fish, I'll have food for one day. Teach me fishing, I'll have > food all my life." > When I support overseas charities, I try to support ones that do teach "fishing" I was going to give examples, but the particulars have gone fishin' -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:08:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:08:15 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Base 64 Encoding screws up SpamCop HTML verification (long!) References: <3E35AFA8.8B27F889@spamcop.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Antoine J. Mechelynck! > "Charles" wrote >> Just plain RAS (instead or RAAS or RRASV) sounds fine to me... Ask >> Tony what it means ;) > > Only RAS I know of is "Rien à signaler", i.e., "Nothing to > report". And for the rabid one does it not seem fitting? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:11:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 05:11:02 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >"Give me a fish, I'll have food for one day. Teach me fishing, I'll have >food all my life." Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will tend to call in sick on warm summer days. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:13:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:13:29 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" a écrit dans le message de news: b1tmth$lg3$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Teach a man to > fish, and he will tend to call in sick on warm summer days. lol Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:12:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 14:12:05 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1tmbn$l5s$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > When I support overseas charities, I try to support ones that do teach > "fishing" I was going to give examples, but the particulars have gone > fishin' > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user :-) However, for good or ill, government-funded "cooperation" is often much richer (and less discerning) than you or I... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:48:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Charles! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was DeAnna! > Note how 'un' social they are in the one pic. Cute cute cute! Love the shot of the four (oops! five) lined up.... And the one of the anoles + cat (third up) :) Guess who'd just -love- to have you over for dinner! Anyway, wow! That thing is enormous! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 13:45:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 13:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Yo! Da funnies! Message-ID: [some doctors...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/dp/2003/dp030206.gif [classic] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ch/1992/ch920206.gif [da shrub] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/bo/2003/bo030206.gif {??] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020603.gif [4 kram] http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030123.gif [the continuing story of tech support that's gone to the dogs...] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005226.gif Hey, Heidi, like, sorry if you didn't think those other ones funny... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 14:41:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:41:27 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] URGENT PLEA References: Message-ID: Urgent assistance - from USA immediate attention needed : highly confidential from: george walker bush 202.456.1414 / 202.456.1111 fax: 202.456.2461 dear sir / madam, I am George Walker Bush, son of the former president of the United States of America George Herbert Walker Bush, and currently serving as president of the United States of America. This letter might surprise you because we have not met neither in person nor by correspondence. I came to know of you in my search for a reliable and reputable person to handle a very confidential business transaction, which involves the transfer of a huge sum of money to an account requiring maximum confidence. I am writing you in absolute confidence primarily to seek your assistance in acquiring oil funds that are presently trapped in the republic of iraq. My partners and I solicit your assistance in completing a transaction begun by my father, who has long been actively engaged in the extraction of petroleum in the united states of america, and bravely served his country as director of the United States Central Intelligence Agency. In the decade of the nineteen-eighties, my father, then vice-president of the United States of America, sought to work with the good offices of the president of the republic of iraq to regain lost oil revenue sources in the neighboring islamic republic of iran. This unsuccessful venture was soon followed by a falling-out with his iraqi partner, who sought to acquire additional oil revenue sources in the neighboring emirate of kuwait, a wholly-owned u.s.-british subsidiary. My father re-secured the petroleum assets of kuwait in 1991 at a cost of sixty-one billion u.s. dollars ($61,000,000,000). Out of that cost, thirty-six billion dollars ($36,000,000,000) were supplied by his partners in the kingdom of saudi arabia and other persian gulf monarchies, and sixteen billion dollars ($16,000,000,000) by german and japanese partners. But my father's former iraqi business partner remained in control of the republic of iraq and its petroleum reserves. My family is calling for your urgent assistance in funding the removal of the president of the republic of iraq and acquiring the petroleum assets of his country, as compensation for the costs of removing him from power. Unfortunately, our partners from 1991 are not willing to shoulder the burden of this new venture, which in its upcoming phase may cost the sum of 100 billion to 200 billion dollars ($100,000,000,000 - $200,000,000,000), both in the initial acquisition and in long-term management. Without the funds from our 1991 partners, we would not be able to acquire the oil revenue trapped within iraq. That is why my family and our colleagues are urgently seeking your gracious assistance. Our distinguished colleagues in this business transaction include the sitting vice-president of the united states of america, richard cheney, who is an original partner in the iraq venture and former head of the halliburton oil company, and condoleeza rice, whose professional dedication to the venture was demonstrated in the naming of a chevron oil tanker after her. I would beseech you to transfer a sum equaling ten to twenty-five percent (10-25 %) of your yearly income to our account to aid in this important venture. The internal revenue service of the united states of america will function as our trusted intermediary. I propose that you make this transfer before the fifteenth (15th) of the month of april. I know that a transaction of this magnitude would make anyone apprehensive and worried. But i am assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. A bold step taken shall not be regretted, i assure you. Please do be informed that this business transaction is 100% legal. If you do not wish to co-operate in this transaction, please contact our intermediary representatives to further discuss the matter. I pray that you understand our plight. My family and our colleagues will be forever grateful. Please reply in strict confidence to the contact numbers below. Sincerely with warm regards, George Walker Bush switchboard: 202.456.1414 comments: 202.456.1111 fax: 202.456.2461 email: president@whitehouse.gov ============================== (copyright www.jokeaday.com) ============================== From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 15:18:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:18:09 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: Message-ID: 'Twould be funny if it weren't pathetic. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 15:19:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:19:33 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.01.30.23.24.07.377316@sneakemail.com... Today's addition: The phrase 'At the end of the day', used to mean 'the end result.' From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 15:58:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 10:58:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1sqae$3tr$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: > b1s7t6$n8k$1@news.spamcop.net > [...] > > A friend of > > mine (who does have insurance) and who is a devout Christian of the > > fundamentalist kind said that if we *really* trusted in God, we wouldn't > > need insurance. Being a little bit more practical, I wonder if medical > > savings accounts might work better. > [...] > > Miss Betsy > > When Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod, churches wouldn't put one > on their steeples because "they had faith in God". Then lightning started > striking *only* on the churches because the other buildings were lower > and/or had ligtning rods. > Well, I know that trusting in God will not keep you from illness, but St. Francis de Sales said that "if God doesn't protect you from harm, He gives you the strength to bear it." Relying on insurance to pay all your bills is contributing to individual irresponsibility and entitlement. In my town, many people have extremely good health insurance plans from the big union employer. People can get a new set of frames every year or two whether they need them or not. I don't have vision insurance so it is a real decision whether to get new frames so I don't look dowdy. I have to do without something else. Because my husband was in the military, we have medical insurance that is very similar to Medicare. We have to pay part of the cost so we have supplemental insurance. Most years we never use it because we are healthy. Theorectically I could put that money spent on premiums aside and would have enough when and if I needed it except that the price of many medical procedures are so expensive that possibly I would have to go in debt or not be able to afford it - like Hans Brinker's father and then we are back to insurance as a practical way to allow everyone access to medical procedures. I heard a discussion on NPR this morning that kidney transplants (that are not covered by insurance) might be more cost effective in the long run than dialysis (that is covered). I have read stories of people who refuse dialysis because of the quality of life, preferring to die, yet people every day opt for expensive and painful chemotherapy when the odds are that it will not work. Is mortality a blessing? Or is it something to overcome, like smallpox? Like it or not we are faced with more and more "godlike" decisions everyday. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 16:12:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:12:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1sjmh$v0l$1@news.spamcop.net... | what a piece of crap she married... | | http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Peterson_030205.html | And I thought _I_ had a schmuck om my hands.....He is looking more and more like a suspect every day. I am positive he had something to do with her disapperance. Who the h*ll goes fishing on Christmas eve with a new baby on the way? And trying to sell the house???? Somebody smack that man. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 16:22:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 11:22:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: <3E428BCF.201D180@spamcop.net> Early on I heard a news byte that he had been involved with a woman years ago before marrying Laci, who ALSO disappeared. Never heard about it again, so I don't know if it was unstantiated. Guy's a schmuck. Heidi wrote: > what a piece of crap she married... > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Peterson_030205.html From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 17:27:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:27:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1u1aa$sus$1@news.spamcop.net... > And I thought _I_ had a schmuck om my hands.....He is looking more and more > like a suspect every day. I am positive he had something to do with her > disapperance. Who the h*ll goes fishing on Christmas eve with a new baby on > the way? And trying to sell the house???? Somebody smack that man. > ***ITYM someone *arrest* that man. He has the coldest shiftiest eyes I've ever seen, (and yes, I base a lot on that, he is not a grieving man) and his story doesn't wash. He never left till midday to go fishing at a spot that was hours away, and they were supposed to be at her parents that night for dinner - the timing never would have worked. I'm sure they're watching him like a hawk trying to catch him out. He doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed either, trying to get rid of his entire life with her as if that doesn't look suspicious....duh. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 17:29:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:29:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: <3E428BCF.201D180@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Linda" wrote in message news:3E428BCF.201D180@spamcop.net... > Early on I heard a news byte that he had been involved with a woman > years ago before marrying Laci, who ALSO disappeared. Never heard > about it again, so I don't know if it was unstantiated. Guy's a > schmuck. > **That would be an interesting side note, haven't heard that one. This was in the news though: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/02/06/MODESTO.TMP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 17:31:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:31:42 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1tueu$qos$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The phrase 'At the end of the day', used to mean 'the end result.' > That's a very British expression though, I don't hear it much here, but I hear it all the time on BBCA, sort of like saying 'when all is said and done'. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 17:33:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:33:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931A591E645E5charles@216.154.195.60... > Hey, Heidi, like, sorry if you didn't think those other ones funny... ...but I did...did you not see the 'haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 17:38:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 12:38:27 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1u612$1l8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Neil" wrote in message > news:b1tueu$qos$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > The phrase 'At the end of the day', used to mean 'the end result.' > > > That's a very British expression though, I don't hear it much here, but I > hear it all the time on BBCA, sort of like saying 'when all is said and > done'. > If that's true, then my colleagues here must have picked it up from my colleagues in the UK. Still annoying though, and a phrase I can easily live without. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 18:40:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 10:40:50 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: Neil wrote: >The phrase 'At the end of the day', used to mean 'the end result.' >...annoying though, and a phrase I can easily live without. I agree. Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 19:39:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 14:39:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E42B9EC.374F110A@spamcop.net> I find the Jordan's Furniture takeoffs on real ads amusing. L Joseph Singer wrote: > I find the nerdy "can you hear me now" Verizon nerd even more annoying than > the Sprint trenchcoat guy by far. I sort of find some of the Sprint adverts > amusing even though they are stupid. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 19:58:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 19:58:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Heidi! > > "Charles" wrote in message > news:Xns931A591E645E5charles@216.154.195.60... > >> Hey, Heidi, like, sorry if you didn't think those other ones >> funny... > > ...but I did...did you not see the 'haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa'? Eez laf? Hmm. Go figger! Say, could you explain that snowshoe one for me? I must be daft, but it didn't look that funny... And, say, did you catch the one a week or two ago on dog obedience training? Talk about funny... c! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:05:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean > "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." Uh, no, it doesn't. "Decimate originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions. Today this meaning is commonly extended to include the killing of any large proportion of a group." Common usage determines meaning as common usage ends up determining spelling. In the case of 'decimate', you have to read down to the third definition before you find your 10% meaning but the first meaning is "To destroy or kill a large part of (a group)." Thus, in the future all adjectives will also be adverbs and cartooney will be the correct spelling for cartoony. (Or, at the very least it will be the correct spelling for it when used as a noun.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:14:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:14:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931A984AD2A41charles@216.154.195.60... > > Eez laf? Hmm. Go figger! Say, could you explain that snowshoe one > for me? I must be daft, but it didn't look that funny... **I think it's funny if you imagine a dog on snowshoes trying to lift his leg on a fire hydrant....that'd be a bit awkward, the leg lifting part..... > > And, say, did you catch the one a week or two ago on dog obedience > training? Talk about funny... > **the man getting smacked in with a newspaper for drinking a martini, or another one? I was actually thinking of trying my dog's "zap" collar every time I reached for something other than a grapefruit....that'd change my behavior right quick, I think... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:25:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:25:48 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931A9990AD43Dcharles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! | || Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean || "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." | | Uh, no, it doesn't. | | "Decimate originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a | punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions. Today this | meaning is commonly extended to include the killing of any large | proportion of a group." | | Common usage determines meaning as common usage ends up determining | spelling. In the case of 'decimate', you have to read down to the | third definition before you find your 10% meaning but the first | meaning is "To destroy or kill a large part of (a group)." | | Thus, in the future all adjectives will also be adverbs and cartooney | will be the correct spelling for cartoony. (Or, at the very least it | will be the correct spelling for it when used as a noun.) Sorry Charlie...I have to agree with Guy on this one. The *original* meaning is "killing every 10th person" or "to reduce by 10 percent" ..... it has only come into the meaning of "to destroy totally" by *ahem* popular usage (people using the word incorrectly - "commonly extended to include...") -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:27:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:27:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:b1ufih$a88$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "Charles" wrote in message | news:Xns931A984AD2A41charles@216.154.195.60... || And, say, did you catch the one a week or two ago on dog obedience || training? Talk about funny... || | **the man getting smacked in with a newspaper for drinking a martini, | or another one? I was actually thinking of trying my dog's "zap" | collar every time I reached for something other than a | grapefruit....that'd change my behavior right quick, I think... ;) Do you think that might work for smoking????? Or staying in the bar too late (10 PM - ZAP!)??? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:40:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 15:40:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1ug8p$b19$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Do you think that might work for smoking????? Or staying in the bar too late > (10 PM - ZAP!)??? > **Actually, I think it might, you'd need a helper to "administer the correction" though, because you won't be able to do it yourself. I put it on my hand to test it out before I put it on her, and knowing I would get a zap I would not be tempted to do something twice. Now if the doggy gets the clue that running underneath the fence is a 'bad thing', so much the better..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:54:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 12:54:07 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: kram wrote: > >In news:Xns931A9990AD43Dcharles@216.154.195.60, > >Charles said something that sounded like: > >| It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! >| >|| Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean >|| "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." >| >| Uh, no, it doesn't. >| >| "Decimate originally referred to the killing of every tenth person, a >| punishment used in the Roman army for mutinous legions. Today this >| meaning is commonly extended to include the killing of any large >| proportion of a group." >| >| Common usage determines meaning as common usage ends up determining >| spelling. In the case of 'decimate', you have to read down to the >| third definition before you find your 10% meaning but the first >| meaning is "To destroy or kill a large part of (a group)." >| >| Thus, in the future all adjectives will also be adverbs and cartooney >| will be the correct spelling for cartoony. (Or, at the very least it >| will be the correct spelling for it when used as a noun.) > >Sorry Charlie...I have to agree with Guy on this one. The *original* meaning >is "killing every 10th person" or "to reduce by 10 percent" ..... it has >only come into the meaning of "to destroy totally" by *ahem* popular usage >(people using the word incorrectly - "commonly extended to include...") It's always a question as to what point common usage makes a formerly incorrect usage correct. Verily, some would opine that the usage of old shalt forever stand, and that new wordly inventions are not meet or seemly. Others would, like, dig on the new, phat talk, you know? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:53:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > Sorry Charlie...I have to agree with Guy on this one. The > *original* meaning is "killing every 10th person" or "to reduce by > 10 percent" ..... it has only come into the meaning of "to > destroy totally" by *ahem* popular usage (people using the word > incorrectly - "commonly extended to include...") Sorry Krammie (LOL).... "decimate v : kill in large numbers; "the plague wiped out an entire population" [syn: eliminate, annihilate, extinguish, eradicate, wipe out, carry off] Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University" How many sources do I have to show since two isn't sufficient? There is a big difference between the original meaning and the current meaning. And, yes, erroneous usage does end up changing the meaning. That's what dictionaries are all about, eh? "Has only come to mean ... by popular usage." Right. There you go! And grammar changes, too! 'Real' is now, apparently, a full-blown adverb. Well, slap me silly! No it ain't! And I'll resist (as the two of you are) but that won't change a durned thing... The French have the Academy in an attempt to circumvent natural changes in language and usage... It's only somewhat successful... But, if we're speaking of things that you'd like Kerry, as our all- powerful-being-designate, to change, hey, you can ask for anything you want. He may or may not grant your wish. If you can come up with a good case... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 20:59:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 20:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Yo! Da funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Heidi! > "Charles" wrote >> And, say, did you catch the one a week or two ago on dog >> obedience training? Talk about funny... > **the man getting smacked in with a newspaper for drinking a > martini, or another one? Another, last week or so... Hmm... It's not easy searching... Grr... Found it! => > I was actually thinking of trying my > dog's "zap" collar every time I reached for something other than a > grapefruit....that'd change my behavior right quick, I think... ;) Well, uh, hmm. So, do we need someone else to hold the zapper button? I mean, I'm trying to understand -how- we could implement the idea... Maybe you could pay some sadist to watch you? Ha! Maybe you could find one who would pay you for the privilege! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:07:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:07:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spell Checker References: Message-ID: My boss loved it! He has a love/hate relationship with his computer. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:06:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:06:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1ug63$arm$1@news.spamcop.net... > In news:Xns931A9990AD43Dcharles@216.154.195.60, > > Sorry Charlie...I have to agree with Guy on this one. The *original* meaning > is "killing every 10th person" or "to reduce by 10 percent" ..... it has > only come into the meaning of "to destroy totally" by *ahem* popular usage > (people using the word incorrectly - "commonly extended to include...") > My pocket OED lists 'to destroy one-tenth of', first, and *informal* 'destory a large proportion of' second. I guess it depends on your dictionary and edition of choice, for which comes first. As for the original meaning, and the history of the development of the word, perhaps Antoine would like to share his opinion? :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:17:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 21:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > It's always a question as to what point common usage makes a > formerly incorrect usage correct. Verily, some would opine that > the usage of old shalt forever stand, and that new wordly > inventions are not meet or seemly. Others would, like, dig on the > new, phat talk, you know? Yeah, well, some might opine that 'n' all, but, you know, I think that it's a bit late for decimate... When it is still considered incorrect it will have a different tag in the dictionary. Sometimes it will be colloquial, sometimes it will be as for 'real': "adv. Informal Very: I'm real sorry about that." Now, let's take it to the (the? my? an?) authority (the OED)... "4. transf. [...] b. rhetorically or loosely. To destroy or remove a large proportion of; to subject to a severe loss, slaughter, or mortality. As in Spencer (from 1663) : The ... Lord ... sometimes decimates a multitude of offenders and discovers in the personal sufferings of a few what all deserve." Spencer seems pretty literary to me. And it sure looks like it's been used loosely for quite some time. Yes, I will grant you that this particular reference holds closer to the 10% rule than current use does however he writes of a multitude of sufferers... Anyway, how many words maintain an exact meaning/spelling over 340 years? Neil wrote: > My pocket OED lists 'to destroy one-tenth of', first, and > *informal* 'destory a large proportion of' second. I guess it > depends on your dictionary and edition of choice, for which comes > first. > As for the original meaning, and the history of the development of > the word, perhaps Antoine would like to share his opinion? I cited the OED and not the Compact OED and you can see that it is not an exact definition, but it is better (more of a definition) than 'informal'. What edition do you have? And then, modern usage comes from the French decimer (circa 16th century). So it was used 'incorrectly' pretty shortly after having been created... c: From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:38:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:38:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931AA5BD856Acharles@216.154.195.60... > > Neil wrote: > > > > My pocket OED lists 'to destroy one-tenth of', first, and > > *informal* 'destory a large proportion of' second. I guess it > > depends on your dictionary and edition of choice, for which comes > > first. > > > As for the original meaning, and the history of the development of > > the word, perhaps Antoine would like to share his opinion? > > I cited the OED and not the Compact OED and you can see that it is > not an exact definition, but it is better (more of a definition) than > 'informal'. What edition do you have? > > And then, modern usage comes from the French decimer (circa 16th > century). So it was used 'incorrectly' pretty shortly after having > been created... > > c: > Actually, I have the OED Minidictionary. Not sure if there really are compact, mini, and pocket versions. Anyway, I have the fifth edition, published in 1999. Neil. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:37:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:37:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECB7E.CDFCD721@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42D589.C9AB57F9@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > I have no idea. I enjoyed his music and say him perform once (just before > he died). > > Managed to score front row stage center seats. (Don't ask -- suffice to say > it was *politics*) Must of been some politics. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:35:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:35:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: Message-ID: <3E42D53B.23565559@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > Urgent assistance - from USA > For a minute there I thought it was you that was in need for assistance. (Scared me there for a while, colonel.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:40:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:40:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E37324B.B45F0FCE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383CFD.5C8F4C0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EA0F.BA2ECD64@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42D631.10C43575@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote: > > Speaking of "assimilating", maybe it'll take them a little time to "digest" > Hong Kong and -- what was the other one? Macau? > > Tony. Hong Kong was a bit tough for them to swallow. Particularly since the people there don't have as much as they once did while under British rule. (From what I gathered, the Chinese government have removed the English classes and replaced it with Mandarin classes. Kind of screwy since that Mandarin is a watered down version of Cantonese.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:44:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:44:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <1044235508.358650@ursine.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <3E42D730.6CCAB11A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > | > Seems the FBI and local cops did a raid on someone who was collecting > | > shuttle debris. > | > | I'm trying to imagine what sort of crackpot would do that... > > There have been cases where people have stolen toys from charities just > before the holidays. In one case someone robbed a food bank and because > they could not carry off all the frozen meat they unplugged the freezers. What some poeple will steal.. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:44:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:44:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: In news:b1uiq0$dgn$1@news.spamcop.net, Neil said something that sounded like: | My pocket OED lists 'to destroy one-tenth of', first, and *informal* | 'destory a large proportion of' second. I guess it depends on your | dictionary and edition of choice, for which comes first. | | As for the original meaning, and the history of the development of | the word, perhaps Antoine would like to share his opinion? Well - Tony always has the last word on etymology :) - but here is my argument http://www.nd.edu/~archives/latin.htm decimare decim.are V 1 1 PRES ACTIVE INF 0 X decim.are V 1 1 PRES PASSIVE IND 2 S Early decim.are V 1 1 PRES PASSIVE IMP 2 S decimo, decimare, decimavi, decimatus V TRANS lesser choose by lot every tenth man (for punishment); make tithe offering (to a god) Syncope r => v.r Syncopated perfect often drops the 'v' and contracts vowel decimav.ere V 1 1 PERF ACTIVE IND 3 P decimo, decimare, decimavi, decimatus V TRANS lesser choose by lot every tenth man (for punishment); make tithe offering (to a god) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:42:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:42:43 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3C40BE.A0133F6A@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB2EC.C41E0367@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42D6D3.B6761A26@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Redstone" wrote in message > news:3E3DB2EC.C41E0367@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > He was quite a character, wasn't he? :-) (His methods for investigating > > the Challenger disaster was required reading for an ethics course I took > > for engineers. Fascinating to say the least.) > > Indeed he was. He had a unique way of looking at the world, even simple > things like birds and trees. He truly was a genius and it's a shame he died > so young (relatively speaking). Almost seems like he was a poet first.. physicist second. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:46:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:46:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC370.E54A10C7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42D79C.EAEBA1F7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > When you live in the swamp at least half the place is up wind. > > Come to think of it.. you are right. (Thinking about the swamps in Orlando.. stinky places. :-p) > BTW do you know what a coon ass is? > > > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > < > that brown spot under a coon's tail. But do I get my own logo at least? :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:49:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:49:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F614A.48A5EF4E@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E42D86E.BB158A92@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Redstone wrote: > > > Tonight or last night? > > Depends on when you read this - if you're reading it tonight, then it was last > night. If you read this tomorrow, then it was night-before-last. :-) > > The show won its time period handily, but a lot of that can be chalked up to > curiosity factor (the promos would make *me* want to watch at least the > premiere, and it takes a fair amount to impress me). Now whether the audience > comes back for more (and more importantly, if the buzz gets even more people > to watch) is the real test - it'll be interesting to see if this one "has > legs". > > I'm kinda-sorta trying to see if my taste (no comments, please...) is anywhere > in tune with that great mythical Middle America. Sometimes I'm right (I've > managed to call the last few Presidential elections right), but I've also been > w-a-y wrong enough not to quit my day job and become a prognosticator. :-) > > -- > Shoot.. I missed it then. I'll wait and see if there is an encore presentation or until the next episode. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:48:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:48:31 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: GregR's NASDAQ References: <3E3DCF9C.625501EF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F66EE.F0883BE1@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E42D82F.7BB0325F@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Redstone wrote: > > > [good lines] > > Comedy futures were laughing all the way to the bank... :-) > > LOL - Now you've done it... Before, half of my writing staff was merely > depressed after nobody got that "Bondage" joke. Now most of them have > lost the will to joke entirely. I've locked up the scissors and other > pointy objects. > > OTOH, interested in a writing job? :-) > > -- As long as it is not for Jerry Springer. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:52:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:52:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42D91D.69B86A29@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Borgholio wrote: > > > That's assuming they still use the shuttle. There are several "space plane" > projects currently in production....most of them involve solid metal skins > without the need for protective tiles. One or two of them are even designed > to take-off and land horzontally, as conventional aircraft do. May not even be metal.. they might go with thermal plastics instead. (Watch for NOVA on PBS, they have an interesting show about the contest that went on between Boeing and Lockheed-Martin regarding the next generation of fighter craft. Boeing's aircraft used thermal plastics as body panels.. really fascinating.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 21:50:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 16:50:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F6177.BAA45DD4@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E42D899.5D636C5E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > > > > Car? What Car? I've been blinded by the moon.. (two moons actually.) :-) > > What he said... :-) > > - And you know that is dangerous to show on California state highways. (With cars doing nearly 100.) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 22:03:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:03:19 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E42DBA7.125DBFE3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> indigo wrote: > > > Or not let any shuttle launch without a robot arm. One of the crew had done > a study last year (the irony) of doing just such an inspection of the belly > without an arm to lift him there. Conclusion: It would take more time than > they carry oxygen for, and that was just to get there and come back, let > alone actually attempt any kind of repair. > > Not even have an airhose that goes along the same line with a tether to provide some extra air? > > The "fix", IMHO, is for 1) keeping the foam/ice from falling off the main > tank in the first place (if that's what caused the damage), and 2) actually > get the "flying camera" being looked at for the ISS into production, so if > there's any fears of tile damage the crew can look for it, and at least has > the chance to abandon ship at the ISS. For all we know a relatively small > micro-meteriorite or piece of space junk skimmed/bounced/struck the shuttle > and tore up some tiles. Wouldn't surprise me a bit, and nobody onboard would > notice it even happened. > > The investigations seems to be trailing away from the foam as the root cause. (However it is to note that the foam composition have changed from its original.. but that may not mean much. Additionally, the onboard sensors register something strange if the damage occured sometime during lift off?) It appears they are moving toward a case of space junk slamming into the wing (unnoticed) before landing. > As far as how long it will be until we fly again......it has to be within a > year or so. Russia only has enough rockets to keep the ISS supplied for > another year (it will take 2 years to start up the production line again), > and if we have to abandon it the ISS it will fall apart. More than half of > the ISS crew's time is taken up doing maintenance. > > Plus it looks like it costs more for using the Russian rockets to boost supplies and equipment up there anyways. (Mentioned that each Soyuz/Progress rocket can ferry up 3 tons of payload, where the shuttle can do 30 tons of payload and get to its destination faster.) > Space flight is, and always will be, inherently risky, regardless of how > safe we try to make it. All we can do is raise the odds a bit....... It will never be 100% safe.. the costs would bankrupt any entity. The best one can do is to minimize the risks by making practical changes. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 22:07:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:07:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Jump the Shark. Message-ID: <3E42DC88.2F1089C8@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> http://www.jumptheshark.com/ Check out to see if your special TV show (or shows past) have jumped the shark (or when) The comments for "Joker's Wild" was pretty amusing "Joker........Joker........a used tire!" "Joker! Joker! Maps of States!" "Joker...Joker...tree diseases." "Joker, joker...emphysema!" "Joker!... Joker!... a gay Marine in a pink miniskirt!!!" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 22:17:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:17:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We've lost another shuttle References: <20030131212351.06007.00000495@mb-fv.aol.com> <20030201094949.00499.00000248@mb-fp.aol.com> <3E3D96DC.A1E3F5AB@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3DB714.A1BCBAE5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8B4.301FB70C@spamcop.net> <3E3DBC04.23FEC564@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECD27.C6C960A4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42DBA7.125DBFE3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E42DBA7.125DBFE3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > Not even have an airhose that goes along the same line with a tether to provide > some extra air? What airhose? No such thing, and even if there was you'd need a pressurized tank feeding it to compensate for pressure drops, on top of that the breathing system is all intertwined with the life support system (it is *not* like a scuba tank). It > appears they are moving toward a case of space junk slamming into the wing > (unnoticed) before landing. > And you heard it here first ;-) > > It will never be 100% safe.. the costs would bankrupt any entity. The best one > can do is to minimize the risks by making practical changes. > No amount of money on earth could make _any_ vehicle 100% safe, let alone a space shuttle. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Thu Feb 6 23:01:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 16:01:15 -0700 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Does it really help? References: Message-ID: Yep, it sure does. Just this morning I was getting bombarded by this one guy on about 6 different email addresses, some of them were nonexistant. I religiously reported them and decided to visit the guys web site. He was selling some "instant" web businesses. About 10 seconds after I visited I got a message that the account had been suspended and to contact support..... It happened about an hour after I got his first email. He must have been teeing off a few people.... "Brian Tillman" wrote in message news:b1rq5s$c5d$1@news.spamcop.net... > Religiously I report SPAM I receive through Spamcop. I wonder, though, if > it really helps. It sure doesn't seem to. Network providers like Genuity, > Verio, and others seem to be selling bandwidth to SPAMmers as fast as their > cash registers can take in the money. > -- > Brian Tillman Internet: Brian.Tillman at smiths-aerospace dot com > Smiths Aerospace Addresses modified to prevent SPAM. > 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS Replace "at" with "@", "dot" with "." > Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991 > This opinion doesn't represent that of my company > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 04:26:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 22:26:36 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OT] Recurring Pop-up References: <4RliKMJwWLiH@eisner.encompasserve.org> <3E41F5EA.2F9E7772@spamcop.net> <3E432069.137E6AF4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E43357B.5E462A9C@spamcop.net> (follow-ups set to .social) Anon wrote: > > I do not know about the free version, but I think that the pay (around $30 I > think) should work on a network. > > I plan to network my and my wife's computer so I will find out for myself. > > I am pretty sure that the free one will probably work on a LAN. > > Re: being down - have you tried dialing up from your computer when hers is > down? May be slow but slow is better than zero. Mine doesn't have the direct DSL connection on it since I'm just networked into her computer. Normally if hers goes down, it's only temporary, so I usually don't have a problem. On the rare occasion it has been down for a few hours though, I used the back-up dial-up method. That's really only happened maybe a couple of times, so we're pretty much happy with our DSL. She has the network hub on her computer and stuff with the ethernet cable running from her computer into my room to my computer. > ps Been using ZA for several years now and have had very few problems caused > by it. Be aware that the initial setup is a pain as you must tell ZA whether > each and every app that tries to access the net (and stuff that tries to > contact you) should be allowed (this one time or always) or not allowed > (this one time or always). After you go through this routine one time for > everything - everything is automatic thereafter. Cool, thanks for the info. =) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:11:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:11:00 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b1u0pt$sbd$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Well, I know that trusting in God will not keep you from illness, but [...] Illness / invalidity insurance works here in a manner totally different than in the States. (Most people have it and the tariffs are fixed by law.) Is it better or worse? I don't know. > > Is mortality a blessing? Or is it something to overcome, like smallpox? I'd say it's a fact of life. Tony. > Like it or not we are faced with more and more "godlike" decisions > everyday. > > Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:32:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:32:19 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC370.E54A10C7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D79C.EAEBA1F7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > that brown spot under a coon's tail. | | But do I get my own logo at least? :-) | there is one showing the rear view of 'coon over laid on the RCA logo of the past. I'll see if I can find it on line and post the link. BTW do you know why coon a**es make better lovers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They'll eat anything .... that won't eat them first. (and a few things that will) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:27:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:27:21 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECB7E.CDFCD721@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D589.C9AB57F9@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | > Managed to score front row stage center seats. (Don't ask -- suffice to say | > it was *politics*) | | Must of been some politics. :-) It would have been easier to kill someone and get off than it was to get those tickets. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:41:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:41:11 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: | Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean | "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." | Has a more sinister connotation: Comes from the time of the Roman Legions when an army performed poorly they would like up the troops and every 10th man was killed. Hence the statement the army/ troops/ they) were decimated. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:25:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:25:07 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E42D53B.23565559@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | Frog Prince wrote: | | > Urgent assistance - from USA | > | | For a minute there I thought it was you that was in need for assistance. | (Scared me there for a while, colonel.) :-) I *could* use some mental help but this is definitely *NOT* the place to be looking From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:36:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 00:36:51 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: | > The phrase 'At the end of the day', used to mean 'the end result.' | > | That's a very British expression though, I don't hear it much here, but I | hear it all the time on BBCA, sort of like saying 'when all is said and | done'. I think the corollary is 'there will be more said than done'. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 06:57:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 07:57:18 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: "Neil" a écrit dans le message de news: b1uiq0$dgn$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > As for the original meaning, and the history of the development of the > word, perhaps Antoine would like to share his opinion? > > :-) So I'm an authority on English now? That's real front-page news! I think I'll have to decline though. As a native French speaker, I don't feel entitled to an opinion about English, so I avail myself of the opinions of people which I regard as more competent than me about the matter; in this case the writers of the New Oxford Dictionary of English (2nd ed. 2001): *decimate* /'desimeit/ |> *verb* [with obj.] (often *be decimated*) *1* kill, destroy a large proportion of: /the inhabitants of the country had been decimated./ o drastically reduce the strength or effectiveness of (something): /public transport has been decimated./ *2* .historical. kill one in every ten of (a group of people) as a punishment for the whole group. -derivatives- *decimation* noun, *decimator* noun. -origin- late Middle English: from Latin /decimat-/ 'taken as a tenth' from the verb /decimare/, from /decimus/ 'tenth'. In Middle English the term /decimation/ denoted the levying of a tithe, and later the tax imposed by Cromwell on the Royalists [1655]. The verb /decimate/ originally alluded to the Roman punishment of executing one man in ten of a mutinous legion. #usage# Historically, the meaning of the word *decimate* is 'kill one in every ten of (a group of people)'. This sense has been more or less totally superseded by the later, more general sense 'kill or destroy (a large proportion of)', as in /the virus has *decimated* the population/. Some traditionalists argue that this and other later senses are incorrect, but it is clear that this is now part of standard English. © Oxford University Press 1998, 2001 Oxford University Press, Great Clarendon St., Oxford OX2 6DP Published in the United States by Oxford University Press Inc., New York Published worldwide in Oxford New York Athens Auckland Bangkok Bogotá Buenos Aires Cape Town Chennai Dar es Salaam Delhi Florence Hong Kong Istanbul Karachi Kolkata Kuala Lumpur Madrid Melbourne Mexico City Mumbai Nairobi Paris São Paulo Shanghai Singapore Taipei Toronto Warsaw with associated companies in Berlin Ibadan Oxford is a registered trade mark of Oxford University Press in the UK and in certain other countries. Regards, Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 07:22:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:22:23 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E37324B.B45F0FCE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383CFD.5C8F4C0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EA0F.BA2ECD64@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D631.10C43575@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E42D631.10C43575@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com [...] > Hong Kong was a bit tough for them to swallow. Particularly since the > people there don't have as much as they once did while under British > rule. (From what I gathered, the Chinese government have removed the > English classes and replaced it with Mandarin classes. Kind of screwy > since that Mandarin is a watered down version of Cantonese.) IIUC it's a different language altogether, albeit a related one, like Italian compared with French. Of course, thanks to ideographic writing, written Mandarin is almost (though not totally) identical with written Cantonese. My grandfather told me that, as a judge, he once had to judge a Chinese, so he had a sworn interpreter brought in. And he discovered to his surprise that the interpreter and the accused could understand each other in writing, but not orally. (One of them spoke Mandarin aka Pekingese aka North Chinese, and the other Cantonese aka South Chinese.) Tony. P.S. Neither about Mandarin and Cantonese, nor French and Italian, shall I argue about which of them is or isn't a watered-down version of the other. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 07:57:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:57:01 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Charles" a écrit dans le message de news: Xns930C698DB1265charles@204.214.92.125 [...] > Well, yeah, but, right. Uh. I finish almost all books that I start > (like, I seem to remember 3 that I haven't finished). Of course, > that's one of them... Sheesh. I mean, I read 2/3 or so of the book > and nothing had happened yet. I _do_ have my limits! Proust was ok in > that regard because I only read one (ok, maybe 2) of them - and it was > far shorter than 2/3 of Ulysses! Oh, and things happened from time to > time! Seems you don't regard "À la recherche du temps perdu" as a single (albeit long-winded) story then? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 08:04:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:04:51 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "indigo" a écrit dans le message de news: b0s1g6$rb9$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > You're right, I guess it does get used about 3-4 times a day......not in a > pleasurable way, though...... You mean you caught the clap? I like the Frech expression better: "tu as attrapé la chaude-pisse?" or even better "tu pisses des lames de rasoir?" Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 09:51:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Guy Macon) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 01:51:44 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: >So I'm an authority on English now? That's real front-page news! I think >I'll have to decline though. As a native French speaker, Your English skills are better than those of many people who were born in the US. This reminds me of a joke: Q. If someone who speaks two languages is bilingual, and someone who speaks three languages is trilingual, what do you call someone who speaks one language? A. An American! Another: "In Paris they just simply opened their eyes and stared when we spoke to them in French! We never did succeed in making those idiots understand their own language." -Mark Twain From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 12:52:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:52:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Frydee funsies Message-ID: Sigh. You know, when it's not a funny day, you just take the best of what there is... [clueless] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/mb/2003/mb030207.gif [classic take on a classic] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2003/ft030207.gif [ommm] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030207.gif [you know, m goose and grimm is funny almost every day] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020703.gif [pets] http://dilbert.com/creators/naturalselection/archive/images/naturalsele ction20030146322131.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5hgr [my goodness... Decidedly the help desk has serious problems...] http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005227.gif From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 13:41:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Linda) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 08:41:48 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: Message-ID: <3E43B79C.B0B66E42@spamcop.net> Funny, I hadn't heard the word decimate used in ages, then on CSI last night it was used. Probably just caught my ear because of the discussion here (or hear ;-) ) Linda Frog Prince wrote: > | Another one that annoys me is the use of "decimate" to mean > | "utterly destroy." It means "reduce by 10%." > | From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 14:34:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:34:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1vpb4$9ct$1@news.spamcop.net... > "indigo" a écrit dans le message de news: > b0s1g6$rb9$1@news.spamcop.net > [...] > > You're right, I guess it does get used about 3-4 times a day......not in a > > pleasurable way, though...... > > You mean you caught the clap? I like the Frech expression better: "tu as > attrapé la chaude-pisse?" or even better "tu pisses des lames de rasoir?" > Heh. No. I drink about 1/2 gallon of water a day (good for the youthful skin and all that, you know, but not so successful at combating grey hair ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 16:20:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:20:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:b20g5v$mts$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heh. No. I drink about 1/2 gallon of water a day (good for the youthful skin > and all that, you know, but not so successful at combating grey hair ;-) > ***raises hand****....ahem...hairdresser with tools here... will travel.... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 16:32:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:32:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b20m82$s1t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:b20g5v$mts$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Heh. No. I drink about 1/2 gallon of water a day (good for the youthful > skin > > and all that, you know, but not so successful at combating grey hair ;-) > > > ***raises hand****....ahem...hairdresser with tools here... will travel.... > ;) > Real men don't dye their hair ;-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 16:35:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:35:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1vpb4$9ct$1@news.spamcop.net... > You mean you caught the clap? I like the Frech expression better: "tu as > attrapé la chaude-pisse?" or even better "tu pisses des lames de rasoir?" > **I actually understood that, but I went and translated it just to be sure.... "you pee razor blades" OW........ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 17:09:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:09:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:b20n26$sdo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Real men don't dye their hair ;-) > .....they just whine about it?? ;> From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 17:05:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:05:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tech support funnies Message-ID: Most computer users understand that you need an operating system to use a computer practically, even if it is not clear why. But many users don't. http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_os.shtml From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 17:11:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 12:11:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Frydee funsies References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931B5016C131Fcharles@216.154.195.60... > [my goodness... Decidedly the help desk has serious problems...] > http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005227.gif > ***LOL...this reminds me of The Office...which I finally saw last night. Hilarious in a sad, pathetic sort of way, sort of like the Royle Family..... 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. --1772874094.1044641799703.JavaMail.SYSTEM.emaserver2-- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 18:45:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:45:08 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b1tubh$qod$1@news.spamcop.net... > 'Twould be funny if it weren't pathetic. You mean if it weren't pathetically true! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 18:53:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:53:04 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1u5p8$1d6$1@news.spamcop.net... > ***ITYM someone *arrest* that man. He has the coldest shiftiest eyes I've > ever seen, (and yes, I base a lot on that, he is not a grieving man) and his > story doesn't wash. He never left till midday to go fishing at a spot that > was hours away, and they were supposed to be at her parents that night for > dinner - the timing never would have worked. I'm sure they're watching him > like a hawk trying to catch him out. He doesn't seem like the sharpest tool > in the shed either, trying to get rid of his entire life with her as if that > doesn't look suspicious....duh. > I doubt they'll ever see him again, since he's just gone off to Mexico. It's so improbable that anyone else is involved in this that it has to be him and his behaviour since has done nothing to sway my opinion that he's guilty as hell. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 18:50:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:50:06 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] So who watched the Michael Jackson documentary? Message-ID: The guy is obviously not normal as you or I would consider normal. My impression is that he's not totally honest (he lied about his facial surgery), he's borderline unbalanced and possibly a danger to his children, he's basically good at heart and he's not in touch with anything resembling reality as far as behaviour with children is concerned (sees nothing odd about sleeping 4 in a bed with young kids, didn't see the inherent danger in accompanying his children to a public zoo where they were almost crushed by a mob) or with how ordinary people live and behave. I think if his fortune ever dwindles to human proportions, he'll likely commit suicide. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 18:58:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:58:23 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F614A.48A5EF4E@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D86E.BB158A92@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E42D86E.BB158A92@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > Shoot.. I missed it then. I'll wait and see if there is an encore presentation or > until the next episode. I think Bravo is showing it, maybe tonight. Check your listings! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 19:01:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:01:50 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Frydee funsies References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b20p7r$udn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" wrote in message > news:Xns931B5016C131Fcharles@216.154.195.60... > > [my goodness... Decidedly the help desk has serious problems...] > > http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/03feb/uf005227.gif > > > ***LOL...this reminds me of The Office...which I finally saw last night. > Hilarious in a sad, pathetic sort of way, sort of like the Royle Family..... > Ah so you finally saw it. Last night's was a killer. That was so utterly pathetic where they lost the quiz and tried to 'win' by throwing the shoes over the building LOL. Kinda reminds me of teenage boys. Shame you missed last week's with Gareth's holster phone. They show part of it quite a bit in the promo's. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 19:15:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:15:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Frydee funsies References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b20vqt$3t6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Ah so you finally saw it. Last night's was a killer. That was so utterly > pathetic where they lost the quiz and tried to 'win' by throwing the shoes > over the building LOL. Kinda reminds me of teenage boys. Shame you missed > last week's with Gareth's holster phone. They show part of it quite a bit in > the promo's. > **I saw the promo for it, what a pathetic git he is, not to mention scary looking - what's with the dark circles around his eyes? I find the boss hilarious, bringing along young comics... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 19:17:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:17:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b20vaf$3da$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I doubt they'll ever see him again, since he's just gone off to Mexico. It's > so improbable that anyone else is involved in this that it has to be him and > his behaviour since has done nothing to sway my opinion that he's guilty as > hell. **I find it amazing that they allowed him to leave the country at all, even if he isn't charged, he's still a suspect, if he was going to do a runner it's a perfect opportunity. I hope he's being followed. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 19:24:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:24:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So who watched the Michael Jackson documentary? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:b20v4u$3ao$1@news.spamcop.net... > The guy is obviously not normal as you or I would consider normal. My > impression is that he's not totally honest (he lied about his facial > surgery), he's borderline unbalanced and possibly a danger to his children, > he's basically good at heart and he's not in touch with anything resembling > reality as far as behaviour with children is concerned (sees nothing odd > about sleeping 4 in a bed with young kids, didn't see the inherent danger in > accompanying his children to a public zoo where they were almost crushed by > a mob) or with how ordinary people live and behave. I think if his fortune > ever dwindles to human proportions, he'll likely commit suicide. > ***I missed it, but I saw enough on the news to get the idea - what a sad, pathetic, completely out of touch with realilty creature he is. I personally don't think he molests children, but that he has no concept of inappropriate behavior with children is very scary. He really is in his own little world. Watching him trying to feed the baby, jamming a bottle in his mouth with the scarf getting jammed in his mouth as well and the baby's crying the whole time, all while frantically jiggling the baby made me absolutely cringe. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 19:29:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:29:33 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: In news:b210jm$4jr$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi typed: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b20vaf$3da$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> I doubt they'll ever see him again, since he's just gone off to >> Mexico. It's so improbable that anyone else is involved in this that >> it has to be him and his behaviour since has done nothing to sway my >> opinion that he's guilty as hell. > > **I find it amazing that they allowed him to leave the country at > all, even if he isn't charged, he's still a suspect, if he was going > to do a runner it's a perfect opportunity. I hope he's being > followed. Sounds like a new plot for American Justice. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 22:18:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:18:12 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: American Idol References: Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1r2vf$oou$1@news.spamcop.net... > So we watched last night, and cast our votes. Couldn't decide between girl > 1 and girl 8 (forget the names), so we called and voted for both. > I watched it but didn't vote. I was surprised that the blonde girl didn't get through but there's always the wildcard option, assuming that nobody else in the other heats is any better. I thought Simon hit the nail on the head when he laid down the home truths (particularly in reference to the others wanting their competitors to do badly which is only logical). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 22:22:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:22:52 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b1r81p$s6l$1@news.spamcop.net... > YES I CAN HEAR YOU! NOW SHUT UP! That's Verizon. Sprint PCS has 100 daschunds instead of 100 oxen From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 22:24:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:24:41 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b1rvas$gfr$1@news.spamcop.net... > While I'm thinking about commercials, I'd do away with all the drug company > commercials if I were all powerful. > I had culture shock when I first came here to live as we don't have those sorts of ads in the UK at all. I was amazed. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 22:46:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:46:30 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Those Trying to Achieve Inner Peace! References: <3E44213E.AF3863DE@direcway.com> Message-ID: I'm passing this along to you, because it's definitely working for me. I think I have found inner peace. I recently read an article that said the best way to achieve inner peace is to FINISH things I had started. So, today I finished two large bags of potato chips, a chocolate pie, a fifth of Jack Daniel's, a small box of chocolate candy, and I slapped the living s*it out of everyone I never liked. I feel better already. Please pass this along to a friend who is in need of inner peace. OT We are going to whomp and stomp Saddam, just to achieve inner peace. Outer peace is the bonus. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:13:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 17:13:45 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: | > YES I CAN HEAR YOU! NOW SHUT UP! | | That's Verizon. Sprint PCS has 100 daschunds instead of 100 oxen Yea,, but that's just upper management. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:35:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:35:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Krispy Kreme Donut Eating Cat References: <34a3cdfa.0301271341.3e7e55d4@posting.google.com> <3E372EF2.319AC803@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383A42.C934DEE6@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39F07A.7DF09DA3@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3AEFB4.412FFCE7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3DB8D3.ABDC74D5@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3ECB7E.CDFCD721@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D589.C9AB57F9@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E4442AA.B913AB4F@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > It would have been easier to kill someone and get off than it was to get > those tickets. Hopefully you didn't have to pony up that much money. I know that the King brought in tons of fans even in his twilight years. (Not sure if you can call it really his twilight years tho.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:38:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:38:17 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: <3E37324B.B45F0FCE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E383CFD.5C8F4C0B@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E39EA0F.BA2ECD64@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D631.10C43575@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E444369.46C8EF0@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote: > > > IIUC it's a different language altogether, albeit a related one, like > Italian compared with French. Of course, thanks to ideographic writing, > written Mandarin is almost (though not totally) identical with written > Cantonese. My grandfather told me that, as a judge, he once had to judge a > Chinese, so he had a sworn interpreter brought in. And he discovered to his > surprise that the interpreter and the accused could understand each other in > writing, but not orally. (One of them spoke Mandarin aka Pekingese aka North > Chinese, and the other Cantonese aka South Chinese.) > > Tony. > > P.S. Neither about Mandarin and Cantonese, nor French and Italian, shall I > argue about which of them is or isn't a watered-down version of the other. Something that my fiance told me about the languages.. Cantonese have 8 different tones (accents) where Mandarin is only 4. (That was what I meant by watered down.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:42:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:42:59 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shuttle debris on Ebay References: <3E3DB866.5488C335@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3EC370.E54A10C7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E42D79C.EAEBA1F7@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E444483.3EC631BF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > there is one showing the rear view of 'coon over laid on the RCA logo of the > past. I'll see if I can find it on line and post the link. > > That would be interesting. :-) > BTW do you know why coon a**es make better lovers? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They'll eat anything .... that won't eat them first. (and a few things that > will) I don't know about that.. I won't go near fried tofu. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:44:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:44:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F614A.48A5EF4E@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D86E.BB158A92@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E4444CD.BBE090BF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > I think Bravo is showing it, maybe tonight. Check your listings! I have no cable. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:40:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:40:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E4443DE.83727B7D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:b20n26$sdo$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Real men don't dye their hair ;-) > > > .....they just whine about it?? ;> They use magic markers. Works like a charm. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:46:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:46:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] news.spamcop.net References: Message-ID: <3E444570.98DF78E4@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Not stupid trafficmagnet again.. Geez.. stay dead please. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:45:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:45:20 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E42D53B.23565559@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E444510.B6846A99@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > > > I *could* use some mental help but this is definitely *NOT* the place to be > looking You are right.. this is not the place. (An area of peace and quiet is definite prerequisite, IMO.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:51:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:51:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So who watched the Michael Jackson documentary? References: Message-ID: <3E444691.39D83D91@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:b20v4u$3ao$1@news.spamcop.net... > > The guy is obviously not normal as you or I would consider normal. My > > impression is that he's not totally honest (he lied about his facial > > surgery), he's borderline unbalanced and possibly a danger to his > children, > > he's basically good at heart and he's not in touch with anything > resembling > > reality as far as behaviour with children is concerned (sees nothing odd > > about sleeping 4 in a bed with young kids, didn't see the inherent danger > in > > accompanying his children to a public zoo where they were almost crushed > by > > a mob) or with how ordinary people live and behave. I think if his fortune > > ever dwindles to human proportions, he'll likely commit suicide. > > > ***I missed it, but I saw enough on the news to get the idea - what a sad, > pathetic, completely out of touch with realilty creature he is. I > personally don't think he molests children, but that he has no concept of > inappropriate behavior with children is very scary. He really is in his own > little world. Watching him trying to feed the baby, jamming a bottle in his > mouth with the scarf getting jammed in his mouth as well and the baby's > crying the whole time, all while frantically jiggling the baby made me > absolutely cringe. That baby was nearly strangled by that stupid viel. All this crap he is doing is to sustain his vanity. He knows his popularity is royally slipping and is doing whatever it takes to grab on to it. "Oh.. I only had 2 nose jobs".. Highly unlikely since his whole face looks like it was smashed with a shovel. Nuts.. pure nuts. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:53:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 18:53:43 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Those Trying to Achieve Inner Peace! References: <3E44213E.AF3863DE@direcway.com> Message-ID: <3E444707.C31C1E81@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > I'm passing this along to you, because it's definitely working for me. > > I think I have found inner peace. I recently read an article that said the > best way to achieve inner peace is to FINISH things I had started. > > So, today I finished two large bags of potato chips, a chocolate pie, a > fifth of Jack Daniel's, a small box of chocolate candy, and I slapped the > living s*it out of everyone I never liked. > > I feel better already. > > Please pass this along to a friend who is in need of inner peace. > > OT We are going to whomp and stomp Saddam, just to achieve inner peace. > Outer peace is the bonus. I can dig it. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:49:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:49:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E4443DE.83727B7D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E4443DE.83727B7D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > They use magic markers. Works like a charm. :-) > ***Really? What color do you use?? Let me guess.... PURPLE? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:49:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:49:58 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Those Trying to Achieve Inner Peace! References: <3E44213E.AF3863DE@direcway.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b21e4m$fom$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm passing this along to you, because it's definitely working for me. > > I think I have found inner peace. I recently read an article that said the > best way to achieve inner peace is to FINISH things I had started. > > So, today I finished two large bags of potato chips, a chocolate pie, a > fifth of Jack Daniel's, a small box of chocolate candy, and I slapped the > living s*it out of everyone I never liked. > > I feel better already. > ***YEAH BABY!!!!!! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:51:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:51:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So who watched the Michael Jackson documentary? References: <3E444691.39D83D91@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E444691.39D83D91@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > That baby was nearly strangled by that stupid viel. **Yes, and the frantic shaking and telling the baby "I love you" in a frenzied way was really weird.....heebed me out. > > All this crap he is doing is to sustain his vanity. He knows his popularity is > royally slipping and is doing whatever it takes to grab on to it. > > "Oh.. I only had 2 nose jobs".. Highly unlikely since his whole face looks like > it was smashed with a shovel. > **How then does he explain his chin? That sure isn't the same..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:48:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:48:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Clara Harris - who could blame her? Message-ID: My god, this infuriates me - that skank of a husband, after the cheating had been discovered, sat his wife down in a bar one night and starting giving her a laundry list of reasons why his lover was better than she was - actually comparing them like he was shopping for a car. I would have whacked him right then.. ;> From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Fri Feb 7 23:56:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 18:56:02 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Clara Harris - who could blame her? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b21hjr$j79$1@news.spamcop.net... Sorry...forgot the link: http://makeashorterlink.com/?V2D132363 From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 01:42:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:42:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] What is your medieval personality. Message-ID: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html Fun little personality test that'll determine how you would fit in the medieval society. (Note: the site asks you for your name and occupation as required to continue with the test. No biggie since you can put in any old name and occupation.) My results came out as: Prime Minister: Your distinct personality, The Prime Minister might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. You are a strategist who pursues the most efficient and logical path toward the realization of the goal that you perceive or visualize. You will often only associate with those people who can assist you in the implementation of your plan. Inept assistants may be immediately discarded as excess baggage. To do otherwise could be seen as inefficient and illogical. On the positive side, you can be rationally idealistic and analytically ideological. You can be a bold decision maker and risk taker who can move society ahead by years instead of minutes. On the negative side, you may be unmerciful, impatient, arrogant, impetuous and impulsive. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 02:04:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:04:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: In news:3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com, Redstone typed: > http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html > > Fun little personality test that'll determine how you would fit in the > medieval society. > > (Note: the site asks you for your name and occupation as required to > continue with the test. No biggie since you can put in any old name > and occupation.) My results came out as: The Benevolent Ruler Your distinct personality, The Benevolent Ruler might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. You are the idealistic social dreamer. Your overriding goal is to solve the people problems of your world. You are a social reformer who wants everyone to be happy in a world that you can visualize. You are exceptionally perceptive about the woes and needs of humankind. You often have the understanding and skill to readily conceive and implement the solutions to your perceptions. On the positive side, you are creatively persuasive, charismatic and ideologically concerned. On the negative side, you may be unrealistically sentimental, scattered and impulsive, as well as deviously manipulative. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 04:14:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 23:14:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b21oje$or1$1@news.spamcop.net... > In news:3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com, Redstone typed: > > http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html > > > > Fun little personality test that'll determine how you would fit in the > > medieval society. > > > > > I am... Your distinct personality, The Shepherd is to tend to your human flock. You understand the needs of those for whom you are responsible. Shepherds are vigilant and reliable. You realize your obligation and commitment to the well being of those entrusted to your care. Shepherds are very dependable. You engender a feeling of comfort and stability to those within your charge. On the positive side, Shepherds can be empathic, caring, understanding, practical and realistic. On the negative side, you may be manipulative, close-minded and sentimentally rigid. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. Hmmm...... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 04:51:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (John E. Malmberg) Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 23:51:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. In-Reply-To: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html > > Fun little personality test that'll determine how you would fit in the > medieval society. > > My results came out as: > > Prime Minister: > > Your distinct personality, The Prime Minister might be found in most > of the thriving kingdoms of the time. You are a strategist who pursues > the most efficient and logical path toward the realization of the goal > that you perceive or visualize. You will often only associate with > those people who can assist you in the implementation of your plan. > Inept assistants may be immediately discarded as excess baggage. High risk profession in medieval society. The competition for that position is murder. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 05:14:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (John E. Malmberg) Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 00:14:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tech support funnies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: YK wrote: > Most computer users understand that you need an operating system to use a > computer practically, even if it is not clear why. But many users don't. > > http://rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_os.shtml Some support people do not understand things either. http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~bern/VAXwar/War1.html -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 06:18:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 00:18:44 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, here's how to say "I Love You" in 18 Languages.... English . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. . I Love You Spanish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Te Amo French . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Je T'aime German . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .lch Liebe Dich Japanese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ai Shite Imasu Italian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ti Amo Chinese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wo Ai Ni Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, Mississippi, West Virginia, Texas, Kentucky and most campuses . ... . . . . . . . . . Nice Ass From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 06:48:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 07:48:51 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com > http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html [...] Oh, shit. If ever I expected that! Tony. Your distinct personality, The Bishop is to impose your own order upon the chaos that you find. Your most valuable talent is in giving ideas a reality base and in making the unreal seem real. On the positive side, you can be imaginative, realistic and idealistically pragmatic. On the negative side, Bishops may be devious, short-sighted and rigidly impractical. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 06:54:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 07:54:24 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" skrev i meddelandet news:b228ii$3g1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, here's > how to say "I Love You" in 18 > Languages.... > > > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar > > Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, > North Carolina, South Carolina, > Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, > Mississippi, West Virginia, > Texas, Kentucky and most campuses > . ... . . . . . . . . . Nice Ass > In Swedish we say: 'Jag älskar dig' - if you don't add 'dig' (pronounced DAY) it only means 'I love'.... Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 06:55:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 07:55:55 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" a écrit dans le message de news: b228ii$3g1$1@news.spamcop.net > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, > here's how to say "I Love You" in 18 > Languages.... > > English . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. . I Love You > > Spanish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Te Amo > > French . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Je T'aime > > German . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .lch Liebe Dich > > Japanese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ai Shite Imasu > > Italian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ti Amo > > Chinese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wo Ai Ni > > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar Dutch: Ik hou van jou. Russian: Ya tebya lyublyu. Esperanto: Mi amas vin. Tony. > > Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, > North Carolina, South Carolina, > Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, > Mississippi, West Virginia, > Texas, Kentucky and most campuses > . ... . . . . . . . . . Nice Ass From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 06:59:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 00:59:51 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: | > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, | here's | > how to say "I Love You" in 18 | > Languages.... | > | | > | > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar | > | > Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, | > North Carolina, South Carolina, | > Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, | > Mississippi, West Virginia, | > Texas, Kentucky and most campuses | > . ... . . . . . . . . . Nice Ass | > | | In Swedish we say: 'Jag älskar dig' - if you don't add 'dig' (pronounced | DAY) it only means 'I love'.... Gee, to this old (southern) country boy seems Nice Ass has it amply covered (ducking and running) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 07:04:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 01:04:01 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: | On the negative side, Bishops may be devious, short-sighted and rigidly impractical. Seems to describe a number of modern catholic clergy ... Ex-Cardinal Law comes to mind. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 07:33:35 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 08:33:35 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" skrev i meddelandet news:b229lq$42j$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Frog Prince" a écrit dans le message de news: > b228ii$3g1$1@news.spamcop.net > > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, > > here's how to say "I Love You" in 18 > > Languages.... > > > > English . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. . I Love You > > > > Spanish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Te Amo > > > > French . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Je T'aime > > > > German . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .lch Liebe Dich > > > > Japanese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ai Shite Imasu > > > > Italian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ti Amo > > > > Chinese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wo Ai Ni > > > > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar > > Dutch: Ik hou van jou. > > Russian: Ya tebya lyublyu. > > Esperanto: Mi amas vin. > > Tony. > > Greek: sagapo Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 12:45:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Peter Jensen) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:45:07 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > My results came out as: > > Prime Minister: Me too! I'm not sure what I screwed up in the test, because I don't feel that I have any leadership skills at all, nor do I want them. I prefer if people would just give me a rough estimate of what they want done, and leave the actual work to me. Management has *very* little appeal to me ... -- PeKaJe From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 13:28:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:28:58 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Peter Jensen" a écrit dans le message de news: b22u4k$ego$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > I'm not sure what I screwed up in the test, [...] > Management has *very* little appeal to me > ... > -- > PeKaJe Well, the clergy has no appeal at all to me. Must be the test that's screwed-up. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sat Feb 8 13:36:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Morning comics... Message-ID: [kid funny] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/jm/2003/jm030208.gif [he he he, ha ha ha, ho ho ho - well, you have been writing of this in another thread...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2003/ft030208.gif [popups] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/co/2003/co030208.gif [very punny - ha ha (sigh)] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030208.gif ['nuther kid funny] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmbou/2003/tmbou030208.gif From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 07:50:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 01:50:55 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social Message-ID: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded to his web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's kind of twisted but funny as hell. http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 08:12:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Cat wrote: > Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded to his > web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's kind of > twisted but funny as hell. > > http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ P.S. Make sure your sound is on for this. It adds to the whole thing. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 13:14:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 13:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] SUndaY pHunnIEs Message-ID: [LOTR] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/hc/2003/hc030209.gif [v-day] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ft/2003/ft030209.gif [superstitions] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/dp/2003/dp030209.gif [men] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030209.gif [Grimmy is funny more days than not, don't you think] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg020903.gif [Rose isn't the only one with an alter ego...] http://dilbert.com/comics/roseisrose/archive/images/roseisrose200302052 2589.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5kcu From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 17:04:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:04:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: The Ultimate Easy Quiz References: Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 11:18:52 -0500, kram wrote: > In news:pan.2003.02.04.12.48.22.303835@sneakemail.com, > > Mr K. Mean said something that sounded like: > > | Well, that's true. That has usually been my answer to the question. And > | I'll be in Manhattan tonight, so for a few days, it really will be the > | center of the universe. I'm sure it will enjoy being the actual center > | for a bit. > > Ah, but it is _already_ the center of the universe. I am sitting here, > aren't I? But this evening New Jersey will be the center of the universe. > > What did Heinlein call this stuff???? > > > Right..... "multiperson pantheistic solipsism" - we are all correct in > thinking that we are the center of the universe because we are all > figments of someone else's imagination ......no paradox at all :) -- Ok, after being in Manhattan for a few days, I discovered something. It wasn't the center of the universe, even when I was there. My heart just wasn't there. It isn't where you are, it is where you want to be. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 17:48:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Blitz) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:48:02 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] New York Times Article on Spam Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/5kmx Tangled Up in Spam By JAMES GLEICK I know what your in-box looks like, and it isn't pretty. It looks like mine: a babble of come-ons and lies from hucksters and con artists. To find your real e-mail, you must wade through the torrent of fraud and obscenity known politely as ''unsolicited bulk e-mail'' and colloquially as spam. In a perverse tribute to the power of the online revolution, we are all suddenly getting the same mail. The spam epidemic has just a few themes and variations: phone cards, cable descramblers, vacation prizes. Easy credit, easy weight loss, free vacations, free Girlz. Inkjet cartridges and black-market Viagra, get-rich-quick schemes and every possible form of pornography. The crush of these messages on the world's networks is now numbered in billions per day. One anti-spam service measured more than five million unique spam attacks in December, almost three times as many as a year earlier. The well is poisoned. Spam is not just a nuisance. It absorbs bandwidth and overwhelms Internet service providers. Corporate tech staffs labor to deploy filtering technology to protect their networks. The cost is now widely estimated (though all such estimates are largely guesswork) at billions of dollars a year. The social costs are immeasurable: people fear participating in the collective life of the Internet, they withdraw or they learn to conceal their e-mail addresses, identifying themselves as user@domain.invalid or someone@nospam.com. The signal-to-noise ratio nears zero, and trust is destroyed. ''Spam has become the organized crime of the Internet,'' said Barry Shein, president of the World, one of the original Internet service providers. ''Most people see it as a private mailbox problem. But more and more it's becoming a systems and engineering and networking problem.'' He told the 2003 Spam Conference in Cambridge, Mass., last month that his service is sometimes pounded by the same spam from 200 computer systems simultaneously. ''It's depressing. It's more depressing than you think. Spammers are gaining control of the Internet.'' If your own experience doesn't seem this bad, just wait. You may be a recent convert to e-mail; your address may not yet have percolated through the deep swamp of spammer databases (truly a land of no return). Quantity matters, psychologically. If five daily spams seem merely annoying, 20 or 30 will be maddening, creepy -- and chilling. Some avid Internet users report a hundred or more a day. The harvesting of e-mail addresses by spammers is relentless and swift. Investigators for the Federal Trade Commission recently posted some freshly minted e-mail addresses in chat rooms and news groups to see what would happen; in one case, the first spam came in nine minutes. Addresses are sold and resold on CD-ROM's in batches of millions. If you have ever revealed your e-mail address in a public forum, or allowed it to appear on a Web page, or used it in buying merchandise online, your experience of the online world is sure to sound like this: ''Looking for love?'' ''$900 weekly at home.'' ''Fwd: Your winning lottery ticket.'' ''Biggee your penis 3 inches in 22 days.'' ''Have you received your cash?'' ''Hard core so intense it's sinful.'' ''Advanced degree = advanced career.'' ''Natural enlargement where you need it.'' ''Live chat room with real women!!'' Your correspondents claim to care about your health. Unfortunately, they care mainly about the length of your penis and the size of your breasts. They do not discriminate by sex; either way, you are assumed to feel inadequate. They offer implants and human growth hormone therapy. They are pharmaceutical enthusiasts, but we're not talking about penicillin; it's ''Viagra-Phentermine-Xenical-Propecia and MORE!'' They care about your finances. Here come the guaranteed paths to mortgage deals of a lifetime, cheap insurance, million-dollar prizes, hot stock tips and secrets of commodities trading. Parents panic when they discover that their teenagers have mail from ''Mellisa'' at SexAffair.org: ''Hi there! I got your e-mail from Jennifer and I just wanted to tell you strait up, I really like -! She told me u're into -- too. Lets hookup for a juicy weekend.'' Does this mean the kids are checking out porn sites? (No, it does not.) ----- [ This message has been scanned for viruses ] From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 17:55:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 12:55:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: > >> When I got my cell phone, I did some experiments, and found that I could >> easily be heard while talking in a quiet voice, even in a fairly noisy >> environment. So WHY DO THESE $%&*! MORONS THINK THEY HAVE TO SHOUT INTO >> THEIR CELL PHONES??? >> You know the thing I find freaky? People will sit on the train or in restaurants and scream (Hmm, typed screw there at first) things into their phones that if they were talking to somebody in person, they would look around and see who was listening and then lower their voice when they said the same thing. There is like a total disconnect between them and their environment that they wouldn't feel if there where there in person. I still can't get used to those handfree ones either. Where people are walking down the street talking to themselves. Sort of makes them seem like a crazy homeless person who is screaming at everybody on the street. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 18:01:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:01:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Do you ever... References: Message-ID: > "Craig Sturdivant" wrote in message > news:b14si7$ea7$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Do you ever get a song in your mind, and then can't get it out? Is this >> song ever a very annoying song? My god it is happening to me right now. >> One of the schmucks that I work with downloaded the song Spanish Flea, I >> think from Herb Albert and the Tijuana Brass (or something like that). > That >> song has now spread to several people in the office, and is now a common >> song to hear. I hope that they play it as a joke. At first it was >> funny, but now it is annoying. That song is burned into my mind, I am >> constantly singing it and whistling it. I can't make it stop. Curses >> to that damn fool who downloaded it originally! > Hey, it is fun to stick a bad song in somebody else's head. Start singing it and then see later who is still stuck singing it. You can go off and listen to something else to unstick it from your mind, but since they don't know it was implanted in their mind, they don't take the proper countermeasures. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 18:14:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:14:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:26:22 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b1tdh0$f8a$1@news.spamcop.net... >> BTW, was the Marshall plan really such a "little" bit of help? > > The columnist was ignoring the economic side - which is probably accurate > since we do still send "foreign aid" to many countries who are still > anti-American. IIRC, North Korea is one of them. It would be just the > setting up and implementing democratic procedures, creating political > parties, and that kind of thing under the supervision of the US until it > works on its own. > > I am too young to remember the particulars of the Marshall Plan and > whether it was different than the foreign aid we now send. Of course, > many people believe that economic aid is what will eradicate the > terrorists since people with education, jobs, and enough left over for > recreation are not likely to be interested in rocking the boat. Like what seems to be the case with so many of the "charitable" programs that make up US foreign policy, there was a deliberate pragmatic reason behind the Marshall Plan that had nothing to do with charity. Europe had to be built up again so they could buy American exports. George Marshall was quoted to say "It is idle to think that a Europe left to its own efforts ... would remain open to American business in the same way that we have known in the past." [1] It was also meant to apply pressure to keep Communists out of the cabinets of Italy and France which had strong Communist parties at the time. Dean Acheson, secretary of state at the time, said "these measures of relief and reconstruction have been only in part suggested by humanitarianism. Your Congress has authorized and your Government is carrying out, a policy of relief and reconstruction today chiefly as a matter of national self-interest." [2] [1] People's History of the United States, Howard Zinn, pg 430. [2] ibid. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 18:31:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:31:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most expensive cities References: Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 10:38:37 -0500, kram wrote: > Mr K. Mean said something that sounded like: > | I was actually remembering The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner by > | Coleridge, but I could be remembering it in the wrong context. It has > | been a few decades since I read it last. > > The Rime of the Ancient Mariner > Part the Second > > Ah! well a-day! what evil looks > Had I from old and young! > Instead of the cross, the Albatross > About my neck was hung. > > So...you are in the right context here Kerry if you are saying that your > English degree is a burden to you. > Your own "cross to bear"? Yeah, that says pretty much what I meant to say. I suppose it didn't start and end with the degree, but it all does make casual conversation tough. Everything has to mean something and generally a bunch of things all at once, because there are layers of meaning, and those things are usually contradictory all at the same time. Yeah, I know sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but even when it is just a cigar, it is also a bunch of other things depending on the context of the original, or depending on the frame of reference of the reader which could be different in a month when they read it again based on where they are at the time and their context and how things changed over that month. Aargh, so what was the point of this thread then? Cold out isn't it? How about them (insert your local professional sports team here). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 18:49:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 13:49:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: On Tue, 04 Feb 2003 22:47:05 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:b1q003$5n4$1@news.spamcop.net... >> http://www2.cio.com/research/security/edit/a12232002.html >> >> Conserve Privacy > > Scott has some good points. Every time I see those cameras at > intersections that control the lights, I think of 1984. Yet, in some > ways, our privacy is not being eroded, just the way in which people know > things is different. In a small town people know you and your business > and it is not always a bad thing - like cameras in mall parking lots for > security are little different from front porch sitters who see who is > going where and with whom. Yet the potential is there and how to update > one's rights to keep tyrants in check without losing the "good" is > challenging. > > Miss Betsy Government is always a balance between law and order and security, and personal freedoms and privacy. Depending on where you stand, you would still value all of them, but at different levels. Traffic lights take away freedoms to drive through any intersection when every you want, but most people give up this right for their and other's safety. Law and order can be a good thing, but it can also be abused. Where does monitoring parking lots to promote safely become abusive and intrusive? Is there a point where some laws should be passed and enforced despite what the majority thinks (the Civil Rights movement of the 60s) for everybody's good? How do you juggle all those different things? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:03:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:03:43 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > My results came out as: > > Prime Minister: Hmm... mine came out as "Prime Rib". I'm not sure what that means, but it sure made me hungry... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:09:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:09:39 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F6177.BAA45DD4@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D899.5D636C5E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46A773.22247244@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > And you know that is dangerous to show on California state highways. (With > cars doing nearly 100.) :-) I've got news for you - cars aren't the only things that are faster out here........ :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:08:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:08:49 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC83E.9E9748CF@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F614A.48A5EF4E@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D86E.BB158A92@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46A741.415345F3@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Shoot.. I missed it then. I'll wait and see if there is an encore presentation or > until the next episode. I think they're going to re-run the entire mini-series (6 episodes?) on Bravo, though I don't know what the lag time is for the repeats. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:15:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:15:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 11:03:43 -0800, GregR wrote: > Redstone wrote: > >> My results came out as: >> >> Prime Minister: > > Hmm... mine came out as "Prime Rib". > > I'm not sure what that means, but it sure made me hungry... :-) > > > Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark and dreary cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and understanding why everything happens for the best is your goal. You are the positive optimist of the world who provides the hope for all humankind. There is nothing so terrible that you can not find some good within it. On the positive side, you are spontaneous, charismatic, idealistic and empathic. On the negative side, you may be a sentimental dreamer who is emotionally impractical. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:31:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: New York Times Article on Spam References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Blitz! [snip] And after that part (posted) it goes on for another 3 pages. The most interesting part of the article is its total and complete lack of interest. Yawn! Oh, he does give two solutions to spam (which didn't make it into your message). Yawn... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:51:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:51:06 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.09.18.49.54.737394@sneakemail.com... [...] > How do you juggle all those different things? I don't. I don't have all the answers, and I know I don't. That's why I'm not running for office. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 19:56:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 20:56:08 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.09.17.55.23.290802@sneakemail.com... [...] > Where people are > walking down the street talking to themselves. Sort of makes them seem > like a crazy homeless person who is screaming at everybody on the street. ...or like a bunch of alcoholics talking to the void. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 20:55:35 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 15:55:35 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b26bfa$24p$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: > pan.2003.02.09.18.49.54.737394@sneakemail.com... > [...] > > How do you juggle all those different things? > > I don't. I don't have all the answers, and I know I don't. That's why I'm > not running for office. > Politics is the art of the possible. The best politician listens to both (or all) viewpoints and comes up with a law that is "possible" It is a real talent. In reality, the law gets pulled one way and then another as people get alarmed about security vs freedom and speak out. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 20:59:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 15:59:08 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.09.18.14.31.867580@sneakemail.com... > On Thu, 06 Feb 2003 07:26:22 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > > > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > > news:b1tdh0$f8a$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> BTW, was the Marshall plan really such a "little" bit of help? > > > > The columnist was ignoring the economic side - which is probably accurate > > since we do still send "foreign aid" to many countries who are still > > anti-American. IIRC, North Korea is one of them. It would be just the > > setting up and implementing democratic procedures, creating political > > parties, and that kind of thing under the supervision of the US until it > > works on its own. > > > > I am too young to remember the particulars of the Marshall Plan and > > whether it was different than the foreign aid we now send. Of course, > > many people believe that economic aid is what will eradicate the > > terrorists since people with education, jobs, and enough left over for > > recreation are not likely to be interested in rocking the boat. > > Like what seems to be the case with so many of the "charitable" programs > that make up US foreign policy, there was a deliberate pragmatic reason > behind the Marshall Plan that had nothing to do with charity. Europe had > to be built up again so they could buy American exports. George Marshall > was quoted to say "It is idle to think that a Europe left to its own > efforts ... would remain open to American business in the same way that we > have known in the past." [1] > > It was also meant to apply pressure to keep Communists out of the cabinets > of Italy and France which had strong Communist parties at the time. Dean > Acheson, secretary of state at the time, said "these measures of relief > and reconstruction have been only in part suggested by humanitarianism. > Your Congress has authorized and your Government is carrying out, a policy > of relief and reconstruction today chiefly as a matter of national > self-interest." [2] > > [1] People's History of the United States, Howard Zinn, pg 430. > [2] ibid. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 21:03:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 16:03:08 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" > Like what seems to be the case with so many of the "charitable" programs > that make up US foreign policy, there was a deliberate pragmatic reason > behind the Marshall Plan that had nothing to do with charity. Europe had > to be built up again so they could buy American exports. George Marshall > was quoted to say "It is idle to think that a Europe left to its own > efforts ... would remain open to American business in the same way that we > have known in the past." [1] > > It was also meant to apply pressure to keep Communists out of the cabinets > of Italy and France which had strong Communist parties at the time. Dean > Acheson, secretary of state at the time, said "these measures of relief > and reconstruction have been only in part suggested by humanitarianism. > Your Congress has authorized and your Government is carrying out, a policy > of relief and reconstruction today chiefly as a matter of national > self-interest." [2] > > [1] People's History of the United States, Howard Zinn, pg 430. > [2] ibid. Money is the bottom line many times. And so is power. It is why sometimes politics makes strange bedfellows. People who want true humanitarian aid can only get it if it appeals to someone else's self interest and vice versa. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:02:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Rascle) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:02:27 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0600 in article <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Cat wrote: >> Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded to his >> web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's kind of >> twisted but funny as hell. >> >> http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ All I get is a blank page. Must be an ActiveX as thats typically the only time I get a blank page like that. Yep verified via Sam Spade. Not only ActiveX but also contains macromedia flash trash. Oh well guess I'll have to miss it. -- Rascle I am not SPEWS, nor a SpamCop admin. Just a user of both and I love what they do. Please respond only to the newsgroups. Do not email replies. Thank you. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:21:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.09.19.15.28.630449@sneakemail.com... > Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: > > The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of > the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark and dreary > cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and understanding why > everything happens for the best is your goal. You are the positive > optimist of the world who provides the hope for all humankind. There is > nothing so terrible that you can not find some good within it. On the > positive side, you are spontaneous, charismatic, idealistic and empathic. > On the negative side, you may be a sentimental dreamer who is emotionally > impractical. **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:23:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:23:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Morning comics... References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931C57880D22Ccharles@216.154.195.60... > [very punny - ha ha (sigh)] > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030208.gif > ***LOL........ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:27:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 17:27:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> <3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Rascle" wrote in message news:3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net... > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0600 in article <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Cat wrote: > > >> Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded to his > >> web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's kind of > >> twisted but funny as hell. > >> > >> http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ > > All I get is a blank page. Must be an ActiveX as thats > typically the only time I get a blank page like that. > > Yep verified via Sam Spade. Not only ActiveX but also > contains macromedia flash trash. Oh well guess I'll have > to miss it. > ***Oh please enable flash so you can see it, I laughed out loud, sicko that I am (call me the Anti-Cupid...) ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:44:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:44:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: If you were all powerful References: <3E409F49.B57B4CE4@spamcop.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 14:28:27 -0800, Guy Macon wrote: > > Mr K. Mean wrote: > >>You know the thing I find freaky? People will sit on the train or in >>restaurants and scream (Hmm, typed screw there at first) things into >>their phones that if they were talking to somebody in person, they would >>look around and see who was listening and then lower their voice when >>they said the same thing. There is like a total disconnect between them >>and their environment that they wouldn't feel if there where there in >>person. > > They get the same total disconnect between them and their environment > while driving. Like the lady I saw a few months back who was holding her phone in one hand and gesturing with the other one. At least NY has outlawed the handheld phones in cars. That's a start. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 22:42:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:42:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.09.19.15.28.630449@sneakemail.com... >> Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: >> >> The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of >> the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark and >> dreary cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and understanding >> why everything happens for the best is your goal. You are the positive >> optimist of the world who provides the hope for all humankind. There is >> nothing so terrible that you can not find some good within it. On the >> positive side, you are spontaneous, charismatic, idealistic and >> empathic. On the negative side, you may be a sentimental dreamer who is >> emotionally impractical. > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) Nope, Aquarius. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:05:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:05:48 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So who watched the Michael Jackson documentary? References: <3E444691.39D83D91@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46DECC.3D0846E1@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > > **How then does he explain his chin? That sure isn't the same..... He says it was natural... Claims that he only had two nose jobs to help him breathe? (I beg your pardon? The nose for him before the surgeries (and black people in general) was built for better breathing anyways. (Think of Africa's arid conditions.)) And that the squaring of the jaw was natural too. (Err.. I don't think the skull undergoes THAT kind of radical changing over a period of 10 years.. and when he/she is an adult.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:06:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:06:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F6177.BAA45DD4@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D899.5D636C5E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A773.22247244@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E46DF05.12FA0F37@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Redstone wrote: > > > And you know that is dangerous to show on California state highways. (With > > cars doing nearly 100.) :-) > > I've got news for you - cars aren't the only things that are faster out > here........ :-) > > -- Motorcycles.. I know. The risk those people take.. :-p From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:08:26 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:08:26 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: .. 15 things to do in Wal-Mart References: <20030119173827.03197.00000081@mb-cr.aol.com> <3E2C6BFF.D308D566@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E2FA52F.D9155487@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E4443DE.83727B7D@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46DF6A.8C39C5CE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > > > They use magic markers. Works like a charm. :-) > > > ***Really? What color do you use?? Let me guess.... PURPLE? Nah.. highlights is not for me. (My fiance tried to do purple on her own hair by doing red and blue highlights. Didn't turn out too well.. the red color was overpowering. ) :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:12:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:12:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46E04D.64B011E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote: > "Peter Jensen" a écrit dans le message de > news: b22u4k$ego$1@news.spamcop.net > [...] > > I'm not sure what I screwed up in the test, [...] > > Management has *very* little appeal to me > > ... > > -- > > PeKaJe > > Well, the clergy has no appeal at all to me. Must be the test that's > screwed-up. > > Tony. Whatever you say Cardinal Tony. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:14:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:14:00 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E46E0B8.1CD10000@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > > > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > > news:pan.2003.02.09.19.15.28.630449@sneakemail.com... > >> Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: > >> > >> The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of > >> the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark and > >> dreary cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and understanding > >> why everything happens for the best is your goal. You are the positive > >> optimist of the world who provides the hope for all humankind. There is > >> nothing so terrible that you can not find some good within it. On the > >> positive side, you are spontaneous, charismatic, idealistic and > >> empathic. On the negative side, you may be a sentimental dreamer who is > >> emotionally impractical. > > > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) > > Nope, Aquarius. My fiance fit into the "Dreamer-Minstrel" category.. I think she is a Leo. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:10:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:10:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46DFCF.B2ED6EF1@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > > > I am... > Your distinct personality, The Shepherd is to tend to your human flock. You > understand the needs of those for whom you are responsible. Shepherds are > vigilant and reliable. You realize your obligation and commitment to the > well being of those entrusted to your care. Shepherds are very dependable. > You engender a feeling of comfort and stability to those within your charge. > On the positive side, Shepherds can be empathic, caring, understanding, > practical and realistic. On the negative side, you may be manipulative, > close-minded and sentimentally rigid. Interestingly, your preference is just > as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. > > Hmmm...... SCENE: Heidi's work.. Enter Engineer: Engineer: "Heidi, I need these 1200 pages photocopied in triplicate for my presentation in 15 minutes!" :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:11:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:11:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E46E00C.DEFC16EB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Frog Prince wrote: > | On the negative side, Bishops may be devious, short-sighted and rigidly > impractical. > > Seems to describe a number of modern catholic clergy ... > Ex-Cardinal Law comes to mind. It does.. but I think in Tony's case it is because he probably walks in diagonals. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:13:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:13:05 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E46E080.FC473935@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Redstone wrote: > > > My results came out as: > > > > Prime Minister: > > Hmm... mine came out as "Prime Rib". > > I'm not sure what that means, but it sure made me hungry... :-) > > -- Prime Rib? They had those back then? Must be a King Henry VIII thing. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:15:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:15:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: <3E46E116.4CD82CE0@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Nilla wrote: > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" skrev i meddelandet > news:b229lq$42j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Frog Prince" a écrit dans le message de news: > > b228ii$3g1$1@news.spamcop.net > > > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, > > > here's how to say "I Love You" in 18 > > > Languages.... > > > > > > English . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. . I Love You > > > > > > Spanish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Te Amo > > > > > > French . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Je T'aime > > > > > > German . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .lch Liebe Dich > > > > > > Japanese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ai Shite Imasu > > > > > > Italian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ti Amo > > > > > > Chinese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wo Ai Ni > > > > > > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar > > > > Dutch: Ik hou van jou. > > > > Russian: Ya tebya lyublyu. > > > > Esperanto: Mi amas vin. > > > > Tony. > > > > > > Greek: sagapo > > Nilla Just don't use "nice ass" when you visit the US.. at least not unless you reallyreallyreally know the gal. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:22:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:22:05 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> <3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: <3E46E29D.F6B2C6AE@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Heidi wrote: > "Rascle" wrote in message > news:3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net... > > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0600 in article > <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Cat wrote: > > > > >> Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded to > his > > >> web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's kind of > > >> twisted but funny as hell. > > >> > > >> http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ > > > > All I get is a blank page. Must be an ActiveX as thats > > typically the only time I get a blank page like that. > > > > Yep verified via Sam Spade. Not only ActiveX but also > > contains macromedia flash trash. Oh well guess I'll have > > to miss it. > > > ***Oh please enable flash so you can see it, I laughed out loud, sicko that > I am (call me the Anti-Cupid...) ;) That is some really messed up stuff.. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Sun Feb 9 23:52:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (WindsorFox [SS]) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:52:20 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Stormin' Norman - the voice of reason References: Message-ID: <3E46E9B4.3060602@SPAM.cox.net> Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was Heidi! > > >>My hero..... >> >>http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/1567120.php > > > Frickin' peace-loving kook! He needs to get his patooty slapped around > a bit by some down-home 'merican patriots! > Yeah! And we had NO reason to go into Germany eiather! Hitler Never threatened us and what he did inside the bouneries of his own country was never any of our business! What an injustice! Poor Adolf, if we had just left him alone to complete his plans everything would have been just wonderful. Everything he did was for the better! I say we should leave Iraq alone and mind our own stinking busuness! Islam isn't all that bad and once everyone in the world is forced to join then we will all feel and think just alike and there will be no more war and everyone in the world will be happy!!! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 00:01:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Stormin' Norman - the voice of reason References: <3E46E9B4.3060602@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was WindsorFox [SS]! > Charles wrote: >> Frickin' peace-loving kook! He needs to get his patooty slapped >> around a bit by some down-home 'merican patriots! >> > > Yeah! And we had NO reason to go into Germany eiather! Hitler > Never > threatened us and what he did inside the bouneries of his own > country was never any of our business! What an injustice! Poor > Adolf, if we had just left him alone to complete his plans > everything would have been just wonderful. Everything he did was > for the better! I say we should leave Iraq alone and mind our own > stinking busuness! Islam isn't all that bad and once everyone in > the world is forced to join then we will all feel and think just > alike and there will be no more war and everyone in the world will > be happy!!! I do have a few points on your ironic/sarcastic reply... You didn't include my irony part, for one. Hello! And there is the misplaced irony in the part of your post concerning WWII. Puhleeze! As with WWI, the war was already lost (if not yet over) before the 'mericans got involved. Then, in the latter part, you are blowing all possible consequences largely out of proportion. Of course, in a certain sense, that is what irony is all about. Whatever! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 00:05:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Stormin' Norman - the voice of reason References: <3E46E9B4.3060602@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was WindsorFox [SS]! > From: "WindsorFox [SS]" > It is widely accepted to increase the spam level to non-existant hosts and, at the same time, largely frowned upon to increase the spam level at existant hosts. A suggestion taking this into account would be something like windsorfoxDONT@EVEN.cox.SPAM.net.ME (unless, of course, there is a domain 'spam.net.me' - but since 'me' isn't a TLD, you're pretty safe with this one, eh?). Cheers! c From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 00:11:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (WindsorFox [SS]) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:11:48 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: Message-ID: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b1tubh$qod$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>'Twould be funny if it weren't pathetic. > > > You mean if it weren't pathetically true! > > I can't believe there are still people in the US as late as the 7th that are ignorant enough to continue to believe this steaming pile propagated by the people who would do anything to regain the pathetic little amount of power they lost. The very people who would be demanding we do something about the horrible war monger who invades his neighbors, poisons and tortures hos own citizens, if we were totally uninterested in his attitude and were negotiating to buy his oil. It's hard to believe that some people are such sore losers that they can not accept the ebb and flow of politics and they will go to any length the undermine the oppsing party, even to the extent of puttin their own country and all it's people into the gutter. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 01:24:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (JerryMouse) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 19:24:02 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Poor Laci Peterson... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b1sjmh$v0l$1@news.spamcop.net... > what a piece of crap she married... > > http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/Peterson_030205.html > Why else do you think she ran off with a vacuum cleaner salesman from Pomona? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 02:38:09 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:38:09 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 18:11:48 -0600, WindsorFox [SS] wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message >> news:b1tubh$qod$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>>'Twould be funny if it weren't pathetic. >> >> You mean if it weren't pathetically true! >> > I can't believe there are still people in the US as late as the 7th > that are ignorant enough to continue to believe this steaming pile > propagated by the people who would do anything to regain the pathetic > little amount of power they lost. The very people who would be demanding > we do something about the horrible war monger who invades his neighbors, > poisons and tortures hos own citizens, if we were totally uninterested > in his attitude and were negotiating to buy his oil. It's hard to > believe that some people are such sore losers that they can not accept > the ebb and flow of politics and they will go to any length the > undermine the oppsing party, even to the extent of puttin their own > country and all it's people into the gutter. Yes it is satire and kind of funny, but what part of it isn't substantially true? In case you were not reading the papers in the 80s, many of the weapons and components for chemical weapons were sold by US companies with the blessing of the State Department with full knowledge that they would be used against Iraq's neighbors (Iran) and their own population (the Kurds). Yes, I know it seems confusing who we are supporting, but "Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia." It gets harder to pin personal responsibility in all of this, but the entire Bush family does have deep roots in the oil industry and Cheney certainly has been hooked in the past. Just watch in 2005 or 2009, depending on how the reelection goes, just how many on the administration end up on the boards of oil companies. Maybe not a direct payoff, but a payoff none the less. A little quiz maybe? Can you name the country that systematically killed off its indigenous population, has made political prisoners of members of that population, probably introduced LSD to break an anti-war movement, spied on its population and many of the leaders of different movements to attempt to discredit them and break their power, has invaded a large number of countries in Latin America almost too many times to count, umm, should I go on here? You know, it is my country too and I wish I was proud of it. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 02:58:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 02:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > probably introduced LSD to break an anti-war movement !!! Wow! No way! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 03:42:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 22:42:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA In-Reply-To: References: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > >>probably introduced LSD to break an anti-war movement > > !!! Wow! No way! Ok, I don't think that was the original intent, but it was sort of to counter the point of govenments experimenting on and poisoning their own people that we as the good guys have never ever done. Look up MKULTRA in your favorite reference sources. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 04:02:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Redstone) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 23:02:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E47245A.EE90D6AA@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> GregR wrote: > Anybody watch the premiere tonight? I'd be interested in any feedback > (good or bad, doesn't matter). > > Based only on the promos that have aired for the past several weeks, it > looked really interesting and I'd picked it as a high quality mid-season > winner. Local paper agrees with my assessment, though USA Today only > gave it fair-to-middling reviews. > > Comments? > > -- Watched an encore presentation earlier today... Kind of reminds me of a modern version of Miami Vice... (minus Tubbs and Crocket). Not a bad show.. but I'm going to hold any further judgement until a few more shows to see how it develops. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 05:09:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:09:50 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E46E080.FC473935@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E47341E.DCF8936D@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Prime Rib? They had those back then? Must be a King Henry VIII thing. > :-) Or maybe what Henry the VIII ate.. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 05:10:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:10:57 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Scientific Study: Average Times, Male vs. Female :-) References: <3E3E123F.ABEB81E7@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E3EC952.86E92763@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E3F6177.BAA45DD4@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E42D899.5D636C5E@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A773.22247244@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E46DF05.12FA0F37@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E473461.C899E5BF@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Motorcycles.. I know. The risk those people take.. :-p Well, AFAIK you can't catch an STD from a motorcycle... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 05:15:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 21:15:41 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: "Kingpin" References: <3E3E08B3.FD0CE8BD@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E47245A.EE90D6AA@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: <3E47357D.25860987@suespammers.org.NULL> Redstone wrote: > Watched an encore presentation earlier today... Well, Bravo for you... ;-) > Kind of reminds me of a modern version of Miami Vice... (minus Tubbs and > Crocket). Yeah, that was sort of my take on it from watching the promos. > Not a bad show.. but I'm going to hold any further judgement until a few > more shows to see how it develops. I've seen clips of an upcoming show (this week's?) with a rather strong-PG sex scene (one of my cow-orkers sez it's the most graphic sex scene she's ever seen on non-cable TV). If they wanted to push the boundaries I'd say they succeeded quite nicely. How'z that for a teaser?... :-) -- Greg (I can feel those ratings climbing by the minute) R - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> [Remove the null-routing to reply] Give me ambiguity or give me something else. Proud to be 'anmother Internet terrorist' (e-mail from Tommy Brock at Removeyou.org 5/24/02). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 06:31:31 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:31:31 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" skrev i meddelandet news:pan.2003.02.09.22.41.59.395384@sneakemail.com... > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > > > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > > news:pan.2003.02.09.19.15.28.630449@sneakemail.com... > >> Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: > >> > >> The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of > >> the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark and > >> dreary cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and understanding > >> why everything happens for the best is your goal. You are the positive > >> optimist of the world who provides the hope for all humankind. There is > >> nothing so terrible that you can not find some good within it. On the > >> positive side, you are spontaneous, charismatic, idealistic and > >> empathic. On the negative side, you may be a sentimental dreamer who is > >> emotionally impractical. > > > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) > > Nope, Aquarius. Me too, Aquarius and Dreamer Minstrel.... Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 09:04:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:04:08 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46E00C.DEFC16EB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E46E00C.DEFC16EB@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com > Frog Prince wrote: > > > > On the negative side, Bishops may be devious, short-sighted and > > > rigidly > > impractical. > > > > Seems to describe a number of modern catholic clergy ... > > Ex-Cardinal Law comes to mind. > > It does.. but I think in Tony's case it is because he probably walks in > diagonals. :-) I had a fleeting thought on that lines too: English "the Bishop", French "le Fou" ("the Fool"), Arabic "al-Fîl" or Russian "slon" ("the Elephant"), German "der Läufer" or Hungarian "a futó" ("the Runner"). Amazing how some terms get translated... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 09:06:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:06:53 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.09.22.41.59.395384@sneakemail.com > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: [...] > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) > > Nope, Aquarius. Meaning you had a birthday recently, or will have one soon. Many happy returns. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 09:17:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:17:49 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: "WindsorFox [SS]" a écrit dans le message de news: 3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net [...] > I can't believe there are still people in the US as late as the 7th > that are ignorant enough to continue to believe this steaming pile > propagated by the people who would do anything to regain the pathetic > little amount of power they lost. The very people who would be demanding > we do something about the horrible war monger who invades his neighbors, > poisons and tortures hos own citizens, if we were totally uninterested > in his attitude and were negotiating to buy his oil. It's hard to > believe that some people are such sore losers that they can not accept > the ebb and flow of politics and they will go to any length the > undermine the oppsing party, even to the extent of puttin their own > country and all it's people into the gutter. If they (tint) conceived politics in terms of "ebb and flow" they wouldn't be into it. No, to them politics is only a means to a goal and that goal is power. I don't know if they are aware of the fact that "power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely" but even if they are, they couldn't care less about that. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 09:23:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:23:27 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b26f60$4nf$1@news.spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b26bfa$24p$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de > > news: pan.2003.02.09.18.49.54.737394@sneakemail.com... > > [...] > > > How do you juggle all those different things? > > > > I don't. I don't have all the answers, and I know I don't. That's why > > I'm not running for office. > > > > Politics is the art of the possible. The best politician listens to both > (or all) viewpoints and comes up with a law that is "possible" It is a > real talent. In reality, the law gets pulled one way and then another as > people get alarmed about security vs freedom and speak out. > > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Yeah. Belgian politics has been called "the art of compromise" and with all the dimensions of our political landscape (workers vs. enrttrepreneurs, Catholics vs. secular humanists, Flemish vs. Walloon...) it's a real art. Not for me, thanks. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 09:34:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:34:15 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh great, like I needed more bad news today.... References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b26fk4$4v7$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Money is the bottom line many times. And so is power. It is why > sometimes politics makes strange bedfellows. People who want true > humanitarian aid can only get it if it appeals to someone else's self > interest and vice versa. > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Vice-versa? You mean people driven by self-interest will only succeed if they can disguise it as someone else's humanitarianism? Hm, maybe you got something there... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 11:17:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Osmo Jauhiainen) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:17:45 +0200 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tips for travelers References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" kirjoitti viestissä:b228ii$3g1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Since Valentine's is just around the corner, in case words fail you, here's > how to say "I Love You" in 18 > Languages.... > > English . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . .. . . .. . I Love You > > Spanish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . Te Amo > > French . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Je T'aime > > German . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .lch Liebe Dich > > Japanese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ai Shite Imasu > > Italian . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ti Amo > > Chinese . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Wo Ai Ni > > Swedish . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Jag Alskar > > Alabama, Arkansas, Oklahoma, > North Carolina, South Carolina, > Georgia, Tennessee, Missouri, > Mississippi, West Virginia, > Texas, Kentucky and most campuses > . ... . . . . . . . . . Nice Ass > In Finland we say: Minä rakastan sinua Cheers, OsmoJ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 12:31:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:31:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:31:31 +0100, Nilla wrote: >> > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message >> >> Yeah, I guess it sort of makes sense for me: >> >> >> >> The Dreamer-Minstrel might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms >> >> of the time. You can always see the "Silver Lining" to every dark >> >> and dreary cloud. Look at the bright side is your motto and >> >> understanding why everything happens for the best is your goal. You >> >> are the positive optimist of the world who provides the hope for all >> >> humankind. There is nothing so terrible that you can not find some >> >> good within it. On the positive side, you are spontaneous, >> >> charismatic, idealistic and empathic. On the negative side, you may >> >> be a sentimental dreamer who is emotionally impractical. >> > >> > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) >> >> Nope, Aquarius. > > Me too, Aquarius and Dreamer Minstrel.... > > Nilla So, you know the curse well then, being hopelessly optimistic about people and the world, but spending far too much time thinking about it all and knowing what it is really like underneath. But then being optimistic despite it all. Oh well, "I might be a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." Hey, I did walk past the Dakota this week and around Strawberry Fields. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 12:40:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:40:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: > Discussion/alternate views welcome. Members of Class [6], subclass > ASS are encouraged to self-identify now with the string "*plonk*"... > I am definitely Class [6], but not subclass ASS. Not only am I not interested in spam because it is my job, but I have no experience with other ng's so I don't know whether spamcop is more or less anitsocial than most. When I first came to spamcop ng, there were a lot more "heated" discussions and a lot more "smartass" comments as part of those discussions. I think I was correct in assuming that it was a "style" of communication that I wasn't used to and that most of the participants did not consider that the discussion was worthless. Recently there was a discussion on .help that many newcomers felt was too "heated" but I was amused that the one who was getting lambasted (and giving as good as he got) said at the end, "This was a really good discussion." I like the "no-holds barred" aspect of this ng. I do think that people accuse people of being trolls as a pejorative rather than as a fact. IMHO those who are secure in their opinions, yet aware that there is always something to be learned, rarely use *plonk* -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 12:44:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:44:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:06:53 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: >> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > [...] >> > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) >> >> Nope, Aquarius. > > Meaning you had a birthday recently, or will have one soon. Many happy > returns. > > Tony. Yeah, been there done that. I've decided that I don't mind getting old all that much. I feel so much less of an idiot than I seemed a few years ago. I used my theory last week on a group of people that everybody is an idiot until they turn 30, then they spend the next few years freaking out about how idiotic they were. Only one guy, who was under 30, was upset about it, everybody else just nodded and laughed. I expect I'll keep upping the score to 40 then 50 and so on. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 12:46:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:46:54 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b27r2h$2ap$1@news.spamcop.net... [...]> Yeah. Belgian politics has been called "the art of compromise" and with all > the dimensions of our political landscape (workers vs. enrttrepreneurs, > Catholics vs. secular humanists, Flemish vs. Walloon...) it's a real art. > Not for me, thanks. I find it fascinating, but my problem is that I think I might get more interested in how to do it, than in the purpose, and be more machivallian - which IMHO is the problem with a lot of politicians. I am happier being a "prophet," where others can take it or leave it. I missed the link to my medieval personality so I don't know what that comparison is. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 12:59:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 07:59:28 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: I thought I had missed the link. But here it is. Well, I finally found the link! The Discoverer, might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. Your overriding goal is to go where no one else has ever gone before. Regardless of the number of available natural problems to be solved, it is not unusual for you to continually challenge yourself with new situations or obstacles that you have created. You are an insatiable explorer of people, places, things and ideas. You thrive on constant change and anything new or different. On the positive side, you can be creatively rational as well as open minded and just. On the negative side, you might be an impractical and indecisive procrastinator. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. Now I will have to see if anyone else got this one. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 13:04:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:04:18 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: No, it's not the "profession" but how one would "fit" best. Although Peter wouldn't like to be management, he likes to be in charge of what he does and is not rigid - he rules his little kingdom with love. Tony likes to impose order on chaos (reading all the ng and answering any unanswered posts). In this test, they have assigned that attribute to the Bishop. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 13:10:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:10:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: I've decided that I don't mind getting old > all that much. I feel so much less of an idiot than I seemed a few years > ago. I used my theory last week on a group of people that everybody is an > idiot until they turn 30, then they spend the next few years freaking > out about how idiotic they were. Only one guy, who was under 30, was > upset about it, everybody else just nodded and laughed. I expect I'll > keep upping the score to 40 then 50 and so on. After so on, one starts to accept that one is an idiot and stops freaking out. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 13:15:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: URGENT PLEA References: <3E46EE44.10101@SPAM.cox.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > Ok, I don't think that was the original intent Of that or of your post? [Now, see, a grin comes in handy here because truly, I'm not _that_ clueless!] But, on your original reply, I think that you forgot to mention the deficit... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 13:54:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > Discussion/alternate views welcome. Members of Class [6], > subclass ASS are encouraged to self-identify now with the string > "*plonk*"... "If you can keep your head while all those around you are loosing theirs, then perhaps you have misunderstood the situation." As an exercise, please rewrite this phrase so that it fits the current situation. Let's see... To put it another way, perhaps you are the problem. Out of curiousity, what is your Myers-Briggs personality type? You can take a test at: Cheers! c From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 13:58:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:58:02 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: You Live in * when... References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931E572A5DCE6charles@216.154.195.60... [...]> They are > (I'm not even sh|tting you) pouring foundations when it's 15F out. > (A friend joked that they must be mixing salt in with that to keep it > from freezing while it sets.) Crazy, man, crazy! I think it's antifreeze, not salt. At least that's what some people use for brick mortar (though my husband won't). Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 14:02:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: You Live in * when... References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > "Charles" wrote > [...]> They are >> (I'm not even sh|tting you) pouring foundations when it's 15F >> out. (A friend joked that they must be mixing salt in with that >> to keep it from freezing while it sets.) Crazy, man, crazy! > > I think it's antifreeze, not salt. At least that's what some > people use for brick mortar (though my husband won't). Hey, smart guy :) But, you're right - I have a friend who teaches materials at orono... I'll ask him... In the meantime, +I+ won't go mixing random compounds in with concrete and then hoping that it will set right :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 14:10:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:10:12 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? (for charles) References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: This is a reply to Charles, but for some reason I am getting an error message "line too long" when I reply directly. "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931E5ABE661DFcharles@216.154.195.60... [..] > Let's see... To put it another way, perhaps you are the problem. Out > of curiousity, what is your Myers-Briggs personality type? > You can take a test at: > Mine is INFJ, though on the medieval test, it came out INTJ, I believe. I try to be Thinking, not Feeling on the ng, though in general I feel first and think later. ng's are definitely not for those who are emotionally vulnerable! What's yours? Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 14:19:08 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? (for charles) References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > This is a reply to Charles, but for some reason I am getting an > error message "line too long" when I reply directly. > > "Charles" wrote in message > news:Xns931E5ABE661DFcharles@216.154.195.60... > [..] >> Let's see... To put it another way, perhaps you are the problem. >> Out of curiousity, what is your Myers-Briggs personality type? >> You can take a test at: >> > > > Mine is INFJ, though on the medieval test, it came out INTJ, I > believe. I try to be Thinking, not Feeling on the ng, though in > general I feel first and think later. ng's are definitely not for > those who are emotionally vulnerable! > > What's yours? I meant curiosity, of course, and I'm an INTJ as well. This appears to be the 'engineer' type. I was betting, in my little head, that Guy fit this type... If you search around the web for definitions of the type you find some, uh, harsh stuff about not accepting others' ideas and not being willing to change your mind. Which is why it seems that _you_ don't fit the type really well... Maybe that ambiguity on the first I/E is what differenciates you? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 14:34:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Monday funsies Message-ID: [kids] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030210.gif [on bill, for kram] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/hc/2003/hc030210.gif [you can lose 30 pounds before february!] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/co/2003/co030210.gif [perfect gift for a young mainer, this year anyway] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/cl/2003/cl030210.gif [silly] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmbou/2003/tmbou030210.gif [:) for Heidi] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030210.gif [Gotta love Grimmy!] http://www.grimmy.com/images/2003/mgg021003.gif [urban myth?] http://www.reuben.org/rwo/arch/030127.gif [better silly] http://dilbert.com/creators/naturalselection/archive/images/ naturalselection23658070030203.gif => http://tinyurl.com/5lwz [Red, I swear, it looks exactly like this now!] http://tinyurl.com/5lx2 [A repeat of what I already wrote for Guy] http://tinyurl.com/5bbc [Good grief! Is it a good monday or is it the coffee?] http://tinyurl.com/5lxa From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 14:49:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 09:49:43 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> <3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: In news:b26koq$8j4$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "Rascle" wrote in message | news:3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net... || On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:12:54 -0600 in article | <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> Cat wrote: || |||| Here's a link that one of my friends found somewhere and uploaded |||| to his web site. Play all three options when you look at it. It's |||| kind of twisted but funny as hell. |||| |||| http://www.yerot.com/~torey/valentines/ || || All I get is a blank page. Must be an ActiveX as thats || typically the only time I get a blank page like that. || || Yep verified via Sam Spade. Not only ActiveX but also || contains macromedia flash trash. Oh well guess I'll have || to miss it. || | ***Oh please enable flash so you can see it, I laughed out loud, | sicko that I am (call me the Anti-Cupid...) ;) Definitely fits the mood I am in for this holiday! Sick...sick...sick. I loved it :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:04:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:04:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Line too long error again References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931E5ED6F8123charles@216.154.195.60... > I meant curiosity, of course, and I'm an INTJ as well. This appears to > be the 'engineer' type. I was betting, in my little head, that Guy fit > this type... If you search around the web for definitions of the type > you find some, uh, harsh stuff about not accepting others' ideas and > not being willing to change your mind. Which is why it seems that > _you_ don't fit the type really well... Maybe that ambiguity on the > first I/E is what differenciates you? Actually, personality type just defines your preferences. It doesn't mean that one can't "think" or "feel" or that one can't be interested in people even though introverted. The best place to be is where one can choose the appropriate "quality" for the situation. Few people who know me would guess that I come up Introverted and my daughter, one of the most reserved people I know, still knew the names of everyone in her school while more extroverted friends didn't. It also depends on when one takes the test. My husband, usually dramatically a Sensing person, once actually came out Intuitive because he had just been counseling a student before taking the test. (my husband and I are exact opposites, BTW - and, naturally, I am a firm believer in opposites attract! It has made for an interesting life) I have a feeling that Guy has *plonked* me because I am Class [6] and he is assuming that I can't understand the technical argument, but IMHO, I understood it several posts before he did. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:17:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:17:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: In news:3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com, Redstone said something that sounded like: | http://www.cmi-lmi.com/enterppp.html | | Fun little personality test that'll determine how you would fit in the | medieval society. | | (Note: the site asks you for your name and occupation as required to | continue with the test. No biggie since you can put in any old name | and occupation.) | | | My results came out as: | | Prime Minister: I'll see your Prime Minister and raise you a Benevolent Ruler :) Your distinct personality, The Benevolent Ruler might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. You are the idealistic social dreamer. Your overriding goal is to solve the people problems of your world. You are a social reformer who wants everyone to be happy in a world that you can visualize. You are exceptionally perceptive about the woes and needs of humankind. You often have the understanding and skill to readily conceive and implement the solutions to your perceptions. On the positive side, you are creatively persuasive, charismatic and ideologically concerned. On the negative side, you may be unrealistically sentimental, scattered and impulsive, as well as deviously manipulative. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:15:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Line too long error again References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > I have a feeling that Guy has *plonked* me because I am Class [6] > and he is assuming that I can't understand the technical argument, > but IMHO, I understood it several posts before he did. I don't think that Guy has plonked you (he's still responding to you in the main group), and _his_ "classes" are extremely unflattering - I feel that he is pouting in his corner (and clinging to whatever little support he gets) because everyone plonked him (he is striking back as he can - it's not very effective and certainly not advancing his case). The first step in recovery is always the recognition that the problem exists... When will that step come???? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:30:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:30:59 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b287ua$8qr$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Tony likes to impose order on chaos (reading all the ng and answering any > unanswered posts). In this test, they have assigned that attribute to the > Bishop. > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user I won't say you're wrong, but if you saw my desk or my bedroom you might think I live in chaos. And I leave many more posts unanswered (because I have nothing pertinent, or even humorous, to say) than I answer. OK, so I try to bring (moral) order upon chaos, to make light shine even in the deepest darkness, and to bring together (morally again) what lies scattered. I am excommunicated on at least two grounds (the other one is as a heretic) but it doesn't bother me all that much. Have I got any brethren on this newsgroup? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:39:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:39:50 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b287l9$8o6$1@news.spamcop.net > I thought I had missed the link. But here it is. > > Well, I finally found the link! > > The Discoverer, might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the > time. Your overriding goal is to go where no one else has ever gone > before. Regardless of the number of available natural problems to be > solved, it is not unusual for you to continually challenge yourself with > new situations or obstacles that you have created. You are an insatiable > explorer of people, places, things and ideas. You thrive on constant > change and anything new or different. On the positive side, you can be > creatively rational as well as open minded and just. On the negative > side, you might be an impractical and indecisive procrastinator. > Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate > kingdoms. > > Now I will have to see if anyone else got this one. > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Wow! Quite a personality! Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:37:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:37:12 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.10.12.44.12.344094@sneakemail.com > On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:06:53 +0100, Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: [...] > > Meaning you had a birthday recently, or will have one soon. Many happy > > returns. > > > > Tony. > > Yeah, been there done that. I've decided that I don't mind getting old > all that much. I feel so much less of an idiot than I seemed a few years > ago. I used my theory last week on a group of people that everybody is an > idiot until they turn 30, then they spend the next few years freaking > out about how idiotic they were. Only one guy, who was under 30, was > upset about it, everybody else just nodded and laughed. I expect I'll > keep upping the score to 40 then 50 and so on. Was it on this NG that I read that birthdays are good for your health? (The more of them you get, the longer you live.) (And my birthday was a fortnight or so ago, so I'm a Water-bearer too.) Beware about feeling less of an idiot. Or do you mean "less of an idiot than you were, but more than you felt"? Tony. :-) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:44:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:44:27 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Privacy et al References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b286tn$8em$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > I am happier being a "prophet," where others can take it or leave it. I > missed the link to my medieval personality so I don't know what that > comparison is. > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user As long as they can also leave it, it's OK by me, especially if^H^Hsince your gift of prophecy doesn't make you a Cassandra. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:55:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:55:57 EST Subject: [SpamCop-Social] doggie clip Message-ID: <1a0.10998ab9.2b79258d@aol.com> --part1_1a0.10998ab9.2b79258d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to get the doggy dancing up and can't get it. 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            &nbs= p;            &n= bsp;            dog l= over --part1_1a0.10998ab9.2b79258d_boundary-- From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 15:58:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:58:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b28h47$e6u$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: > b287l9$8o6$1@news.spamcop.net > Wow! Quite a personality! I think that all these personality quizzes are based on the Myers-Briggs. I think this one is INTJ which is less common than other ones. But actually the one I get most frequently is INFJ which is not as exciting (it could be the Bishop, come to think of it. I, too, like to bring order out of chaos, but I like to wait until it is chaos in order to do it!). Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:14:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:14:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: In news:b1c5lf$8i9$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "kram" wrote in message | news:b1c50p$7s7$1@news.spamcop.net... || I work in NYC - live in Jersey (right across the river) || || actually - I caught a break today - a freind and her hubby are || moving into a bigger place (new baby) and she talked to the landlord || about me - I am going to go talk to him tomorrow - wish me luck. || | **In a word....YAY! Things *will* work out....I just hope you like | the place. Well I finally got the keys on Friday and took a look at the place - man does it need lots of work. My friend is starting today on the painting - ceilings - floors - everything........ luckily the rent is ****cheap**** To add to my saga, he actually had a one-hour conversation on the phone with the slitch while I was in the house on Saturday night. They were discussing their plans for Valentine's Day. Isn't that fsking special .....grrrrrrrr -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:04:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 10:04:22 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3E414080.FA031C4C@not.here.for.spam.att.canada.ca> <3E41F91C.D996F16A@spamcop.net> <3e455363$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46ac63@0123456789rasclec1.net> <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: Class [7] Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the time. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:24:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:24:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? Message-ID: In news:b28j7c$fst$1@news.spamcop.net, Frog Prince said something that sounded like: | Class [7] | | Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the time. | Class [7] Subset {P} Those who are pretending to work. -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:32:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:32:18 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b28ia4$f48$1@news.spamcop.net > "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message > news:b28h47$e6u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: > > b287l9$8o6$1@news.spamcop.net > > Wow! Quite a personality! > > I think that all these personality quizzes are based on the Myers-Briggs. > I think this one is INTJ which is less common than other ones. But > actually the one I get most frequently is INFJ which is not as exciting > (it could be the Bishop, come to think of it. I, too, like to bring > order out of chaos, but I like to wait until it is chaos in order to do > it!). > > Miss Betsy Well, on that "Jung Typology test" I got INTP, with 44% - 67% - 1% - 44%. Does that mean anything to you? And how d'ya think it correlates with the Bishop? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:36:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:36:05 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b28k6j$gle$1@news.spamcop.net... [...]> Well, on that "Jung Typology test" I got INTP, with 44% - 67% - 1% - 44%. > Does that mean anything to you? And how d'ya think it correlates with the > Bishop? I'd have to study on it with my other references available. Right now I am in Class [7] subset {P}. I do find the ways personalities affect one's world viewpoint fascinating. Also how they interact. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:39:39 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:39:39 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all my fellow valentine scrooges in .social References: <3E46085E.23743739@spamcop.net> <3E460D86.4DE3159@spamcop.net> <3e46cff3$1@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b28dvm$c6c$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Definitely fits the mood I am in for this holiday! Sick...sick...sick. > I loved it :) > ***...not only that, it should give you some pretty handy suggestions....... ;) Remember what happened to George's fiancee.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:44:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:44:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b28iue$ff0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Well I finally got the keys on Friday and took a look at the place - man > does it need lots of work. My friend is starting today on the painting - > ceilings - floors - everything........ luckily the rent is ****cheap**** ***Who's responsible for getting it into a 'rentable' condition, the landlord or the tenants? Is it just cosmetic stuff that paint will fix, or are there structural things that the landlord should be fixing? Cheap is still good......any DIY urges you have will have a great outlet. > > To add to my saga, he actually had a one-hour conversation on the phone > with the slitch while I was in the house on Saturday night. They were > discussing their plans for Valentine's Day. Isn't that fsking special > .....grrrrrrrr > ***I take back what I said about not doing anything nasty -what a fscking loser. I can NOT believe the callousness, he is certainly no gentleman....too bad they don't sell "crabs" in a bottle, I'd leave him a nice going away present.........Maybe you could call your local vet clinic and see if they have any live scabies scrapings that you could use for a 'science experiment'...... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:53:48 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:53:48 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46DFCF.B2ED6EF1@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E46DFCF.B2ED6EF1@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > SCENE: Heidi's work.. > > Enter Engineer: > > Engineer: "Heidi, I need these 1200 pages photocopied in triplicate for my > presentation in 15 minutes!" > ***You have no idea how close that is. My boss called me from Florida at a conference in December, no advance warning, no nothing. He had about ten Powerpoint presentations, 10-30 pages each, that he wanted printed in color, duplexed, 20 copies each (do you have any idea how long color duplexing takes)and Fedexed to him for the next day. He did that two days in a row. Thankfully no one else needed the printer because it completely domintated the printer for the entire day. I did succeed, but damn, I hate surprises like that, and if I had been sick and not been at work, he would have been completely screwed......not good planning.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 16:51:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:51:52 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b28kfp$h4o$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > I'd have to study on it with my other references available. Right now I > am in Class [7] subset {P}. I do find the ways personalities affect one's > world viewpoint fascinating. Also how they interact. > > Miss Betsy Subset [P], heh? I'm Class [7] too but pretending isn't my style. Just getting dressed for the evening. And about personalities, I agree fully with you. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:06:34 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:06:34 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.10.12.31.49.122583@sneakemail.com... > So, you know the curse well then, being hopelessly optimistic about people > and the world, but spending far too much time thinking about it all and > knowing what it is really like underneath. But then being optimistic > despite it all. Oh well, "I might be a dreamer, but I'm not the only > one." Hey, I did walk past the Dakota this week and around Strawberry > Fields. **Aquarians are not usually known for being idealistic dreamers, rather much more practical, if not aggressive (passive aggressive counts), in getting what they want. I'm telling you, there's Pisces in your chart somewhere. If you know your exact time of birth there's a handy site that will do a chart for you - explains a LOT.... http://home.no.net/rocker/ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:03:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:03:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.09.22.41.59.395384@sneakemail.com... > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) > > Nope, Aquarius. **You've got Pisces in there somewhere I bet...rising, moon, whatever.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:03:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:03:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> <3E46E0B8.1CD10000@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:3E46E0B8.1CD10000@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com... > > > My fiance fit into the "Dreamer-Minstrel" category.. I think she is a Leo. > **She's a Leo, what are you? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:20:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:20:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: In news:b28ko2$hal$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "kram" wrote in message | news:b28iue$ff0$1@news.spamcop.net... || || Well I finally got the keys on Friday and took a look at the place - || man does it need lots of work. My friend is starting today on the || painting - ceilings - floors - everything........ luckily the rent || is ****cheap**** | | ***Who's responsible for getting it into a 'rentable' condition, the | landlord or the tenants? Is it just cosmetic stuff that paint will | fix, or are there structural things that the landlord should be | fixing? Cheap is still good......any DIY urges you have will have a | great outlet. I am responsible, but he's giving me the whole month of February (what's left of it) rent free to get it done. As for what has to be done.....the drop ceiling in the living room is half missing and half falling down - someone wrote on the walls of that same room with black magic marker - all of the floor tiles in the kitchen and the hallway and the bathroom need to be replaced - everything needs to be spackled and painted - the rug in the bedroom has to go - and the best....it looks like someone kicked the previous door in, so the molding is all screwed up around the (new) door and the deadbolt is useless because it doesn't lock into anything :( Luckily I have a friend that is a contractor - he has promised me to get it *all* done this week. (and Romeo is paying for it). || To add to my saga, he actually had a one-hour conversation on the || phone with the slitch while I was in the house on Saturday night. || They were discussing their plans for Valentine's Day. Isn't that || fsking special .....grrrrrrrr || | ***I take back what I said about not doing anything nasty -what a | fscking loser. I can NOT believe the callousness, he is certainly no | gentleman....too bad they don't sell "crabs" in a bottle, I'd leave | him a nice going away present.........Maybe you could call your local | vet clinic and see if they have any live scabies scrapings that you | could use for a 'science experiment'...... HA! Good one.....I'm still trying to be the calm one, but I'm not quite making it. I exploded at him this morning (4:30 AM to be exact) about that phone call - I hadn't slept all night (and still haven't) and he said something to me about "taking care of that situation"....I still don't know what he meant by that, because I went ballistic - I have to apologize to my neighbors for waking everyone up :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:39:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:39:03 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.10.12.31.49.122583@sneakemail.com... > > So, you know the curse well then, being hopelessly optimistic about people > > and the world, but spending far too much time thinking about it all and > > knowing what it is really like underneath. But then being optimistic > > despite it all. Oh well, "I might be a dreamer, but I'm not the only > > one." Hey, I did walk past the Dakota this week and around Strawberry > > Fields. > > **Aquarians are not usually known for being idealistic dreamers, rather much > more practical, if not aggressive (passive aggressive counts), in getting > what they want. I'm telling you, there's Pisces in your chart somewhere. > If you know your exact time of birth there's a handy site that will do a > chart for you - explains a LOT.... > http://home.no.net/rocker/ > There is nothing aggressive in an Aquarian..... Here are some typical characteristics for an Aquarius - I think I can relate to most of them (not that I am VERY interested in horoscopes and such): If you were born under the sign of Aquarius the water-bearer you are independent, inventive, tolerant, humanitarian, logical, intellectual, progressive, and scientific. You can also be unpredictable, temperamental, cold, eccentric, argumentative, stubborn, impersonal, and rebellious. Pisces: If you were born under the sign of Pisces the fish you are sympathetic, emotional, intuitive, artistic, musical, a day-dreamer, compassionate, and introspective. You may also be impractical, timid, procrastinating, over-talkitive, melancholy, and often feel misunderstood. Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 18:02:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:02:56 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: | ***I take back what I said about not doing anything nasty -what a fscking | loser. I can NOT believe the callousness, he is certainly no | gentleman....too bad they don't sell "crabs" in a bottle, I'd leave him a | nice going away present.........Maybe you could call your local vet clinic | and see if they have any live scabies scrapings that you could use for a | 'science experiment'...... | Let's see ---- itching power in the mattress (sourced from a joke/fun p) --- flea eggs in the carpet -- perhaps a pest control company? Alternative from a (used) vacumm bag from an appartment that does have fleas. (not necessarey to seperate just leave it (open) in the closet or other hidden space. Fresh eggs (still in the shell) in the toilet flush tank (takes months but does produce some of the most annoying (light) orders that are very hard to locate. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 17:56:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 11:56:25 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: Message-ID: | | Class [7] | | | | Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the time. | | | Class [7] Subset {P} | Those who are pretending to work. Poor folk :<( I've been (early) retired since ~'95 & have forgotten how to 'fake it' From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 19:36:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:36:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: In news:b28ql0$lq0$2@news.spamcop.net, Frog Prince said something that sounded like: | Let's see ---- itching power in the mattress (sourced from a joke/fun | p) --- flea eggs in the carpet -- perhaps a pest control company? | Alternative from a (used) vacumm bag from an appartment that does have | fleas. (not necessarey to seperate just leave it (open) in the | closet or other hidden space. No fleas - Sylvester is staying with him....if he wasn't then I would think about it. | Fresh eggs (still in the shell) in the toilet flush tank (takes | months but does produce some of the most annoying (light) orders that | are very hard to locate. I'll keep that one in my "maybe" file (which is getting quite large thanks to *some* people) :) -- KK "If the English language made any sense, a catastrophe would be an apostrophe with fur." --Doug Larson ô|ô Ö From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 19:42:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:42:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: Message-ID: In news:b28ql0$lq0$1@news.spamcop.net, Frog Prince said something that sounded like: ||| Class [7] ||| ||| Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the ||| time. ||| || Class [7] Subset {P} || Those who are pretending to work. | | | Poor folk :<( I've been (early) retired since ~'95 & have forgotten | how to 'fake it' Go ahead and rub it in FP ;) -- KK <==== normal retirement date June 1, 2031 == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 19:44:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:44:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b28mr3$j61$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I am responsible, but he's giving me the whole month of February (what's > left of it) rent free to get it done. As for what has to be done.....the > drop ceiling in the living room is half missing and half falling down - > someone wrote on the walls of that same room with black magic marker - all > of the floor tiles in the kitchen and the hallway and the bathroom need to > be replaced - everything needs to be spackled and painted - the rug in the > bedroom has to go - and the best....it looks like someone kicked the > previous door in, so the molding is all screwed up around the (new) door and > the deadbolt is useless because it doesn't lock into anything :( **I find that very strange - that the property owner isn't responsible for any of the maintenance - is that the way it is most places? Is he going to fix anything at all? Doesn't make sense to me that you'd be investing that much money in a place you don't own, but then again, if he's paying for it, spend as much as possible, and I hope you got that agreement in writing because I"m willing to bet once he sees the pricetag he's going to balk and try to blow you off. > > Luckily I have a friend that is a contractor - he has promised me to get it > *all* done this week. (and Romeo is paying for it). ***....aaaaaaaaaaannd you got that in WRITING......right? Sorry to nag - been down this road before, putting things in writing is a must, the effin' bastards never want to pay for anything once they have a new slag in waiting........ > > HA! Good one.....I'm still trying to be the calm one, but I'm not quite > making it. I exploded at him this morning (4:30 AM to be exact) about that > phone call - I hadn't slept all night (and still haven't) and he said > something to me about "taking care of that situation"....I still don't know > what he meant by that, because I went ballistic - I have to apologize to my > neighbors for waking everyone up :) > ***'taking care of that situation'. Sounds like waffling bullshit to me...... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 19:55:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:55:47 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: In news:b28v8t$q04$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "kram" wrote in message | news:b28mr3$j61$1@news.spamcop.net... || || I am responsible, but he's giving me the whole month of February || (what's left of it) rent free to get it done. | **I find that very strange - that the property owner isn't | responsible for any of the maintenance - is that the way it is most | places? Is he going to fix anything at all? I think if I pushed him, he (the landlord) would agree to some of the work, but since this is a "handshake" deal. I'm not going to make an issue of it. As for himself paying - see next answer........ || Luckily I have a friend that is a contractor - he has promised me to || get it *all* done this week. (and Romeo is paying for it). | ***....aaaaaaaaaaannd you got that in WRITING......right? Sorry to | nag - been down this road before, putting things in writing is a | must, the effin' bastards never want to pay for anything once they | have a new slag in waiting........ Me, him and my friend the contractor went up there Sunday afternoon and my friend wrote up the bill in Romeo's name, and he agreed to it and signed it. And gave him cash for the supplies. With a check to follow today for the rest. | ***'taking care of that situation'. Sounds like waffling bullshit to me...... 'xactly....that's why I freaked out on him in the wee hours of this AM :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:15:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:15:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b28vth$qld$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I think if I pushed him, he (the landlord) would agree to some of the work, > but since this is a "handshake" deal. I'm not going to make an issue of it. > As for himself paying - see next answer........ > > Me, him and my friend the contractor went up there Sunday afternoon and my > friend wrote up the bill in Romeo's name, and he agreed to it and signed it. > And gave him cash for the supplies. With a check to follow today for the > rest. ***OOOOHHHHH EXCELLENT.......So if he decides to stiff anyone, it'll be the (hopefully big burly and bad tempered) contractor, not you.. Sweet.... ;) > > | ***'taking care of that situation'. Sounds like waffling bullshit to > me...... > > 'xactly....that's why I freaked out on him in the wee hours of this AM :) > **I wish you were at a place where you weren't emotionally died to this dickhead, so you could calmly sit back and sarcastically make fun of his appalling behavior, to his face. You can't help but be hurt because you are emotionally involved, and the hurt and anger pretty much override any logic. His behavior, while obnoxious, is very amusing, because you KNOW this is all going to come back and bite him in the arse. You actually did get the better end of this deal, look how much better off you are than the slag, she's got a cheating lying bastard on her hands, you have a new place, at his expense, free and clear of any more of his crap. They both did you a beeeeeg favor.... I still wish there was a place you could buy crabs......gotta get some homeless bum with a skin condition to come and occupy his bed for a few nights... :-D From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:10:11 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Maggie) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:10:11 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: How does a novice get rid of xupiter? it ghostly appears in my browser from time to time. I do think it came along with Kazaa, although I'm not positive. YK wrote in message ... >In news:b1boc3$10pg$1@news.grc.com, Ted Quantrill typed: >> By Michelle Delio >> "Internet users are mystified by a tricky browser add-on called >> Xupiter that installs itself without permission and defies attempts >> to remove it. Once active in a system, it periodically changes users' >> designated homepages to xupiter.com, redirects all searches to >> Xupiter's site, and blocks any attempts to restore the original >> browser settings. The program also attempts to download updates each >> time an affected computer boots up, and has been blamed for causing >> system crashes. Some are calling the program the most insidious thing >> on the Web." >> >> http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html > >Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams > >According to domain-name registration records, Xupiter.com is owned by a >Hungarian company, but sources say that Xupiter's real owners are the >Yomtobians, who reside in Sherman Oaks, California. > >http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57553,00.html > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:19:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:19:02 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: So much crap comes along with Kazaa. You'd best dump it and go with WinMX. In the meantime, you can run Ad Aware ( http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download/ ). It might get rid of Xupiter, and it will definately clean up any other spyware on your system. "Maggie" wrote in message news:b2912t$rgb$1@news.spamcop.net... > How does a novice get rid of xupiter? it ghostly appears in my browser from > time to time. I do think it came along with Kazaa, although I'm not > positive. > YK wrote in message ... > >In news:b1boc3$10pg$1@news.grc.com, Ted Quantrill typed: > >> By Michelle Delio > >> "Internet users are mystified by a tricky browser add-on called > >> Xupiter that installs itself without permission and defies attempts > >> to remove it. Once active in a system, it periodically changes users' > >> designated homepages to xupiter.com, redirects all searches to > >> Xupiter's site, and blocks any attempts to restore the original > >> browser settings. The program also attempts to download updates each > >> time an affected computer boots up, and has been blamed for causing > >> system crashes. Some are calling the program the most insidious thing > >> on the Web." > >> > >> http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html > > > >Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams > > > >According to domain-name registration records, Xupiter.com is owned by a > >Hungarian company, but sources say that Xupiter's real owners are the > >Yomtobians, who reside in Sherman Oaks, California. > > > >http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57553,00.html > > > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:29:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:29:01 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] For all of our (tino) engineer types Message-ID: a soul? http://tinyurl.com/5mn6 -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:33:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:33:57 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: | I'll keep that one in my "maybe" file (which is getting quite large thanks | to *some* people) A heads up if someone does anything to P.M.O and I find out about it (I'm not the sharpest nail in the box ) I don't believe in getting even I believe in getting ahead. For the record I find that just doing mock planing of revenge is much more satisfying the actually doing the deed. I've also found that former enemies sometime make the best friends. FP From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 20:59:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:59:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:b291en$rrt$1@news.spamcop.net... >You'd best dump it and go with WinMX. Try also Kazaa Lite. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:12:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:12:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: In news:b2912t$rgb$1@news.spamcop.net, Maggie typed: > How does a novice get rid of xupiter? it ghostly appears in my > browser from time to time. I do think it came along with Kazaa, > although I'm not positive. Get Ad-Aware and Spybot Search and Destroy. http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download http://security.kolla.de/index.php?lang=en&page=download > YK wrote in message ... >> In news:b1boc3$10pg$1@news.grc.com, Ted Quantrill typed: >>> By Michelle Delio >>> "Internet users are mystified by a tricky browser add-on called >>> Xupiter that installs itself without permission and defies attempts >>> to remove it. Once active in a system, it periodically changes >>> users' designated homepages to xupiter.com, redirects all searches >>> to >>> Xupiter's site, and blocks any attempts to restore the original >>> browser settings. The program also attempts to download updates each >>> time an affected computer boots up, and has been blamed for causing >>> system crashes. Some are calling the program the most insidious >>> thing >>> on the Web." >>> >>> http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57467,00.html >> >> Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams >> >> According to domain-name registration records, Xupiter.com is owned >> by a Hungarian company, but sources say that Xupiter's real owners >> are the Yomtobians, who reside in Sherman Oaks, California. >> >> http://www.wired.com/news/infostructure/0,1377,57553,00.html -- YoKenny From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:15:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:15:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] A cheerful note? Message-ID: Since all of this crap has been going on should I be happy to receive 2 emails from perfect strangers saying that I could: 1) Get married to a nice girl 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis I mean really - should I be thinking about a sex change or something? 8-) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:17:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > > > > Frog Prince wrote: >> >>Class [7] >> >>Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the >>time. >> > > An excellent addition! I would think that Class [7] would spend > more time in spamcop.social and less in other groups. Cases in point: FP, Heidi, Kram, Liz (where are you now, oh world traveler???), ... Oh, wait, didn't they already identify themselves as class 7? Go figure. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:22:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:22:28 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b294jl$uni$1@news.spamcop.net... > Since all of this crap has been going on should I be happy to receive 2 > emails from perfect strangers saying that I could: > > 1) Get married to a nice girl > 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis > > I mean really - should I be thinking about a sex change or something? > > 8-) > **LOL...it's always women, married/taken men and dodgy old pervs that tell me I'm attractive - I think I should either lower my standards or become a lesbian..... :-D From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:24:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > The test calls me an INTJ No surprise, there. > but I reject Myers-Briggs for the following reason: No reasons of your own? Hmm. Well, you know, whatever! I don't really 'believe' in this classification system, but I do believe pretty firmly that it -can- pull out some tendancies that the individual can identify with... Identification with tendancies only being important for those wishing to modify their behaviors, of course... And it can pull out the tendancies in a very concrete, measurable sense. I don't feel (hey, m.o., probably y.o., too, given your mb profile but since you don't 'believe' in the latter, well, yeah. um. then you certainly don't believe in the former! oof!) that astrology can say much about (oops! astrology was the former in the former parenthetical statement!) about how people are/react/behave. [No risk of alzheimer's here, eh?] Anywho, I'll go and check out your links and check back with you :) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:26:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 13:26:14 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:b293rq$u68$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:b291en$rrt$1@news.spamcop.net... > >You'd best dump it and go with WinMX. > > Try also Kazaa Lite. > > I've never trusted Kazaa Lite. They say it's spyware free, but they may have just made it harder to spot. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:46:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:46:45 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b295ui$t30$7@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Does anyone have an alternate theory to explain my observation that > there are more anti-social and aggressive people in spamcop.mail and > spamcop that one would expect? Or that there are fewer in > spamcop.social compared to spamcop.mail and spamcop? > > ***we're in .social for the fun of it - we generally don't give a rats arse about anything worth fighting over.... ;> From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:55:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:55:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b291rr$s94$1@news.spamcop.net... > a soul? > > http://tinyurl.com/5mn6 > **If a soul is what gives them the ability to clean up after themselves, then I'd say engineers don't have one (says me, still trying to get the coffee stain out of the brand new rug because some hosebag spilled his coffee and made no attempt to clean it up.......grrrrrrrrrrr..........) "WHERE WERE YOU BROUGHT UP, IN A BARN???" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:55:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:55:57 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b294g5$t30$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > Charles wrote: > > >Out of curiousity, what is your Myers-Briggs personality type? > >You can take a test at: > > > > > > The test calls me an INTJ, but I reject Myers- > Briggs for the following reason: > > "[Jung's] typology seems to imply that science is > just a point of view and that using intuition is > just as valid a way of seeing and understanding > the world and ourselves, as careful observation > under controlled conditions. Never mind that that > is the only way to systematically minimize > self-deception and identifying causes where there > are none. Intuition may be a valid way of perceiving, > but it is not a valid way of understanding the > natural world." > Source: http://skepdic.com/myersb.html IMHO, that is not a valid reason for rejecting the usefulness of the Myers Briggs Test. IIUC, intuitive people simply *prefer* to view things intuitively, but if necessary, can use their sensing abilities. And the same goes for all the other attributes - because I am "introverted" does not mean that I can not speak in public, for instance. Perhaps you had a difficult time understanding the preciseness of the difference between bounces and replies because you were not using your sensing abilities to "carefully observe" the facts. Often, I believe, intuitive people are not good spellers. That doesn't mean all intuitive people are not. The observation that some people view the world intuitively is a valid scientifc observation. > The same page goes on to discuss the online test: > > "[Myers-Briggs] is not supposed to be used to spew > out personality profiles and pigeonhole people, but > the temptation to do so seems irresistible. ... > providing personality tests and profiles has become > a kind of entertainment on the Internet. Reading > these profiles is like reading something from Omar > the astrologer or Madame Sophie the psychic > biorhythmist. ... The experience is very reminiscent > of James Randi's experiment with biorhythms and > Forer's cold reading of strangers. > Source: http://skepdic.com/myersb.html It is true that online tests and other tests in magazines and books are not very scientific and are closer to parlor games than true descriptions. My mother had a parlor game called "I've Got Your Number" (published in the 1930's) that was definitely "for fun" but was probably based on the Jungian model. It was a lot of fun to do. However, IMHO, they are closer to the "truth" than say, astrology. The value of knowing your Myers-Briggs type as well as understanding how different types interact is that you can understand where people are coming from. It is not a dangerous kind of pop science and can give a general understanding of the differences in people. However, I disagree with Charles about your problems with the news group. When I first came to the ng, I was called a troll also, for IMHO, the same reason you were. I had an idea and no one was giving me any "good" reasons why it wasn't a good idea. Like you, I wasn't particularly advocating it; all I wanted to know was why they didn't and wasn't satisfied with any of the answers. Being naturally a feeling person and therefore having had to learn how to deal with my feelings in situations such as that, I didn't let it bother me or tried to fix it (the thinking man's approach to problems and that's a male/female trait and I don't know if that has anything to do with Myers Briggs). Anyway, you are right that there are different groups of people with different foci, but there are overlaps also. And IMHIO it doesn't matter. If you want me to "think" about it scientifically, you will have to challenge me, ;) Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:58:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:58:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Nilla" wrote in message news:b28o3n$k0h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > There is nothing aggressive in an Aquarian..... **I beg to differ...most of my friends are Aquarian, for some odd reason, and while they have some extremely good qualities (otherwise they wouldn't be my friends), I have never known more stubborn, aggressive (mostly passive), doggedly determined people in my life. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 21:58:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:58:04 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931EA5CEA66C2charles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! If he hasn't plonked me, how come he answered everyone else? Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 22:27:04 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:27:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > Charles wrote: > >>I'm an INTJ as well. This appears to be the 'engineer' type. >>I was betting, in my little head, that Guy fit this type... > > Not only that, but everywhere I have ever worked (all scientific > or engineering labs) 95% to 100% of the people score as INTJ. > > Also, more than half of us fit the profile for ADD. > > These are interesting observations, but I question their > scientific validity. (I can hear it now: "of course he does! > he's an INTJ!" ) 10 second break... Ok, so let's think about this for a second... All of the engineers that you worked with had a certain type (whatever it was, it's not important)? Go figure. It seems to me that you are implying that engineers don't share common traits. I (in my infinite knowledge, wisdom or what have you. La la la!) would say that engineers share a lot of common traits. As do mechanics or nurses or doctors (in the group of only mechanics or of only nurses or of only doctors, not all together, silly!). A really easy category to pick on (oops! lump together under the umbrella of common traits) is computer geeks (at least, as they were ~10-15 years ago). So, used as it was originally designed, the MBTI could, perhaps direct you to a job... Hmm. It might direct you to a job that a lot of other people with similar characteristics (some similar characteristics, in some areas) have. This doesn't say anything about good or bad, right or wrong, it just says that these other people (who are probably something like you) have these certain jobs. And, according to the link that you gave, that is the only pretension of the test (at least, as it was originally written). Yes, some people have gone completely overboard with their interpretations and they sound like astrologists - any person could almost fit any definition (actually, in the part of the article where he talks about that, I certainly don't fit the types that aren't mine, but, hey, that's me). But that isn't he original aim of the test and it doens't even look much like it's the MB people doing that - in particular it's people at st. mary's college. So? Let them make mudpies in their corner - they're not hurting anyone! Anywho, you speak of jungian annecdotes and briggs myers annecdotes. Fine. Concerning Jung, I don't find it all that important - we're not really talking about Jung here, we're talking about a test that shows (fine, fine - would show if it were scientific) aptitude (? whatever) for a particular job. Who cares what terminology is used? I actually liked the article quite a bit - up to the 'debunking' phase, which I didn't fall for. But, really, for -you-, what is the difference between being called an egineer and being called an INTJ? For -me- it's pretty close to the same thing - at least in mindset. Uh, do you deny that you're using an engineer's mindset in these fora? Do you deny that it shows? Is it ok with you if I call the engineer's mindset INTJ? Now, in commenting on your post, you wrote: > "[Myers-Briggs] is not supposed to be used to spew > out personality profiles and pigeonhole people, but > the temptation to do so seems irresistible. ... > providing personality tests and profiles has become > kind of entertainment on the Internet. Reading > these profiles is like reading something from Omar > the astrologer or Madame Sophie the psychic > biorhythmist. ... The experience is very reminiscent > of James Randi's experiment with biorhythms and > Forer's cold reading of strangers. > Source: http://skepdic.com/myersb.html Note that I left this part of your message intact and in particular your context and elispes (I didn't remove anything). _I_ feel that this quote is taken entirely out of context and has been massaged to prove your point (that the profiles are incorrect). The last sentence, in particular, refers to what follows in the article and yet you leave it there as if it were a general comment on the MBTI. It isn't. It is a comment on the fools (again, like those at st. mary's and elsewhere) who write the profiles for each MB profile. Which (sigh, I hate to repeat myself) has nothing to do with the (original, at least) intent of the test. This doesn't seem to me like really fair argumentation... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 07:35:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (MRS LOI C ESTRADA) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:35:53 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] LOI C ESTRADA Dear Sir My name is LOI C=2EESTRADA=2CThe wife of Mr=2E JOSEPH ESTRADA=2C the former President of Philippines located in the South East Asia=2E My husband was recently impeached from office by a backed uprising of mass demonstrators and the Senate=2E My husband is presently in jail and facing trial on charges of corruption=2C embezzlement=2C and the mysterious charge of plunder which might lead to death sentence=2E The present government is forcing my husband out of manila to avoid demonstration by his supporter=2E During my husband's regime as president of Philippine=2C I realized some reasonable amount of money from various deals that I successfully executed=2E I have plans to invest this money for my children's future on real estate and industrial production=2E My husband is not aware of this because I wish to do it secretly for now=2E before my husband was impeached=2C I secretly siphoned the sum of $30=2C000=2C000 million USD =28Thirty million United states dollars=29 out of Philippines and deposited the money with a security firm that transports valuable goods and consignments through diplomatic means=2E I also declared that the consignment was solid gold and my foreign business partner owned it=2E I am contacting you because I want you to go to the security company and claim the money on my behalf since I have declared that the consignment belong to my foreign business partner=2E You shall also be required to assist me in investment in your country=2E I hope to trust you as a God fearing person who will not sit on this money when you claim it=2C rather assist me properly=2C I expect you to declare what percentage of the total money you will take for your assistance=2E When I receive your positive response I will let you know where the security company is and the payment pin code to claim the money which is very important=2E For now=2C let all our communication is by e-mail because my line are right now connected to the Philippines Telecommunication Network services=2E Please also send me your telephone and fax number=2E I will ask my son contact you to give you more details on after i have received a responce from you=2E Thank you and God bless you and family=2E MRS LOI C ESTRADA From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 22:31:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > If he hasn't plonked me, how come he answered everyone else? Ah. Mmm. Uh. Er. Hasn't he, then? Sure he did - over in the main group. 8:05 AM today he replied to you in "Re: Is mail bombing [...]" with: "Wise words indeed." From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 22:39:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Peter Jensen) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:39:05 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: >> a soul? >> >> http://tinyurl.com/5mn6 > > **If a soul is what gives them the ability to clean up after > themselves, then I'd say engineers don't have one (says me, still > trying to get the coffee stain out of the brand new rug because some > hosebag spilled his coffee and made no attempt to clean it > up.......grrrrrrrrrrr..........) "WHERE WERE YOU BROUGHT UP, IN A > BARN???" Hey, don't pester us with such insignificant details! :-) After all, we are the ones that create the technology of tomorrow ... But engineers aren't the only people who don't bother with these things. In Denmark we have a very famous scientist, who is often on TV. He is probably one of the most intelligent people in the country, but he is unable to tie his own shoes, much less take care of himself. Thank $DEITY for his wife :-) -- PeKaJe From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 22:47:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:47:19 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:10:45 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > > I've decided that I don't mind getting old >> all that much. I feel so much less of an idiot than I seemed a few >> years ago. I used my theory last week on a group of people that >> everybody is an idiot until they turn 30, then they spend the next few >> years freaking out about how idiotic they were. Only one guy, who was >> under 30, was upset about it, everybody else just nodded and laughed. I >> expect I'll keep upping the score to 40 then 50 and so on. > > After so on, one starts to accept that one is an idiot and stops freaking > out. > I can see that. It seems like the first one would be the hardest. Then it is just more of the same. So, wisdom isn't what you know, but more of what you know you don't know. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 22:50:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Nilla) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:50:49 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Heidi" skrev i meddelandet news:b2974a$1bd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Nilla" wrote in message > news:b28o3n$k0h$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > There is nothing aggressive in an Aquarian..... > > **I beg to differ...most of my friends are Aquarian, for some odd reason, > and while they have some extremely good qualities (otherwise they wouldn't > be my friends), I have never known more stubborn, aggressive (mostly > passive), doggedly determined people in my life. > I can't argue with you on that - they are your friends.... //I wonder what extremely good qualities could outweigh their nasty qualities? :-)// I would have had big problems with the doggedly determined people. There is too much one-eyedness in this world. People who jump into conclusions and then are too stubborn to change their minds... They only see what they decided to see. Aggressive people also turns me off, passive or not. Nilla From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:11:28 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:11:28 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 12:03:32 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message >> On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: >> >> > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) >> >> Nope, Aquarius. > > **You've got Pisces in there somewhere I bet...rising, moon, whatever.... I can't remember the whole deal, but it was something more like triple Aquarius on the sun, moon, and something else major. Ok, I looked it up. Sun, Mercury, and Venus. The ex was into all of this, I've been analyzed all over the place. I sort of remember how it all worked, but not all that well. It has been a few years. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:31:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:31:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:46:45 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > "Guy Macon" wrote in message > news:b295ui$t30$7@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> >> Does anyone have an alternate theory to explain my observation that >> there are more anti-social and aggressive people in spamcop.mail and >> spamcop that one would expect? Or that there are fewer in >> spamcop.social compared to spamcop.mail and spamcop? >> >> > ***we're in .social for the fun of it - we generally don't give a rats > arse about anything worth fighting over.... ;> There are way more people in the other groups. They deal with "important" subjects. Nobody is allowed to post about "important" subjects here. This is meant to be a oasis from the big bad battle. And yeah, who is going to get upset about most of the stuff in here. Well, I do think that most of you all are completely wrong about pretty much everything, but it is still amusing. And if you can't take a joke, you better find somewhere else to hang out. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:40:40 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:40:40 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b2994r$t30$10@news.spamcop.net... > >IMHO, that is not a valid reason for rejecting the usefulness of the Myers > >Briggs Test. IIUC, intuitive people simply *prefer* to view things > >intuitively, but if necessary, can use their sensing abilities. And the > >same goes for all the other attributes - because I am "introverted" does not > >mean that I can not speak in public, for instance. Perhaps you had a > >difficult time understanding the preciseness of the difference between > >bounces and replies because you were not using your sensing abilities to > >"carefully observe" the facts. Often, I believe, intuitive people are not > >good spellers. That doesn't mean all intuitive people are not. The > >observation that some people view the world intuitively is a valid scientifc > >observation. > > I view introversion as a valid description of personality. > > I view intuition as a description of how our brain picks up on and > sythesizes subtle clues that we may not even be aware of, but that > people who view the world intuitively and ignore evidence are just > plain wrong. Which is what I thought I said. > The reason *you think* I had a difficult time understanding the > preciseness of the difference between bounces and replies is that > the term "bounce" is not found anywhere in the RFCs, that morons > (not you) were insisting that I was talking about something other > than Status Codes (which are well-defined in the RFC which I > posted several times) and because I communicated poorly. No, it was just an illustration of how intuition *could* screw up our communication. You, if it were, were using imprecise terms that the sensing people got confused about. It happens to me all the time. I think I am perfectly clear, but the sensers have to be precise. [..]> Confusing you with a troll shows a disconnect with reality. I think > that this has happened again and again to a bunch of people. As I wrote > in my first "spamcop.antisocial?" post, I have a theory as to the reason. My theory is that ng posts are more "honest" than other forms of communication even without the body language. People say what they are really thinking. The percentage of jerks is probably about the same as real life, but perhaps those who don't deal with the public don't realize that. > >Being naturally a feeling person and therefore having had to learn how to > >deal with my feelings in situations such as that, I didn't let it bother me > >or tried to fix it > > You just described my approuach to just about everything: Try To Fix It. > Very insightful, as usual. (there has to be an intuition joke here > somewhere...) or a Men are from Mars ;) It's just practice because my husband always tries to "fix" it. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:47:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:47:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931EB25B85E51charles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > > > If he hasn't plonked me, how come he answered everyone else? > > Ah. Mmm. Uh. Er. Hasn't he, then? Sure he did - over in the main > group. 8:05 AM today he replied to you in "Re: Is mail bombing [...]" > with: > "Wise words indeed." You are right. I was still waiting for him to admit the wisdom of another post - but then I have forgotten what that was now. At this point, no one would consider that I had any sense at all La La La. Time for home and a bourbon. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:52:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:52:43 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Heidi" a écrit dans le message de news: b29703$131$1@news.spamcop.net... [...] > **If a soul is what gives them the ability to clean up after themselves, > then I'd say engineers don't have one (says me, still trying to get the > coffee stain out of the brand new rug because some hosebag spilled his > coffee and made no attempt to clean it up.......grrrrrrrrrrr..........) > "WHERE WERE YOU BROUGHT UP, IN A BARN???" > So why was a brand new rug put in a place where it was known that there were engineers? Tiled floor, or maybe vinyl, are much easier to clean. (Good planning takes all known facts into account.) (And I'm not an engineer but my father, my nephew and my brother-in-law are.) Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Mon Feb 10 23:50:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:50:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: [...] > > After so on, one starts to accept that one is an idiot and stops freaking > > out. > > > > I can see that. It seems like the first one would be the hardest. Then > it is just more of the same. So, wisdom isn't what you know, but more of > what you know you don't know. didn't you just post about not being serious? I mean that you stop freaking out about the past and start wearing red and purple (I don't know what men do). Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:04:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > Charles wrote: >>The first step in recovery is always the recognition that the >>problem exists... When will that step come???? > > Yiu have made a logical error. The the recognition that the > problem exists came in my first post on this topic. LOL. Let's back up the thread and check it out... Hmm. Nope, I don't see that. If "[I] on occasion fail to communicate well" is all the criticism that you're going to give yourself then you still haven't made the first step, imo. Oh, and it's cute how you put yourself in a 'nobler' category than 6 (you claim that there is "nothing wrong" with being in your class 6 and yet you use negatively charged language to describe it). So, you're thinking about writing some anti-spam software, then? > You are talking about the second step, which is understanding the > nature of the problem. Nope! That's the second step! You've got to pass the first step before you get to the second step! > I have advanced a theory. You seems to be implying that the > alternate theory that it's all my fault and that the flamers were > right is correct. I will assume that this is an invitation to > explore that possibility as opposed to the begging the question > fallacy. Ah, indeed, it was an invitation to explore that possibility. And, actually, a good piste to follow would be language use - and I'm not talking about not communicating well. I'm talking about using very aggressive language, negatively charged phrasing. It's in post 75253 from Wednesday, for example. "Looking at only costs or only at benefits is stupid." (Of course, Miss Betsy saw through this one, 'Is this a "polite" response?'.) Post 75344: > Tell me, when you read the posts in this thread, does your mind > drift in and out of ludidity? Or are you just acting > like someone who isn't paying attention for effect? Post 75308: [Brian] >> I saw it, it's just not a very good case. "the sender gets a >> bounce" is incorrect, because the sender does not get a >> bounce. The sender never uses their real address, [You] > Which part of "a message that isn't really spam, but appears to be" > are you having trouble understanding? You replied, if you can't see this yourself, in an uncivil manner. Same post: >> A bounce to an innocent person makes their life more difficult, > Bullshit. Uh. Perhaps 'I do not agree' would be more appropriate. > pretending that my arguments were never written and instead > replying to some other argument I never made is just plain stupid. Please note that -you- antagonized Brian in this post - when he was being quite civil. Shortly thereafter the two of you had a shouting match and he plonked you. What bothers me about your behavior on this issue is that you brought it up again (3 days later, after morphing - to avoid his killfile or not) thus: > What is it about Spamcop that it attracts so many who are > willing top engage in ad hominem attacks rather that discuss > the merits of an argument? So, you quoted the last of his posts and didn't quote any of the context (wherein _you_ started the fight) and you did change your posting name (so that he could see your post or not, whatever) and thus avoid his killfile, just to lay a plonk on him? > and, yes, I do see a bit of that in myself, although not to the > extent of some of the examples I have just been reading Yeah, well, so you're not very objective in regarding your own actions. Hey, whatever. No skin off my left ear. Post 75462: > You know, you are getting annoying. You just said that in your > last post, time staimed 13:00:29. Here it is 13:02:17, and you > repeat the same thing. Mabe you are so stupid that you need to be > told the same thing a couple of hundred times, but I am not. > > (Rest of post deleted unread: no point reading it another six > times.) Here you might feel that your anger is legit. _I_ see you as having the same behavior, EXACTLY, that you are berating. You did repeat yourself quite a lot in your posts and then you accuse others of doing the same thing? How are we supposed to have a dialog here? It's not by writing longer and longer posts in which we repeat ourselves many times - it's by shortening posts (oops! counter- example en cours!) and treating issues succinctly and separately. Post 75826: > I won't even comment on this one. It speaks for itself. >*plonk* Oh, please! I can't even imagine a way to talk about this post that isn't in highly negatively charged language... And once again you had changed your posting name and then plonked someone who had already plonked you! Post 75825: > If you insist on having a flamewar, go ahead and star without me. > *plonk* Interesting. Mike made some interesting points (this post is your reply to his) that could have helped you (with introspection and viewing how your posts are perceived by the level heads of the community - and mike is definitely one of those) and then you plonked him. Sigh. I could just go on and on... But if you don't even see a little bit what I'm saying by now, I don't think that you will, eh? > I am certainly open to discussing that possibility. My first > question is this, why, then, am I able to have a nice polite and > civil technical discussion with multiple spamcop newsgroup users? Because they ignored your taunts. That speaks highly of them. > Why is it that most of the people who decided to not discuss the > subject at hand but instead chose to engage in childish > name-calling have also exhibited this behavior towards others? Uh, yeah. No. I followed the thread. You started the fights and now you are trying to blame the others for the consequences? And as I see it you were the one exhibiting the childish behaviors... Now, as for the others and their behavior towards others, maybe :) Only, no. Some might be less than polite, but definitely not like in this thread... cheers! c From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:04:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:04:03 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Xupiter Mongers Deal Spam, Scams References: Message-ID: In news:b295cn$vgc$1@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio typed: > "Neil" wrote in message > news:b293rq$u68$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Borgholio" wrote in message >> news:b291en$rrt$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> You'd best dump it and go with WinMX. >> >> Try also Kazaa Lite. > > I've never trusted Kazaa Lite. They say it's spyware free, but they > may have just made it harder to spot. I use Kazaa Lite occasionally and it has no spyware. Never had Kazaa at all. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:07:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:07:00 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b29781$1gr$1@news.spamcop.net... [...] > Often, I believe, intuitive people are not > good spellers. That doesn't mean all intuitive people are not. The > observation that some people view the world intuitively is a valid scientifc > observation. Well, they call me intuitive (by 66%, if you please, my highest part-score), but I never had problems with spelling. However, you could say that I learnt spelling "intuitively" -- by reading. (When I entered grade school, 1 year early, I could read but not write. Call me genius if you will, but it was not fun to be hated by all as "the mistress's and director's pet".) [...] > It is true that online tests and other tests in magazines and books are not > very scientific and are closer to parlor games than true descriptions. My > mother had a parlor game called "I've Got Your Number" (published in the > 1930's) that was definitely "for fun" but was probably based on the Jungian > model. It was a lot of fun to do. However, IMHO, they are closer to the > "truth" than say, astrology. The value of knowing your Myers-Briggs type as > well as understanding how different types interact is that you can > understand where people are coming from. It is not a dangerous kind of pop > science and can give a general understanding of the differences in people. Those tests are OK if you take them with a grain of salt -- not as The Voice >From On High. > > However, I disagree with Charles about your problems with the news group. > When I first came to the ng, I was called a troll also, for IMHO, the same > reason you were. I had an idea and no one was giving me any "good" reasons > why it wasn't a good idea. Like you, I wasn't particularly advocating it; > all I wanted to know was why they didn't and wasn't satisfied with any of > the answers. > > Being naturally a feeling person and therefore having had to learn how to > deal with my feelings in situations such as that, I didn't let it bother me > or tried to fix it (the thinking man's approach to problems and that's a > male/female trait and I don't know if that has anything to do with Myers > Briggs). Anyway, you are right that there are different groups of people > with different foci, but there are overlaps also. And IMHIO it doesn't > matter. If you want me to "think" about it scientifically, you will have to > challenge me, ;) > > Miss Betsy BTW, what does the ending "J" stand for? (I have a "P" there -- FWIW.) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:10:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:10:38 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: In news:b2951g$v5g$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi typed: > "kram" wrote in message > news:b294jl$uni$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Since all of this crap has been going on should I be happy to >> receive 2 emails from perfect strangers saying that I could: >> >> 1) Get married to a nice girl >> 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis >> >> I mean really - should I be thinking about a sex change or something? >> >> 8-) >> > **LOL...it's always women, married/taken men and dodgy old pervs that > tell me I'm attractive - I think I should either lower my standards > or become a lesbian..... :-D Maybe you could direct them to http://www.uglyart.org/ass.JPG Shikssa told me about it. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:16:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:16:19 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Nilla" wrote in message news:b29ac8$48o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I can't argue with you on that - they are your friends.... > //I wonder what extremely good qualities could outweigh their nasty > qualities? :-)// **Who said anything about nasty? I don't like nasty people. They're very *strong* people. You can be assertive, even aggressive and still not be nasty..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:22:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:22:38 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Westminster Kennel Club dog show TONIGHT! Message-ID: ....and tomorrow night at 8 on USA.....woo! (the best night is Tuesday... ) ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:21:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:21:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.10.23.11.26.147656@sneakemail.com... > I can't remember the whole deal, but it was something more like triple > Aquarius on the sun, moon, and something else major. > > Ok, I looked it up. Sun, Mercury, and Venus. The ex was into all of > this, I've been analyzed all over the place. I sort of remember how it > all worked, but not all that well. It has been a few years. **Your ascendant and moon are important too, do you know where they are? My sun is Pisces, Moon, Mercury and Venus are all in Aquarius, but I've got this kick-ass Capricorn rising, keeps me from being a total wuss... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:26:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:26:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b29e0e$768$1@news.spamcop.net... > > So why was a brand new rug put in a place where it was known that there were > engineers? Tiled floor, or maybe vinyl, are much easier to clean. (Good > planning takes all known facts into account.) (And I'm not an engineer but > my father, my nephew and my brother-in-law are.) > *We had no choice, it was in the new office suite we just moved into. Little did I know we'd need vinyl that could be hosed down..... I can only imagine what their bathrooms look like, and thank doG I don't share one with them..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:24:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:24:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.10.23.31.14.606468@sneakemail.com... > There are way more people in the other groups. They deal with "important" > subjects. Nobody is allowed to post about "important" subjects here. **I find myself getting really pissed off when they do... ;) > This is meant to be a oasis from the big bad battle. And yeah, who is > going to get upset about most of the stuff in here. Well, I do think that > most of you all are completely wrong about pretty much everything, **EXCUSE ME? (gaspspluttercough) but it > is still amusing. And if you can't take a joke, you better find somewhere > else to hang out. *** I hope that was one...... :-D From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:29:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:29:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: You Live in * when... References: Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 05:06:41 -0800, nobod wrote: > > You live in Colorado when... > > 1. You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car. Ok, that happens, but it is more likely to be on a 40k SUV. > > 2. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he > stops at the day care center. Boulder can be a bit flaky, but not quite that bad. > > 3. A pass does not involve a football or dating. Yeah, lots and lots of passes, but the Interstate goes over the important ones now. > > 4. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail. > > 5. You and your neighbors are all on a first name basis with the > orthopedic surgeon. These I don't quite get. I must add that even though Aspen is in fact in Colorado, it is not Colorado. Carbondale, a few miles down the road from Aspen is Colorado, though. This is some list I got a long time ago (with my comments) --You thought "Californication" would be banned by Amendment 2. (Luckily, that horrible things is dead dead dead.) --You think "South Park" is a place to stop for gas on your way to Buena Vista. --You have a business degree and are frying burgers at a McDonald's in Vail. (They reserve the shift manager's jobs for those with Master's degrees.) --You have a fat tire in your refrigerator and your garage. (Fat Tire, sniff, I miss it. New Belgium, please get your distribution out here.) --You own a big dog named Aspen, Buck, Cheyenne or Dakota that wears a bandanna. --You cast out your fishing line while white-water rafting. --You've never seen the tourist attractions in your own city. (I think I was in the Denver Mint once.) --All summer you thought a redneck named "Bubby" was gonna be your quarterback. (There should probably be a huge category for the insanity of the Broncos. I really don't miss that at all.) --You are 82 years old and take up snowboarding. --Your SUV tire size exceeds your IQ. --Your real Y2K fear is running out of Celestial Seasonings tea and trail mix. --You personally wouldn't pay $10 per head to drive up Pikes Peak unless it was the only mountain on earth ... but you tell all your house-guests to do it. (I think I was up there years and years ago, but yeah, way over priced.) --You get depressed after one day of foggy weather. (Fog, what's that?) --You wear the latest fashions a year after they went out of style. --You think that formal wear is ironed denim. --North means "mountains to the left;" south is "mountains to the right; and east and west are where all those damned liberals keep moving in from. (I still can't figure out which way is West anymore. I really miss having the mountains right there all the time.) --You go anywhere else on the planet and the air feels "sticky" and you notice the sky is no longer blue. --You consider a three-piece suit to be a pair of shorts, a sweatshirt and Birkenstocks. --You see your East Coast relatives now more than when you lived there. --Your bridal registry is at REI. --You can run up 10 flights of stairs without huffing and puffing. (I've totally lost my altitude thing. I'm just an out of shape sea level person now.) --You've ever stood on solid ground and looked down on an airplane in flight. --If you have ever worn shorts and a down jacket on the same day, well even at the same time. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:27:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:27:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Peter Jensen" wrote in message news:b299ma$3k8$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hey, don't pester us with such insignificant details! :-) > After all, we are the ones that create the technology of tomorrow ... > > But engineers aren't the only people who don't bother with these things. > In Denmark we have a very famous scientist, who is often on TV. He is > probably one of the most intelligent people in the country, but he is > unable to tie his own shoes, much less take care of himself. Thank > $DEITY for his wife :-) > **Indeed...for intelligent men they feign ignorance very well..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:30:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:30:59 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" a écrit dans le message de news: b2951g$v5g$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > **LOL...it's always women, married/taken men and dodgy old pervs that tell > me I'm attractive - I think I should either lower my standards or become a > lesbian..... :-D I'm neither married, taken, nor a woman, but IMHO there is more to attractiveness than just looks. I may be atypical for my gender -- who knows? -- but I prefer by far a girl with some brains in her to a perfect "dumb blonde". Alas, the only girls with whom I've fallen in love so far were either already taken -- or lesbians. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:36:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:36:42 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:21:44 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.10.23.11.26.147656@sneakemail.com... > >> I can't remember the whole deal, but it was something more like triple >> Aquarius on the sun, moon, and something else major. >> >> Ok, I looked it up. Sun, Mercury, and Venus. The ex was into all of >> this, I've been analyzed all over the place. I sort of remember how it >> all worked, but not all that well. It has been a few years. > > **Your ascendant and moon are important too, do you know where they are? > My sun is Pisces, Moon, Mercury and Venus are all in Aquarius, but I've > got this kick-ass Capricorn rising, keeps me from being a total wuss... ;) Jeez, ok: Body Locat. Ret. Lati. Rul. House Rul. Veloc. Koch Houses. Sun : 1Aqu54 - 0:00' (F) [12th house] [-] +1.017 - House cusp 1: 9Aqu02 Moon: 14Gem58 + 2:41' (-) [ 4th house] [R] ______ - House cusp 2: 15Pis12 Merc: 4Aqu55 - 2:05' (e) [12th house] [F] +1.706 - House cusp 3: 25Ari32 Venu: 19Aqu48 - 1:33' (-) [ 1st house] [F] +1.251 - House cusp 4: 29Tau17 Mars: 23Lib21 + 2:15' (F) [ 8th house] [R] +0.380 - House cusp 5: 19Gem09 Jupi: 29Can08 R + 0:32' (e) [ 6th house] [F] -0.134 - House cusp 6: 11Can24 Satu: 25Pis39 - 2:10' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.090 - House cusp 7: 9Leo02 Uran: 24Vir11 R + 0:48' (-) [ 8th house] [e] -0.021 - House cusp 8: 15Vir12 Nept: 24Sco03 + 1:43' (-) [ 9th house] [e] +0.018 - House cusp 9: 25Lib32 Plut: 20Vir25 R +15:09' (e) [ 8th house] [R] -0.016 - House cusp 10: 29Sco17 Chir: 22Pis29 + 3:46' (R) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.043 - House cusp 11: 19Sag09 Cere: 24Gem01 R + 4:24' (-) [ 5th house] [-] -0.117 - House cusp 12: 11Cap24 Pall: 10Ari25 -22:37' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.312 Juno: 10Leo36 R -15:52' (e) [ 7th house] [R] -0.258 Car Fix Mut TOT +:10 Vest: 15Sco47 + 7:03' (R) [ 9th house] [-] +0.394 Fir 1 1 0 2 -:10 Node: 12Tau51 R + 0:00' (-) [ 3rd house] [-] ______ Ear 0 1 3 4 M:10 S.No: 12Sco51 R + 0:00' (-) [ 9th house] [-] ______ Air 1 4 3 8 N:10 Fort: 22Gem06 _______ (d) [ 5th house] [-] ______ Wat 1 3 2 6 A: 8 Vert: 6Vir31 _______ (d) [ 7th house] [R] ______ TOT 3 9 8 20 D:12 East: 24Aqu47 _______ (-) [ 1st house] [R] ______ <:10 From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:40:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:40:15 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:50:53 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > > [...] >> > After so on, one starts to accept that one is an idiot and stops > freaking >> > out. >> > >> > >> I can see that. It seems like the first one would be the hardest. Then >> it is just more of the same. So, wisdom isn't what you know, but more >> of what you know you don't know. > > didn't you just post about not being serious? I mean that you stop > freaking out about the past and start wearing red and purple (I don't know > what men do). > > Miss Betsy Hmm, I guess I need a few more years then. I don't think I own anything that is red. A few purple things though. But you mean you have to wear them together, right? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 00:50:10 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:50:10 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:24:46 -0500, Heidi wrote: >> This is meant to be a oasis from the big bad battle. And yeah, who is >> going to get upset about most of the stuff in here. Well, I do think >> that most of you all are completely wrong about pretty much everything, > > **EXCUSE ME? (gaspspluttercough) > > but it >> is still amusing. And if you can't take a joke, you better find >> somewhere else to hang out. > > *** I hope that was one...... :-D I don't use smiley faces. You gotta figure that one out on your own. I laughed when I wrote it though. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:05:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 02:05:23 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Heidi" a écrit dans le message de news: b29g6h$8np$1@news.spamcop.net > "Peter Jensen" wrote in message > news:b299ma$3k8$1@news.spamcop.net... [...] > > But engineers aren't the only people who don't bother with these things. > > In Denmark we have a very famous scientist, who is often on TV. He is > > probably one of the most intelligent people in the country, but he is > > unable to tie his own shoes, much less take care of himself. Thank > > $DEITY for his wife :-) > > > **Indeed...for intelligent men they feign ignorance very well..... It's not that they aren't intelligent, they are just "unworldly". Remember Auguste Piccard, the scientist who went first in the stratosphere with a balloon (1931), and later built a vehicle for exploring the ocean bottom? The man was a living legend. I remember a conversation with his assistant, Paul Kipfer (who went with him in the stratosphere when young, but was already an old man when he told me, maybe 50 years later): he said it was amazing how Prof. Piccard thought of the least possible detail when planning an experiment: he was "better safe than sorry". For instance, the cabin under the balloon was made of aluminium. Now some of the instruments contained mercury, and mercury reacts with aluminium. So he had the interior bottom of the cabin painted with a paint resistant to mercury, just to avoid explosive decompression in case an instrument should break and spill its mercury on the cabin bottom. Also, they were supposed to come down by deflating the balloon by means of a rope; but ropes sometimes jam. So he asked himself: How far will that balloon go if the rope jams? -- and took compasses to a map of Europe to see where they might fall. There were glaciers in that radius; so he had two pairs of ice-shoes added to the payload -- and such shoes don't come light. Now as it happened, they did break a barometer, the rope did jam, and they did end up on a glacier... But that same Piccard would often get out of his home with socks of different colours, and forget his coat or his umbrella, to the point that one of his daughters was charged with inspecting him every morning before he left home, to see if he hadn't forgotten any important piece of clothing. And before him, there had been Ampère, who was equally legendary for his distraction. I think it's him who, thinking of a problem while walking on the street, suddenly found the solution -- and started writing it on the back of a horse-drawn cab that happened to be parked there. Now while he was writing, the cab got a customer, and -- giddyap! -- started off. So he ran after the cab, still writing his formula... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:06:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:06:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:50:49 +0100, Nilla wrote: > "Heidi" skrev i meddelandet > news:b2974a$1bd$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Nilla" wrote in message >> news:b28o3n$k0h$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > >> > >> > There is nothing aggressive in an Aquarian..... >> >> **I beg to differ...most of my friends are Aquarian, for some odd >> reason, and while they have some extremely good qualities (otherwise >> they wouldn't be my friends), I have never known more stubborn, >> aggressive (mostly passive), doggedly determined people in my life. >> > I can't argue with you on that - they are your friends.... //I wonder > what extremely good qualities could outweigh their nasty qualities? > :-)// > > I would have had big problems with the doggedly determined people. There > is too much one-eyedness in this world. People who jump into conclusions > and then are too stubborn to change their minds... They only see what > they decided to see. Aggressive people also turns me off, passive or > not. > > Nilla I tend to think of it as head in the air and sort of detached. Passive aggressive, yeah, I've got that, somewhat. The determination, that's more off on some goal that only I know, not even one that makes much sense either. Well, that's probably the independence. But I've been called cold, rebellious, etc before too. A lot of that might just be a failure to communicate. My sister and her husband are both Aquarius. I've made the mistake of going outside of that before. I can't imagine being with anybody else than who I am with now, but she is Aquarius too. It seems like you need to be one to understand one. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:39:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:39:02 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Westminster Kennel Club dog show TONIGHT! References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b29fsk$8kp$1@news.spamcop.net... > ....and tomorrow night at 8 on USA.....woo! (the best night is Tuesday... ) > ;) D'oh! My mom's Cavalier King Charles Spanniel loves to watch the dog show (actually he just loves to bark at the dogs). Too bad my parents are in Arizona right now and the boys are at their doggie hotel for the week. Maybe their kennel has tv? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:42:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 19:42:41 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] doggie clip References: Message-ID: wrote in message news:mailman.1044892625.15439.spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net... > Hi, > I'm trying to get the doggy dancing up and can't get it. > If you still have it would you please e-mail it to me. > thanx, > dog lover Speaking of dancing dogs, anybody catch King Of The Hill last night? An entire episode devoted to dancing with dogs. My god was TV boring last night! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:42:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:42:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: You Live in * when... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.11.00.29.43.293860@sneakemail.com... > --North means "mountains to the left;" south is "mountains to the right; > and east and west are where all those damned liberals keep moving in from. > (I still can't figure out which way is West anymore. I really miss having > the mountains right there all the time.) I liked it in Hawaii where directions were based on landmarks. "go Diamond head for three miles" IIRC. > --You've ever stood on solid ground and looked down on an airplane in flight. Now, that would be a really neat thing to do! Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:48:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Guy Macon! > Charles wrote: >>I could just go on and on... But if you don't even see a little >>bit what I'm saying by now, I don't think that you will, eh? > > Actually I do see what you are saying. You have some quite valid > points there, even if you have decided a priori that I won't see > them. Oh? Have I? Hmm. Should I ignore that or challenge it? What was it, again, that I've decided, 'cause I can't, uh, say for sure, myself, what it was again :) (You know, I might not be very funny to other people, but, dang, I'm rof here...) Ok, seriously, I was trying to be light about the subject (I was quoting Laurie Anderson before the elipsis, but only in my head) and then (honest!) trying to be somewhat brief in the second part and I truly and honestly and whatever believe that what I wrote there... So, uh, what was the question again? (rofl, again. sigh. 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Have you changed posting addies? Or, is this some other Craig??? Ah... Oh, the headers look awfully familiar... I guess that we'll have to accept you on that basis :) Hey! OT! Doood! I went from 94+% organic to 99+% organic in my left- coast-style red ale! Only, sh|te, now it's fizzy! ARRRRG! (At least it still tastes great!) How's trix up your way? Say, I don't believe that you've told us about how much you love your new place (you only said something about some girl - and, heck, we all know about girls, uh, right?). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 01:56:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 20:56:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b29i5m$8mp$15@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Miss Betsy wrote: > > >My theory is that ng posts are more "honest" than other forms of > >communication even without the body language. People say what they are > >really thinking. The percentage of jerks is probably about the same as real > >life, but perhaps those who don't deal with the public don't realize that. > > Interesting theory, and one that describes what you see in most > newsgroups quite well. On the other hand, any newsgroup anywhere > that has spam as a subject attracts a much higher percentage of > posters who post articles that consist only of insults. Do you > have a theory as to why this is so? > Because anyone who has become interested enough in spam to converse in a newsgroup about it is angry about it for one reason or other - except for those who are dealing with spam as a secondary problem in their business (like sys admins). And they are helpless - particularly the small businessman who doesn't want to change his address and the Class [6] people who don't have servers. You'd better believe that if I had my own server that I would block att and tell any correspondents that used att that they were supporting spammers! And helplessness causes anger. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:04:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:04:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: > Hmm, I guess I need a few more years then. I don't think I own anything > that is red. A few purple things though. But you mean you have to wear > them together, right? When I am an old woman I shall wear purple With a red hat which doesn't go, and doesn't suit me. skip a few lines I shall go out in my slippers in the rain And pick the flowers in other people's gardens And learn to spit. skip a few more lines But now we must have clothes that keep us dry and pay our rent and not swear in the street skip some more lines But maybe I ought to practise a little now? So people who know me are not too shocked and surpised When suddenly I am old, and start to wear purple. It's a poem by Jenny Joseph. There is even a luncheon club where all the women wear red and purple hats. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:05:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:05:15 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "Heidi" a écrit dans le message de news: b2913l$rgd$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > **I wish you were at a place where you weren't emotionally died to this > dickhead, so you could calmly sit back and sarcastically make fun of his > appalling behavior, to his face. You can't help but be hurt because you > are emotionally involved, and the hurt and anger pretty much override any > logic. His behavior, while obnoxious, is very amusing, because you KNOW > this is all going to come back and bite him in the arse. You actually > did get the better end of this deal, look how much better off you are > than the slag, she's got a cheating lying bastard on her hands, you have > a new place, at his expense, free and clear of any more of his crap. > They both did you a beeeeeg favor.... > > I still wish there was a place you could buy crabs......gotta get some > homeless bum with a skin condition to come and occupy his bed for a few > nights... :-D Yeah, well, dear KK -- d'you know what? Get an army cot to your new place fast so you won't have to live with the dickhead anymore. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:10:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:10:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b29er7$7s2$1@news.spamcop.net... > "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: > b29781$1gr$1@news.spamcop.net... > [...] [..]> Well, they call me intuitive (by 66%, if you please, my highest part-score), > but I never had problems with spelling. However, you could say that I learnt > spelling "intuitively" -- by reading. (When I entered grade school, 1 year > early, I could read but not write. Call me genius if you will, but it was > not fun to be hated by all as "the mistress's and director's pet".) One of my daughters deliberately got C's to avoid that. The other adapted in other ways, but she would know exactly what you are talking about. > [...] > BTW, what does the ending "J" stand for? (I have a "P" there -- FWIW.) J is for judgmental; P is for perceptive I forget the definitions but they aren't what one generally thinks of judgmental and perceptive. Basically J's like order and P's like spontaneity. I can't find my book right now. My favorite description is that P's think deadlines are when you start a project. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:14:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:14:57 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b29l60$c4p$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > Because anyone who has become interested enough in spam to converse in a > newsgroup about it is angry about it for one reason or other - except for > those who are dealing with spam as a secondary problem in their business > (like sys admins). > And they are helpless - particularly the small businessman who doesn't > want to change his address and the Class [6] people who don't have > servers. You'd better believe that if I had my own server that I would > block att and tell any correspondents that used att that they were > supporting spammers! And helplessness causes anger. > > Miss Betsy Hm. Interesting theory again. I for one don't feel helpless about spam now that I've found SpamCop (though that non-helplessness could be just an illusion). And I don't have a server -- just an ADSL connection. But somehow I have the nagging feeling that all this discussion would be more on-topic in the spamcop newsgroup. We're discussing spamfighting and spamfighters after all, and this particular NG is supposed to be free of the mundane preoccupations related to spam... Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:34:01 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:34:01 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b29lvu$ch1$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > J is for judgmental; P is for perceptive I forget the definitions but > they aren't what one generally thinks of judgmental and perceptive. > Basically J's like order and P's like spontaneity. I can't find my book > right now. My favorite description is that P's think deadlines are when > you start a project. > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user I like that ting about deadlines. That's how I lost my last client when I worked as a freelance translator by the way -- and went into depression to boot. As for the J, mentally putting people into nice well-ordered pigeonholes is not my cup of tea, so I suppose they were right, in that one dimension at least. You said in an earlier post that I like bringing order out of chaos, and in a sense it is true; but to me it means, maybe, making oneself familiar with the chaos, and hopefully someday discovering the underlying order (the scientist's mindset, or even the mystic's), not rearranging the chaos into an arbitrary predefined order (the scholastician's, or the despot's, mindset) -- IYSWIM. I still don't rightly understand why those medievalists put me into the "Bishop" category; but then, while doing the test I found several questions ambiguous or synonymous with other questions -- and of course there was no one from whom I could have asked a clarification about what this or that particular question meant. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:37:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 03:37:30 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b29lke$ca7$1@news.spamcop.net [...] > It's a poem by Jenny Joseph. There is even a luncheon club where all the > women wear red and purple hats. > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user And color their hair purple, to be sure? Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 02:54:03 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:54:03 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. In-Reply-To: References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: Antoine J. Mechelynck wrote: > "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: > b29lke$ca7$1@news.spamcop.net > [...] > >>It's a poem by Jenny Joseph. There is even a luncheon club where all the >>women wear red and purple hats. >> > And color their hair purple, to be sure? > I thought it was blue hair. I don't think I would look very good with blue hair myself. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 04:11:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:11:29 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: You Live in * when... References: Message-ID: <3E4877F1.F9FEAF42@spamcop.net> nobody@spamcop.net wrote: > You Live in the Deep South when... > 2."Y'all" is singular and "all y'all" is plural. No southerner has ever used to word "y'all" as singular. The only time I've ever heard "y'all" as plural is when a non-southerner is attempting to speak in a fake, grossly overdone southern accent. > You live in the Midwest when... > > 1. You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name. > > 2. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor. > > 3. You have had to switch from "heat" to "A/C" on the same day. > > 4. You end sentences with a preposition: "Where's my coat at?" > > 5. When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, "It was > different!" All of these also tend to be true of parts of the south. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 04:39:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:39:36 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: | 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis Didn't by chance mention where you should subtract those extra two inches *from* did they? Your old boyfriend may have a new nick name, Stubby. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 04:47:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:47:43 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: | >Class [7] | > | >Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the time. | > | | An excellent addition! I would think that Class [7] would spend | more time in spamcop.social and less in other groups. Other groups? you mean there are other groups. are they as much fun? maybe I should jump ship for a bit. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 04:43:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:43:50 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Westminster Kennel Club dog show TONIGHT! References: Message-ID: | ....and tomorrow night at 8 on USA.....woo! (the best night is Tuesday... ) I've been to a few bars like that but it's usually closer to mid-night or one AM ... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 05:45:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:45:59 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: <3E488E17.D6784039@spamcop.net> Miss Betsy wrote: > J is for judgmental; P is for perceptive I forget the definitions but they > aren't what one generally thinks of judgmental and perceptive. Basically > J's like order and P's like spontaneity. I can't find my book right now. > My favorite description is that P's think deadlines are when you start a > project. I am an ENFP. I can identify with that deadline thing. I am really bad about attempting to work on something but not finding the motivation until the deadline is flying at me quickly. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 05:44:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Craig) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:44:32 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] doggie clip References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931ED4D635235charles@216.154.195.60... > Craig? Craig, is it you? Have you changed posting addies? Or, is > this some other Craig??? No, it is me. I just changed my posting address to the nobody@spamcop.net address from my Hotmail address. > Ah... Oh, the headers look awfully familiar... I guess that we'll > have to accept you on that basis :) > Hey! OT! Doood! I went from 94+% organic to 99+% organic in my left- > coast-style red ale! Only, sh|te, now it's fizzy! ARRRRG! (At least > it still tastes great!) How's trix up your way? Say, I don't believe > that you've told us about how much you love your new place (you only > said something about some girl - and, heck, we all know about girls, > uh, right?). Things up here in Chicago have been busy. Been working a lot lately. My company is configuring systems for Discover and an insurance company called CNA. I've kind of become the lead tech on those two projects, which is good and bad. I've also been doing a lot of on-site IT work at the Sears HQ out in the suburbs of Chicago. That place is amazing. It is so huge that I got lost many times out there at first. It would be kind of nice if something opened up full time out there. On the beer front, in a week or so I am going to open up my first bottle of pilsner. I can't wait to see how it turns out. I brewed it back before Christmas and bottled it in early January. It has been sitting out in my walk in freezer (one of my storage rooms off of my garage) where is has been lagering. In clearing out my beer closet in the garage, I found six bottles of my amber ale that I brewed back in September, so I am happy, as it was a great batch of beer. My next batch is fermenting right now, a German style pale ale (or as they call it, a kolsch). The new house is going great. Since this is my first house, it is teaching me a lot. I've become quite the regular at Home Depot on the weekends. And the best thing about it, I'm paying my own mortgage, not that of an apartment complex. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 06:24:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:24:36 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: <3E489724.55E55DA4@spamcop.net> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > On Sun, 09 Feb 2003 17:21:40 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > > > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > > news:pan.2003.02.09.19.15.28.630449@sneakemail.com... > > > **My god, you're not a Pisces, are you? ;) > > Nope, Aquarius. I got dreamer minstrel, and I'm a scorpio. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 07:11:42 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Borgholio) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 23:11:42 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Conspiracy Theory Message-ID: http://denbeste.nu/cd_log_entries/2003/01/Supposetherewastreachery.shtml This is truely something interesting to think about. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 12:49:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tuesday? Already? Funnies! Message-ID: [and then you wiggle the covers...] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmmix/2003/tmmix030211.gif [oops! wrong isp!] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmbou/2003/tmbou030211.gif [love thy neighbor, etc] http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030211.gif [cute little kitties] http://tinyurl.com/5nsb [yo yo yo yo (bucky da kat)] http://tinyurl.com/5nsl [heidi? does this ring a bell? LOL] http://tinyurl.com/5nsm From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:22:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:22:52 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b29net$d9h$1@news.spamcop.net... > [...] > > J is for judgmental; P is for perceptive I forget the definitions but > > they aren't what one generally thinks of judgmental and perceptive. > > Basically J's like order and P's like spontaneity. I can't find my book > > right now. My favorite description is that P's think deadlines are when > > you start a project. > > > > -- As for the J, mentally putting people into nice well-ordered > pigeonholes is not my cup of tea, so I suppose they were right, in that one > dimension at least. I knew I should have used "routine" instead of order. J's are not judgmental, but they like routine, schedules, plans. P's like spontaneity, don't like the same thing, the same way, like surprises. You said in an earlier post that I like bringing order > out of chaos, and in a sense it is true; but to me it means, maybe, making > oneself familiar with the chaos, and hopefully someday discovering the > underlying order (the scientist's mindset, or even the mystic's), not > rearranging the chaos into an arbitrary predefined order (the > scholastician's, or the despot's, mindset) -- IYSWIM. I still don't rightly > understand why those medievalists put me into the "Bishop" category NT's are often scholars, scientists, teachers. In medieval times, the church was the place where those people found a home. That's one of the scandals of the Church is that in medieval times, often the clergy were not very "religious" - shall we say? But the Church was the only place where they could study and teach and research so that's where they were. ; but > then, while doing the test I found several questions ambiguous or synonymous > with other questions -- and of course there was no one from whom I could > have asked a clarification about what this or that particular question > meant. In my mother's book, one of the questions was "do you answer these questions without hesitation or do you quibble?" That's part of your personality. Don't worry, being a Bishop does not mean that you should be one in today's world. If you really lived in medieval times, you probably would have been one of the more secular Bishops and scandalized the Church for centuries. ;) -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:23:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:23:16 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Westminster Kennel Club dog show TONIGHT! References: Message-ID: "Craig" wrote in message news:b29k7d$bis$1@news.spamcop.net... > > D'oh! My mom's Cavalier King Charles Spanniel loves to watch the dog show > (actually he just loves to bark at the dogs). Too bad my parents are in > Arizona right now and the boys are at their doggie hotel for the week. > Maybe their kennel has tv? > **I certainly hope so, what a shame to miss it. My friend's French Bulldog gets completely overwrought, he gets happily excited at seeing "his own kind", but absolutely DETESTS hairy faced dogs like Schnauzers and Bouviers, he barks and growls and runs around insanely until he's completely exhausted and has to go behind a chair to calm down. Mine slept through it....I'll have to wake them up for the hound group tonight.... ;) From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:25:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:25:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b2a08t$iom$2@news.spamcop.net... > > | >Class [7] > | > > | >Those who are here for the banter, jokes and whatever passes the time. > | > > | > | An excellent addition! I would think that Class [7] would spend > | more time in spamcop.social and less in other groups. > > > Other groups? you mean there are other groups. are they as much fun? > maybe I should jump ship for a bit. > Only when there is a *real* troll or a *real* idiot and then there can be some really clever put downs. Otherwise it is pretty dry (and .help repetitive). Much better you should stay here. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:23:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:23:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Westminster Kennel Club dog show TONIGHT! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b2a08t$iom$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > | ....and tomorrow night at 8 on USA.....woo! (the best night is > Tuesday... ) > > I've been to a few bars like that but it's usually closer to mid-night or > one AM ... > **You're saying the bar was full of dogs? Ooooooh....bad Froggy..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:27:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:27:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:b29okh$e0l$1@news.spamcop.net... > I thought it was blue hair. I don't think I would look very good with > blue hair myself. Probably won't have to worry - probably won't have enough to tell what color! -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:30:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:30:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931F4FBA54035charles@216.154.195.60... > [heidi? does this ring a bell? LOL] > http://tinyurl.com/5nsm > ***No, I hardly ever run in a dress.. :-D Thanks for the link, I'll send it on to some free-running dog friends... By the way, have I mentioned that the best groups in the dog show are on tonight? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:33:53 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:33:53 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: "YK" wrote in message news:b29f1v$7tt$1@news.spamcop.net... > Maybe you could direct them to http://www.uglyart.org/ass.JPG > Shikssa told me about it. **LOL...and then they'd say 'whoa, Heidi, never knew you were into fishnets....'.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:33:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Heidi! > By the way, have I mentioned that the best groups in the dog show > are on tonight? On the moon? No, on TV, of course. I don't have one... But you'll give us a good review, right? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:47:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:47:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:b29uvt$i0o$1@news.spamcop.net... > | 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis > > Didn't by chance mention where you should subtract those extra two inches > *from* did they? Your old boyfriend may have a new nick name, Stubby. > ****great rounds of applause for that delicious idea******** :-D From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:46:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:46:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: "Antoine J. Mechelynck" wrote in message news:b29g87$8p1$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm neither married, taken, nor a woman, but IMHO there is more to > attractiveness than just looks. ***In the big scope of things, looks mean very little in relation to character. Good character and integrity is hard to find, when you find that coupled with a great personality and a sense of humor, the package really isn't important. There's a guy here in the complex that's a perfect example, not tall, cute but not what you'd call "handsome", has great integrity, intelligence and oh, the personality - fills a room. If I were ten years younger I'd be all over him like white on rice... ;) I may be atypical for my gender -- who > knows? -- but I prefer by far a girl with some brains in her to a perfect > "dumb blonde". Alas, the only girls with whom I've fallen in love so far > were either already taken -- or lesbians. > ***As Dolly Parton said when someone asked her if she minded being called a dumb blonde, "No, because I'm not dumb, and I'm not really blonde either..." So what does it say about you that you fall for the unattainable? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:51:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:51:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: **Where's your rising sign in there? Do you know your time of birth? You need that to find out..... "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.11.00.36.35.516015@sneakemail.com... > > Jeez, ok: > Body Locat. Ret. Lati. Rul. House Rul. Veloc. Koch Houses. > > Sun : 1Aqu54 - 0:00' (F) [12th house] [-] +1.017 - House cusp 1: 9Aqu02 > Moon: 14Gem58 + 2:41' (-) [ 4th house] [R] ______ - House cusp 2: 15Pis12 > Merc: 4Aqu55 - 2:05' (e) [12th house] [F] +1.706 - House cusp 3: 25Ari32 > Venu: 19Aqu48 - 1:33' (-) [ 1st house] [F] +1.251 - House cusp 4: 29Tau17 > Mars: 23Lib21 + 2:15' (F) [ 8th house] [R] +0.380 - House cusp 5: 19Gem09 > Jupi: 29Can08 R + 0:32' (e) [ 6th house] [F] -0.134 - House cusp 6: 11Can24 > Satu: 25Pis39 - 2:10' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.090 - House cusp 7: 9Leo02 > Uran: 24Vir11 R + 0:48' (-) [ 8th house] [e] -0.021 - House cusp 8: 15Vir12 > Nept: 24Sco03 + 1:43' (-) [ 9th house] [e] +0.018 - House cusp 9: 25Lib32 > Plut: 20Vir25 R +15:09' (e) [ 8th house] [R] -0.016 - House cusp 10: 29Sco17 > Chir: 22Pis29 + 3:46' (R) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.043 - House cusp 11: 19Sag09 > Cere: 24Gem01 R + 4:24' (-) [ 5th house] [-] -0.117 - House cusp 12: 11Cap24 > Pall: 10Ari25 -22:37' (-) [ 2nd house] [-] +0.312 > Juno: 10Leo36 R -15:52' (e) [ 7th house] [R] -0.258 Car Fix Mut TOT +:10 > Vest: 15Sco47 + 7:03' (R) [ 9th house] [-] +0.394 Fir 1 1 0 2 -:10 > Node: 12Tau51 R + 0:00' (-) [ 3rd house] [-] ______ Ear 0 1 3 4 M:10 > S.No: 12Sco51 R + 0:00' (-) [ 9th house] [-] ______ Air 1 4 3 8 N:10 > Fort: 22Gem06 _______ (d) [ 5th house] [-] ______ Wat 1 3 2 6 A: 8 > Vert: 6Vir31 _______ (d) [ 7th house] [R] ______ TOT 3 9 8 20 D:12 > East: 24Aqu47 _______ (-) [ 1st house] [R] ______ <:10 > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:55:49 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:55:49 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Peter Jensen" wrote in message news:b299ma$3k8$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hey, don't pester us with such insignificant details! :-) > After all, we are the ones that create the technology of tomorrow ... > > But engineers aren't the only people who don't bother with these things. > In Denmark we have a very famous scientist, who is often on TV. He is > probably one of the most intelligent people in the country, but he is > unable to tie his own shoes, much less take care of himself. Thank > $DEITY for his wife :-) > **I used to work for someone like that - extremely intelligent, wrote his own computer programs before computers were really a household item. When his wife was away he'd show up for work in the most appalling condition, he'd wear the same clothes for a week (which tended to get very ripe by day four), and would come in with a tie askew or no tie at all, dirty holey sweater and his shoes tied with only one lace through the top set of holes..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 14:52:58 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:52:58 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: "Guy Macon" wrote in message news:b29htu$8mp$14@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bears with furniture" > **Exactly......and that's why I won't buy messy snack food like peanuts or things with wrappers or crumbs when I buy office supplies, because I know anything with crumbs is going to end up all over the floor and ground into the carpet..... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 15:21:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:21:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: In article , Heidi wrote: > **Where's your rising sign in there? Do you know your time of birth? You > need that to find out..... > Hmm, I must have cut that part out. Ok, an image, that's somewhat less search engine archivable http://home.nycap.rr.com/cnice/images/KerryAstro.png From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 15:49:07 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:49:07 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:slrnb4i58f.vvr.ye8vfghh02@mothlight.dyndns.org... > In article , Heidi wrote: > > **Where's your rising sign in there? Do you know your time of birth? You > > need that to find out..... > > > > Hmm, I must have cut that part out. Ok, an image, that's somewhat less search engine archivable > http://home.nycap.rr.com/cnice/images/KerryAstro.png **According to the Astrohelper, your ascendant is Leo...hmmm: http://home.no.net/rocker/ahelperr.html Leo Leo rising produces a personality that is generous, warmhearted, and forceful. Leo is the royal sign, and having this sign for your Ascendant gives you a regal bearing and a sense of control over most situations. You are a very open and active person, showing a very happy face when things are going well. Integrity, courage, and dignity are your chief virtues, and your "sunny," extroverted disposition helps you gain the popular following you need. Being fond of power and command, you sometimes attempt to dominate situations when it may not be called for. Even if you're not the one in charge, you carry yourself so proudly and almost reek dignity and self-assurance. You're so self-confident that you may be even a little careless at times. Though you are quick tempered, you get over your upsets as quickly. Your personality is so engaging when everything is going well, but you are less well equipped to handle adversity. You haughtily ignore persons causing conflict in your life. There is a tendency for you to overdo, at times becoming too extravagant and too daring. You are stubborn, but not in an unpleasant or disagreeable way. You are romantic and sentimental, but sometimes a little foolhardy. You appreciate what people do for you, and you are a devoted friend who will remember and repay a kindness. You have royal tastes and a sense of luxury, prompting you to spend much to keep up appearances. Your personality is on the dramatic side, steeped in pomp and ceremony, and you may look for opportunities to release a flamboyant side of your nature. 22 Jan 1967 at 7:43 Local time 00:43 GMT undefined undefined 104°56' West 39°38' North Placidus houses - Generated by Astrohelper Planets:Houses: Sun01° 19' Aquarius in 6.house Ascendant 09° 33' Leo Moon07° 26' Gemini in 11. house 2nd house 00° 45' Virgo Mercury03° 57' Aquarius in 6. house 3rd house 26° 36' Virgo Venus19° 05' Aquarius in 7. house 4th house28° 32' Libra Mars23° 08' Libra in 3. house 5th house 04° 40' Sagittarius Jupiter29° 12' Cancer in 12. house 6th house 09° 28' Capricorn Saturn25° 43' Pisces in 8. house 7th house 09° 33' Aquarius Uranus24° 09' Virgo in 2. house 8th house 00° 45' Pisces Neptune23° 60' Scorpio in 4. house 9th house 26° 36' Pisces Pluto20° 24' Virgo in 2. house Midheaven 28° 32' Aries Vertex 25° 28' Sagittarius11. house04° 40' Gemini East Point 24° 35' Cancer12. house09° 28' Cancer Aspect Bodies Orb Trine Sun/Moon 06° 07' Conjunction Sun/Mercury 02° 38' Opposition Sun/Jupiter 02° 06' Trine Moon/Mercury 03° 29' Opposition Mercury/Jupiter 04° 45' Trine Venus/Mars 04° 03' Square Venus/Neptune 04° 54' Trine Jupiter/Saturn 03° 30' Trine Jupiter/Neptune 05° 13' Opposition Saturn/Uranus 01° 34' Trine Saturn/Neptune 01° 43' Opposition Saturn/Pluto 05° 19' Sextile Uranus/Neptune 00° 09' Conjunction Uranus/Pluto 03° 45' Sextile Neptune/Pluto 03° 36' From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 15:56:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:56:50 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road? Message-ID: Why Did The Chicken Cross The Road? GEORGE W. BUSH We don't really care why the chicken crossed the road. We just want to know if the chicken is on our side of the road or not. The chicken is either with us or it is against us. There is no middle ground here. AL GORE I invented the chicken. I invented the road. Therefore, the chicken crossing the road represented the application of these two different functions of government in a new, reinvented way designed to bring greater services to the American people. RALPH NADER The chicken's habitat on the original side of the road had been polluted by unchecked industrialist greed. The chicken did not reach the unspoiled habitat on the other side of the road because it was crushed by the wheels of a gas-guzzling SUV. RUSH LIMBAUGH I don't know why the chicken crossed the road, but I'll bet it was getting a government grant to cross the road, and I'll bet someone out there is already forming a support group to help chickens with crossing-the-road syndrome. Can you believe this? How much more of this can real Americans take? Chickens crossing the road paid for by their tax dollars, and when I say tax dollars, I'm talking about your money, money the government took from you to build roads for chickens to cross. JERRY FALWELL Because the chicken was gay! Isn't it obvious? Can't you people see the plain truth in front of your face? The chicken was going to "the other side." That's what they call it - "the other side." Yes, my friends, that chicken is gay. And, if you eat that chicken, you will become gay too. I say we boycott all chickens until we sort out this abomination that the liberal media whitewashes with seemingly harmless phrases like "the other side." DR. SEUSS Did the chicken cross the road? Did he cross it with a toad? Yes, the chicken crossed the road. But why it crossed, I've not been told! ERNEST HEMINGWAY To die. In the rain. Alone. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR I envision a world where all chickens will be free to cross roads without having their motives called into question. GRANDPA In my day, we didn't ask why the chicken crossed the road. Someone told us that the chicken crossed the road, and that was good enough for us. BARBARA WALTERS Isn't that interesting? In a few moments we will be listening to the chicken tell, for the first time, the heart-warming story of how it experienced a serious case of molting and went on to accomplish its life-long dream of crossing the road. JOHN LENNON Imagine all the chickens crossing roads in peace. ARISTOTLE It is the nature of chickens to cross the road. KARL MARX It was a historical inevitability. SADDAM HUSSEIN This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on it. VOLTAIRE I may not agree with what the chicken did, but I will defend to the death its right to do it. CAPTAIN KIRK To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. SIGMUND FREUD The fact that you are at all concerned that the chicken crossed the road reveals your underlying sexual insecurity. BILL GATES I have just released eChicken 2003, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents, and balance your checkbook and Internet Explorer is an inextricable part of eChicken. MARTHA STEWART No one called to warn me which way that chicken was going. I had a standing order at the farmer's market to sell my eggs when the price dropped to a certain level. No little bird gave me any insider information. ALBERT EINSTEIN Did the chicken really cross the road or did the road move beneath the chicken? BILL CLINTON I did not cross the road with THAT chicken. What do you mean by chicken? Could you define chicken, please? THE BIBLE And God came down from the heavens, and He said unto the chicken, "Thou shalt cross the road." And the chicken crossed the road, and there was much rejoicing. COLONEL SANDERS I missed one? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 16:54:33 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:54:33 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A cheerful note? References: Message-ID: In news:b29uvt$i0o$1@news.spamcop.net, Frog Prince said something that sounded like: || 2) Add 2+ inches to my penis | | Didn't by chance mention where you should subtract those extra two | inches *from* did they? Your old boyfriend may have a new nick name, | Stubby. ROFL - I didn't think of that ;) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 16:58:59 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:58:59 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b2b0tj$588$1@news.spamcop.net... [...] > Don't worry, being a Bishop does not mean that you should be one in today's > world. If you really lived in medieval times, you probably would have been > one of the more secular Bishops and scandalized the Church for centuries. ;) > > -- > Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user Oh, don't worry, I don't. One of the places where I'd liked to have lived would have been the "Abbaye de Thélème" as described by Rabelais. That was an abbey for "moines et moinesses" (monks of both sexes), its motto was "Fay ce que voudras" (Do as thou wilt), and love (including carnal love) between its inhabitants was expressly encouraged by its Rule. Alas, I don't know where my Rabelais has gotten itself lost, but the pages describing Thélème come immediately after the Picrocholic wars, in the Gargantua I think. As role models, I would prefer Erasmus (and his "Laus Stultitiae" -- In Praise of Folly, IIUC) to Dante. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 17:10:13 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:10:13 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: In news:b29iab$8mp$16@news.spamcop.net, Guy Macon said something that sounded like: This post is meant for educational purposes only Do you think you left anything out? How about: Contains 10% Fruit Juice ? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 17:41:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:41:27 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931F4FBA54035charles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | [cute little kitties] | http://tinyurl.com/5nsb When I read that one this morning, I thought to myself "wanna bet that Charles posts this one today?" :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 17:55:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:55:24 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931F61326820Dcharles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was Heidi! | | || By the way, have I mentioned that the best groups in the dog show || are on tonight? | | On the moon? No, on TV, of course. I don't have one... But you'll | give us a good review, right? If you are interested, they are posting the results, as they are judged, on the Westminster site: http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/results03.html http://tinyurl.com/5o9x -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 18:02:55 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:02:55 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Preparedness Message-ID: The boss just handed out the new FEMA Guide to Citizen Preparedness. No explanation as to *why* he did this......you think he's trying to tell us something? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 18:15:16 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Preparedness References: Message-ID: In article , kram wrote: > The boss just handed out the new FEMA Guide to Citizen Preparedness. No > explanation as to *why* he did this......you think he's trying to tell us > something? > Last week, our entire division at work prepared contingency plans and sent out questionaires as to who was in the reserves and were at risk to be called up and mess up somebody's project schedule. My smart ass answer to my manager was something like the only way I would end up in Iraq was if somebody broke into my house in the middle of the night and kidnapped me and dragged me over there. Even then, I would figure out how to get out. And I'm well past the draft age. So, her response was so I'll put you down as low risk then. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 18:38:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:38:06 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Preparedness References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b2bdls$eu8$1@news.spamcop.net... > The boss just handed out the new FEMA Guide to Citizen Preparedness. No > explanation as to *why* he did this......you think he's trying to tell us > something? > I heard the tail end of a news report on the radio that said citizens should have lots of plasic sheeting and duct tape to be prepared. I'm sure about the duct tape, but may have misheard the plastic sheeting. That wasn't all you should have, either. We always have a good supply of duct tape and at least some plastic sheeting because our windows are drafty. When I was a child, it was bomb shelters in the ground. Somehow a fight over my duct tape does not seem like it would be as dramatic as a fight to get into my bomb shelter - it would have to be more of a comedy than a drama - especially since all the duct tape jokes would be going through one's mind. It is sobering, in reality, to think that we may really be at war soon. I keep hoping that someone will back down enough so that we can get rid of any weapons that would cause mass destruction of that scale. Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 19:16:38 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:16:38 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b2bd7p$ekj$1@news.spamcop.net... > If you are interested, they are posting the results, as they are judged, on > the Westminster site: > http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/results03.html > > http://tinyurl.com/5o9x > **Ooh, thanks for the reminder! I just found my friend Lena and her dogm (there's a photo!) in the Sporting/Spinoni group, Rufus de Morghengo, unfortunately no results yet and no Borzoi either... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 19:30:46 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:30:46 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:b2bi1e$hu0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > **Ooh, thanks for the reminder! I just found my friend Lena and her dogm > (there's a photo!) in the Sporting/Spinoni group, Rufus de Morghengo, > unfortunately no results yet and no Borzoi either... **Edit that, she won Best of Opposite! Woo hoo.....! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 19:33:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:33:21 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > When I read that one this morning, I thought to myself "wanna bet > that Charles posts this one today?" Huh. Go figure. But, you know, it sure looks like I end of posting a lot of the same ones every day... Faves include (not in order): - Rose is Rose - Get Fuzzy - Non Sequitur - M. Goose & Grimm - User Friendly Often pretty darned funny, but not quite faves (and not quite in order): - Rhymes with Orange - Boondocks - Heart of the City - Fox Trot Way wacky - sometimes funny but mostly not: - Ballard Street - Bound and Gagged - Cats with hands - Close to home - Cornered (Oops! Forgot today's? [like spam?] ) - Drawing for a crowd - anything by Joe Martin (there are a lot of them) - Go figure - Mixed media - Over the hedge (ok, you can have today's, too [that cute girl] ) - The duplex Sometimes posted internally but usually not to the NG: - Dilbert - For better or for worse - ziggy - adam - arlo and janis - james So, what does that leave? Uh. Zits. But I can't view that with my browser/preferences (I think it's on king features - whatever, the web site is evil). From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 19:34:54 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:34:54 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > If you are interested, they are posting the results, as they are > judged, on the Westminster site Wow! Cool! Thanks! What time is that? I could point my browser there and set it to have, say, a 30s refresh... (I am so not funny sometimes. Sigh. I am still laughing, but I readily acknowledge the unfunniness of it...) 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Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > http://tinyurl.com/5o9x Ew! The non-sportings are gross! I mean, I started looking in the working category and those are some darned fine lookin' dugs... And then I worked my way up the list to arrive at Ew, ew, ew! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 19:54:56 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:54:56 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931F94EE7B0ABcharles@216.154.195.60... > Ew! The non-sportings are gross! I mean, I started looking in the > working category and those are some darned fine lookin' dugs... And > then I worked my way up the list to arrive at > > > > Ew, ew, ew! **Totally agree, they take a nice dog and make it look ridiculous. OTOH, the French Bull and the Bulldog last night were really nice dogs.... http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/frebulld_r.html no photo of the Bulldog, but look at the French Bull, very cute! You wanna talk yucky, the toy group.......bleh....yappy little anklebiters.... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 20:14:45 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:14:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spam You Silly References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Andy! > I'm not sure whether this site has been mentioned here before, I > couldn't find it anyway. > > http://www.spamyousilly.com/ > > I haven't tried it, and I don't intend to... > > Andy > > > I didn't try it either, but it did lead me to : http://www.jesusdressup.com/ From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 20:27:36 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:27:36 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Why some people should not play "strip" twister Message-ID: http://www.jillsjokeline.com/twister.html -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 20:20:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spam You Silly References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Charles! > http://www.jesusdressup.com/ And on and on. How about, "Sam feels safe"? http://samandfriends.netfirms.com/safe.htm From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 20:44:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:44:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spam You Silly References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931F9C26BA6F7charles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was Charles! || http://www.jesusdressup.com/ That is just plain *weird* | And on and on. How about, "Sam feels safe"? | | http://samandfriends.netfirms.com/safe.htm I like that one! A great way to tell someone how you *really* feel. How 'bout instead of *plonk* just send someone to that site? -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:00:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:00:23 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:b2bi1e$hu0$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "kram" wrote in message | news:b2bd7p$ekj$1@news.spamcop.net... || If you are interested, they are posting the results, as they are || judged, on the Westminster site: || http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/results03.html || || http://tinyurl.com/5o9x || | **Ooh, thanks for the reminder! I just found my friend Lena and her | dogm (there's a photo!) in the Sporting/Spinoni group, Rufus de | Morghengo, unfortunately no results yet and no Borzoi either... Lots of "Morghengo" names there...that's some family :) -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:01:17 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Spam You Silly References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > How 'bout instead of *plonk* just send someone to that site? Hmm... Possible dialog... troll: $%*@#&##$!! you: so, I bet you feel pretty safe in your assumptions there, huh? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:02:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:02:23 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why some people should not play "strip" twister References: Message-ID: "kram" a écrit dans le message de news: b2bm55$kjn$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://www.jillsjokeline.com/twister.html > > -- > KK > == > Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. > > Why is it that most of these amateur photographs always appear so dark on my screen? With brightness +100 it is much better. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:05:30 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:05:30 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:b2bis2$ieg$1@news.spamcop.net, Heidi said something that sounded like: | "Heidi" wrote in message | news:b2bi1e$hu0$1@news.spamcop.net... || || **Ooh, thanks for the reminder! I just found my friend Lena and her || dogm (there's a photo!) in the Sporting/Spinoni group, Rufus de || Morghengo, unfortunately no results yet and no Borzoi either... | | **Edit that, she won Best of Opposite! Woo hoo.....! Your girls are under "Hounds" and they have a winner....DC Majenkir Raynbo's Dazzle - but no pic yet -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:16:57 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:16:57 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: In news:b29lov$cfg$1@news.spamcop.net, Antoine J. Mechelynck said something that sounded like: | Yeah, well, dear KK -- d'you know what? Get an army cot to your new | place fast so you won't have to live with the dickhead anymore. | | Tony. Well... we are going furniture shopping tonight...so as soon as my friend is done with the painting and stuff, I'll have furniture delivered. On that note, remember that Romeo is paying for everything, my horoscope for today: TAURUS (April 20-May 20). Loved ones want to spend money on you, though you might feel a little guilty accepting thei r graciousness. No need for that. Your contribution to others is valuable, and you should be willing to see it that way. Practical matters, such as keeping the furniture clean or keeping the car in working order, might take up most of your time tonight. The right tools cut your effort in half. Evening hours are well spent balancing the checkbook. ~~ HA! HA! -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:17:32 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:17:32 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b2bon2$mgn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Your girls are under "Hounds" and they have a winner....DC Majenkir Raynbo's > Dazzle - but no pic yet > ***I found one on another show site, she's pretty.... http://www.european-borzoi.de/veranstaltungen/bcgny_specialty021012.htm From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:23:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:23:20 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b2bo2l$m5j$1@news.spamcop.net... > Lots of "Morghengo" names there...that's some family :) > **She went all the way to Italy to get him and another puppy, old bloodlines, which they don't have here because it's such a new breed, there are already a lot of health problems because of the inbreeding. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:28:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:28:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Getting Dumped References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:b2bp1m$mop$1@news.spamcop.net... > Well... we are going furniture shopping tonight...so as soon as my friend is > done with the painting and stuff, I'll have furniture delivered. ***Get leather. And the entire bedroom suite...in solid oak... GET EVERYTHING :) On that > note, remember that Romeo is paying for everything, **....and don't forget to verify on paper that he transferred ownership to you - that way if he defaults on the credit card bill they won't come and repo your furniture. my horoscope for today: > > TAURUS (April 20-May 20). Loved ones want to spend money on > you, though you might feel a little guilty **guilty my a$$ !! accepting thei r graciousness. ***His what? Excuse me? If he had any of that you wouldn't be going shopping.... No need for that. **Damn straight...... The right tools cut your effort in half. ***A very sharp instrument poised over the groinal area will suffice.... Evening hours are well spent balancing the checkbook. **Mmm hmm.. "Look at all the shopping I did and look how much money I have left!" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 21:39:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:39:44 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931F941DCDCA0charles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | It wasn't me! It was kram! | || When I read that one this morning, I thought to myself "wanna bet || that Charles posts this one today?" | | Huh. Go figure. But, you know, it sure looks like I end of posting | a lot of the same ones every day... | Faves include (not in order): | So, what does that leave? Uh. Zits. But I can't view that with my | browser/preferences (I think it's on king features - whatever, the | web site is evil). That pretty much sums up what I read every day....except you missed Jump Start and Working Daze and Speed Bump. Jeez...I spend way too much time reading comics every day. Comics.com carries Speed Bump - but it is 2 weeks behind :( Zits is pretty funny today - I read it in the paper (paper paper - NY Daily News - lunch fluff) I agree that the King Features site is pure evil....grrr bypass the kingfeatures site: http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/comics/zits.shtm -- KK == Plan to be spontaneous tomorrow. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 22:05:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > That pretty much sums up what I read every day....except you > missed Jump Start and Working Daze and Speed Bump. > Jeez...I spend way too much time reading comics every day. Ah, but, yeah. I keep up on jump start (for some weird reason) but never post links internally or here 'cause, well, it's just not that funny, eh? Speed bump comment below. Working daze... Hmm... Ah, I see. Well, right. See comment for speed bump, below. And, why do you spend a lot time? Does it take you a while to get the jokes? (Sorry! jk!) It might take me 10 minutes to go through my list (which is actually longer than what I posted) but only because I'm writing up lists as I go along... (Opera has a nifty feature that opens all of the sites up at once. There is maybe a 30s delay while RR catches up with that then I can just check out the strips and zap the windows pretty easily... And you said that you get 'em by email! So, why does it take so long to read one email? Hmmm....) > Comics.com carries Speed Bump - but it is 2 weeks behind :( Well, yeah. I never added that one to -my- list because it's already pretty darned long... But I might cut a joe martin or two off and add it for a while... Remind me to do so, or post good ones from time to time and that should have the same effect... (actually, I'd never heard of it before and it just didn't catch my eye on the day that I made my list...) > Zits is pretty funny today - I read it in the paper (paper paper - > NY Daily News - lunch fluff) I agree that the King Features site > is pure evil....grrr bypass the kingfeatures site: > > http://www.victoriaadvocate.com/comics/zits.shtm Er, nope! It sure doesn't bypass KF! That's a link straight to KF and so I get a little message, "sorry this image is currently unavailable". And even if I turn on cookies and referrer logging I still can't view it. KF sucks! grrr... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 22:21:22 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:21:22 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: In news:Xns931FADF91E5F0charles@216.154.195.60, Charles said something that sounded like: | And, why do you spend a lot time? Does it take you a while to get the | jokes? (Sorry! jk!) It might take me 10 minutes to go through my | list (which is actually longer than what I posted) but only because | I'm writing up lists as I go along... (Opera has a nifty feature that | opens all of the sites up at once. There is maybe a 30s delay while | RR catches up with that then I can just check out the strips and zap | the windows pretty easily... And you said that you get 'em by email! | So, why does it take so long to read one email? Hmmm....) Two explanations: 1) Dial Up Connection 2) Supposed to be "working" -- KK == OK, so what's the speed of dark? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 22:30:44 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tuesday? Already? Funnies! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was kram! > 2) Supposed to be "working" arg! 7(b) will get you every time! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 22:44:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:44:41 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:10:13 -0500, kram wrote: > In news:b29iab$8mp$16@news.spamcop.net, > > Guy Macon said something that sounded like: > > This post is meant for educational purposes only > > Do you think you left anything out? > How about: Contains 10% Fruit Juice ? Offer void where prohibited May contain nuts Microwave in use Subject to dealer's prep You may have already won 4 out of 5 dentists recommend New and improved Contains flavor crystals It really works Not for human consumption May contain hot liquids Contains scrubbing bubbles In the most dramatic rose ceremony ever Not for export Certified organic Professional drivers on a closed course Do not try this at home Contents may have settled during shipment Not actual size Did I miss any? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 23:19:15 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:19:15 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de news: pan.2003.02.11.22.44.35.958041@sneakemail.com [...] > Offer void where prohibited > May contain nuts > Microwave in use > Subject to dealer's prep > You may have already won > 4 out of 5 dentists recommend > New and improved > Contains flavor crystals > It really works > Not for human consumption > May contain hot liquids > Contains scrubbing bubbles > In the most dramatic rose ceremony ever > Not for export > Certified organic > Professional drivers on a closed course > Do not try this at home > Contents may have settled during shipment > Not actual size > > Did I miss any? Any similarity between characters or events in this story, and actual people or events, past or present, resides exclusively in the imagination of the reader. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Tue Feb 11 23:56:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:56:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Patriot Act Part II Message-ID: Did they miss any rights in this one? The draft legislation would reduce judicial oversight of surveillance, authorize secret arrests, create new death penalties and allow the government to revoke the citizenship of any American who is a member of -- or gives material support to -- a group designated as a "terrorist organization" by Ashcroft. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/02/11/ED173500.DTL From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:03:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Chris Willoughby) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:03:41 -0800 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: Ok, I'm lost somewhere between Iraq and Kuwait.. can you explain? :-) Chris "Heidi" wrote in message news:b29fqu$8g4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.10.23.11.26.147656@sneakemail.com... > > > I can't remember the whole deal, but it was something more like triple > > Aquarius on the sun, moon, and something else major. > > > > Ok, I looked it up. Sun, Mercury, and Venus. The ex was into all of > > this, I've been analyzed all over the place. I sort of remember how it > > all worked, but not all that well. It has been a few years. > > **Your ascendant and moon are important too, do you know where they are? My > sun is Pisces, Moon, Mercury and Venus are all in Aquarius, but I've got > this kick-ass Capricorn rising, keeps me from being a total wuss... ;) > > From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:13:18 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 00:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Patriot Act Part II References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > Did they miss any rights in this one? > > [etc, thing, etc] Ashcroft. Well, well. Wouldn't you know. Old Asscraft is doing his Noel, but there's no way this one will go through... They're (they=congress) already (YEAH!) working (it's their job) to put some really strict limitations (those are called checks) on some of the STOOPID projects funded by the Patriot Act Part I (ie. TIA). What a card! What a maroon! cheers! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:44:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:44:20 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:49:07 -0500, Heidi wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message >> In article , Heidi wrote: > You >> > need that to find out..... > > **According to the Astrohelper, your ascendant is Leo...hmmm: > > http://home.no.net/rocker/ahelperr.html > > Leo > Leo rising produces a personality that is generous, warmhearted, and > forceful. Leo is the royal sign, and having this sign for your Ascendant > gives you a regal bearing and a sense of control over most situations. > You are a very open and active person, showing a very happy face when > things are going well. Integrity, courage, and dignity are your chief > virtues, and your "sunny," extroverted disposition helps you gain the > popular following you need. > > Being fond of power and command, you sometimes attempt to dominate > situations when it may not be called for. Even if you're not the one in > charge, you carry yourself so proudly and almost reek dignity and > self-assurance. You're so self-confident that you may be even a little > careless at times. > > Though you are quick tempered, you get over your upsets as quickly. Your > personality is so engaging when everything is going well, but you are > less well equipped to handle adversity. You haughtily ignore persons > causing conflict in your life. > > There is a tendency for you to overdo, at times becoming too extravagant > and too daring. You are stubborn, but not in an unpleasant or > disagreeable way. You are romantic and sentimental, but sometimes a > little foolhardy. You appreciate what people do for you, and you are a > devoted friend who will remember and repay a kindness. You have royal > tastes and a sense of luxury, prompting you to spend much to keep up > appearances. Your personality is on the dramatic side, steeped in pomp > and ceremony, and you may look for opportunities to release a flamboyant > side of your nature. > See, this is like totally completely wrong. Generous, warm hearted, maybe, forceful, no not really. Active, sort of, open, not really. Extroverted is totally wrong. I don't want power or control. I never dominate any situation. I'm probably more of a 2nd in command rather than wanting to be in charge. Power seems boring. There are a lot more interesting things in the world to think about. I have self-confidence and assurance, but only inside. Quick tempered? No, more of a slow burn, but instead of coming out, I'll just never speak to you again and you are dead to me. I'm more lazy and cheap than extravagant and ambitious. I'm not terribly scared of things, but I don't feel a need to take risks. Stubborn, yeah, sort of in a patient way too. Romantic, sentimental, probably, but not in a showy way. Yes, I appreciate friends and I remember that. Royal tastes? I'm more spartan than anything. Appearances? I still wear a lot of clothes I had in college. If they last forever, why do I need to bother to get new clothes. I hate shopping. I've even considered putting myself on a clothes budget, you know, I have to spend some amount every few months on clothes. Dramatic? I've been accused of being pretty boring at times. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:46:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:46:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:27:32 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:b29okh$e0l$1@news.spamcop.net... >> I thought it was blue hair. I don't think I would look very good with >> blue hair myself. > > Probably won't have to worry - probably won't have enough to tell what > color! Does it count if I have no fashion sense, no idea what is supposed to go together? It is just easier to wear jeans because they go with everything. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:45:29 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (YK) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:45:29 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: In news:b2c0e7$tpf$1@news.spamcop.net, Antoine J. Mechelynck typed: > "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de > news: pan.2003.02.11.22.44.35.958041@sneakemail.com > [...] >> Offer void where prohibited >> May contain nuts >> Microwave in use >> Subject to dealer's prep >> You may have already won >> 4 out of 5 dentists recommend >> New and improved >> Contains flavor crystals >> It really works >> Not for human consumption >> May contain hot liquids >> Contains scrubbing bubbles >> In the most dramatic rose ceremony ever >> Not for export >> Certified organic >> Professional drivers on a closed course >> Do not try this at home >> Contents may have settled during shipment >> Not actual size >> >> Did I miss any? > > Any similarity between characters or events in this story, and actual > people or events, past or present, resides exclusively in the > imagination of the reader. This side up. Fragile. Shake vigorously. Batteries not included. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 00:56:52 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:56:52 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:45:29 -0500, YK wrote: > In news:b2c0e7$tpf$1@news.spamcop.net, Antoine J. Mechelynck typed: >> "Mr K. Mean" a écrit dans le message de >> >> Any similarity between characters or events in this story, and actual >> people or events, past or present, resides exclusively in the >> imagination of the reader. > > This side up. > Fragile. > Shake vigorously. > Batteries not included. May stain fabric Lather, rinse, and repeat Do not take if you are pregnant, nursing, or have high blood pressure May cause explosive diarrhea Some assembly required If swallowed, call poison control Avoid eye contact Do not shine laser in eye Don't feed the bears Your sheep was already dead It is not for everybody Joker, joker, joker Can I buy a vowel No whammy, no whammy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:02:00 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > Your sheep was already dead > ???? Your search - "Your sheep was already dead" - did not match any documents. ???? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:13:37 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:13:37 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:02:00 +0000, Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > >> Your sheep was already dead >> >> > ???? > > Your search - "Your sheep was already dead" - did not match any > documents. > > ???? Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Probably 1986, from Spin Magazine, the article on the last page. The guy was obsessed with music from all over the world. He woke up one day and realized he didn't have a single album from Albania. So, he went all over the place looking for one. He went to all sorts of records stores and finally ended up at the consulate. But that was one of the phrases in his Albanian phrase book. You know, I finally found some music from Albania about a year ago on a usenet group. It was a long quest for me too. It was kind of cool stuff. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:21:41 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! >>> Your sheep was already dead [...] > Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Probably 1986, from Spin > Magazine, the article on the last page. Got it. Huh. But pre-web and thus the search turned up nothing... Until now! > You know, I finally found some music from Albania about a year ago > on a usenet group. It was a long quest for me too. 16 years or so? > It was kind of cool stuff. Can you hum a few bars for us? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:27:21 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:27:21 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:pan.2003.02.12.00.44.14.946519@sneakemail.com... [...]> I've been accused of being pretty boring at times. Well, I don't know about other aspects of your life, but your fashion sense sounds pretty boring! The only reason I don't wear clothes I had in college is that I have outgrown them. ;( I just replaced a coat that was 10 years old (replaced the lining and had the cuffs and hem turned before I did and I am a Capricorn. Do you know why astrology might have some validity? You know that there are energy waves (some long, some short) from space. When the stars are in a certain pattern, those waves hit earth. We know that some of them do affect life forms (like lower forms of animals) so there is no reason why the longer ones that we don't measure couldn't affect us - giving us certain characteristics when we are born (or before we are born). Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:31:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > Do you know why astrology might have some validity? > You know that there are energy waves (some long, some short) from > space. When the stars are in a certain pattern, those waves hit > earth. We know that some of them do affect life forms (like lower > forms of animals) so there is no reason why the longer ones that > we don't measure couldn't affect us - giving us certain > characteristics when we are born (or before we are born). Ok, I'll bite... Might have had, up to my birth, but from that point on, they didn't (see below, but finish reading this bit first!). But I had some REALLY strong local environmental factors that had an awfully big influence on my current person... It just seems (to me, eh?) that those influences had a far larger effect than any cosmic rays... But, please note that I was immune to the cosmic rays as my parents (part of my local environment at the time, eh?) made me wear aluminum foil hats... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:48:19 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:48:19 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:27:21 -0500, Miss Betsy wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:pan.2003.02.12.00.44.14.946519@sneakemail.com... [...]> I've been > accused of being pretty boring at times. > > Well, I don't know about other aspects of your life, but your fashion > sense sounds pretty boring! > > The only reason I don't wear clothes I had in college is that I have > outgrown them. ;( > > I just replaced a coat that was 10 years old (replaced the lining and had > the cuffs and hem turned before I did and I am a Capricorn. Do you know > why astrology might have some validity? You know that there are energy > waves (some long, some short) from space. When the stars are in a certain > pattern, those waves hit earth. We know that some of them do affect life > forms (like lower forms of animals) so there is no reason why the longer > ones that we don't measure couldn't affect us - giving us certain > characteristics when we are born (or before we are born). > > Miss Betsy 10 years? I was trying to figure out the other day how old my coat is. I have a bunch of coats, but one of them, the down jacket, my main winter coat, I've had forever. I think I got it in 1980, maybe 1979. It seems to be made out of some seriously awesome nylon that even Everest couldn't phase. There is a tiny hole on the inside by the pocket, but otherwise it is totally intact. I'd still probably be wearing some of the clothes I had from Jr High if I could still fit in them. That's the thing, you buy decent clothes and they last forever. I don't know if I buy the thing from astrology about the other planets and stuff like that. It does seem to be an interesting study of human nature though, well of all the archetypes. There seems to be some truth in them. And the cycles are pretty interesting too. But I guess some of them just make sense, like the Saturn one. Hey, that one even sort of fits my idiot until 30 theory. Then the second return 28 years later, I guess that's where you start to wear red and purple. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 01:53:51 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:53:51 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 01:21:41 +0000, Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > >>>> Your sheep was already dead > [...] >> Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Probably 1986, from Spin Magazine, the >> article on the last page. > > Got it. Huh. But pre-web and thus the search turned up nothing... Until > now! > > >> You know, I finally found some music from Albania about a year ago on a >> usenet group. It was a long quest for me too. > > 16 years or so? > > >> It was kind of cool stuff. > > Can you hum a few bars for us? It wasn't an active quest. Just something that was in the back of my mind all that time. Then when Albania presented itself, I was in the right place and ready for it. And no, I don't think I could sing any of them. I wouldn't even know where to start. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 02:07:20 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Antoine J. Mechelynck) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:07:20 +0100 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" a écrit dans le message de news: b2c7rg$3kj$1@news.spamcop.net... [...] > Do you know why > astrology might have some validity? You know that there are energy waves > (some long, some short) from space. When the stars are in a certain > pattern, those waves hit earth. We know that some of them do affect life > forms (like lower forms of animals) so there is no reason why the longer > ones that we don't measure couldn't affect us - giving us certain > characteristics when we are born (or before we are born). > > Miss Betsy Yeah, sure; and those associations between Zodiac stars and character patterns were worked out more than thousand years ago, at a time when "the first point of Aries", also known as the vernal point (the position of the Sun against the stars at the instant of the spring equinox), actually was in the constellation Aries. Now the Earth's axis of rotation slowly precesses around a direction perpendicular to its orbit around the Sun, making one turn in some 25,000 years. Recently (well, recently on that scale), it was noted with great fanfare that we had entered "the era of Aquarius". This means that "the first point of Aries", which was previously in the constellation Pisces, now has entered into Aquarius. In other words, the astrological sign of Aries corresponds almost exactly with the astronomical constellation Pisces; the sign of Taurus with the constellation Aries; the sign of Gemini with the constellation Taurus; and so forth. The discrepancy will continue to increase for quite some time; and some 23 or 24 thousand years from now it will come full circle and Aries will be Aries again. Another point: My sister, when she was young, used to read her horoscope "after the fact", to avoid the "prophet's paradox" of doing it because of the action of the known prediction upon her unconscious; and she always marveled at how accurate the prediction had been... until one day she read the horoscope for the wrong sign by mistake -- and it described what had happened to her in a just as astonishingly accurate way! Draw your own conclusions; you won't sway me. Tony. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 02:29:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 02:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > 10 years? I was trying to figure out the other day how old my > coat is. I have a bunch of coats, but one of them, the down > jacket, my main winter coat, I've had forever. I think I got it > in 1980, maybe 1979. You beat me, there. I just (last week) replaced my climbing gloves. The old ones were made by Chouinard. (Chouinard went under in '89 or so - I can't rightly say when I bought mine. Sometime between '87 and '89 would seem logical.) They had lost any semblance of water- proofness and the palms had finally started wearing through... Boy, were those ever great gloves... Sad to see 'em go... But I still wear the anorak that I had made for motorcycle riding (at about the same time). It features long arms and very good shoulder movement -> the sleeves don't pull up when you hunch over the handle bars... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 03:10:24 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:10:24 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Patriot Act Part II References: Message-ID: | Well, well. Wouldn't you know. Old Asscraft is doing his Noel, but | there's no way this one will go through... They're (they=congress) | already (YEAH!) working (it's their job) to put some really strict | limitations (those are called checks) on some of the STOOPID projects | funded by the Patriot Act Part I (ie. TIA). | | What a card! What a maroon! | | cheers! don;t be too sure about the congress putting the frits on his 'joy ride' there is always the presidential edict er presidential executive order. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 03:27:50 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:27:50 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: spamcop.antisocial? References: <3e46f1e0@0123456789rasclec1.net> Message-ID: | This side up. | Fragile. | Shake vigorously. | Batteries not included. | Actual sign in/on the ceiling mirror in a Vagus hotel room. (written in lipstick no less) Objects Appear Larger than Actual Size. From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 03:40:47 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:40:47 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why some people should not play "strip" twister References: Message-ID: | http://www.jillsjokeline.com/twister.html Reminds me of Jerry Lee Lewis' song 'the streaker' "Ethel Ethel don't look ... to late she done been mooned" From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 04:26:12 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 23:26:12 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why some people should not play "strip" twister In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > | http://www.jillsjokeline.com/twister.html > > Reminds me of Jerry Lee Lewis' song 'the streaker' "Ethel Ethel don't look > ... to late she done been mooned" > You mean Ray Stevens? From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 04:27:06 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:27:06 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Why some people should not play "strip" twister References: Message-ID: | > | http://www.jillsjokeline.com/twister.html | > | > Reminds me of Jerry Lee Lewis' song 'the streaker' "Ethel Ethel don't look | > ... to late she done been mooned" | > | | You mean Ray Stevens? Yea that's the one. I knew if I came close someone would fill in the blanks. | From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 04:33:43 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 22:33:43 -0600 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For all of our (tino) engineer types References: Message-ID: | > "Bears with furniture" | > | **Exactly......and that's why I won't buy messy snack food like peanuts or | things with wrappers or crumbs when I buy office supplies, because I know | anything with crumbs is going to end up all over the floor and ground into | the carpet..... That's the reason us 'good old boys' have hound dogs. Nature's way of cleaing up the enviorment ... 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References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: Like everything else, you have to be serious about it and know in what house and who is ascending and descending to get anything uniquely personal. The explanation came from a book about why some things like astrology, perhaps, came about. An ancient example of the Myers Briggs observational science. Of course, other ancients had other ways of explaining personality differences.The space waves, however, do exist by modern scientific measurement. How much they influence higher forms of life is unknown, but they might affect them more than we think and also in ways that astrology has already indicated. The problem is knowing what is simply made up and what was observed by the ancients and might be valid indications of space wave influence. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 11:35:05 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:35:05 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: > It wasn't me! It was Charles! > Ok, I'll bite... Might have had, up to my birth, but from that point > on, they didn't (see below, but finish reading this bit first!). But I > had some REALLY strong local environmental factors that had an awfully > big influence on my current person... It just seems (to me, eh?) that > those influences had a far larger effect than any cosmic rays... But, > please note that I was immune to the cosmic rays as my parents (part of > my local environment at the time, eh?) made me wear aluminum foil > hats... Don't be so quick to scoff. There are space waves according to modern science. We don't know, any more than the ancients, how much they influence us. At one time, modern medicine scoffed at various witch doctor remedies, and then discovered that the plants (or procedures) they used really do have curative properties. So your grandchildren may *really* wear aluminum hats during certain phases of the moon! Environment does seem to have a lot of influence, but did you know that genetic characteristics endure much longer than scientists thought? Geneticists studying the long term effects of Hiroshima and Nagasaki can tell by a glance genes from either city. There might be some truth in "dour Scots" Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 11:44:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 06:44:25 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns931FDAA119617charles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Mr K. Mean! > > > 10 years? I was trying to figure out the other day how old my > > coat is. I have a bunch of coats, but one of them, the down > > jacket, my main winter coat, I've had forever. I think I got it > > in 1980, maybe 1979. > > You beat me, there. I just (last week) replaced my climbing gloves. > The old ones were made by Chouinard. (Chouinard went under in '89 or > so - I can't rightly say when I bought mine. Sometime between '87 and > '89 would seem logical.) My coat was natural fiber (wool). I still have a dress from the late 70's, but I don't wear it very often. I think it is a guy thing to hang on to favorite clothes. My husband still has boots from the 60's, I believe, and ties from before that. -- Miss Betsy, an almost new spamcop user From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 12:09:23 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > Don't be so quick to scoff. (Duely, hmm, duly chastised... Sorry... I was having fun, and it didn't look like it was too much at your expense...) Oh, but I wasn't joking - my local environment had an overpowering influence on who am I... Maybe Kerry will sing that song for you (punk anthem)... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 12:14:27 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Patriot Act Part II -> TIA is dead!!!! References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Frog Prince! > >| Well, well. Wouldn't you know. Old Asscraft is doing his Noel, >| but there's no way this one will go through... They're >| (they=congress) already (YEAH!) working (it's their job) to put >| some really strict limitations (those are called checks) on some >| of the STOOPID projects funded by the Patriot Act Part I (ie. >| TIA). >| >| What a card! What a maroon! >| >| cheers! > > don;t be too sure about the congress putting the frits on his 'joy > ride' there is always the presidential edict er presidential > executive order. Right, there are presidential edicts and executive orders. And there is a system of checks and balances to prevent abuse on the part of any of the three branches. I'll just bet that his shrubbiness has a hard time getting his excecutive order upheld... And why would I bet that such a thing -will- happen (his order and the slap it will receive)? 'Cause Congress is your friend (at least this time)! TIA is dead! C&C warning! I quote the honorable John P. Murtha D. Penn.: [On the Pentagon] "They've got some crazy people over there." I'd give you references, but I'll just bet that it's really easy to find articles on something this big! From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 12:23:25 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Charles) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > "Charles" wrote >> You beat me, there. I just (last week) replaced my climbing >> gloves. The old ones were made by Chouinard. (Chouinard went >> under in '89 or so - I can't rightly say when I bought mine. >> Sometime between '87 and '89 would seem logical.) > > My coat was natural fiber (wool). I still have a dress from the > late 70's, but I don't wear it very often. I think it is a guy > thing to hang on to favorite clothes.' ??? Hang on to? My gloves? No, but seriously, I used them all of the time - they were my gloves. And they were in fine shape, so why worry about it? I think that Kerry summed it up pretty well - we like what we have/wear well enough and we abhor shopping and there you have it! When working in an office I had to pay a little more attention (couldn't wear stained tshirts or ones with big, obvious holes) but working out of the home, heck, I'm a sight! > My husband still has boots from the 60's, I believe, and ties from > before that. Hmm. Well, yeah, I can see both of those. Ties, well, you just hang 'em on the tie rack and forget about 'em until you have to pick one out for a meeting/client/whatever. It's a little harder for -me- to imagine the boots since I'm really hard on footwear and I tend to junk shoes when the leather or sole (or both) gets worn through... So, the oldest pair of shoes in my flock is maybe five years old (and they probably won't stay in the flock for much longer - I've just got to get out and buy a nice pair of sandals first)... From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 12:48:14 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:48:14 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL> Message-ID: "Charles" wrote in message news:Xns932048D98C4BAcharles@216.154.195.60... > It wasn't me! It was Miss Betsy! > Maybe Kerry will sing that song for you (punk > anthem)... I wasn't being serious-serious. Environment does play a big part in who we are. Just knowing about red and purple can too or punk anthems (which may, or may not, be part of my environment - I don't know songs by author or tune - and if it is not famous, I probably wouldn't know it any way) (not that I object to punk rock; I just don't listen to it) (we met someone the other day who didn't know who Garrison Keillor was - now that's a different environment! and I don't think you look at the world quite the same after you've read about Mr God from Anna's viewpoint) Miss Betsy From spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net Wed Feb 12 12:57:02 2003 From: spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 07:57:02 -0500 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What is your medieval personality. References: <3E44609B.6532A629@INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com> <3E46A60F.54F50478@suespammers.org.NULL>