From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Dec 1 00:03:52 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Wed Nov 30 18:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:43:39 -0500, indigo coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : > What? They're going to ban VCRs and DVRs then too? That's insane! There's already copy protection in pre-recorded VHS tapes you buy. The V-sync signal is weak - strong enough for a TV set to latch onto it but not strong enough for another VCR or a DVD-recorder. You can play the tape but you can't record it onto another medium. Ditto with DVD-Videos - it's called Macrovision but the principle is the same. The DVD-player attenuates the V-sync signal making it impossible to make an analog copy of the DVD-Video. Ergo, there's no point in banning VCRs and DVD-recorders because the technology already exists and is embedded in them to prevent copying using these devices. Making a digital copy of DVD-Videos (and CDs) is what they want to outlaw. -- Steve Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 1 03:28:38 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 30 22:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dmlpr9$8a0$1 @news.spamcop.net: > You know what makes Santa so Jolly? > > > He knows where all the bad kids live... > _Specially_ the bad girls. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Dec 1 10:27:30 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Dec 1 04:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <4uuso15leqp5d95m66k4p0rg1cc6v374r5@4ax.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:30:14 -0500, Frank Tabor coughed into spamcop.social and left this in <4uuso15leqp5d95m66k4p0rg1cc6v374r5@4ax.com>: > History channel only runs from 4am to 6am. discovery form 3 am to 9. > They aren't as bad as they used to be. Depends where you are. They both run 24/7 here. -- Steve "Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 05:58:49 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu Dec 1 06:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: pedometer or useless facts...take your pick References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-A6B650.05291501122005@frylock.local... > In article , "Bcs1" > wrote: > > > yeah, I was surprised to say the least, when I realized how much I actually > > do walk in a day's time... > > I was mostly surprised because my day job is sitting at a computer > all day. Of course, I don't mind the walking. When I was in San > Francisco, I walked just about everywhere I needed to go, and dreamed > about not needing to drive to work every day. My husband walks everywhere also. I am surprised that you got that many steps. He tries to take the 10,000 per day and needs to walk to the PO, library, store to get them, it seems to me, and he is a pretty active person. I think I get a lot of walking in also in my job, but when I wore it once, I didn't get very much at all. He did have a job once where he walked to work - boy, was he happy! Miss Betsy From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 10:56:28 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 06:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I agree totally. When I get around to buying music online, it'll likely > be in the WMA format. I'll be converting it to MP3 and ditching the DRM > as soon as I possibly can. I don't understand. What does the format have to do with it? WMA can be just as laden with DRM as any other format. Are you talking about using other ways to bypass the protection schemes because the DMCA says that's a no-no. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 07:55:39 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 1 08:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | > | > | > Heard it on Howard's radio show this morning, FCC passed or is | > considering passing a law that would prevent cable systems from "bundling" channels | > | > together, forcing you to pay for each individual channel or | > | > something....could be wonderful or terrible, from where I sit.....I mean | > who is going to pay money for QVC , for instance? ;-) | > | > | > | Ahem. :-Þ I heard it, and my first thought was "they cable companies will | > then say that the extra cost of administering an a la carte system would be just as | > much as buying a package" and we'll be no better off. They're going to fuck us any | > way they can because there's no cable competition. I'd like to get HBO, BBCA, | > Discovery, Nat Geo, Food and Travel, but I don't need all 50 friggin sports stations that | > I never watch, not to mention all those Latin channels. | > | > What tears me is the History and Discovery etc channel running nonstop | > infomercials back to back from mid night often until 9-10 in the morning. | > | > | | | It's actually from midnight to 5am. Currently 7:47 AM here and I'm treated to a vacuumed cleaner on one channel and an air cleaner on the other. I did get cable in the class room around 5 AM but that lasted a bit more then an hour. As to QVC I have no problem with that as it delivers what it says it delivers and it kept my MIL happy for four years but still I have not use for it myself. I could do without Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton etc as well. They do, OTOH, serve me well when I get in to discussion on mandating religious instructions in the local schools. Just the mention of Professor Tilton teaching kids puts most off their augment. (Too many bad examples tends to kill their steam). From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 07:57:50 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 1 08:20:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <4uuso15leqp5d95m66k4p0rg1cc6v374r5@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Frank Tabor" | >What tears me is the History and Discovery etc channel running nonstop | >infomercials back to back from mid night often until 9-10 in the morning. | > | | History channel only runs from 4am to 6am. discovery form 3 am to 9. | They aren't as bad as they used to be. And that's somehow a Good Thing? Especially when that the time my pain cycle keeps me up the most. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 08:11:14 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 1 08:20:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <4uuso15leqp5d95m66k4p0rg1cc6v374r5@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Steven Maesslein" | | > History channel only runs from 4am to 6am. discovery form 3 am to 9. | > They aren't as bad as they used to be. | | Depends where you are. They both run 24/7 here. | Thanks for snipping BTW. What we are talking about is when the infomercials are aired. I should mention that Discovery and History are not the only ones running this aggravation. On occasion I've had them on all channels save the sports channel and cartoon channel. On Comedy Central its a bit hard to differentiate. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 13:23:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (magus kent) Date: Thu Dec 1 08:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dmkfaq$h0v$2@news.spamcop.net: > "indigo" > >| Heard it on Howard's radio show this morning, FCC passed >| or is considering passing a law that would prevent cable >| systems from "bundling" channels together, forcing you to >| pay for each individual channel or something....could be >| wonderful or terrible, from where I sit.....I mean > who >| is going to pay money for QVC , for instance? ;-) > > What are the odds (almost a sure thing) that the cable > operators will use this as a justification to raise rates? > > I can see an $8.00 "choice fee" or whatever they think they can get away with. I've been with Comcast for years, and it seems to me they want to get $50.00/month out of everybody. I started with basically all of the channels, then as they increased their rates (claiming poverty of course), I would drop HBO, then Showtime, then Cinemax. etc...running out of things to drop and the bill is still close to $50.00/month. Not that I'm too concerned about comcast going out of business..I know I can't afford to to put a bid in for Disney!...m From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 08:48:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 1 08:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmla78$lj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Merry Christmas! Why? > > Torn meniscus, on the outside and possibly on the inside as well. > Note to self: When striding along like a speeding train on the > treadmill and something hurts, don't try to "walk it off".... Ouch. Sucks getting old, eh? ;-) > Well, aren't we fun people.... What did the rheumy have to say? Not much. Did a physical exam, found nothing of note. He vehemently disagreed with my podiatrist's claims that my flat feet caused my big toe arthritis and achilles tendonitus (and achilles tear) though.....I hate it when doctors over rule other's diagnosis! He *was* highly interested in my elevated C-reactive results and is running more blood tests and a urinalysis. No, > egg allergies aren't uncommon, actually eggs were forbidden in the > elimination diet I did, didn't seem to make any difference to me but > that's the reason they're included in the "no" list, along with > wheat, dairy and sugar, they're a very common allergen. Is it only > when you eat eggs that you have trouble? When this most recent episode started 3 weeks ago I had just finished my percs (was in rehab again for my neck, remember) and I had bacon and eggs for breakfast on a Sunday, was sick as a dog that Monday. Got somewhat better during the week, on Friday I had a salad and sprinkled some boiled egg whites on it -- I got really sick that night and even threw up (and I NEVER puke). How in the hell can I just all the sudden become allergic to eggs? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 08:50:37 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 1 09:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | > You know what makes Santa so Jolly? | > | > | > He knows where all the bad kids live... | > | | _Specially_ the bad girls. Recall Santa was once a Catholic saint. (I know a cheap shot but the .social rules say if you got a shot you have to take it) As to bad girls when they're bad their still pretty good but when they're really bad ...they're terrific. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 09:22:41 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 1 09:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmmuun$qfu$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Ouch. Sucks getting old, eh? ;-) Yes, it does, and the scary thing is the right knee seems to be not far behind. There was some scarring on my posterior cruciate ligament, which I imagine must have been an old injury, and lots of stuff that was thinning, like the cartilage around my kneecap. Whoopee.... > Not much. Did a physical exam, found nothing of note. He vehemently > disagreed with my podiatrist's claims that my flat feet caused my big toe > arthritis and achilles tendonitus (and achilles tear) though.....I hate it > when doctors over rule other's diagnosis! He *was* highly interested in my > elevated C-reactive results and is running more blood tests and a > urinalysis. Is it still elevated, or did they just run it again? What's he looking for, did he say? > When this most recent episode started 3 weeks ago I had just finished my > percs (was in rehab again for my neck, remember) and I had bacon and eggs > for breakfast on a Sunday, was sick as a dog that Monday. Got somewhat > better during the week, on Friday I had a salad and sprinkled some boiled > egg whites on it -- I got really sick that night and even threw up (and I > NEVER puke). How in the hell can I just all the sudden become allergic to > eggs? Did you tell them all of this? You can suddenly become allergic to anything, unless you have some bad eggs there. If you are, and you're eating prepared things with eggs in them, like bread, sweets, etc, you maybe making yourself sick with the constant exposure. Have you had a flu shot this year? People with egg allergies need to be careful with them, because they're grown in eggs. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 09:23:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 1 09:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns971F50B1D75B1TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > A little DIY? Tee hee. Maybe I'll send or post pix or something. There > are some pretty scary things that need fixing... Is that before you get to the goat barn? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 1 14:44:16 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 1 09:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:dmlrn9$9c4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns971ED051D15C5innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dmlpr9$8a0$1 >> @news.spamcop.net: >> >> > You know what makes Santa so Jolly? >> > He knows where all the bad kids live... >> > >> _Specially_ the bad girls. >> > > Santa's a pedophile? Eww. Why else would he bounce kids up & down on his lap? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 1 14:46:37 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 1 09:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dmmvu5$r24$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > As to bad girls when they're bad their still pretty good but when they're > really bad ...they're terrific. Well, I suppose 3 out of 4 wasn't bad........ Although, it does beg the question - If you could get 3 of them right..?? ;-) [Grammar Police] From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 09:29:18 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Dec 1 10:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Subject of the day References: <438C76C4.C5CB2C3C@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <438F08BE.98D471BA@spamcop.net> Today's humorous s*** subject: Erections are still possible. deflater Seems to me that such a device might be the opposite of what you need. :-) -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 15:15:03 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 10:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? In-Reply-To: References: <4uuso15leqp5d95m66k4p0rg1cc6v374r5@4ax.com> Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Steven Maesslein" > | > | > History channel only runs from 4am to 6am. discovery form 3 am to 9. > | > They aren't as bad as they used to be. > | > | Depends where you are. They both run 24/7 here. > | > Thanks for snipping BTW. > > What we are talking about is when the infomercials are aired. I should > mention that Discovery and History are not the only ones running this > aggravation. On occasion I've had them on all channels save the sports > channel and cartoon channel. On Comedy Central its a bit hard to > differentiate. Some of that programming might originate from the local cable system too. Their contract with the network might allow them the discretion to run local programming instead of the national programming. And a comment about the pricing of the cable networks too. Keep in mind that many of the cable networks are either partially or fully owned by the cable operators and paying for the programming in some cases might just be shifting money from one division to another. Take for example what it is that Time Warner both owns and airs. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 1 15:35:42 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Dec 1 10:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dmn2eo$sfe$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:dmmvu5$r24$2@news.spamcop.net... >> > >> >> As to bad girls when they're bad their still pretty good but when >> they're really bad ...they're terrific. > > Well, I suppose 3 out of 4 wasn't bad........ Although, it does beg > the question - If you could get 3 of them right..?? > > ;-) > > [Grammar Police] > > > Took me a few tries to find that one, I guess (to me at least) when there is so many in one sentence, it hides the bad one. ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 11:08:28 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 1 11:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] John McCain's inner struggle Message-ID: I may have posted this before, but it's the SNL animation of McCain struggling to campaign for bush- it's hilarious, actually... http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002211.php From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Dec 1 11:13:36 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Dec 1 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: In article , Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > It wasn't me! It was Borgholio ! > > > I'm getting a bowling ball. :) > > I'm getting a new house... I got a rock. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 09:33:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 12:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> I agree totally. When I get around to buying music online, it'll >> likely be in the WMA format. I'll be converting it to MP3 and >> ditching the DRM as soon as I possibly can. > > > I don't understand. What does the format have to do with it? WMA can > be just as laden with DRM as any other format. Are you talking about > using other ways to bypass the protection schemes because the DMCA says > that's a no-no. I meant that I'd be converting it to MP3 format to bypass the DRM. Under copyright law, I can do that for the purposes of Fair Use. Converting a file from WMA to MP3 so I can use it on a portable player is fine. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 12:59:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Dec 1 13:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-> > I got a rock. Wow, you're engaged? Congratulations! ;) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 13:06:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Dec 1 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > Is that before you get to the goat barn? > > I wonder why you say goat... Really, a lot of people make that same error > and I'm curious to know why... Maybe I'll get some grant money and look > into it... That's weird, because I know you said sheep before. Huh.. So you're not going to start a goat cheese business then? What do you make with sheeps milk? Feta and romano, I think...yum.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 13:51:44 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 1 13:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? Message-ID: we're changing insurance companies, apparently, so far, I see that they pay 80% of surgeries, etc., none of this 100% after a certain amount is reached. I think we're getting hosed... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 13:12:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu Dec 1 16:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Crabby! Message-ID: Photos of the Crab nebula - neato! http://tinyurl.com/buy92 -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 13:20:35 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 16:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crabby! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: kram wrote: > Photos of the Crab nebula - neato! > > http://tinyurl.com/buy92 > Hmm...needs some talcum powder. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 13:22:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu Dec 1 16:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Crabby! Message-ID: Big detailed pic of the Crab Nebula - neeto! http://tinyurl.com/bc8h5 -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 16:54:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 1 16:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmmuun$qfu$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Ouch. Sucks getting old, eh? ;-) > > Yes, it does, and the scary thing is the right knee seems to be not > far behind. There was some scarring on my posterior cruciate > ligament, which I imagine must have been an old injury, and lots of > stuff that was thinning, like the cartilage around my kneecap. > Whoopee.... You may need to start swimming and quit the treadmill to take the stress off of your knees. He > > *was* highly interested in my elevated C-reactive results and is > > running more blood tests and a urinalysis. > > Is it still elevated, or did they just run it again? What's he > looking for, did he say?\ He ran it again (no results yet), and tested for a bunch of other stuff -- said the C-reactive test was only accurate 70% or the time or something. Christ, he even asked me if I was a homo! Wanted to blame my symptoms on some STD, I think (which I've never had, not even the clap). Not a terribly comfortable line of questioning, what with me sitting there on the table with nothing on but my undies and his drop dead gorgeous med student standing right next to him...... > Did you tell them all of this? You can suddenly become allergic to > anything, unless you have some bad eggs there. If you are, and > you're eating prepared things with eggs in them, like bread, sweets, > etc, you maybe making yourself sick with the constant exposure. Yeah, told the gastro guy that, he said it was very possible that was the root cause. Remember when I went on that special diet this summer to try and solve the problem and I complained on this board about how boiled egg whites (I was eating them with salads in lieu of red meat) seemed to be giving me the runs? Looks like that's been confirmed.....I did have some mayo on a sandwhich last night, no problems today so far (crosses fingers)...... Have > you had a flu shot this year? People with egg allergies need to be > careful with them, because they're grown in eggs. Good point! No, I never get flu shots. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 1 16:59:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > we're changing insurance companies, apparently, so far, I see that > they pay 80% of surgeries, etc., none of this 100% after a certain > amount is reached. I think we're getting hosed... Sounds like it. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 22:16:15 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> Borgholio wrote: >> >>> I agree totally. When I get around to buying music online, it'll >>> likely be in the WMA format. I'll be converting it to MP3 and >>> ditching the DRM as soon as I possibly can. >> >> I don't understand. What does the format have to do with it? WMA can >> be just as laden with DRM as any other format. Are you talking about >> using other ways to bypass the protection schemes because the DMCA >> says that's a no-no. > > I meant that I'd be converting it to MP3 format to bypass the DRM. > Under copyright law, I can do that for the purposes of Fair Use. > Converting a file from WMA to MP3 so I can use it on a portable player > is fine. But what I said was if, or actually when, and they will be in the future, WMA files are protected by DRM, then what? Fair use no longer exists. It has been trumped by the DMCA. They took it off the table by making it illegal to mess with the copyright protection schemes. How do you get to a fair use situation without breaking the law first? Bypassing DRM is not legal. Sony was stupid and went too far with their protection scheme and made it unpalatable. Hopefully they have shown exactly what will happen under the DMCA and there will be a move to roll it back. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 14:17:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Mr K. Mean wrote: >> >>> Borgholio wrote: >>> >>>> I agree totally. When I get around to buying music online, it'll >>>> likely be in the WMA format. I'll be converting it to MP3 and >>>> ditching the DRM as soon as I possibly can. >>> >>> >>> I don't understand. What does the format have to do with it? WMA >>> can be just as laden with DRM as any other format. Are you talking >>> about using other ways to bypass the protection schemes because the >>> DMCA says that's a no-no. >> >> >> I meant that I'd be converting it to MP3 format to bypass the DRM. >> Under copyright law, I can do that for the purposes of Fair Use. >> Converting a file from WMA to MP3 so I can use it on a portable player >> is fine. > > > But what I said was if, or actually when, and they will be in the > future, WMA files are protected by DRM, then what? Fair use no longer > exists. It has been trumped by the DMCA. They took it off the table by > making it illegal to mess with the copyright protection schemes. How do > you get to a fair use situation without breaking the law first? > Bypassing DRM is not legal. > > Sony was stupid and went too far with their protection scheme and made > it unpalatable. Hopefully they have shown exactly what will happen > under the DMCA and there will be a move to roll it back. Well then how about: Converting WMA files to MP3 so that I can play it on devices that don't support WMA? The fact that it bypasses DRM would become a "unintentional" side-effect. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 22:27:35 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> Borgholio wrote: >> >> But what I said was if, or actually when, and they will be in the >> future, WMA files are protected by DRM, then what? Fair use no longer >> exists. It has been trumped by the DMCA. They took it off the table >> by making it illegal to mess with the copyright protection schemes. >> How do you get to a fair use situation without breaking the law first? >> Bypassing DRM is not legal. >> >> Sony was stupid and went too far with their protection scheme and made >> it unpalatable. Hopefully they have shown exactly what will happen >> under the DMCA and there will be a move to roll it back. > > Well then how about: > > Converting WMA files to MP3 so that I can play it on devices that don't > support WMA? The fact that it bypasses DRM would become a > "unintentional" side-effect. You can say it however you want, but if you bypass it to play on unsupported devices, you broke the law. The law wasn't written to be friendly to alternative operating systems and devices, it was written to give copyright holders absolute control of the use of those materials. If those copyright holders decide that they don't want to support device X, then it isn't supported and screw the consumer. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 14:33:27 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> >> Well then how about: >> >> Converting WMA files to MP3 so that I can play it on devices that >> don't support WMA? The fact that it bypasses DRM would become a >> "unintentional" side-effect. > > > You can say it however you want, but if you bypass it to play on > unsupported devices, you broke the law. The law wasn't written to be > friendly to alternative operating systems and devices, it was written to > give copyright holders absolute control of the use of those materials. > If those copyright holders decide that they don't want to support device > X, then it isn't supported and screw the consumer. Isn't it a change of medium? For example, copying a CD to a cassette to play in your car is legal. Why not converting WMA to MP3 so it can play on your player? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Dec 1 17:43:59 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Skiwi (sorry guys, it's the 's' word) [Hmmmm...] References: Message-ID: In article , Skiwi wrote: > D.F. Manno wrote: > > In article , Skiwi wrote: > > > >> Note - FYI - have NAV, SpyBot, AdAware, TeaTime and SpywareBlaster (!), > >> block Java scripts except on "trusted pages" and update / use all on a > >> weekly basis as applicable... :-) > > > > I don't need any of those things. I have a Mac. > > I used to have a Mac, but then I had to go into the workforce after > college... Most of the places I've worked have used Macs. The two that didn't went bankrupt. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Dec 1 17:47:22 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tour of Paris at night References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > > > http://framboise781.free.fr/Paris.htm > > > > > > And it doesn't seem to be burning..... > > > > It does seem to be snowing, though. Very heavily. Whiteout conditions, in > > fact. > > Hm...not for me, must be fruit problem...... It's one of those Microshit-only sites. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Dec 1 23:54:41 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Dec 1 17:55:01 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:50:37 -0500, Frog Prince coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >| _Specially_ the bad girls. > > Recall Santa was once a Catholic saint. Okay then - bad altar boys... -- Steve From nobody at nowhere.invalid Fri Dec 2 00:00:12 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tour of Paris at night References: Message-ID: On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:47:22 -0500, D.F. Manno coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >> > It does seem to be snowing, though. Very heavily. Whiteout conditions, in >> > fact. >> >> Hm...not for me, must be fruit problem...... > > It's one of those Microshit-only sites. That would probably explain why Firefox bombed on me when I went to see that page. -- Steve Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 23:04:27 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> Borgholio wrote: >> >>> Well then how about: >>> >>> Converting WMA files to MP3 so that I can play it on devices that >>> don't support WMA? The fact that it bypasses DRM would become a >>> "unintentional" side-effect. >> >> You can say it however you want, but if you bypass it to play on >> unsupported devices, you broke the law. The law wasn't written to be >> friendly to alternative operating systems and devices, it was written >> to give copyright holders absolute control of the use of those >> materials. If those copyright holders decide that they don't want to >> support device X, then it isn't supported and screw the consumer. > > Isn't it a change of medium? For example, copying a CD to a cassette to > play in your car is legal. Why not converting WMA to MP3 so it can play > on your player? If I understand change of medium correctly, there is no significant difference between a cd and a mp3 copy of the cd, so the change is immaterial. I believe that change of medium is meant to cover a new derived work, meaning that the new work is different enough and original enough to constitute something that can be copyrighted in its own right. I assume that means it is meant to also protect the new work and isn't intended to diminish the copyright on the older work. Copying a cd to cassette might or might not be legal, but if a work is protected by DRM, and meant to be locked to that one medium, you have not been licensed to transfer it to another medium. The DRM is meant to control where and how you can access the material. If there are not allowances for alternative means to play it in the license agreement, then you are not allowed to do that. What you are allowed to do is at the discretion of the copyright holder and bypassing those restrictions is not allowed. I see that you probably have maybe three different choices. You can go ahead and disregard that and break the law. Or you can get the law changed. Or you can refuse to support those who do restrict their media in that way. I'm not saying that I think all of this is wonderful. I think the DCMA is a badly written law and for the most part was bought and paid for by the large media companies. I'm just telling you what I think the legal realities of the situation are. From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 15:18:57 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > > > If I understand change of medium correctly, there is no significant > difference between a cd and a mp3 copy of the cd, so the change is > immaterial. I believe that change of medium is meant to cover a new > derived work, meaning that the new work is different enough and original > enough to constitute something that can be copyrighted in its own right. > I assume that means it is meant to also protect the new work and isn't > intended to diminish the copyright on the older work. > > Copying a cd to cassette might or might not be legal, but if a work is > protected by DRM, and meant to be locked to that one medium, you have > not been licensed to transfer it to another medium. The DRM is meant to > control where and how you can access the material. If there are not > allowances for alternative means to play it in the license agreement, > then you are not allowed to do that. What you are allowed to do is at > the discretion of the copyright holder and bypassing those restrictions > is not allowed. > > I see that you probably have maybe three different choices. You can go > ahead and disregard that and break the law. Or you can get the law > changed. Or you can refuse to support those who do restrict their media > in that way. > > I'm not saying that I think all of this is wonderful. I think the DCMA > is a badly written law and for the most part was bought and paid for by > the large media companies. I'm just telling you what I think the legal > realities of the situation are. Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's Advocate. :) Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and ask point-blank if it's covered under Fair Use. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 1 23:26:12 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dmo0ck$dgs$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's Advocate. :) > Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and ask point-blank if > it's covered under Fair Use. Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid of.......... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 1 23:28:05 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dmo0ck$dgs$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> >> Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's Advocate. :) >> Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and ask point-blank if >> it's covered under Fair Use. > > Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid of.......... In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per view/listen From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 15:32:37 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>"Borgholio" wrote in message >>news:dmo0ck$dgs$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >>>Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's Advocate. :) >>>Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and ask point-blank if >>>it's covered under Fair Use. >> >>Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid of.......... > > > In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per view/listen > > How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At least if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you want. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 1 23:35:13 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 1 18:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dmo168$dgs$2@news.spamcop.net... > Porpoise wrote: >> "Porpoise" wrote in message >> news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>>Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid of.......... >> >> >> In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per >> view/listen > > How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At least > if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you want. That's while there are still such things as CDs From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 1 23:59:53 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 1 19:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Porpoise wrote: >> "Porpoise" wrote in message >> news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>> "Borgholio" wrote in message >>> >>>> Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's >>>> Advocate. :) Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and >>>> ask point-blank if it's covered under Fair Use. >>> >>> Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid >>> of.......... >> >> In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per >> view/listen > > How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At > least if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you want. Of course, that isn't the case though. There are lots of cds that are sold that won't play correctly on different kinds of players, especially cd-rom players. They are not allowed to display the CD logo since they do not comply with the Phillips specifications, but they are still sold and people still buy them. You might balk at the limitations but so far there seem to be enough people out there who will accept them and keep buying things. Of course, my opinion of people is pretty tempered by seeing just how many cds somebody like Jessica Simpson sells. And how about the Darkness. I mean people, what the hell, why are they famous? From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Thu Dec 1 18:02:11 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Thu Dec 1 19:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: fsck ?? References: <1h6uw61.10nc3kjl5yf9gN%asterix@no_where.net> <438E0BC1.18BFF32F@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Charles did pass the time by typing: > It wasn't me! It was Kenneth Brody ! >> Asterix wrote: >>> Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, spent all weekend installing win2k3sbs and then fscked the >>>> whole thing >>> >>> Be careful with your 4-letter words - fsck is a good thing :-) > >> Yes, but you only need fsck when things are fscked. > > And it doesn't necessarily fix things. I don't know why it isn't fixing > things, but it isn't... The UNIX Guru's View of Sex unzip ; strip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep -- DougW From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 1 16:06:08 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 1 19:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Porpoise wrote: >> >>> "Porpoise" wrote in message >>> news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> >>>> "Borgholio" wrote in message >>>> >>>>> Well it's nice to at least hae someone who can play Devil's >>>>> Advocate. :) Truth is I'll have to contact a copyright lawyer and >>>>> ask point-blank if it's covered under Fair Use. >>>> >>>> >>>> Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid >>>> of.......... >>> >>> >>> In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per >>> view/listen >> >> >> How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At >> least if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you want. > > > Of course, that isn't the case though. There are lots of cds that are > sold that won't play correctly on different kinds of players, especially > cd-rom players. They are not allowed to display the CD logo since they > do not comply with the Phillips specifications, but they are still sold > and people still buy them. > > You might balk at the limitations but so far there seem to be enough > people out there who will accept them and keep buying things. Of > course, my opinion of people is pretty tempered by seeing just how many > cds somebody like Jessica Simpson sells. And how about the Darkness. I > mean people, what the hell, why are they famous? *shudder* Ok that's it...I'm moving to Nigeria. From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Fri Dec 2 01:27:58 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Fri Dec 2 04:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Holy shite.... References: Message-ID: Good for you! "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dmkfaq$h0v$1@news.spamcop.net... > (I may have had the last > laugh as I charged them double and told them why!!) > > > From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Fri Dec 2 09:27:49 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Dec 2 04:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> >> Of course, that isn't the case though. There are lots of cds that are >> sold that won't play correctly on different kinds of players, >> especially cd-rom players. They are not allowed to display the CD >> logo since they do not comply with the Phillips specifications, but >> they are still sold and people still buy them. > > *shudder* Ok that's it...I'm moving to Nigeria. It isn't so bad in other parts of the world. Sweden seems pretty good. Lots of funny legal threats here: http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php I like the: "As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here." Well, and then the more colorful things they reply back to the threats. From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Fri Dec 2 10:39:11 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Fri Dec 2 05:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone been out celebrating the UK's new licensing laws yet? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Redstone wrote: > >> If they can also sell fish and chips 24 hours, I'm all for it. :-) > > Most of the bars I've been to close the kitchens well before last > call. But it seems that some have extended their food service hours while they were at it. For example, the Moon and Bell (Wetherspoon pub in Loughborough, now open till midnight most days of the week) now advertises that food is available till 11. (I'm not sure what the limit was before.) I guess they felt the need to compete with the curry houses for that timeslot.... I recall hearing that the new licensing act has something to say about food and entertainment on licensed premises, but haven't figured out what. Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 08:55:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tour of Paris at night References: Message-ID: Steven Maesslein wrote: > On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 17:47:22 -0500, D.F. Manno coughed into > spamcop.social and left this in > : > > >> > It does seem to be snowing, though. Very heavily. Whiteout > >> > conditions, in fact. > >> > >> Hm...not for me, must be fruit problem...... > > > > It's one of those Microshit-only sites. > > That would probably explain why Firefox bombed on me when I went to > see that page. I had a really, really weird experience last night on my home PC....web sites kept being displayed as HTML scripts, not as images and text. Happened in both IE and Firefox. WTF could cause this? Reloading the page fixed the problem about 90% of the time, but I've never seen that kind of mess before except when using proxy servers. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:01:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > What are the odds (almost a sure thing) that the cable operators > > will use this as a justification to raise rates? > > IIRC, when the idea was first floated, the cable companies > "commissioned" a study which said that it would cost more to > administer and thus raise rates. Guess who is fighting the hardest and loudest *against* this proposal? The evangelicals! This rule is supposed to *protect* young children from seeing and hearing indecent material on TV, i.e. you don't buy the channels that you don't want your kids to watch (whatever happened to using the V-chip?). But Pat Robertson et al. realize that no one will pay money to watch their channels, limiting their outreach, so they are now in the position of fighting against a proposal against indecent television shows......the irony is so deliciously sweet ;-) From nobody at nowhere.invalid Fri Dec 2 15:14:25 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:27:49 +0000, Mr K. Mean coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : > I like the: > "As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United > States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. > Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here." Wasn't Adobe able to have the DMCA enforced in Russia? Something about eBooks and decryption IIRC. -- Steve A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Dec 2 14:16:57 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] First Apartment Message-ID: After finishing moving into his first apartment of his own, a young man went to the lobby to put his name on his mailbox. While there, an attractive young lady came out of the apartment next to the mailboxes wearing nothing but a robe. The young lady smiled at the young man and started a conversation with him. As they talked, her robe slipped open, and it was obvious that she had nothing else on. The poor kid broke into a sweat trying to maintain eye contact as they continued chatting. After a few minutes, she placed her hand on his arm and said, "Let's go to my apartment. I hear someone coming." He followed her into her apartment. She closed the door and leaned against it, allowing her robe to fall completely off. Now nude, she purred at him, "What would you say is my best feature?" Flustered and embarrassed, he finally squeaked, "It's got to be your ears!" Astounded and a little hurt, she asked, "My ears? Look at these boobs, they are full and 100% natural! I work out every day! My butt is firm and solid! Look at my skin. I have no blemishes anywhere! How can you think that the best part of my body is my ears?" Clearing his throat, he stammered, "Outside, when you said you heard someone coming? That was me. " From nobody at nowhere.invalid Fri Dec 2 15:17:23 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tour of Paris at night References: Message-ID: On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 07:07:21 -0600, Kenneth Loafman coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >>> That would probably explain why Firefox bombed on me when I went to >>> see that page. >> >>Nope. It works fine with Opera. Well, sort of fine. It's a very large >>file - perhaps worth pointing to Firefox as a test case... > > Firefox 1.5 brings it up just fine, a full 360 pan, large file. Could you send a URL to that file? (not the page, I have that, but the file that gets loaded in the page) -- Steve Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): "Mr. Gandhi, what do you think of Western civilisation?" Gandhi: "I think it would be a good idea." From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:20:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: First Apartment References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Clearing his throat, he stammered, "Outside, when you said you > heard someone coming? That was me. " Is it premature for me to say that many folks will find this joke pretty amusing? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:20:33 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmnrn9$b1n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > we're changing insurance companies, apparently, so far, I see that > > they pay 80% of surgeries, etc., none of this 100% after a certain > > amount is reached. I think we're getting hosed... > > Sounds like it. On further inspection, there is a more expensive plan (extra $300 or so a year) that pays 90%, and has a smaller deductible, and all my doctors are on the plan this time, so I won't have to cough up out of pocket for what they don't cover being out of network. Looks like it's going to cost me about $100 less per pay period too.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:29:37 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpk2s$6nd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Guess who is fighting the hardest and loudest *against* this proposal? The > evangelicals! This rule is supposed to *protect* young children from seeing > and hearing indecent material on TV, i.e. you don't buy the channels that > you don't want your kids to watch (whatever happened to using the V-chip?). > But Pat Robertson et al. realize that no one will pay money to watch their > channels, limiting their outreach, so they are now in the position of > fighting against a proposal against indecent television shows......the irony > is so deliciously sweet ;-) I think what they'd like most is to take away everyone's choice, ban racy shows altogether, so you can't even buy them if you want to. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Dec 2 14:41:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dmplpg$7ki$1@news.spamcop.net: > I think what they'd like most is to take away everyone's choice, ban > racy shows altogether, so you can't even buy them if you want to. Well, other than Indi and S-Kat, I don't think there's many people here who do watch Formula 1 racing, so if they're banned, who would really care that much? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:45:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmnre8$avt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > You may need to start swimming and quit the treadmill to take the stress off > of your knees. I'm a Pisces, and the two things I hate most, ironically, are being cold and wet.....I'm not keen on swimming myself, especially sharing water with a bunch of other people, that grosses me out. > He ran it again (no results yet), and tested for a bunch of other stuff -- > said the C-reactive test was only accurate 70% or the time or something. > Christ, he even asked me if I was a homo! Wanted to blame my symptoms on > some STD, I think (which I've never had, not even the clap). Not a terribly > comfortable line of questioning, what with me sitting there on the table > with nothing on but my undies and his drop dead gorgeous med student > standing right next to him...... ROFL at 'homo'.... You can have several STD's that are non-symptomatic, like Chlamydia for example, so that wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility, especially if you have unprotected sex. If you've never been tested for it, you wouldn't know you had it but there are consequences if it's untreated. > > Yeah, told the gastro guy that, he said it was very possible that was the > root cause. Remember when I went on that special diet this summer to try and > solve the problem and I complained on this board about how boiled egg whites > (I was eating them with salads in lieu of red meat) seemed to be giving me > the runs? Looks like that's been confirmed.....I did have some mayo on a > sandwhich last night, no problems today so far (crosses fingers)...... I would think that it would more be a problem of inability to digest certain proteins (which would be a gut problem, like maybe leaky gut) rather than a food allergy, since the allergic reaction to eggs is more than digestive rash, breathing difficulty, etc., and is really rare in adults. http://www.medformation.com/ac/crsaha.nsf/aha/aha_foodalle_crs.htm Are you going to be tested for allergies? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:46:42 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97204E4083E44innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dmplpg$7ki$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > I think what they'd like most is to take away everyone's choice, ban > > racy shows altogether, so you can't even buy them if you want to. > > Well, other than Indi and S-Kat, I don't think there's many people here who > do watch Formula 1 racing, so if they're banned, who would really care that > much? > HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if they take away my food porn, not so much..... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:49:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > I think what they'd like most is to take away everyone's choice, ban > racy shows altogether, so you can't even buy them if you want to. Exactly. Parents can't be expected to actually raise their kids properly in this busy day and age, right? They HAVE to have the government protect them from all the smut like Desperate Housewives and such. Oh, I also heard that the same FCC idiot is talking about going after satellite radio now too! Could be a rock hard landing for ol' Howard..... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:50:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dmplpg$7ki$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > I think what they'd like most is to take away everyone's choice, ban > > racy shows altogether, so you can't even buy them if you want to. > > Well, other than Indi and S-Kat, I don't think there's many people > here who do watch Formula 1 racing, so if they're banned, who would > really care that much? > Hardee har......go ahead and ban NASCAR if you want, but leave our F1 alone! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:50:48 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpmua$854$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Exactly. Parents can't be expected to actually raise their kids properly in > this busy day and age, right? They HAVE to have the government protect them > from all the smut like Desperate Housewives and such. Oh, I also heard that > the same FCC idiot is talking about going after satellite radio now too! > Could be a rock hard landing for ol' Howard..... Satellite radio that you have to BUY? Screw them, they're getting way out of control. Instead of infringing on my choice, they could try to spend their time doing something about the damn fax spam problem. No one seems to be enforcing that law. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:52:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if > they take away my food porn, not so much..... Hell, if you ask me they oughta ban Oprah and "The View"! They talk about sex on those shows on a almost daily basis, right during kiddie viewing hours too. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:53:16 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns971F8D47967D0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > You ain't gonna get my goat that way. Um, lame. Anyway, feta-like, > romano-like, roquefort-like, ossau iraty-like... And "-like" because those > are all AOC now, I believe. What's AOC? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:54:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 09:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmpmua$854$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Exactly. Parents can't be expected to actually raise their kids > > properly in this busy day and age, right? They HAVE to have the > > government protect them from all the smut like Desperate Housewives > > and such. Oh, I also heard that the same FCC idiot is talking about > > going after satellite radio now too! Could be a rock hard landing > > for ol' Howard..... > > Satellite radio that you have to BUY? Screw them, they're getting > way out of control. Yup, and I agree this is going way too far. But you buy cable TV too, right? Doesn't seem to be stopping them......they're this out of control freight train right now, hopefully they'll piss off someone with deep pockets and get bitch slapped into oblivion. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 09:58:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 10:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > On further inspection, there is a more expensive plan (extra $300 or > so a year) that pays 90%, and has a smaller deductible, and all my > doctors are on the plan this time, so I won't have to cough up out of > pocket for what they don't cover being out of network. Looks like > it's going to cost me about $100 less per pay period too.... $100 LESS per pay period? Good god, how much do you pay now? Our top end plan only costs $41.50 biweekly. But they really sock it to us on drug coverage, we have to pay 40%. And dental maxes out at $1500 -- that's just one root canal, which I think I need on one of my molars. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 10:02:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 10:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmnre8$avt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > You may need to start swimming and quit the treadmill to take the > > stress off of your knees. > > I'm a Pisces, and the two things I hate most, ironically, are being > cold and wet.....I'm not keen on swimming myself, especially sharing > water with a bunch of other people, that grosses me out. Heh. Throw some bananas into the pool and you and Kerry can both stare at the water in horror ;-) > > ROFL at 'homo'.... You can have several STD's that are > non-symptomatic, like Chlamydia for example, so that wouldn't be out > of the realm of possibility, especially if you have unprotected sex. > If you've never been tested for it, you wouldn't know you had it but > there are consequences if it's untreated. Never been tested for that IIRC. Dunno if he tested me for it when I was there either. > > I would think that it would more be a problem of inability to digest > certain proteins (which would be a gut problem, like maybe leaky gut) > rather than a food allergy, since the allergic reaction to eggs is > more than digestive rash, breathing difficulty, etc., and is really > rare in adults. > http://www.medformation.com/ac/crsaha.nsf/aha/aha_foodalle_crs.htm > I mentioned leaky gut syndrome to the rheumy guy and he basically shut me up, didn't want to hear about it :-(( > Are you going to be tested for allergies? Dunno. He didn't mention it. Guess he wants to inspect my stomach first. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 2 16:06:49 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Dec 2 11:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Steven Maesslein" wrote in message news:slrndp0lm1.6kl.nobody@127.0.0.1... > On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:27:49 +0000, Mr K. Mean coughed into > spamcop.social and left this in : > >> I like the: >> "As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United >> States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe. >> Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here." > > Wasn't Adobe able to have the DMCA enforced in Russia? Something about > eBooks and decryption IIRC. > No. They were prosecuted in California, not Russia. http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Elcomsoft/us_v_elcomsoft_faq.html From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 2 16:12:12 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Dec 2 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpne4$8gh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > $100 LESS per pay period? Good god, how much do you pay now? Our top end > plan only costs $41.50 biweekly. But they really sock it to us on drug > coverage, we have to pay 40%. And dental maxes out at $1500 -- that's just > one root canal, which I think I need on one of my molars. > That's why I get mine done in France - only 20.00 EUR there........ If you need a few things done, it more than pays the return fare from here.. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 11:25:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 11:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > > That's why I get mine done in France - only 20.00 EUR there........ > If you need a few things done, it more than pays the return fare from > here.. 20 Euros for a root canal? Are you serious? It costs more than that just to walk into a doctors office over here! From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Fri Dec 2 16:37:23 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Dec 2 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> indigo wrote: > Spamvireslayer wrote: >> HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if >> they take away my food porn, not so much..... > > Hell, if you ask me they oughta ban Oprah and "The View"! They talk about > sex on those shows on a almost daily basis, right during kiddie viewing > hours too. I think that was the point that somebody was making around that. Where could you hear about the rainbow parties (lipstick/oral sex) in pretty graphic detail, right on Oprah and nobody fined her billions of trillions of dollars for that. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Fri Dec 2 16:25:04 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Dec 2 11:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <549663-ehe.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpmua$854$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Exactly. Parents can't be expected to actually raise their kids properly in >> this busy day and age, right? They HAVE to have the government protect them >> from all the smut like Desperate Housewives and such. Oh, I also heard that >> the same FCC idiot is talking about going after satellite radio now too! >> Could be a rock hard landing for ol' Howard..... > > Satellite radio that you have to BUY? Screw them, they're getting way out of > control. Instead of infringing on my choice, they could try to spend their time > doing something about the damn fax spam problem. No one seems to be enforcing that > law. It sort of fills me with hope though. I mean 2000 soldiers dead in Iraq, ho hum. But start messing with people's televisions, people get mad. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 12:24:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 12:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > I think that was the point that somebody was making around that. > Where could you hear about the rainbow parties (lipstick/oral sex) in > pretty graphic detail, right on Oprah and nobody fined her billions of > trillions of dollars for that. that's the one story that really blew my stack......so to speak.... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 13:31:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 13:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was "Spamvireslayer" ! > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns971F8D47967D0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > >> > >> You ain't gonna get my goat that way. Um, lame. Anyway, > >> feta-like, romano-like, roquefort-like, ossau iraty-like... And > >> "-like" because those are all AOC now, I believe. > > > > What's AOC? > > A registered name. Oh, you mean like NCR? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Dec 2 19:22:23 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Dec 2 14:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpshp$bfe$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: > >> >> That's why I get mine done in France - only 20.00 EUR there........ >> If you need a few things done, it more than pays the return fare from >> here.. > > 20 Euros for a root canal? Are you serious? It costs more than that just > to > walk into a doctors office over here! Yup! Same here. That's what having a proper health service does..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 14:40:02 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 14:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpnm4$8po$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Heh. Throw some bananas into the pool and you and Kerry can both stare at > the water in horror ;-) Floating ANYTHING would freak me out in a pool.... > >> Never been tested for that IIRC. Dunno if he tested me for it when I was > there either. You'd know, they stick a swab up your peepee.... > > I mentioned leaky gut syndrome to the rheumy guy and he basically shut me > up, didn't want to hear about it :-(( Mainstream doctors don't think outside the box, or very few of them, anyway, you have to find a naturopath or someone who practices integrated medicine. Hard evidence or no, I know for a fact how it affects me and just how much changing the diet can improve things. Thank god, my doc will be covered under my new insurance, usually I have to pay out of pocket and get partially reimbursed - $90-$100 a pop. I hope they cover acupuncture too, the one there with my doc is absolutely fantastic. http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA125503/ > Dunno. He didn't mention it. Guess he wants to inspect my stomach first. > When's that going to happen? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 14:57:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > It wasn't me! It was "indigo" ! > > Charles wrote: > >> It wasn't me! It was "Spamvireslayer" > >> ! > > >> > What's AOC? > >> > >> A registered name. > > > > Oh, you mean like NCR? > > That sounds like a trademark. Guess me putting a smiley on that post wouldn't have helped...now I'm going to have to ruin the pun by explaining it. Damn you, Charles! NCR = National Cash Register, the company that invented said item and still makes them, IIRC, among other retail POS electronics (POS != piece of sh*t in this usage ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 15:01:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmpnm4$8po$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Heh. Throw some bananas into the pool and you and Kerry can both > > stare at the water in horror ;-) > > Floating ANYTHING would freak me out in a pool.... Do bananas float? Maybe I should write Letterman and ask him to do that "will it sink or float" skit with a banana....... > You'd know, they stick a swab up your peepee.... > > Didn't do that. I've never had that done, I don't think. > > I mentioned leaky gut syndrome to the rheumy guy and he basically > > shut me up, didn't want to hear about it :-(( > > Mainstream doctors don't think outside the box, or very few of them, > anyway, you have to find a naturopath or someone who practices > integrated medicine. I hope they cover acupuncture too, the one there with my doc is > absolutely fantastic. http://www.drweil.com/u/QA/QA125503/ My physical therapist's mom is seeing a local acupuncturist for digestive problems, the chi is her liver is all messed up ;-) But the treatments are working! I may go see her if things go south again (I'm actually feeling pretty damn good since I stopped eating eggs). > > Dunno. He didn't mention it. Guess he wants to inspect my stomach > > first. > > > When's that going to happen? Just in time for Xmas -- Dec 21st. See the rheumy guy the following day for my test results. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 15:02:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmpshp$bfe$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Porpoise wrote: > > > >> > >> That's why I get mine done in France - only 20.00 EUR there........ > >> If you need a few things done, it more than pays the return fare > >> from here.. > > > > 20 Euros for a root canal? Are you serious? It costs more than that > > just to > > walk into a doctors office over here! > > > Yup! Same here. That's what having a proper health service does..... And with that "proper health service" comes high taxes, rioting, high unemployement, lazy employees....need I go on? From nobody at nowhere.invalid Fri Dec 2 21:20:29 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:53:16 -0500, Spamvireslayer coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >> You ain't gonna get my goat that way. Um, lame. Anyway, feta-like, >> romano-like, roquefort-like, ossau iraty-like... And "-like" because those >> are all AOC now, I believe. > > What's AOC? Apellation d'Origine Contr?l?e. Applied to wines, cheeses and various other foodstuffs that are supposed to originate from a precise geographic location. It has to be certified the real McCoy to be able to carry the name. It is to prevent cheap knock-offs calling themselves, for example, "Ch?teau P?trus" and selling at ridiculous prices when in fact they're a mixture of vinegar and floor cleaner imported from Romania. Allowing such gut-rot to sell at high prices allows those selling it to make indecent profits by riding on the Ch?teau's coat-tails, and it damages the real thing's reputation. The AOC system makes it illegal to sell the Romanian crud as Ch?teau P?trus. -- Steve From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 15:31:46 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmpne4$8gh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > $100 LESS per pay period? Good god, how much do you pay now? Our top end > plan only costs $41.50 biweekly. But they really sock it to us on drug > coverage, we have to pay 40%. And dental maxes out at $1500 -- that's just > one root canal, which I think I need on one of my molars. I'm paying $135 biweekly right now, it was $3500 last year and I did that on purpose paying extra for the PPO plan, because once I hit $700 out of pocket, (not hard when you've had as many things done as I have) they paid 100% of everything. My knee surgery is not going to cost me a dime, nor did the 2 MRIs I had done. Scrips are reimbursed 100% if I pay cash and send for remibursement. If I figured it right the way they said, the best plan is now going to cost about $36 biweekly. Dental goes up to $2000, and they pay only 50% of major stuff, which hopefully doesn't include root canals, because right now they pay 80 on those. Now I'll have to pay $40 for a 90 day mail order supply of name drugs, and $20 for generics, despite the fact that at least one of them costs about $8. No bargain, but at least I can go to a pharmacy now and pay a co pay instead of eating the whole thing out of pocket till they reimburse me. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 15:34:06 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > I think that was the point that somebody was making around that. Where > could you hear about the rainbow parties (lipstick/oral sex) in pretty > graphic detail, right on Oprah and nobody fined her billions of > trillions of dollars for that. Eww...I am so out of the loop....I had no idea what a rainbow party was. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 15:37:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 15:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Paging Mr. Mean Message-ID: Do you have a nice warm parka to go with your new Thinsulate gloves? NewScientist.com - NEWSFLASH ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Failing ocean current raises fears of mini ice age The ocean current that gives western Europe its relatively balmy climate is stuttering, raising worries that it might fail entirely and plunge the continent into a mini ice age. The dramatic finding comes from a study of ocean circulation in the North Atlantic, which found a 30% reduction in the warm currents that carry water north from the Gulf Stream. Harry Bryden led the research team at the Southampton Oceanography Centre in the UK. He told New Scientist: "We are nervous about our findings. They have come as quite a surprise." Read the full story here: http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8398 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 16:18:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 16:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmpne4$8gh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > $100 LESS per pay period? Good god, how much do you pay now? Our > > top end plan only costs $41.50 biweekly. But they really sock it > > to us on drug coverage, we have to pay 40%. And dental maxes out at > > $1500 -- that's just one root canal, which I think I need on one of > > my molars. > > I'm paying $135 biweekly right now, it was $3500 last year and I did > that on purpose paying extra for the PPO plan, because once I hit > $700 out of pocket, (not hard when you've had as many things done as > I have) they paid 100% of everything. My knee surgery is not going > to cost me a dime, nor did the 2 MRIs I had done. Scrips are > reimbursed 100% if I pay cash and send for remibursement. If I > figured it right the way they said, the best plan is now going to > cost about $36 biweekly. I've never heard of insurance costs going DOWN, and certainly not by 400%! Sounds like you guys were getting royally screwed by your old provider. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 16:19:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 16:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > > I think that was the point that somebody was making around that. > > Where could you hear about the rainbow parties (lipstick/oral sex) > > in pretty graphic detail, right on Oprah and nobody fined her > > billions of trillions of dollars for that. > > Eww...I am so out of the loop....I had no idea what a rainbow party > was. I never heard of it either until the Oprah show debacle. Sounds like a wonderful party though! (for a man ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 16:50:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Dec 2 16:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dmqb4u$jm7$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > > Eww...I am so out of the loop....I had no idea what a rainbow party > > was. > > > > > > > > I still have no idea LOL. A guy sees how many different colors of lipstick he can collect on his johnson, get it? From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Dec 2 13:56:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Dec 2 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in news:dmnsng$bke$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > >>Sony was stupid and went too far with their protection scheme and made >>it unpalatable. Hopefully they have shown exactly what will happen >>under the DMCA and there will be a move to roll it back. >> > > > I think if they all go too far (and in my opinion this DRM stuff is already > going too far) then people will stop buying music and then the music > publishers will really start to hurt. I absolutely WILL NOT buy copy > protected CDs. Not because I intend to rip them and share them with lots of > other people, but because I may want to rip it to MP3 format that will play > anywhere that I want to play it and not on some dedicated machine or bit of > software. If that no longer becomes possible without an awful lot of > mucking about, I simply will not buy the music in the first place and > probably a lot of people over the age of 25 will be of the same mind. (I > figure 25 is the point at which most people have stopped being so obsessed > with current music). I couldn't have said it better myself. MP3 is so much more portable than CDS, and far more widespread / compatible than WMA or other audio formats. It's a matter of convenience for me. I'd love to see the RIAA try and sue someone for copyright infringement when they have no evidence that the ripped MP3s were shared with anybody. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Fri Dec 2 17:41:25 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Fri Dec 2 17:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dmqb4u$jm7$1 > > > Eww...I am so out of the loop....I had no idea what a rainbow party was. > > I still have no idea LOL. Don't worry--they don't exist. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 18:33:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Dec 2 18:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmqdml$kur$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I've never heard of insurance costs going DOWN, and certainly not by 400%! > Sounds like you guys were getting royally screwed by your old provider. They had a much cheaper HMO type plan, but the out of network charges were HUGE, out pocket expenses were 1000 or more, and with my doctors outside the HMO, I would have had to find new ones (and there's no "plan" endo in this area) or pay out of pocket for both of them. The insurance costs when all is said and done are going to go up for most people, the plan is maybe a little cheaper, but they're passing on twice the cost to us, they give us a certain amount of credit toward benefits, I think last year mine was $1000 or so, now it's $750. I might make out the best because I was paying through the nose for the PPO, everyone who took the cheaper plan is going to get less help from the company, "as is the industry standard", they say. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 19:01:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Fri Dec 2 19:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-> > Don't worry--they don't exist. They probably do, in high schools, oral sex is apparently no big deal because it's not "sex".... From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 19:16:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Dec 2 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if | > they take away my food porn, not so much..... | | Hell, if you ask me they oughta ban Oprah and "The View"! They talk about | sex on those shows on a almost daily basis, right during kiddie viewing | hours too. And you know this from personal observation ... over many many hours? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 19:55:12 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Fri Dec 2 19:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dmqomh$r3p$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" > > | > HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if > | > they take away my food porn, not so much..... > | > | Hell, if you ask me they oughta ban Oprah and "The View"! They talk about > | sex on those shows on a almost daily basis, right during kiddie viewing > | hours too. > > And you know this from personal observation ... over many many hours? When we were moving in somewhere, the cable guy came to install the cable. He turned the TV on to show that it was working and the picture was of a naked man's backside! We managed to ignore it, but neither one of us knew what to do. That's how I know! Miss Betsy From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Dec 2 17:12:38 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Dec 2 20:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmqfte$imu$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>I couldn't have said it better myself. MP3 is so much more portable >>than CDS, and far more widespread / compatible than WMA or other audio >>formats. It's a matter of convenience for me. I'd love to see the >>RIAA try and sue someone for copyright infringement when they have no >>evidence that the ripped MP3s were shared with anybody. >> > > > Did you find a good way of converting your stuff purchased online into MP3? > Bro in law just bought an ipod and discovered that none of the songs he'd > already bought online would work on it. > > I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I'll do a simple patch. Instead of running my speaker cable to my speaker, I'll run it back to the line-in of my soundcard. Then I'll play the WMA file while recording the line-in using a different program (I use Media Jukebox, but any audio recorder will work). From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Sat Dec 3 05:13:04 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Sat Dec 3 00:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] It's COLD up here!! Message-ID: Not much snow as yet, only a few inches... But the temp is right at -18C which is ZERO F and dropping! With the wind chill, it's -31C , -24F. Come morning it's gonna get colder, but it's "supposed" to warm up to close to freezing by Monday.... and that is subject to change. Anyone want some "cool" weather??? (and it ain't even Winter yet!) From edb2000 at spamcop.net Fri Dec 2 23:43:59 2005 From: edb2000 at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Sat Dec 3 02:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dmo0tj$drv$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>"Borgholio" wrote in message >>news:dmo0ck$dgs$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >>Fair Use seems to be exactly what they are trying to get rid of.......... > > > In fact, if they really get their way, it'll be down to pay per view/listen > For y'all too young to remember, when Thomas first invented a workable recording device, musicians and singers resisted being recorded because they would not be paid per performance -- i.e. per view/listen. The record companies were made possible by Edison's commercialized device and the improvements that followed right up to what we are talking about now. The economics of the new technology allowed those same record companies to basically stomp on the performers and completely eliminate per-performance compensation. There is a piquant originality in the situation of those same record companies (or their descendants) using the legal system, well-greased of course, to try to seize for themselves what they have historically denied to the very performers themselves. I'm looking for the right word for it: irony? chutzpah? -- Don Wannit A paid SpamCop user since 1999 From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Dec 2 23:49:47 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Dec 3 02:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Not much snow as yet, only a few inches... > > But the temp is right at -18C which is ZERO F and dropping! > With the wind chill, it's -31C , -24F. > Come morning it's gonna get colder, but it's "supposed" to warm up to close > to freezing by Monday.... and that is subject to change. > Anyone want some "cool" weather??? > (and it ain't even Winter yet!) Oh you wuss. It was rainy and 50ish today. Perfect motorcycling weather. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Dec 2 23:50:23 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Dec 3 02:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Don Wannit wrote: > > I'm looking for the right word for it: irony? chutzpah? > > Bullshit? From edb2000 at spamcop.net Sat Dec 3 00:50:12 2005 From: edb2000 at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Sat Dec 3 03:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: <25jro11j3r2ho3a1lieu7f43dr9llrlhpt@4ax.com> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Don Wannit wrote: > >> >> I'm looking for the right word for it: irony? chutzpah? >> >> > > Bullshit? Well, yes, that's like the one: Q: How can you tell when a lawyer is lying? A: His/her lips are moving Yet there are other words to describe a claim made in a legal context. In this case, we know a priori that anything the record companies say is bullshit. That doesn't help differentiate this particular statement from other kinds of fertilizer emanating from the record company lie-ers (oops, lawyers). -- Don Wannit A paid SpamCop user since 1999 From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Dec 3 08:51:48 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sat Dec 3 03:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9720ADFE4F4FFspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmqfte$imu$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> I couldn't have said it better myself. MP3 is so much more portable >> than CDS, and far more widespread / compatible than WMA or other audio >> formats. It's a matter of convenience for me. I'd love to see the >> RIAA try and sue someone for copyright infringement when they have no >> evidence that the ripped MP3s were shared with anybody. >> > > Did you find a good way of converting your stuff purchased online into > MP3? > Bro in law just bought an ipod and discovered that none of the songs he'd > already bought online would work on it. > This is the sort of thing that happens when you start getting away from "standard" formats (like cda, mpeg etc.). From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:08:11 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Another huge unexpected break up References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in news:dmcojn$82a$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Were things really that good in the good old days though? Let's not > forget that the classics of English literature were built around > courtly love, i.e. Lancelot having the hots for King Arthur's wife. > Usually those "classics" are more tragedies than anything else. It's a sure bet that things was better then. My parents loved each other in marriage until the day my father died. (Fulfilling the vow "till death do us part".) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:09:08 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dmf808$mqb$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Nah, that's a new phone, ain't it? But my phone is pretty slim and small, > fits nicely in my pant's pocket without feeling too bulky. > > I need a Star Trek communicator.. that Razr fits the bill nicely. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:29:15 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Happy Turkey Day all!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dmf6vu$mdc$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Frog Prince wrote: >> >> Well there are multiple uses for bananas .... I recall a rash of >> 'banana eating contest' in the bars near Fort Polk, LA 40 years back. >> These events were quite popular until some troop switched bananas and >> the entire bar was cleared by the MPs. > > > Were they anything like Howard Stern's salami swallowing contests? ;-) > > > Whatever happened to fun contests like that? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:33:25 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Skiwi (sorry guys, it's the 's' word) [Hmmmm...] References: Message-ID: Skiwi wrote in news:dmdn0e$q7p$2@news.spamcop.net: > > Sometimes, as in this, I get an accidental discharge! :-) > > Do you use Firefox? Tried NoScript? It is an eyeopener to me, a person > who does not really care to get into HTML et. al. very much, how many > sites use Java in so many places! > Been using Firefox for quite a while now. (Lets face it.. IE is no good for trying to track down spammer scamsites.) It is a rarity to find a site that don't use Java or Javascript for that matter. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:35:35 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone been out celebrating the UK's new licensing laws yet? References: Message-ID: Stewart Gordon wrote in news:dmp88g$12c$1@news.spamcop.net: > > But it seems that some have extended their food service hours while > they were at it. For example, the Moon and Bell (Wetherspoon pub in > Loughborough, now open till midnight most days of the week) now > advertises that food is available till 11. (I'm not sure what the > limit was before.) I guess they felt the need to compete with the > curry houses for that timeslot.... > > I recall hearing that the new licensing act has something to say about > food and entertainment on licensed premises, but haven't figured out > what. > > Stewart. > There is a 24-hour Denny's near where I live.. Sometimes you get the munchies something terrible around 3:30am. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:36:12 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote in news:Xns9720E20324D33innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61: > Not much snow as yet, only a few inches... > > But the temp is right at -18C which is ZERO F and dropping! > With the wind chill, it's -31C , -24F. > Come morning it's gonna get colder, but it's "supposed" to warm up to > close to freezing by Monday.... and that is subject to change. > Anyone want some "cool" weather??? > (and it ain't even Winter yet!) Call me if you have a blizzard. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:39:00 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crabby! References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:dmnpen$5fe$1 @news.spamcop.net: > kram wrote: >> Photos of the Crab nebula - neato! >> >> http://tinyurl.com/buy92 >> > > Hmm...needs some talcum powder. > Too bad that these photos are false color representations.. Apparently a true view of these objects reveal a haze of greyscales. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:41:26 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: One good reason to boycott Chinese goods References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dmkiug$j1a$1 @news.spamcop.net: > http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/29/mccartney.china/ > > Utterly revolting.... > > Go to Vietnam.. dogs and cats is a regular delicacy. I think in Phillipines there is something called "Puppy on a stick" or was that Thailand?.. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:42:04 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Househunting - Reloaded References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:dmjka9$vf2$1@news.spamcop.net: > Well it's approaching the time where I'll be heading out to do my > footwork. > I've centered on Oregon and Washington due to the climate and the > affordability. This presents the problem of how I'm going to get up > there and do thorough walkthroughs without taking too much time off of > work (or spending too much money). Anybody ever went shopping for a > house that's so far away you'd need to fly out to view it? What's the > best way to go about this? Just take a few days off, schedule lots of > viewings during that time, then come back in a week or two and repeat > until you find the right place? Ever thought of a house boat? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sat Dec 3 11:46:49 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sat Dec 3 06:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- AF5E36.15254628112005@news.cesmail.net: > Another friend is about > 5'2", with larger breasts (about 36D-38D). According to the sizing > chart, she /also/ wears a medium t-shirt, but I'm not sure how that > applied to the "babydoll" ones. How can that work? I've submitted an > inquiry with ThinkGeek's support people, as I have no idea how the > babydoll shirts are sized, and don't want to get something the wrong > size. > > Heaven forbid I buy a shirt too large for a woman, or too small. Gah. So > frustrating! > Who cares... I'd say "small" is a "Good Thing (tm)" where this gal is concerned. ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Dec 3 16:59:15 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sat Dec 3 12:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Skiwi (sorry guys, it's the 's' word) [Hmmmm...] References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9721242F59CBCtinlc@216.154.195.61... > > Been using Firefox for quite a while now. (Lets face it.. IE is no good > for > trying to track down spammer scamsites.) > > It is a rarity to find a site that don't use Java or Javascript for that > matter. > Just because someone uses IE doesn't mean they *have* to accept any scripts (be it Java or otherwise - or cookies). It *can* be locked down quite securely..... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Dec 3 17:02:14 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sat Dec 3 12:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: One good reason to boycott Chinese goods References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9721258B52EADtinlc@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dmkiug$j1a$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/11/29/mccartney.china/ >> >> Utterly revolting.... >> >> > > Go to Vietnam.. dogs and cats is a regular delicacy. I think in > Phillipines > there is something called "Puppy on a stick" or was that Thailand?.. > I guess it must have been Filpines - certainly wouldn't have been Thailand. Not that I see any difference between eating that and any other animal ........ Most meat we eat comes from domesticated animals. From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Dec 3 07:07:19 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Dec 3 13:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Another huge unexpected break up References: Message-ID: "Redstone" | > | > Were things really that good in the good old days though? Let's not | > forget that the classics of English literature were built around | > courtly love, i.e. Lancelot having the hots for King Arthur's wife. | > | | Usually those "classics" are more tragedies than anything else. It's a sure | bet that things was better then. My parents loved each other in marriage | until the day my father died. (Fulfilling the vow "till death do us part".) Many times the love goes past death. My mother still misses my dad and he's been gone ~ 30 years. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Sat Dec 3 19:07:51 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? In-Reply-To: References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-> >> Don't worry--they don't exist. > > They probably do, in high schools, oral sex is apparently no big deal > because it's not "sex".... The point wasn't really whether they exist or not, the point was the selective enforcement of indecency regulations. Ophra can get away with topics like this while Howard Stern couldn't. From skiwi at spamcop.net Sat Dec 3 11:14:39 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmrim9$85b$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >> Oh you wuss. It was rainy and 50ish today. Perfect motorcycling >> weather. >> > > You have a strange idea of perfect motorcycling weather! My (motorcycle) commute home the other day in Seattle was as it was snowing - fortunately not sticking, because I would have been checking out how comfortable my office floor was! From skiwi at spamcop.net Sat Dec 3 11:15:16 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > JohnL wrote in > news:Xns9720E20324D33innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61: > >> Not much snow as yet, only a few inches... >> >> But the temp is right at -18C which is ZERO F and dropping! >> With the wind chill, it's -31C , -24F. >> Come morning it's gonna get colder, but it's "supposed" to warm up to >> close to freezing by Monday.... and that is subject to change. >> Anyone want some "cool" weather??? >> (and it ain't even Winter yet!) > > > Call me if you have a blizzard. :-) With sprinkles or chocolate sauce? From skiwi at spamcop.net Sat Dec 3 11:16:26 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Now *this* is an an interesting 'church'... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > "Skiwi" wrote in message > news:dmavk0$d60$1@news.spamcop.net... >> http://www.landoverbaptist.org/ > > eheh that site's popped up in here a few times, the most recent was just > before Halloween and I think the discussion ended up somewhere around the > wwjd thong.... ( but don't quote me on that as I'm pulling it from memory) > before we got into talking about what the real meaning of Halloween was all > about, and some other interjections on that and other subjects... I missed that buried in a thread - thanks for the headsup... no such thing as a new idea I guess... :-) From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Sat Dec 3 19:22:17 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Mr. Mean In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Do you have a nice warm parka to go with your new Thinsulate gloves? > > NewScientist.com - NEWSFLASH > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Failing ocean current raises fears of mini ice age > Yes, I have quite a warm jacket. My old ski jacket. It has taken me through a bunch of below zero days. That thing is a rock, probably 25 years old and I kind of expect it to last another 25 years. But there have been reports like this for a while. I remember seeing one a few years ago predicting that by like 2030, England would have a climate similar to Lapland. I have no idea where I'll be living in 2030. Maybe I'll move to Lapland itself, who knows. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Sat Dec 3 19:45:40 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] A Christmas Story Message-ID: 'Twas the night before Christmas--Old Santa was pissed. He cussed out the elves and threw down his list. Miserable little brats, ungrateful little jerks. I have a good mind to scrap the whole works! I've busted my ass for damn near a year, Instead of "Thanks Santa"--what do I hear? The old lady bitches cause I work late at night. The elves want more money--The reindeer all fight. Rudolph got drunk and goosed all the maids. Donner is pregnant and Vixen has AIDS. And just when I thought that things would get better Those assholes from the IRS sent me a letter, They say I owe taxes--if that ain't damn funny Who the hell ever sent Santa Claus any money? And the kids these days--they all are the pits They want the impossible--Those mean little shits I spent a whole year making wagons and sleds Assembling dolls...Their arms, legs and heads I made a ton of yo yo's--No request for them, They want computers and robots...they think - I'm IBM! Flying through the air...dodging the trees Falling down chimneys and skinning my knees I'm quitting this job there's just no enjoyment I'll sit on my fat ass and draw unemployment. There's no Christmas this year now you know the reason, I found me a blonde. I'm going SOUTH for the season From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Sat Dec 3 19:50:54 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sat Dec 3 14:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Bad sex Message-ID: http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,6000,1652812,00.html Ok, if you are offended by descriptions of sex, then skip this. If you are offended by bad descriptions of sex, proceed with caution. But if you find really awful writing amusing, then have fun. Just a warning though, very little of this is actually very sexy. Like Zorro, that one cracked me up. From MikeE at ster.invalid Sat Dec 3 12:00:33 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Sat Dec 3 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,6000,1652812,00.html I still think something should have been done with Faye's legs' 'M of receptivity' and the 'murder' of crows. He couldn't seem to keep his mind on the right 'M is for...' -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Sat Dec 3 14:06:39 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Sat Dec 3 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A Christmas Story References: Message-ID: JohnL did pass the time by typing: :) It's that time of the year, eh? It was supposed to be a happy time of the year. However, this year Santa was not having a particularly good day. It was Christmas Eve and not a thing was going right. Mrs. Claus had burned the Christmas cookies, the Elves were bitching about not getting paid for overtime they put in making toys, and the reindeer had been drinking all afternoon and were dead drunk. They had just taken the sleigh out for a spin earlier in the day and wrecked it. Hit a tree, broke off one of the runners and scratched up the new shiny red paint job Santa just had done. Santa was steaming with anger. "I CAN'T f_ing believe it! I've got to deliver millions of presents all over the world in just a few hours! All my reindeer are drunk, the Elves are on strike, my sleigh is totaled and we don't even have a dang Christmas tree! I sent that stupid Little Angel out hours ago to find a tree and he isn't even back yet! What the heck am I going to do?" Just then the Little Angel opened the front door and stepped in from the snowy night, dragging a Christmas tree and tracking mud and snow all over the floor. "Yo, Santa, where do you want me to stick the Christmas Tree this year???" And that my friends is how the Little Angle came to be on top of the tree. -- DougW From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sat Dec 3 12:45:05 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Sat Dec 3 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , Redstone wrote: > Who cares... I'd say "small" is a "Good Thing (tm)" where this gal is > concerned. ;-) In private, I certainly agree! But this is a gift I'd actually like her to wear. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Dec 3 13:54:58 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Dec 3 16:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Househunting - Reloaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmjka9$vf2$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>Well it's approaching the time where I'll be heading out to do my >>footwork. >> I've centered on Oregon and Washington due to the climate and the >>affordability. This presents the problem of how I'm going to get up >>there and do thorough walkthroughs without taking too much time off of >>work (or spending too much money). Anybody ever went shopping for a >>house that's so far away you'd need to fly out to view it? What's the >>best way to go about this? Just take a few days off, schedule lots of >>viewings during that time, then come back in a week or two and repeat >>until you find the right place? > > > > > Ever thought of a house boat? > Well one of the properties in Washington was build right on the river. Had it's own dock and was under 40k. :) From nobody at nowhere.invalid Sat Dec 3 23:22:09 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Sat Dec 3 17:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 12:45:05 -0800, Pete Stephenson coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : > In private, I certainly agree! But this is a gift I'd actually like her > to wear. :) Make it a ball of string maybe? :o) -- Steve Recorded message on an answerphone: "This is not an answering machine, this is a telepathic thought-recording device. After the tone, think about your name, your number, and your reason for calling.... and I'll think about returning your call." From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sat Dec 3 17:49:46 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Sat Dec 3 20:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , Steven Maesslein wrote: > Make it a ball of string maybe? :o) Hmmm. Now /that/ is something to consider... *evil grin* -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:34:12 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sun Dec 4 06:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Another huge unexpected break up References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dmsphn$qdo$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Many times the love goes past death. My mother still misses my dad and > he's been gone ~ 30 years. > > Same here.. its been 20 years now. Fascinating. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:38:26 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sun Dec 4 06:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Paging Skiwi (sorry guys, it's the 's' word) [Hmmmm...] References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dmsj30$n7h$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Just because someone uses IE doesn't mean they *have* to accept any > scripts (be it Java or otherwise - or cookies). It *can* be locked > down quite securely..... > > True. But I could never get myself to completely trust IE even if the scripts was disabled. (Just too closely integrated with the OS is what makes me supicious.) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:39:50 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sun Dec 4 06:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- CEB333.12450403122005@news.cesmail.net: > > In private, I certainly agree! But this is a gift I'd actually like her > to wear. :) > Sew on a Louis Vutton label on it. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:41:09 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sun Dec 4 06:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: One good reason to boycott Chinese goods References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dmsj8k$nco$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > I guess it must have been Filpines - certainly wouldn't have been > Thailand. Not that I see any difference between eating that and any > other animal ........ Most meat we eat comes from domesticated > animals. > > I heard that fried scorpion is tasty. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Sun Dec 4 11:42:19 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Sun Dec 4 06:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone been out celebrating the UK's new licensing laws yet? References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote in news:ozchzhq02- EFBD45.07111903122005@frylock.local: > > But can you imagine if Denny's was allowed to serve alcohol at that > hour? > Then we'd definitely have problems. They would end up with the boozers coming from the bars the closed at 1 AM. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Dec 4 12:43:59 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Dec 4 07:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: One good reason to boycott Chinese goods References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9722257FAA09Ctinlc@216.154.195.61... > "Porpoise" wrote in > news:dmsj8k$nco$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> >> >> I guess it must have been Filpines - certainly wouldn't have been >> Thailand. Not that I see any difference between eating that and any >> other animal ........ Most meat we eat comes from domesticated >> animals. >> >> > > I heard that fried scorpion is tasty. :-) Quite possibly. Perhaps similar to grasshoppers....?? From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Sun Dec 4 13:34:48 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Sun Dec 4 08:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: condi tells europe to back off... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat on 02/12/2005 wrote: >http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/security_europe_rice_dc > >one wonders... or else WHAT exactly? > >WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State >Condoleezza Rice is expected to give allies in Europe a response next >week to their pressure over Washington's treatment of terrorism >suspects: back off. Europe won't back off on this issue, it's already stated that it will deny a vote for member nations who knowingly have secrete CIA bases involved with torture of suspects. -- Rob http://www.flickr.com/photos/canopus_archives/ From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Sun Dec 4 14:07:09 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun Dec 4 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: condi tells europe to back off... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > Sylvesterthekat on 02/12/2005 wrote: > >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/security_europe_rice_dc >> >> one wonders... or else WHAT exactly? >> >> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Secretary of State >> Condoleezza Rice is expected to give allies in Europe a response next >> week to their pressure over Washington's treatment of terrorism >> suspects: back off. > > Europe won't back off on this issue, it's already stated that it will > deny a vote for member nations who knowingly have secrete CIA bases > involved with torture of suspects. But the macho anti-European act has generally played well domestically, which perhaps is some of the point. We might not understand all that fancy schmancy talk about extraordinary renditions, but telling you all where you can stick your frog legs and snails, we can get behind all that. Besides, at least Britain and perhaps others, are involved in the same sort of thing, or at least are pretending to not see what is going on. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Dec 4 16:01:07 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Dec 4 11:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: condi tells europe to back off... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:dmut6d$ub6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > But the macho anti-European act has generally played well domestically, > which perhaps is some of the point. We might not understand all that > fancy schmancy talk about extraordinary renditions, but telling you all > where you can stick your frog legs and snails, we can get behind all that. That's precisely the attitude that pisses off the rest of the world. (Not just Europe). From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Sun Dec 4 10:45:19 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Sun Dec 4 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: Redstone did pass the time by typing: > Skiwi wrote in news:dmsqs5$r2c$2@news.spamcop.net: > > >> >> With sprinkles or chocolate sauce? >> > > > I'll go with the chocolate sauce.. better thick. :-) And fresly chopped pecans. :) -- DougW From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Sun Dec 4 20:08:20 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun Dec 4 15:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: condi tells europe to back off... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:dmut6d$ub6$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> But the macho anti-European act has generally played well domestically, >> which perhaps is some of the point. We might not understand all that >> fancy schmancy talk about extraordinary renditions, but telling you all >> where you can stick your frog legs and snails, we can get behind all that. > > That's precisely the attitude that pisses off the rest of the world. (Not > just Europe). I'm not saying it is my belief. I'm just saying with approval ratings heading down into the low 30% range, I doubt you will see a lot of concern over what Europe (or the rest of the world) thinks. Pressing the terrorism button won a lot of votes and they are not going to stop pressing it just because a bit of the shine has worn off on it. There are the 2006 midterm elections to worry about after all. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sun Dec 4 14:17:16 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Sun Dec 4 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , Redstone wrote: > Sew on a Louis Vutton label on it. :-) *laughs* Won't work. She works at a store that sells that stuff. Argh, this is annoying. Now she's pissed off at me because a freakin' t-shirt is "too expensive, you know I don't like getting gifts". What the hell? You do something nice, even if it's small ($20 for Christmas isn't really all that much for me...), and they yell at you. WTF? Her response was "If you do this, I'll get mad and won't talk to you for a while"...what the hell? I want to give her something that she'll treasure, that'll make her smile, and think fondly of me. Not piss her off. Ugh. I haven't been able to do /anything/ right in the last three months or so. We've been having this stupid conflict, and I'm just trying to be a nice guy and good friend for Christmas, and let her know that even though we've had some rough times, I'm still her friend, still give a damn, and that's more important to me than any silly fight we're having. She says she understands, but she'll still nitpick EVERYTHING I do. Argh. It's like I'm married already or something... -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Dec 4 20:18:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Dec 4 20:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-> Argh, this is annoying. Now she's pissed off at me because a freakin' > t-shirt is "too expensive, you know I don't like getting gifts". > > What the hell? You do something nice, even if it's small ($20 for > Christmas isn't really all that much for me...), and they yell at you. > WTF? > > Her response was "If you do this, I'll get mad and won't talk to you for > a while"...what the hell? I want to give her something that she'll > treasure, that'll make her smile, and think fondly of me. Not piss her > off. > > Ugh. I haven't been able to do /anything/ right in the last three months > or so. We've been having this stupid conflict, and I'm just trying to be > a nice guy and good friend for Christmas, and let her know that even > though we've had some rough times, I'm still her friend, still give a > damn, and that's more important to me than any silly fight we're having. > She says she understands, but she'll still nitpick EVERYTHING I do. Seriously.....You're not very good at reading people, are you? Do you find you're often misunderstood? You want to buy her "something she'll treasure". And that's a teeny little t-shirt? Obviously that's far too intimate, buying her clothing, she seems to be on a VERY different page than you are. She'll be mad and won't speak to you if you buy her a present? Read between the lines here. I translate that to mean 'I had no intention of getting you a gift because we're not THAT kind of "friends", so don't embarrass me by getting me one". Give her what she seems to want....nothing but best wishes for the season. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sun Dec 4 18:07:21 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Sun Dec 4 21:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > Seriously.....You're not very good at reading people, are you? Do > you find you're often misunderstood? I don't find myself misunderstood very often. It happens occasionally, like with everyone, but no more than I suspect is normal. For me, the worst part is being misunderstood when there's some sort of relationship conflict going on. I'm the type who wants to sit down, put all the cards on the table, address the issue directly, reach a solution, and get on with things. I speak clearly, openly, and without any sort of hidden messages...but whenever something like that happens, the other person suspects some sort of ulterior motive or sneakiness[1] and acts accordingly. Very frustrating when one is trying to resolve things, you know? > You want to buy her "something she'll treasure". And that's a teeny > little t-shirt? Obviously that's far too intimate, buying her > clothing, she seems to be on a VERY different page than you are. I'd like to give her something more, of course. Personally, I'd like to go out there and visit, spend some time with her, etc. But not only is that not possible, but it would likely not be good right now. As I said I would _like_ to give her something she'd really enjoy, but a simple geeky t-shirt (she's a math major, and its a t-shirt with the first 4493 digits of Pi arranged to form a big Pi symbol[2]) seemed a bit more appropriate. I guess not. Oh well. > She'll be mad and won't speak to you if you buy her a present? Read > between the lines here. I translate that to mean 'I had no > intention of getting you a gift because we're not THAT kind of > "friends", so don't embarrass me by getting me one". Give her what > she seems to want....nothing but best wishes for the season. We were discussing the whole present thing before...she wants to get me and my family some small presents. I offered to do the same for her and her family, but she said that sending a Christmas card to the family and something small for her would be best. Perhaps in a bit she'll understand this...it's not to terribly hard to understand, particularly when I'm upfront about it, etc. It's $18...oh no, far too rich of a present! Gah. [1] When good friends of mine get really sick, I like to bring them soup, some snacks, etc. When they're too far away, I mail a can of soup, some chocolate, butterscotch, and a get-well card. I sent out about four parcels to sick friends in about a week, this girl included. The other three all reacted with "Thank you! That hit the spot!" and other such stuff...this girl thought it was some sort of act of desperation or some such, even when I _clearly_ told her why I did that, told her about it beforehand, etc. Argh. [2] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6f63/ -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Mon Dec 5 08:04:44 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Dec 5 03:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > > Seriously.....You're not very good at reading people, are you? Do you find > you're often misunderstood? > > You want to buy her "something she'll treasure". And that's a teeny little > t-shirt? Obviously that's far too intimate, buying her clothing, she seems > to be on a VERY different page than you are. She'll be mad and won't speak > to you if you buy her a present? Read between the lines here. I translate > that to mean 'I had no intention of getting you a gift because we're not > THAT kind of "friends", so don't embarrass me by getting me one". Give her > what she seems to want....nothing but best wishes for the season. Is it just me or do you just feel this kind of overwhelming neediness in all of these. I mean I'm not even involved and I feel like yelling, aack, I need my space. I'm not saying it is everything and all the time, but you can be an alcoholic without drinking every day. There is just that edge to all of these. You know, it isn't about the t-shirt at all, by the way. Is this the 3rd or 4th one of these, sort of heading down the same terrain again. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:24:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "indigo" > > | > HAR HAR HAR!!! I'd be ok with banning THAT kind of show. Now if > | > they take away my food porn, not so much..... > | > | Hell, if you ask me they oughta ban Oprah and "The View"! They talk > | about sex on those shows on a almost daily basis, right during > | kiddie viewing hours too. > > And you know this from personal observation ... over many many hours? Never watched a single second of Oprah, but have seen a few bits of the View (I like Meredith Viera ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:24:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:25:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone hear about some new cable TV law? References: <8r9663-one.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dmqfje$m1b$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> I still have no idea LOL. > > > > A guy sees how many different colors of lipstick he can collect on > > his johnson, get it? > > > > > > > > LOL... seems very one sided to me. And that's a problem why, exactly? :-D From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:36:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: I > might make out the best because I was paying through the nose for the > PPO, everyone who took the cheaper plan is going to get less help > from the company, "as is the industry standard", they say. Do you have a flex spending account? I normally put in at least the amount of my deductible for the year plus whatever med/dental work I know I'll be having. Right now I *think* I might need a root canal for a molar that already has a crown, but I'm not sure.....hate to put in the money for that and end up not being able to use it...... Speaking of health, knock on wood, I may be on my way to being cured of what ails me! I got a scrip from the gastro guy I saw last week for Flagyl in case my intestinal problems got worse, they did over the weekend, so I started taking it and this morning I woke up with no swelling in my hands and my leg muscles aren't achy! And I didn't have the runs yesterday either, I had lost 5 lbs in 3 days, gained back 2 lbs yesterday. My fingers were so swollen Saturday morning that I couldn't make a fist. Of course now that I've started taking the Flagyl I can't have a cocktail or two at our work Xmas party this Friday :-\ Oh well, at least I won't have to worry about being careful about how much I drink. The rheumy guy wanted to blame my joint pain on gout, didn't believe me when I told him about my big toe x-rays that clearly showed calcium deposits that are causing my big toe arthritus. If my pain disappears completely now I'm going to tell him I TOLD YOU IT WASN'T GOUT, YOU MORON! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:37:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I'll do a simple > patch. Instead of running my speaker cable to my speaker, I'll run > it back to the line-in of my soundcard. Then I'll play the WMA file > while recording the line-in using a different program (I use Media > Jukebox, but any audio recorder will work). IIRC I've tried that before and it picked up a lot of noise during the recording phase.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:39:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > > Call me if you have a blizzard. :-) What's your number? We're supposed to get one right in time for this evening's rush hour.....6" - 8" total :-( From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 08:42:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 08:45:01 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crabby! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > Borgholio wrote in news:dmnpen$5fe$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > kram wrote: > >> Photos of the Crab nebula - neato! > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/buy92 > >> > > > > Hmm...needs some talcum powder. > > > > > Too bad that these photos are false color representations.. > Apparently a true view of these objects reveal a haze of greyscales. That's how the CCD detectors work....sorry! From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Mon Dec 5 13:53:00 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Dec 5 09:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0btd63-d1r.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: >> I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I'll do a simple >> patch. Instead of running my speaker cable to my speaker, I'll run >> it back to the line-in of my soundcard. Then I'll play the WMA file >> while recording the line-in using a different program (I use Media >> Jukebox, but any audio recorder will work). > > IIRC I've tried that before and it picked up a lot of noise during the > recording phase.... http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/ You should be able to record right from the mix on your soundcard. No need for cables. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Dec 5 14:22:55 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Dec 5 09:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1fus$ef9$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Redstone wrote: > >> >> Call me if you have a blizzard. :-) > > What's your number? We're supposed to get one right in time for this > evening's rush hour.....6" - 8" total :-( > > > Well this morning we have a wind chill of -32C, -25.6F and blowing snow. Glad I don't have to go anywhere this morning, roads are real bad. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 09:26:41 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 09:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:dn0sat$4js$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Is it just me or do you just feel this kind of overwhelming neediness in > all of these. I mean I'm not even involved and I feel like yelling, > aack, I need my space. I'm not saying it is everything and all the > time, but you can be an alcoholic without drinking every day. There is > just that edge to all of these. You know, it isn't about the t-shirt at > all, by the way. Is this the 3rd or 4th one of these, sort of heading > down the same terrain again. Nope, not just you. Pete's well-meaning, but I think he smothers and doesn't really listen to what the other person is saying, verbally or non-verbally. I'm also kind of struck by Pete's failure to grasp the inappropriateness of buying tiny little sexy 'baby doll' t-shirts for women he is not romantically/intimately involved with (if I am following the saga correctly). If a male "friend" bought me a sexy little number meant to show off my boobs, I'd be seriously creeped out and pissed off. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 09:41:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 09:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > > Well this morning we have a wind chill of -32C, -25.6F and blowing > snow. Glad I don't have to go anywhere this morning, roads are real > bad. And I just can't wait to have to drive home tonight, in the dark, in a blinding snow storm....can't afford to leave early either. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Dec 5 14:57:28 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1jij$g9l$1@news.spamcop.net: > And I just can't wait to have to drive home tonight, in the dark, in a > blinding snow storm....can't afford to leave early either. Got a couch at the office? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 09:58:59 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-947FD5.18072104122005@news.cesmail.net... > > I don't find myself misunderstood very often. It happens occasionally, > like with everyone, but no more than I suspect is normal. I think you might be more than a little wrong there.... > > For me, the worst part is being misunderstood when there's some sort of > relationship conflict going on. I'm the type who wants to sit down, put > all the cards on the table, address the issue directly, reach a > solution, and get on with things. I speak clearly, openly, and without > any sort of hidden messages...but whenever something like that happens, > the other person suspects some sort of ulterior motive or sneakiness[1] > and acts accordingly. I suspect exactly the opposite is true, intentionally or unintentionally - there may not be hidden messages, but perhaps hidden motives which girls can sense and want to back away from. Example (may be the case here, may not), you claim out loud and to her face you only want to be friends with a girl, then you want to buy her an article of clothing that is body hugging and meant to show off her figure and that you want to see her in (go re-read your response to Red on the size) - that is NOT what you do with 'friends', at least not friends you're not intimately involved with, and that kind of attention coming from someone that you're NOT involved with is just creepy. > > I'd like to give her something more, of course. BUT SHE DOESN'T WANT "MORE", she's made that quite clear. What part of "no" are you not clear on? Personally, I'd like to > go out there and visit, spend some time with her, etc. But not only is > that not possible, but it would likely not be good right now. This is what you're not reading. If she's freaked out by a t-shirt, why in the HELL would she want you to come and visit? Can you not read between the lines here? > > As I said I would _like_ to give her something she'd really enjoy, but > a simple geeky t-shirt (she's a math major, and its a t-shirt with the > first 4493 digits of Pi arranged to form a big Pi symbol[2]) seemed a > bit more appropriate. I guess not. Oh well. Who's the 'baby doll' t-shirt for? > Perhaps in a bit she'll understand this...it's not to terribly hard to > understand, particularly when I'm upfront about it, etc. It's $18...oh > no, far too rich of a present! Gah. You're not listening to what she's saying and you're not reading her reaction to your intentions. She does not want to resolve anything, she wants you to leave her alone, however pitifully bad she is at actually verbalizing it. > > [1] When good friends of mine get really sick, I like to bring them > soup, some snacks, etc. When they're too far away, I mail a can of soup, > some chocolate, butterscotch, and a get-well card. I sent out about four > parcels to sick friends in about a week, this girl included. The other > three all reacted with "Thank you! That hit the spot!" and other such > stuff...this girl thought it was some sort of act of desperation or some > such, even when I _clearly_ told her why I did that, told her about it > beforehand, etc. Argh. That's because THEY are not threatened by your intentions, SHE IS. At some point she has told you she is not interested in a relationship, yet you persist being "nice" to her. It's irritating as hell, because what she probably wants and won't actually say is for you to just go away and leave her alone. To her it IS desperation when you try to 'win her over' with 'kindnesses'. It's annoying, cloying and disturbing when someone will not back off even after you've told them you're not interested. > [2] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6f63/ > "Stretchy and fitted, not baggy like the guys' stuff!" Stretchy and especially FITTED, for a woman with big boobs, is not appropriate to give to female "friends", especially one who's told you she's not interested in a romantic relationship. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Mon Dec 5 14:59:23 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:dn0sat$4js$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Is it just me or do you just feel this kind of overwhelming neediness in >> all of these. I mean I'm not even involved and I feel like yelling, >> aack, I need my space. I'm not saying it is everything and all the >> time, but you can be an alcoholic without drinking every day. There is >> just that edge to all of these. You know, it isn't about the t-shirt at >> all, by the way. Is this the 3rd or 4th one of these, sort of heading >> down the same terrain again. > > Nope, not just you. Pete's well-meaning, but I think he smothers and doesn't really > listen to what the other person is saying, verbally or non-verbally. I'm also kind > of struck by Pete's failure to grasp the inappropriateness of buying tiny little sexy > 'baby doll' t-shirts for women he is not romantically/intimately involved with (if I > am following the saga correctly). If a male "friend" bought me a sexy little number > meant to show off my boobs, I'd be seriously creeped out and pissed off. I guess I actually missed the part about it being a sexy t-shirt. I just saw all the language in there, "special gift", "feel like we are married", and so on. It almost feels like a gift of a rock with some mud on it would still feel strange with all that was poured into it. That's why it doesn't feel like the t-shirt itself is the problem but what the t-shirt is supposed to mean. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Dec 5 15:06:21 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dn1kku$h1s$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> [2] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6f63/ >> > "Stretchy and fitted, not baggy like the guys' stuff!" Stretchy and > especially > FITTED, for a woman with big boobs, is not appropriate to give to female > "friends", > especially one who's told you she's not interested in a romantic > relationship. > Awww... shucks, give him some slack - he's only a young 'un - he doesn't understand these things yet...... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:10:25 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:f71e63-n3s.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > > I guess I actually missed the part about it being a sexy t-shirt. I > just saw all the language in there, "special gift", "feel like we are > married", and so on. It almost feels like a gift of a rock with some > mud on it would still feel strange with all that was poured into it. > That's why it doesn't feel like the t-shirt itself is the problem but > what the t-shirt is supposed to mean. I'ts 'form fitting', which is inappropriate, considering the situation, any gift with more intimacy than a chia pet is inappropriate. She says 'back off', and he still wants to 'resolve things'. Therein lies the problem. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:12:24 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dn1kku$h1s$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> [2] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6f63/ >> > "Stretchy and fitted, not baggy like the guys' stuff!" Stretchy and > especially > FITTED, for a woman with big boobs, is not appropriate to give to female > "friends", > especially one who's told you she's not interested in a romantic > relationship. > It is difficult enough buying clothing for one's wife, nevermind, someone you're less involved with. You're probably on to something about Pete's ability to read women. That T-shirt reminds me of certain male oriented establishments. Pete may prefer to do his Xmas shopping at Hooters. :o) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:18:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn1jij$g9l$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > And I just can't wait to have to drive home tonight, in the dark, > > in a blinding snow storm....can't afford to leave early either. > > Got a couch at the office? Nope. I wish....just a few pillows for napping on the floor when I'm not feeling well. Could never sleep all night that way though. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:20:00 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dn1l1o$hga$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Awww... shucks, give him some slack - he's only a young 'un - he doesn't > understand these things yet...... Unfortunately he seems relatively uninterested in learning from prior experiences - at some point you have to think 'why does this keep happening, is it me?', and usually the answer is 'yes', which is an opportunity to change your behavior. One good thing about getting older, reality checks are often mailed in advance. ;) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Dec 5 15:22:31 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1lnm$hrc$1@news.spamcop.net: > Nope. I wish....just a few pillows for napping on the floor when I'm not > feeling well. Could never sleep all night that way though. Maybe you should get one of those inflatable beds? They have some now that are as comfortable as a regular bed. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:26:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn1lnm$hrc$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Nope. I wish....just a few pillows for napping on the floor when > > I'm not feeling well. Could never sleep all night that way though. > > Maybe you should get one of those inflatable beds? They have some now > that are as comfortable as a regular bed. Or a plain old pool float cushion thingie would do, too, if I bought an air compressor to inflate it..... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Mon Dec 5 15:26:11 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:dn1kku$h1s$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>> [2] http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/ladies/6f63/ >>> >> "Stretchy and fitted, not baggy like the guys' stuff!" Stretchy and >> especially >> FITTED, for a woman with big boobs, is not appropriate to give to female >> "friends", >> especially one who's told you she's not interested in a romantic >> relationship. > > Awww... shucks, give him some slack - he's only a young 'un - he doesn't > understand these things yet...... Well, in some ways, I don't really have a problem with any of what he is doing, but there is a right time and right person for all of this. Yes, friends slip into relationships all the time and many times it works out great. And big romantic gestures are fantastic in the right time and place. Maybe even smaller gestures like Pete seems to specialize in are great too, but it has to be the right time and the right person. And whatever women Pete seems to befriend, they don't seem to be the right ones or the right time for it. I just get the feeling from every one of these incidents, that despite what he is saying, somewhere hidden in the back of his mind there is that hey, maybe you are The One and it just colors everything else that goes on in the friendship. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:30:31 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn1m6g$i30$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Or a plain old pool float cushion thingie would do, too, if I bought an air > compressor to inflate it..... > Silly boy, buy yourself an Aero Bed, they have pumps attached that automatically inflate them, they're the bomb if you need an instant bed, you know, for picnics and things... ;) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:38:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn1m6g$i30$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Or a plain old pool float cushion thingie would do, too, if I > > bought an air compressor to inflate it..... > > > Silly boy, buy yourself an Aero Bed, they have pumps attached that > automatically inflate them, they're the bomb if you need an instant > bed, you know, for picnics and things... ;) Carry one in the trunk for, ah, those moments when you just can't wait to get home, is that what you mean? (the backseat of my car *is* pretty small, afterall ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:39:15 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn1foi$eej$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Do you have a flex spending account? I normally put in at least the amount > of my deductible for the year plus whatever med/dental work I know I'll be > having. Right now I *think* I might need a root canal for a molar that > already has a crown, but I'm not sure.....hate to put in the money for that > and end up not being able to use it...... I do, I put $800 into it, which covers my deductible and most of the $700 out pocket costs. I blew through that by June. I should rethink that this year, the OOP costs are higher, and they only cover 90% of stuff, so I could end up with more than last year to pay for. > > Speaking of health, knock on wood, I may be on my way to being cured of what > ails me! I got a scrip from the gastro guy I saw last week for Flagyl in > case my intestinal problems got worse, they did over the weekend, so I > started taking it and this morning I woke up with no swelling in my hands > and my leg muscles aren't achy! All this time we thought you had digestive problems, turns out, you got BEAVER FEVER!! ;D What water have you been drinking? And I didn't have the runs yesterday either, > I had lost 5 lbs in 3 days, gained back 2 lbs yesterday. My fingers were so > swollen Saturday morning that I couldn't make a fist. Of course now that > I've started taking the Flagyl I can't have a cocktail or two at our work > Xmas party this Friday :-\ Oh well, at least I won't have to worry about > being careful about how much I drink. How long do you have to take Flagyl, ten days? > > The rheumy guy wanted to blame my joint pain on gout, didn't believe me when > I told him about my big toe x-rays that clearly showed calcium deposits that > are causing my big toe arthritus. If my pain disappears completely now I'm > going to tell him I TOLD YOU IT WASN'T GOUT, YOU MORON! Gout is a rather bizarre diagnosis, especially considering your dietary habits aren't all THAT bad. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:40:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dmqdml$kur$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I've never heard of insurance costs going DOWN, and certainly not by 400%! > Sounds like you guys were getting royally screwed by your old provider. By the way - does your health insurance have a one million dollar lifetime limit? I thought that was pretty common, or maybe its' just where I work.... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:47:15 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dn1la2$hif$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I'ts 'form fitting', which is inappropriate, considering the situation, > any gift > with more intimacy than a chia pet is inappropriate. IMO, similar clothing is questionable even if the woman is buying it for herself. My sweet, but hopelessly naive little sister, who is 13 years younger, but old enough to know better, was wearing a T-shirt like that this summer with the words "Blow Pops" and some companion artwork. She freaked when I suggested that the word blow might have a double meaning and be taken the wrong way. Had to be there, but it was a good laugh for both of us. She makes an excellent model for such clothing, but brotherly concern causes me to question the type of men that might be attracted. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Dec 5 07:48:58 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > I'ts 'form fitting', which is inappropriate, considering the > situation, any gift with more intimacy than a chia pet is > inappropriate. She says 'back off', and he still wants to 'resolve > things'. Therein lies the problem. Perhaps you and I disagree then. I don't really consider a t-shirt to be more intimate than a chia pet, regardless of its shape. I thought she'd enjoy a shirt like this because a) she enjoys geeky stuff, and b) she enjoys wearing fitting clothing and doesn't have enough of it. It's not like I bought lingere or anything... And do you enjoy having interpersonal problems? I sure don't. I dislike being kept in limbo or having unresolved problems. I hardly think it unreasonable to want to resolve a conflict that's been brewing for a while now, regardless of the presence or absence of Christmas and associated gift-giving. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:50:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > All this time we thought you had digestive problems, turns out, you > got BEAVER FEVER!! ;D What water have you been drinking? What's beaver fever? Giardiasis? I can't remember whether they tested me for that last time or not, but it sure as hell seems like what I have.....the malabsorbtion could lead to all the other symptoms I've been having besides the diarrhea, I'm guessing. What signs and symptoms does giardiasis cause? The most common manifestations of giardiasis are diarrhea and abdominal pain, particularly cramping; however, diarrhea is not invariable and occurs in 60 to 90% of patients. Other common manifestations include bloating, nausea with or without vomiting, malaise, and fatigue. Fever is unusual. The severity of the symptoms may vary greatly from mild or no symptoms to severe symptoms. Stools may be foul smelling when the Giardia interferes with the absorption of fat from the intestine (malabsorption). The illness or the malabsorption may cause loss of weight. > > How long do you have to take Flagyl, ten days? 7 days. Only side affect so far is a lousy taste in my mouth. If I get away with just that I'll be a happy camper, some folks get really bad side affects. > > Gout is a rather bizarre diagnosis, especially considering your > dietary habits aren't all THAT bad. No kidding. I try to eat a low fat (non-rich) diet because of my cholesterol/triglyceride problem....speaking of which, that description above says Giardia interferes with absorption of fat -- could that be why I have such high triglycerides? I was in Cancun in 1999, this bug may have been living in me for that long but I didn't become overwhelmed by it until my immune system went down after my neck surgeries. Make sense to you? That's about when my blood fat went out of control too.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 10:51:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 10:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dmqdml$kur$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I've never heard of insurance costs going DOWN, and certainly not > > by 400%! Sounds like you guys were getting royally screwed by your > > old provider. > > By the way - does your health insurance have a one million dollar > lifetime limit? I thought that was pretty common, or maybe its' just > where I work.... Yeah, it's either $1 mil or $1.5 mil, I forget. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 11:07:38 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Dec 5 11:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-14D1CF.07485705122005@news.cesmail.net... > > And do you enjoy having interpersonal problems? I sure don't. I dislike > being kept in limbo or having unresolved problems. I hardly think it > unreasonable to want to resolve a conflict that's been brewing for a > while now, regardless of the presence or absence of Christmas and > associated gift-giving. > Who had/caused the problem? You or her? If the problem was you, and she is not interested in "resolving" it, that is a very big hint. And if the relationship wasn't all that close to begin with, it isn't always appropriate to even try to "resolve" a problem. Given your past posts, it seems you're either way too nice to people that don't have the same feelings toward you...or you're a borderline stalker. If a woman is really interested in you, they'll usually make it pretty obvious...and if not, you're wasting your time. Try not to smother people, especially if they're not showing much interest in having a deeper relationship. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 11:22:56 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 11:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn1nko$iqs$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> What's beaver fever? Giardiasis? I can't remember whether they tested me for > that last time or not, but it sure as hell seems like what I have.....the > malabsorbtion could lead to all the other symptoms I've been having besides > the diarrhea, I'm guessing. So have you been diving in water hazards or what? > > 7 days. Only side affect so far is a lousy taste in my mouth. If I get away > with just that I'll be a happy camper, some folks get really bad side > affects. I think there's probably a Herxheimer reaction to be aware of too, did anyone talk to you about that? I'm guessing not... http://home.pon.net/caat/lyme/treatment1.htm#herx "Herx This term is short for the "Jarisch- Herxheimer" reaction . When certain bacteria including Lyme are killed they release toxins which can increase your symptoms for a while. If you are herxing- you know that the antibiotic is having an effect. Some of your symptoms seem worse- others may start to feel better. Some symptoms you've never had before may come up. Herxes can be occasionally be scarey and it is sometimes difficult to know exactly what is going on. People are usually advised by experienced doctors to cut back on medication if a herx is so strong it could do permanent damage. OTOH sometimes there is no earthly way around "no pain no gain". It can be difficult with some medications (Flagyl for instance) to know whether an effect is a herx or a side effect of the medication and a herx can be also confused with allergies. Lyme herxes tend to take longer to manifest than syphilis herxes. Syphilis herxes can take effect within an hour of treatment. Lyme commonly takes a day or 3 or 4, but not all lyme strains follow that timing. There's a lot of variation between strains and not much information on them. Co-infections can complicate this." > No kidding. I try to eat a low fat (non-rich) diet because of my > cholesterol/triglyceride problem....speaking of which, that description > above says Giardia interferes with absorption of fat -- could that be why I > have such high triglycerides? I was in Cancun in 1999, this bug may have > been living in me for that long but I didn't become overwhelmed by it until > my immune system went down after my neck surgeries. Make sense to you? > That's about when my blood fat went out of control too.... > Could make a lot of sense, especially if you've had multiple courses of antibiotics in a relatively short period of time for the surgery and what not. Antibiotics create the imbalance that might have allowed it to flourish whereas before it was sort of kept in check by your system. If you haven't got some probiotics, (PB8 is a good one), get some and start taking them now at opposite times from the flagyl, they'll help rebalance you with good bugs while you're taking it. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 11:47:23 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Dec 5 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-14D1CF.07485705122005@news.cesmail.net... > > Perhaps you and I disagree then. I don't really consider a t-shirt to be > more intimate than a chia pet, regardless of its shape. I thought she'd > enjoy a shirt like this because a) she enjoys geeky stuff, and b) she > enjoys wearing fitting clothing and doesn't have enough of it. It is not a "t-shirt" like the baggy kind you wear to the gym. It is a form fitting, body hugging article of clothing, which has sexual connotations, especially coming from someone who once was a 'boyfriend' or whatever and someone to whom she apparently wants no emotional attachment. Would you buy your mother a t-shirt like that? Or your sister? Go back read your response to Red and ask yourself if your intentions were indeed entirely innocent and devoid of intimate intent. > > It's not like I bought lingere or anything... Yes it is, and that's where you lose the plot. Anything that's revealing, tight, screams 'sexual'. Clothing is an intimate gift. And she's not comfortable with that, especially coming from someone she has told "no". If she wears it, if she buys it for herself, that's her business. Coming from someone that isn't intimate with her, it's creepy. > And do you enjoy having interpersonal problems? I sure don't. I dislike > being kept in limbo or having unresolved problems. I hardly think it > unreasonable to want to resolve a conflict that's been brewing for a > while now, regardless of the presence or absence of Christmas and > associated gift-giving. No one enjoys having interpersonal problems, but gee whiz, get a clue. What's to be resolved? She seems to have made her feelings quite clear, although IMO she's being a total shit by not being direct and allowing it to linger and limp along. Perhaps she's trying to spare your feelings or perhaps she's being cowardly by not telling you very directly that she's not interested in a relationship of any kind with you. She's certainly a lousy friend to you, I don't yell at my friends and tell them I won't speak to them if they buy me a Christmas present, that's not what friends do. Why on earth would you want a one sided 'relationship'? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 12:09:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Dec 5 12:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > So have you been diving in water hazards or what? Holy goose shit Batgirl! Guess what waterfoul hangs out at golf courses and craps all over the place? And there ain't no places to wash your hands if you grab something to eat from the cart girl.....I try to be careful about it, but it's very possible that's the source..... > > > > 7 days. Only side affect so far is a lousy taste in my mouth. If I > > get away with just that I'll be a happy camper, some folks get > > really bad side affects. > > I think there's probably a Herxheimer reaction to be aware of too, > did anyone talk to you about that? I'm guessing not... No, but I read about it online this morning. Kind of like the yeast die-off affect I suffered through in the spring. If you haven't got some probiotics, (PB8 is a good > one), get some and start taking them now at opposite times from the > flagyl, they'll help rebalance you with good bugs while you're taking > it. I've been taking a good probiotic all summer, but without curing the underlying problem it was just barely keeping me going. I can't believe how pain free I feel today, I'm almost scared it's not for real...... From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Dec 5 09:44:23 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Dec 5 12:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I'll do a simple >> patch. Instead of running my speaker cable to my speaker, I'll run >>it back to the line-in of my soundcard. Then I'll play the WMA file >>while recording the line-in using a different program (I use Media >>Jukebox, but any audio recorder will work). > > > IIRC I've tried that before and it picked up a lot of noise during the > recording phase.... > > Hmm...I could try a media capture device instead. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 11:46:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Mon Dec 5 14:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone been out celebrating the UK's new licensing laws yet? References: Message-ID: In news:Xns972225B24D526tinlc@216.154.195.61, Redstone opined: || David Dean wrote in news:ozchzhq02- || EFBD45.07111903122005@frylock.local: || ||| ||| But can you imagine if Denny's was allowed to serve alcohol at ||| that hour? ||| || || Then we'd definitely have problems. They would end up with the || boozers coming from the bars the closed at 1 AM. Try living in Las Vegas where _everything_ is 24/7 ... Things don't close here - ever. Except for one Walgreens a few blocks from me that closes at 10 pm. And where, by the way, while you are waiting for your prescriptions to be filled, you can lose the money to pay for them in the slot machines ;) -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Dec 5 13:45:54 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Dec 5 16:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "Eponym" wrote: > Who had/caused the problem? You or her? If the problem was you, and she is > not interested in "resolving" it, that is a very big hint. And if the > relationship wasn't all that close to begin with, it isn't always > appropriate to even try to "resolve" a problem. It was started by an event outside of our control (a major schedule conflict, being very busy with school, work, etc.) that was exacerbated by both of us through different actions. She's said she's been interested in resolving the conflict, but hasn't really gone into much detail. She's indicated that she'll have time available to deal with it around the Christmas holiday...which is five months after everything started. She's said quite clearly[1] that although this situation is causing both of us to be mad at each other, she still has affection for me, and would consider a relationship in the future if the situation presents itself. Either way, I don't really want to get into more details here. > Given your past posts, it seems you're either way too nice to people that > don't have the same feelings toward you...or you're a borderline stalker. Based on my healthy, friendly relationships with all but one of my ex-girlfriends (long story, bad breakup), I would posit that it would be the former rather than the latter. > If a woman is really interested in you, they'll usually make it pretty > obvious...and if not, you're wasting your time. Try not to smother people, > especially if they're not showing much interest in having a deeper > relationship. Agreed. The problem with her is a lot of mixed signals that I'm getting. It's just too much hassle right now. [1] She does not lie about this sort of thing, not even white lies. She made it exceedingly clear that there are no ulterior or hidden motives involved here. I, for one, believe her. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Dec 5 13:59:52 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Dec 5 17:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > It is not a "t-shirt" like the baggy kind you wear to the gym. It is > a form fitting, body hugging article of clothing, which has sexual > connotations, especially coming from someone who once was a > 'boyfriend' or whatever and someone to whom she apparently wants no > emotional attachment. *shrugs* It happens to be a very common style for girls to wear these days. I would hardly think it unusual. > Would you buy your mother a t-shirt like that? No, my mother does not wear clothing like that. > Or your sister? Sure. I have done so in the past. > Go back read your response to Red and ask yourself if your intentions > were indeed entirely innocent and devoid of intimate intent. I can see how you would perceive some sort of intimate intent. Let me break it down a bit more simply: If she and I were in an intimate relationship, then perhaps having a shirt that's "too small" might be a benefit in certain situations. Right now, that is not my intent...which is why I bought a shirt that is a more appropriate size, in a style common amongst females today, in a style which I think she'll like. Honestly, any sort of sexual or intimate thoughts did not cross my mind during the purchasing process. > > It's not like I bought lingere or anything... > > Yes it is, and that's where you lose the plot. Anything that's > revealing, tight, screams 'sexual'. Clothing is an intimate gift. > And she's not comfortable with that, especially coming from someone > she has told "no". If she wears it, if she buys it for herself, > that's her business. Coming from someone that isn't intimate with > her, it's creepy. I'm afraid I don't really see clothing as being an intimate gift...they're clothes. I would see buying intimates or lingere to be an intimate, personal, and sexually-charged thing...but a shirt? Maybe you and I think differently...and perhaps she and I think different. It's a possibility. > No one enjoys having interpersonal problems, but gee whiz, get a > clue. What's to be resolved? Er, the ongoing conflict? I'm not going to go into any details now, but I'll say that neither she nor I consider the issue to be resolved. > She seems to have made her feelings quite clear, although IMO she's > being a total shit by not being direct and allowing it to linger and > limp along. I agree that she's not handling this in a good way. I've made mistakes in the past in regards to this issue (and probably will make more in the future, though I strive to learn and improve myself), and she's making a mistake by handling this in a sub-optimal way. > Perhaps she's trying to spare your feelings or perhaps she's being > cowardly by not telling you very directly that she's not interested > in a relationship of any kind with you. On the contrary, she's said different things. When we've talked, she's been very upfront and honest about her feelings. She's stated that she's pissed at me (and I with her), but still cares for me, misses me, dislikes this situation, and would seriously consider a relationship in the past if the situation presents itself. > She's certainly a lousy friend to you, I don't yell at my friends and > tell them I won't speak to them if they buy me a Christmas present, > that's not what friends do. Why on earth would you want a one sided > 'relationship'? I agree, she's handling this in a really lousy way. And I most certainly do _not_ want a one-sided relationship. The relationship that she and I shared was a definite two-way relationship with much affection, kind words, deeds, etc. exchanged. Due to circumstances not entirely out of our control, this changed in August and has been building to a head since then (we're both irritated at the situation, but a molehill has definitely turned into a mountain). It's just that right now, I'm willing to spare the time and energy in an effort to resolve the situation (or at least prevent it from getting worse). She says that she's way too busy with stuff there (and indeed, she goes to school full time, works full time, and is up to her neck with stress, anxiety, etc.) to deal with the situation now ("now" evidently meaning "this semester"). I'm the type of guy who doesn't like to go to bed angry with someone. Dealing with this whole situation for several months now has been unpleasant. I'm rapidly losing patience. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 17:29:58 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Dec 5 17:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-B6BBD8.13455405122005@news.cesmail.net... > > She's said she's been interested in resolving the conflict, but hasn't > really gone into much detail. She's indicated that she'll have time > available to deal with it around the Christmas holiday...which is five > months after everything started. She's said quite clearly[1] that > although this situation is causing both of us to be mad at each other, > she still has affection for me, and would consider a relationship in the > future if the situation presents itself. > Taking this at face value, actions speak louder than words. I'd move on and reevaluate later IF she contacts you. >> If a woman is really interested in you, they'll usually make it pretty >> obvious...and if not, you're wasting your time. Try not to smother >> people, >> especially if they're not showing much interest in having a deeper >> relationship. > > Agreed. The problem with her is a lot of mixed signals that I'm getting. > It's just too much hassle right now. > All the more reason to move on. No point in wasting time and money on people that can't decide whether you're of any interest to them. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Dec 5 14:57:14 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Dec 5 18:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > > All the more reason to move on. No point in wasting time and money on > people that can't decide whether you're of any interest to them. > > Was in that exact situation myself a couple years ago with this chick from Wyoming. I'm sure some of the regulars here remember THAT fiasco... This is good advice, Pete. Listen to it. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 17:48:50 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Dec 5 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn1s8m$l9t$1@news.spamcop.net... | Spamvireslayer wrote: | > | > So have you been diving in water hazards or what? | | Holy goose shit Batgirl! Guess what waterfowl hangs out at golf courses and | craps all over the place? And there ain't no places to wash your hands if | you grab something to eat from the cart girl.....I try to be careful about | it, but it's very possible that's the source..... Get yourself some waterless hand cleaner. Does a better job of the nasties than soap and water. Side benefit, if used regularly, helps reduce one's exposure to the flu. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 17:52:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Dec 5 18:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > I haven't actually bought anything yet, but I think I'll do a simple | > patch. Instead of running my speaker cable to my speaker, I'll run | > it back to the line-in of my soundcard. Then I'll play the WMA file | > while recording the line-in using a different program (I use Media | > Jukebox, but any audio recorder will work). | | IIRC I've tried that before and it picked up a lot of noise during the | recording phase.... Possibly an impedance mismatch that is introducing the noise. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Dec 5 20:45:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Dec 5 20:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-> > *shrugs* It happens to be a very common style for girls to wear these > days. I would hardly think it unusual. You still aren't getting the point - clothing is an intimate gift. If buying her anything makes her angry and not willing to talk to you, it's TOO MUCH. > I can see how you would perceive some sort of intimate intent. The very fact that you are still trying to get somewhere with her is rife with intent. > Honestly, any sort of sexual or intimate thoughts did not cross my mind > during the purchasing process. Of course they did, you're still trying to get her attention by buying her gifts that she says she doesn't want. Why can you not take no for an answer? > I'm afraid I don't really see clothing as being an intimate > gift...they're clothes. Well Pete, that's where I have the advantage over you. It's the gesture as much as the article, you are trying to dress her, that's possessive and cloying and desperate. Unlike you, I am a woman, and if someone I told I didn't want a relationship with bought me clothing (or anything at all) after I'd told him "not interested" he'd be told not too delicately to give it up and bugger off, no means no, and buying someone clothing is just plain unwelcome. I would see buying intimates or lingere to be > an intimate, personal, and sexually-charged thing...but a shirt? Maybe > you and I think differently...and perhaps she and I think different. > It's a possibility. Um no, she and I think alike, you still refuse to concede that you're wrong and listen to what you're being told. > > Er, the ongoing conflict? I'm not going to go into any details now, but > I'll say that neither she nor I consider the issue to be resolved. If she wanted to resolve things with you, she would be all over you like white on rice. That's how girls are. She's either got someone else in her sights and is keeping you hanging around as second choice, or she's just too gutless to say "I'm all done with this". > > I agree that she's not handling this in a good way. I've made mistakes > in the past in regards to this issue (and probably will make more in > the future, though I strive to learn and improve myself), and she's > making a mistake by handling this in a sub-optimal way. Learn and improve yourself by listening to what people tell you, instead of getting all wrapped up in what you think she's thinking. The bottom line is she's not interested, she just won't say it. > > On the contrary, she's said different things. When we've talked, she's > been very upfront and honest about her feelings. She's stated that > she's pissed at me (and I with her), but still cares for me, misses me, > dislikes this situation, and would seriously consider a relationship in > the past if the situation presents itself. She's got someone else in mind and you are "just in case". If she wanted to be with you, she would have "resolved" this long ago, she doesn't. > I agree, she's handling this in a really lousy way. And I most certainly > do _not_ want a one-sided relationship. But you have one. And the more you keep at her the more one sided it's going to get. Take the hint.... The relationship that she and I > shared was a definite two-way relationship with much affection, kind > words, deeds, etc. exchanged. Right, and "something" happened, she backed off overnight and now won't talk about it. Read between the lines....girls just plain don't act like that unless they lose interest. > It's just that right now, I'm willing to spare the time and energy in an > effort to resolve the situation (or at least prevent it from getting > worse). She says that she's way too busy with stuff there (and indeed, > she goes to school full time, works full time, and is up to her neck > with stress, anxiety, etc.) to deal with the situation now ("now" > evidently meaning "this semester"). > > I'm the type of guy who doesn't like to go to bed angry with someone. > Dealing with this whole situation for several months now has been > unpleasant. I'm rapidly losing patience. Do yourself a big favor and walk away now. Total silence for at least a month. Let her come to you if she wants to 'resolve things'. I would not hold my breath if I were you. All the excuses in the world are not going to change the fact that if a woman is interested in a man, she does not shut him out of her life when she's busy, he becomes a part of her life as a source of support and comfort, and not a bicycle to be put away and only played with when there's spare time. You could allow her to continue to jerk you around and continue to be miserable about it, or you could for once decide to give her what she wants. Quite liberating, actually. People who treat you like crap are not needed in life. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Dec 5 19:29:45 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Dec 5 22:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > You still aren't getting the point - clothing is an intimate gift. > If buying her anything makes her angry and not willing to talk to > you, it's TOO MUCH. No, I guess I'm not getting the point. I don't consider clothing to be an intimate gift. I've had female friends I know (and with whom I have no romantic interest in) give me clothes (all geeky t-shirts) without any sort of issue at all. Now, this particular girl told me that she didn't want the shirt *AFTER* she told me her size, and *AFTER* I placed the order. She made no indication that she didn't want the shirt until she saw the price (a whopping $17.99). > > I can see how you would perceive some sort of intimate intent. > > The very fact that you are still trying to get somewhere with her is > rife with intent. Er, what? > > Honestly, any sort of sexual or intimate thoughts did not cross my > > mind during the purchasing process. > > Of course they did, you're still trying to get her attention by > buying her gifts that she says she doesn't want. Why can you not > take no for an answer? I would be most appreciative if you would not tell me what I am or am not thinking, or what my intentions are or are not. You sound like my mother, and that's not a good thing. > Do yourself a big favor and walk away now. Total silence for at > least a month. Let her come to you if she wants to 'resolve > things'. Wise and prudent advice. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Tue Dec 6 09:56:53 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Dec 6 05:00:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] What a contrast Message-ID: Interesting. Gay marriage should be here on the 21st and I haven't seen a single this is the end of civilization as we know it article yet. Well, not that it isn't news but it isn't really much at all. There has been a bit of speculation over whether George Michael will get married or not. But fox hunting had like 8000 times more stories than this one. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 09:03:55 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 09:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:dn3n96$kmo$1@news.spamcop.net... > Interesting. Gay marriage should be here on the 21st and I haven't seen > a single this is the end of civilization as we know it article yet. > Well, not that it isn't news but it isn't really much at all. There has > been a bit of speculation over whether George Michael will get married > or not. But fox hunting had like 8000 times more stories than this one. I think Elton John said he was going to jump the broom too.....Is foxhunting over yet or does it take effect in 06? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 09:23:57 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 09:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-702FA7.19294505122005@news.cesmail.net... > > No, I guess I'm not getting the point. I don't consider clothing to be > an intimate gift. I've had female friends I know (and with whom I have > no romantic interest in) give me clothes (all geeky t-shirts) without > any sort of issue at all. Put yourself in her shoes. Someone you thought you liked but have now decided that is only best as a casual if not distant aquaintance still wants a 'relationship' and to buy you gifts for Christmas, and wants you to wear the clothes she buys you (the stamp of posession). You wouldn't be heebed out by that? > Now, this particular girl told me that she didn't want the shirt > *AFTER* she told me her size, and *AFTER* I placed the order. She made > no indication that she didn't want the shirt until she saw the price (a > whopping $17.99). Puts that Chia Pet she bought you to shame, prolly. > > > I can see how you would perceive some sort of intimate intent. > > > > The very fact that you are still trying to get somewhere with her is > > rife with intent. > > Er, what? The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. You're not, and she is. > > I would be most appreciative if you would not tell me what I am or am > not thinking, or what my intentions are or are not. You sound like my > mother, and that's not a good thing. What do you suppose your mother would say? Have you talked to her about this? Your actions speak volumes, the fact that this person has dissed you and has been jacking your around with excuse after excuse about "resolving" things is total bullshit, you know you don't want to be just friends with her, you want more, or else it wouldn't matter at all. You can say I don't know what you're thinking, but even a blind, deaf mute could figure it out. > > > Do yourself a big favor and walk away now. Total silence for at > > least a month. Let her come to you if she wants to 'resolve > > things'. > > Wise and prudent advice. Your mom would say the same thing, you know...... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 09:26:12 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 09:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn1s8m$l9t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Holy goose shit Batgirl! Guess what waterfoul hangs out at golf courses and > craps all over the place? And there ain't no places to wash your hands if > you grab something to eat from the cart girl.....I try to be careful about > it, but it's very possible that's the source..... That's disgusting.....wear gloves or like FP said get some waterless antibacterial hand cleaner... > > I've been taking a good probiotic all summer, but without curing the > underlying problem it was just barely keeping me going. I can't believe how > pain free I feel today, I'm almost scared it's not for real...... So how is it today? From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Tue Dec 6 14:27:00 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Dec 6 09:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:dn3n96$kmo$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Interesting. Gay marriage should be here on the 21st and I haven't seen >> a single this is the end of civilization as we know it article yet. >> Well, not that it isn't news but it isn't really much at all. There has >> been a bit of speculation over whether George Michael will get married >> or not. But fox hunting had like 8000 times more stories than this one. > > I think Elton John said he was going to jump the broom too.....Is foxhunting over yet > or does it take effect in 06? I'm pretty sure it was banned this year, but there were a lot of people who did it anyways. Or they came up with slight variations that were legal, something about killing birds instead, I think. Or they went and started their own foxhunting groups in France. So, Elton John, you know, I'm waiting then for the first celebrity gay divorce. What happens when there are lots of assets to split up, will we get to see some War of the Roses types proceedings then? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 09:44:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 09:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:omjg63-tao.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > > I'm pretty sure it was banned this year, but there were a lot of people > who did it anyways. Or they came up with slight variations that were > legal, something about killing birds instead, I think. Or they went and > started their own foxhunting groups in France. > > So, Elton John, you know, I'm waiting then for the first celebrity gay > divorce. What happens when there are lots of assets to split up, will > we get to see some War of the Roses types proceedings then? Oh, I see they've started drag hunting - we've been doing that over here for years due to the shortage of continuous land over which to hunt. Not the same, though, and I wonder, like they said, how you keep those hounds off a real fox when one comes up. Supposedly they're under the Master's control, har har... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/hampshire/4478606.stm I think the divorce rates for gays are no better than they are for straight couples, when it was legalized in Mass last year it wasn't even 12 months before the first divorces showed up. I imagine it would even be more spectacular and seedy with wads and wads of money involved. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 10:01:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Eponym wrote: > > > > > All the more reason to move on. No point in wasting time and money > > on people that can't decide whether you're of any interest to them. > > > > > > > Was in that exact situation myself a couple years ago with this chick > from Wyoming. I'm sure some of the regulars here remember THAT > fiasco... This is good advice, Pete. Listen to it. Is this the same chick Pete was complaining about several months ago, the one that "didn't have time to return an email or phone call"? Sounds like it....thought he had already moved on from her..... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 10:09:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > > Learn and improve yourself by listening to what people tell you, > instead of getting all wrapped up in what you think she's thinking. > The bottom line is she's not interested, she just won't say it. > > I'd take that statement and twist it around a bit to make it a bit more logical, at least from where I sit and what I've learned (the hard way). DON'T listen to what she says, look at how she acts and what she does and/or doesn't do. I agree that trying to rationalize what's going on in her head (overthinking) is a mistake, it's too easy to fool yourself. All of her actions are saying "go away", and although some of her words may be actually saying "stick around, something may eventually happen", don't believe it. Just walk away. In Pete's defense, I've been there, and it took me until my late 30's to go thru these kinds of things enough times for the light bulb to finally go off.....of course I didn't have the benefit of the wisdom of everyone on this NG to help me wade thru the mental process either (for most of them, at least). From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 10:13:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > Get yourself some waterless hand cleaner. Does a better job of the > nasties than soap and water. Side benefit, if used regularly, helps > reduce one's exposure to the flu. Heh. Great. Another golf idiosyncrasy for my friends to make fun of me over.....but it does make sense.....every pond and lake we stick our hands into to retrieve errant golf balls is likely contaminated with fecal coliform because every golf course with water is home to hundreds of waterfowl. From kenbrody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 09:51:47 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: <4395A583.E047C827@spamcop.net> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: [... gay marriage ...] > So, Elton John, you know, I'm waiting then for the first celebrity gay > divorce. What happens when there are lots of assets to split up, will > we get to see some War of the Roses types proceedings then? I wouldn't expect a gay celebrity divorce to be any different (aside from the media attention, that is) than a hetero celebrity divorce. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 10:14:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > So how is it today? Not too bad, right big toe is slightly sore, just slightly. Hands feel great. Digestive system is hanging in there (knock on wood). Just came from the dentist though, I think I need another *%$#& root canal..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 10:46:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 10:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn49ij$uqf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > I'd take that statement and twist it around a bit to make it a bit more > logical, at least from where I sit and what I've learned (the hard way). > DON'T listen to what she says, look at how she acts and what she does and/or > doesn't do. Zackly.....actions do speak louder than words. I agree that trying to rationalize what's going on in her head > (overthinking) is a mistake, it's too easy to fool yourself. All of her > actions are saying "go away", and although some of her words may be actually > saying "stick around, something may eventually happen", don't believe it. > Just walk away. "She's just not that into you"......sad but true most of the time when someone doesn't respond, no matter what they say. > > In Pete's defense, I've been there, and it took me until my late 30's to go > thru these kinds of things enough times for the light bulb to finally go > off.....of course I didn't have the benefit of the wisdom of everyone on > this NG to help me wade thru the mental process either (for most of them, at > least). We've all done that, overthinking a situation, dramatizing a situation, assuming we know what they're feeling because WE feel that way, I am famous for assigning people nice qualities I want them to have but that they don't necessarily own - surprise of suprises, I was often disappointed when people didn't live up to my fabricated image of them. Often, the plain, cold, hard truth is right there in front of you, but you don't want to admit it. Like I said yesterday, one of the benefits of getting older is that reality checks are often mailed in advance..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 11:40:40 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Dec 6 11:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn49ta$v12$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Not too bad, right big toe is slightly sore, just slightly. Hands feel > great. Digestive system is hanging in there (knock on wood). That's a good sign then! > > Just came from the dentist though, I think I need another *%$#& root > canal..... Getting that done before the end of the year, then? I was surprised that MetLife Dental paid 80% of those, I have a feeling Cigna doesn't. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Tue Dec 6 16:33:25 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Dec 6 12:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message news:dn49ij$uqf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I agree that trying to rationalize what's going on in her head >> (overthinking) is a mistake, it's too easy to fool yourself. All of her >> actions are saying "go away", and although some of her words may be actually >> saying "stick around, something may eventually happen", don't believe it. >> Just walk away. > > "She's just not that into you"......sad but true most of the time when someone > doesn't respond, no matter what they say. And if somebody is really into you, you don't really need to wonder. If somebody is actually really busy, they will find a way, find the time to see you. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 11:40:56 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Dec 6 12:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn49q7$usg$1@news.spamcop.net... | | Frog Prince wrote: | > | > Get yourself some waterless hand cleaner. Does a better job of the | > nasties than soap and water. Side benefit, if used regularly, helps | > reduce one's exposure to the flu. | | Heh. Great. Another golf idiosyncrasy for my friends to make fun of me | over.....but it does make sense.....every pond and lake we stick our hands | into to retrieve errant golf balls is likely contaminated with fecal | coliform because every golf course with water is home to hundreds of | waterfowl. The idea is getting a lot of play in this area. Some stores have big pump dispensers on the counter (a few sell the stuff). FWIW almost all the drug stores and MD's offices do. New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are really big on the use but then they have some really bad stuff running around there. So far what I picked up on my trip last month cost $2000.00+ and rising. Considering that we caught it early enough to avoid a hospital stay I'm big bucks ahead. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 13:48:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 13:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn49ta$v12$1@news.spamcop.net... > > >> Not too bad, right big toe is slightly sore, just slightly. Hands > >> feel > > great. Digestive system is hanging in there (knock on wood). > > That's a good sign then! Yeah, I just don't want to get all excited yet.....but I'm hopeful, that's for damn sure! > > > > Just came from the dentist though, I think I need another *%$#& root > > canal..... > > Getting that done before the end of the year, then? Nope, already maxed out on dental benefits and out-of-pocket maxes don't apply to dental. I'll have to put the money in flex spending for next year. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 13:52:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 13:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > The idea is getting a lot of play in this area. Some stores have big > pump dispensers on the counter (a few sell the stuff). FWIW almost > all the drug stores and MD's offices do. I think laundering my golf towels more often would be a great improvement too -- you wipe the mud and crap off your golf balls with the towels, then wipe your hands (and sometimes face) on the same towels if you're not paying attention. I'm pretty good about keeping "clean" towels for my hands and face, but I can honestly say I don't wash them each time I play. Maybe oughta change that..... From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 11:49:55 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 14:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in news:dmfu1b$uou$2 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >>ROAR!!!! I WILL DOWNLOAD YOUR SOULS!!!! >> > > > you lost your mind, didn't you? No, I found it stuck in the lint trap next to all of my left socks. From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 12:00:28 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Househunting - Reloaded In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmjka9$vf2$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>Well it's approaching the time where I'll be heading out to do my >>footwork. >> I've centered on Oregon and Washington due to the climate and the >>affordability. This presents the problem of how I'm going to get up >>there and do thorough walkthroughs without taking too much time off of >>work (or spending too much money). Anybody ever went shopping for a >>house that's so far away you'd need to fly out to view it? What's the >>best way to go about this? Just take a few days off, schedule lots of >>viewings during that time, then come back in a week or two and repeat >>until you find the right place? >> > > > I'd be inclined to fit as many viewings into as short a period as possible > and hope to not have to rinse and repeat. When we bought our house (in > England) it was a mere 220 miles or so away but we managed to see I don't > know maybe 7 houses over one long weekend and luckily found the one we > wanted. Good luck! 220 miles...not too far. Only about a 4 hour drive or so. Oregon is a 12 hour drive for me. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 12:12:00 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmo353$ev5$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>*shudder* Ok that's it...I'm moving to Nigeria. >> > > > to start up a scam of some sort? At least the corporations aren't in control there. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 12:12:30 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Borgholio wrote in > news:dmo353$ev5$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>*shudder* Ok that's it...I'm moving to Nigeria. >> > > > to start up a scam of some sort? Oh, that reminds me. I don't have much money to spend, so could I get a few donations for plane tickets? :-P From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 12:26:14 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > apparently he's still hassling her... Beg your pardon? She's the one who initiated the whole conversation regarding getting Christmas presents for each other. Kindly don't jump to conclusions. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 12:26:30 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Is this the same chick Pete was complaining about several months ago, > the one that "didn't have time to return an email or phone call"? > Sounds like it....thought he had already moved on from her..... Yup, same girl. Doesn't seem like it's been that long. Time flies when you're having fun, eh? Things were on-and-off for a while, off for a while, and recently this Christmas thing came up. Some people seem to like drama...I'm definitely not one of them. Oh well. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 12:28:32 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:30:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ping Borgholio... Message-ID: http://www.livejournal.com/community/guns/676109.html Aww, yeah. 9 more days! :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 15:29:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn494b$uf1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > Is this the same chick Pete was complaining about several months > > ago, the one that "didn't have time to return an email or phone > > call"? Sounds like it....thought he had already moved on from > > her..... > > > > > > > > apparently he's still hassling her... > > i honestly cannot imagine you behaving like this.. You mean me? I'm not the one doing it! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 15:30:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > > Some people seem to like drama...I'm definitely not one of them. Oh > well. You say that....but you seem to have more than your fair share of it..... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 15:33:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > speaking of golf... got the baboon butt golf club cover for bro in > law for christmas... saw it in a golf store and just had to have it > LOL > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000980QOS/ hehe...those are great...make a terrific gift for one of my golf pals (we call each other gorillas or monkeys after a lousy shot, as in a monkey could have hit the ball better than that ;-) From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 12:33:55 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping Borgholio... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > http://www.livejournal.com/community/guns/676109.html > > Aww, yeah. > > 9 more days! :) > *drool* You son of a..... From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 15:35:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > What is the problem everyone else seems to have with their inkjet > printers? I've got an Epson Stylus R200 and use it maybe twice a > year. So far I haven't had to buy ink for it. Where do you get them > so cheap? > Got mine in a package deal with my scanner, it's a Canon 2210C. And the frigging ink cartridges are clogged up AGAIN! Tried to print something over the weekend, got trash output. I should just invest in a B&W laserjet, I don't need color. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 15:37:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 15:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > It is the one drawback of fellatio as conscientious as hers that it > eliminates the chance for small talk and poetry alike. Eh, wot? Who wants small talk when getting one? ;-) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 13:15:36 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 16:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > You say that....but you seem to have more than your fair share of it..... Indeed. That doesn't mean I like it. :/ -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 13:15:56 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 16:20:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping Borgholio... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > *drool* You son of a..... ...mother? :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Dec 6 13:31:35 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Dec 6 16:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping Borgholio... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>*drool* You son of a..... > > > ...mother? :) > Yeah...that's it. :) How much that thing set you back? From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 13:36:27 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 16:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ping Borgholio... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Yeah...that's it. :) How much that thing set you back? $1,300. About the same price as a new .308 M1A, but belt-fed goodness. And if one takes an M1A or other .308 rifle to a public range, nobody notices. Taking this, I suspect there'll be a few people willing interested in the experience, and possibly willing to pay. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Dec 6 21:39:42 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Dec 6 16:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- E8E0CC.12261406122005@news.cesmail.net: > Beg your pardon? She's the one who initiated the whole conversation > regarding getting Christmas presents for each other. > > Kindly don't jump to conclusions. You know _you_ brought all this up, so anything people say is their opinion, which by starting all of this, you requested. So don't get in a bunch when people say things you don't want to hear. Don't want to hear them, don't post about things that get people speaking their opinions. From blacklist-me at davjam.org Tue Dec 6 21:55:20 2005 From: blacklist-me at davjam.org (David Bolt) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Sylvesterthekat wrote:- >Borgholio wrote in >news:dmo168$dgs$2@news.spamcop.net: > > >> How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At >> least if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you want. >> > >Well... not if sony and others get their way. I wonder if they'll make CDs >that self destruct after so many plays next. You must have missed this little article: which shows they've already made DVDs that "self-destruct" after a few days. Apparently they didn't catch on since I've not yet seen one, nor heard of anyone else seeing them. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ AMD1800 1Gb WinXP/SUSE 9.3 | AMD2400 256Mb SuSE 9.0 | A3010 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 AMD2400(32) 768Mb SUSE 10.0 | RPC600 129Mb RISCOS 3.6 | Falcon 14Mb TOS 4.02 AMD2600(64) 512Mb SUSE 10.0 | A4000 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 | STE 4Mb TOS 1.62 From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 14:04:05 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , JohnL wrote: > You know _you_ brought all this up, so anything people say is their > opinion, which by starting all of this, you requested. So don't get > in a bunch when people say things you don't want to hear. Don't want > to hear them, don't post about things that get people speaking their > opinions. Good pointg. But still, saying I'm "hassling" this particular girl without knowing what led to this recent discussion seems a bit...presumptuous, you know? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 17:08:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: David Bolt wrote: > > You must have missed this little article: > > > > which shows they've already made DVDs that "self-destruct" after a few > days. Apparently they didn't catch on since I've not yet seen one, nor > heard of anyone else seeing them. > Luckily, I'm guessing that the packaging will suffer from severe air leakage problems and never get off the ground. Could you imagine buying one as a present and having it go bad before the recipient got to view it? Lawsuite City. And you can't keep air out, it'll diffuse thru any packaging you can think of. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Dec 6 22:45:18 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- E071B4.14040506122005@news.cesmail.net: > But still, saying I'm "hassling" this particular girl without knowing > what led to this recent discussion seems a bit...presumptuous, you know? All I can say is... Don't like it? Don't talk about it. YOU set yourself up for this From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 14:55:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Dec 6 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: In news:qVoVDH4IjglDFw7x@dev.null.davjam.org, David Bolt opined: || On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Sylvesterthekat wrote:- || ||| Borgholio wrote in ||| news:dmo168$dgs$2@news.spamcop.net: ||| ||| |||| How many music fans would refuse to buy music if they did that? At |||| least if you buy a CD, you can play it wherever and whenever you |||| want. |||| ||| ||| Well... not if sony and others get their way. I wonder if they'll ||| make CDs that self destruct after so many plays next. || || You must have missed this little article: || || || || which shows they've already made DVDs that "self-destruct" after a || few || days. Apparently they didn't catch on since I've not yet seen one, || nor || heard of anyone else seeing them. I saw those in Florida in a 7-11 last holiday season. They were priced like a rental and would not play (said the package) after so many viewings. I almost bought one, thinking they were just 'clearance bin', until I actually read the packaging. -- kk == Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as Gods. Cats have never forgotten this. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 14:58:38 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 18:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , JohnL wrote: > All I can say is... Don't like it? Don't talk about it. All right. > YOU set yourself up for this No, I didn't set myself up to be told I'm "hassling" someone when the person mentioning that doesn't know anything about how this particular conversation came to be. I came here seeking advice, not hostility. I've already got enough of that already. It'd be one thing to say "Pete, be sure you're not hassling this girl", but it's completely another to say "apparently he's still hassling her" without knowing details. Either way, I think this particular thread's gone on enough... -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 18:01:37 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Tue Dec 6 18:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97247391E77A9spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in news:dn3n96$kmo$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Interesting. Gay marriage should be here on the 21st and I haven't seen > > a single this is the end of civilization as we know it article yet. > > Well, not that it isn't news but it isn't really much at all. There has > > been a bit of speculation over whether George Michael will get married > > or not. But fox hunting had like 8000 times more stories than this one. > > > > That's because it isn't an issue to anyone but those involved. Shame middle > America can't see that! IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to society. Gay union is not marriage. That there should be some equivalent civil proceeding to protect insurance claims and visiting rights is civilly (in both senses of the word) correct. But it is not marriage and should not be called such because there are a lot of particular elements of marriage that are necessary for the good of society (and particularly babies and the elderly). Although middle America doesn't quite understand how to articulate that, their instinct is right on. Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 18:13:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Dec 6 18:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-7987FA.13153606122005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > You say that....but you seem to have more than your fair share of it..... > > Indeed. That doesn't mean I like it. :/ But it's 99% self-inflicted...you can change it if you really want to. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 00:22:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Dec 6 19:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns9724A3692FFAAspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > You're way too old That's all you really needed to say about him. ;-) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Dec 6 17:02:16 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Dec 6 20:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Take Heidi's advice and leave the girl in peace. If she's interested > she'll come looking for you. At the moment you probably come across > to her as at best lovesick and at worst a bloody nuisance. That's precisely what I'm planning on doing. Thanks. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 21:01:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Dec 6 21:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn4smj$b55$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Got mine in a package deal with my scanner, it's a Canon 2210C. And the > frigging ink cartridges are clogged up AGAIN! Tried to print something over > the weekend, got trash output. I should just invest in a B&W laserjet, I > don't need color. Try cleaning the cartridge bottom with a q-tip dipped in alcohol, that usually unclogs them. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 21:00:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Dec 6 21:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > It is the one drawback of fellatio as conscientious as hers that it | > eliminates the chance for small talk and poetry alike. | | | Eh, wot? Who wants small talk when getting one? ;-) Well they can always hum ... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Dec 6 21:31:46 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Dec 6 22:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > ROAR!!!! I WILL DOWNLOAD YOUR SOULS!!!! | > | | you lost your mind, didn't you? but did he mind the loss? From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 11:51:08 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 07:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > David Bolt wrote in > news:qVoVDH4IjglDFw7x@dev.null.davjam.org: > >> You must have missed this little article: >> >> >> >> which shows they've already made DVDs that "self-destruct" after a few >> days. Apparently they didn't catch on since I've not yet seen one, nor >> heard of anyone else seeing them. > > oh yes, Divx weren't they or something? They were only intended for the > rental market though as I recall. Buying something that self destructs after a certain period IS a rental. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:14:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] 25 signs you have grown up Message-ID: 1. Your houseplants are alive, and you can't smoke any of them. 2. Having sex in a twin bed is out of the question. 3. You keep more food than beer in the fridge. 4. 6:00 AM is when you get up, not when you go to bed. 5. You hear your favorite song in an elevator. 6. You watch the Weather Channel. 7. Your friends marry and divorce instead of "hook up" and "break up." 8. You go from 130 days of vacation time to 14. 9. Jeans and a sweater no longer qualify as "dressed up." 10. You're the one calling the police because those %&@# kids next door won't turn down the stereo. 11. Older relatives feel comfortable telling sex jokes around you. 12. You don't know what time Taco Bell closes anymore. 13. Your car insurance goes down and your car payments go up. 14. You feed your dog Science Diet instead of McDonald's leftovers. 15. Sleeping on the couch makes your back hurt. 16. You take naps. 17. Dinner and a movie is the whole date instead of the beginning of one. 18. Eating a basket of chicken wings at 3 AM would severely upset, rather than settle, your stomach. 19. You go to the drug store for ibuprofen and antacid, not condoms and pregnancy tests. 20. A $4.00 bottle of wine is no longer "pretty good stuff." 21. You actually eat breakfast food at breakfast time. 22. "I just can't drink the way I used to" replaces "I'm never going to drink that much again." 23. 90% of the time you spend in front of a computer is for real work. 24. You drink at home to save money before going to a bar. 25. When you find out your friend is pregnant you congratulate them instead of asking "Oh S*$# what the hell happened?" From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:15:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn4sba$and$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> i honestly cannot imagine you behaving like this.. > > > > You mean me? I'm not the one doing it! > > > > > > > > Yes I mean you. And of course you're not doing it! You're way too old Hey! I resemble that! > and wise to behave like that. That's better ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:16:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote in > news:Xns9724A3692FFAAspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > > > You're way too old > > That's all you really needed to say about him. ;-) Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:17:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn4sib$aum$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000980QOS/ > > > > hehe...those are great...make a terrific gift for one of my golf > > pals (we call each other gorillas or monkeys after a lousy shot, as > > in a monkey could have hit the ball better than that ;-) > > > > LOL, well there you go, you can thank me later for solving one of > your gift problems! Except guys don't give presents to each other.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:17:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:20:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn4smj$b55$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Got mine in a package deal with my scanner, it's a Canon 2210C. And > > the frigging ink cartridges are clogged up AGAIN! Tried to print > > something over the weekend, got trash output. I should just invest > > in a B&W laserjet, I don't need color. > > Try cleaning the cartridge bottom with a q-tip dipped in alcohol, that > usually unclogs them. I'll try to remember that..... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:20:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > What's your number? We're supposed to get one right in time for this > > evening's rush hour.....6" - 8" total :-( > > I wish I had read that when you wrote it so that I could have > warned that the forecast was bogus... I can't believe they canceled > school here, wasn't any snow on the roads. They canceled all schools around here by 1-2 in the afternoon and I can't blame them. While the snow wasn't sticking, it was coming down hard enough to make seeing rather difficult. Woke up yesterday morning with a bone dry driveway (the ground hasn't frozen yet) but had 3-4" of snow on my car. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 09:20:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 09:25:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "indigo" > > | > It is the one drawback of fellatio as conscientious as hers that > | > it eliminates the chance for small talk and poetry alike. > | > | > | Eh, wot? Who wants small talk when getting one? ;-) > > Well they can always hum ... With ice cubes in their mouth..... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 14:43:15 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <619j63-6io.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in > news:dmssuv$s8b$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/generalfiction/story/0,6000,165 >> 2812,00.html >> >> Ok, if you are offended by descriptions of sex, then skip this. If >> you are offended by bad descriptions of sex, proceed with caution. >> But if you find really awful writing amusing, then have fun. Just a >> warning though, very little of this is actually very sexy. Like >> Zorro, that one cracked me up. > > You mean this line? It particularly amused me: > > which was leaping around like a shower dropped in an empty bath > > LOL, I liked this one: > > It is the one drawback of fellatio as conscientious as hers that it > eliminates the chance for small talk and poetry alike. > > and WTF is that Lobster one?! It was that whole huge run on sentence that made absolutely no sense, and then it ended with the short second sentence, Just like Zorro, him leaving a Zorro-style trail. I mean stylistically, it seemed kind of interesting, the rhythm of the long sentence with the tiny short one, but the actual content was just totally ridiculous. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 14:38:33 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in news:dn4sq8$b67$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Eh, wot? Who wants small talk when getting one? ;-) > > LOL... exactly... who'd be reciting poetry or engaging in small talk during > any type of sex? Apparently somebody who also writes really bad sex scenes. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 15:04:41 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:05:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn6qs4$fsf$1@news.spamcop.net: > Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! Hey, at least I face the facts! ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 10:21:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn6qs4$fsf$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! > > Hey, at least I face the facts! ;-) So do some of us young pups..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 10:25:23 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dn4q0f$865$1@news.spamcop.net... > > No, I found it stuck in the lint trap next to all of my left socks. How do you know they're your left ones? How do you know the sock monster only eats right ones? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 10:29:55 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972474E1A8349spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > Well Elton never does anything by halves so if he did get into a divorce, > it'd probably bring to mind the recent Liza Minelli debacle. Come to think > of it, maybe that counts as a gay divorce LOL Why the hell she would have married that botoxed creep in the first place is beyond me, she's enough of a head case, but he's just too much, claiming she beat him and caused him permanent emotional damage, can you say 'golddigger'... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 15:32:55 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn6ul6$ick$1@news.spamcop.net: > So do some of us young pups..... What, you have some "young people" hanging around? I know you're not talking about yourself. :P From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 15:34:18 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn6uu7$ij9$1@news.spamcop.net: > How do you know they're your left ones? How do you know the sock > monster only eats right ones? I used to wear weird socks, different ones on each foot. Then I got smart and started buying all the same color socks. Now the sock monster eats some of the heels out! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 10:47:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 10:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn6ul6$ick$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > So do some of us young pups..... > > What, you have some "young people" hanging around? > I know you're not talking about yourself. :P Comparatively speaking.....you're wrong, of course :-P From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 15:56:04 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn706p$ja7$1@news.spamcop.net: > Comparatively speaking.....you're wrong, of course :-P > > > Wrong? ME??!! Nah ;-) From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 15:12:56 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in news:dn6qs4$fsf$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! > > Hey, at least I face the facts! ;-) Besides, the Old Man of the Mountain crumbled and fell down a few years ago. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 11:18:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | | > Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! | | Hey, at least I face the facts! ;-) I'm told old men last longer or is it that it just takes longer to get there? Yea that's the story and I'm sticking with it. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 11:32:43 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:roaj63-f3p.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > JohnL wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in news:dn6qs4$fsf$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> Of all the people to reply with that quip, old man of the mountains! > > > > Hey, at least I face the facts! ;-) > > Besides, the Old Man of the Mountain crumbled and fell down a few years ago. Bwhahaha.....! Are you saying John needs some big steel cables to hold his face on? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 11:33:13 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn6ul6$ick$1@news.spamcop.net... > > So do some of us young pups..... Denial....it ain't just a river in Egypt.... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 16:45:50 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn72tf$kpo$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn6ul6$ick$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> So do some of us young pups..... > > Denial....it ain't just a river in Egypt.... > > > LOLOLOL!!!! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 16:46:38 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 11:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn72sf$kpl$1@news.spamcop.net: > Bwhahaha.....! Are you saying John needs some big steel cables to > hold his face on? I've got a "cable like steel", but it's not on my face! (and it ain't for you either!) From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 09:48:58 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dn4q0f$865$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>No, I found it stuck in the lint trap next to all of my left socks. > > > How do you know they're your left ones? How do you know the sock monster only eats > right ones? > > They only fit correctly on my right feet. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 09:50:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dn72sf$kpl$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>Bwhahaha.....! Are you saying John needs some big steel cables to >>hold his face on? > > > I've got a "cable like steel", but it's not on my face! > (and it ain't for you either!) Oh you poor thing...how have you managed to get the rust out that was formed from lack of use? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 12:50:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dn72sf$kpl$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Bwhahaha.....! Are you saying John needs some big steel cables to > > hold his face on? > > I've got a "cable like steel", but it's not on my face! > (and it ain't for you either!) Cables are kinda skinny, ain't they? :-P From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 12:51:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dn72tf$kpo$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:dn6ul6$ick$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> > >> So do some of us young pups..... > > > > Denial....it ain't just a river in Egypt.... > > > > > > > > LOLOLOL!!!! Coming from the "old lady" of the NG I fail to see the humor ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 17:51:50 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Help Desk Request Message-ID: Dear Tech Support: Last year I upgraded from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0. I soon noticed that the new program began unexpected child processing that took up a lot of space and valuable resources. In addition, Wife 1.0 installed itself into all other programs and now monitors all other system activity. Applications such as Poker Night 10.3, Football 5.0 , Hunting and Fishing 7.5 , and Racing 3.6. I can't seem to keep Wife 1.0 in the background while attempting to run my favorite applications. I'm thinking about going back to Girlfriend 7.0, but the uninstall doesn't work on Wife 1.0. Please help! Thanks, A Troubled User. ______________________________________ REPLY: Dear Troubled User: This is a very common problem that men complain about. Many people upgrade from Girlfriend 7.0 to Wife 1.0, thinking that it is just a Utilities and Entertainment program. Wife 1.0 is an OPERATING SYSTEM and is designed by its Creator to run EVERYTHING!!! It is also impossible to delete Wife 1.0 and to return to Girlfriend 7.0. It is impossible to uninstall or purge the program files from the system once installed. You cannot go back to Girlfriend 7.0 because Wife 1.0 is designed to not allow this. Look in your Wife 1.0 manual under Warnings-Alimony-Child Support. I recommend that you keep Wife 1.0 and work on improving the situation. I suggest installing the background application "Yes Dear" to alleviate software augmentation. The best course of action is to enter the command C:..APOLOGIZE because ultimately you will have to give the APOLOGIZE command before the system will return to normal anyway. Wife 1.0 is a great program, but it tends to be very high maintenance. Wife 1.0 comes with several support programs, such as Clean and Sweep 3.0, Cook It 1.5 and Do Bills 4.2. However, be very careful how you use these programs. Improper use will cause the system to launch the program Nag Nag 9.5 . Once this happens, the only way to improve the performance of Wife 1.0 is to purchase additional software. I recommend Flowers 2.1 and Diamonds 5.0! WARNING!!! DO NOT, under any circumstances, install Secretary With Short Skirt 3.3. This application is not supported by Wife 1.0 and will cause irreversible damage to the operating system. Best of luck, Tech Support From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 12:51:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > David Dean wrote in > news:ozchzhq02-771E7E.20011906122005@frylock.local: > > > >> That'd be the Razr. I'd like one of those but I'm not gonna sign up > >> with Cingular in order to get it. > > > > T-Mobile has them as well. > > > > not the black ones, which is what i'd want you need to accessorize your cell phone? Sheesh.... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 17:52:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:dn77ck$nje$3@news.spamcop.net: > Oh you poor thing...how have you managed to get the rust out that was > formed from lack of use? That will NEVER happen! ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 17:53:29 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 12:55:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn77d5$nv1$1@news.spamcop.net: > Cables are kinda skinny, ain't they? :-P Never seen the ones on the Golden Gate Bridge, have you? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 13:04:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn77d5$nv1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Cables are kinda skinny, ain't they? :-P > > Never seen the ones on the Golden Gate Bridge, have you? Yeah, right....we have John Holmes posting in .social, LOL.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 13:05:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn6r3n$g0a$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> Well they can always hum ... > > > > With ice cubes in their mouth..... > > > > > > > > eh wot?! You don't know that trick? What kind of wifey are you?! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 18:07:59 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns972566AC0517Espamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > take longer to get up in the first place you mean Well, there _are_ things to do while waiting. ;-) From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 10:10:00 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in news:dn77d5$nv1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>Cables are kinda skinny, ain't they? :-P > > > Never seen the ones on the Golden Gate Bridge, have you? Those are actually made up of several hundred skinny cables that are bound together with steel straps. Do you have a hobby you're not telling us about? :-P From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 18:18:25 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:dn78hh$nje$4@news.spamcop.net: > Those are actually made up of several hundred skinny cables that are > bound together with steel straps. Do you have a hobby you're not > telling us about? :-P Just think of it as the sum of the parts. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 13:24:31 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9724A30C3EA6Bspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:dn556c$g3d$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > > IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and > > woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot > > of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to > > society. > > That may be your opinion. But it's not the opinion of the gay-bashing > contingent who would have homosexuality outlawed, never mind grant gay > couples any sorts of rights. The term marriage is used for expedience. The > official term for gay 'marriage' in the UK is 'civil partnership'. I don't > think that gays here in the US were asking for any more than that. Which makes sense. However, IIRC, I have seen pictures of gay brides in bridal gowns. Just like the other side of the argument, you get some people who just want legal rights and others that want to force their views > > > > Gay union is not marriage. That there should be some equivalent > > civil proceeding to protect insurance claims and visiting rights is > > civilly (in both senses of the word) correct. But it is not > > marriage and should not be called such because there are a lot of > > particular elements of marriage that are necessary for the good of > > society (and particularly babies and the elderly). > > > > Although middle America doesn't quite understand how to articulate > > that, their instinct is right on. > > I think you give them (ie those who object) way too much credit. Those who object loudly and disrespectfully are not 'middle America' to me. In my younger days, they were the 'silent majority' - ordinary people who are decent, hardworking, not particularly intellectual, conservative (in the sense of being wary of change until it's been examined). They are not extremists and don't have much use for either end. Somehow they were heard in the UK since 'civil partnership' is used. In the US, it seems more and more that the extremes have too much leverage and it is always a win-lose proposition. Miss Betsy From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 13:25:15 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Dec 7 13:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-29C702.19575306122005@frylock.local... > In article , > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > I don't > > think that gays here in the US were asking for any more than that. > > I think that they expect to have the same rights and privileges that > straight couples get. If the government wasn't in the business of > recognizing marriage in the first place, it never would have been an > issue. We'd all be bound by our private contracts. > Hear! Hear! Miss Betsy From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:13:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > JohnL wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in > > news:dn77d5$nv1$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > >>Cables are kinda skinny, ain't they? :-P > > > > > > Never seen the ones on the Golden Gate Bridge, have you? > > Those are actually made up of several hundred skinny cables that are > bound together with steel straps. Do you have a hobby you're not > telling us about? :-P Heh. Good point ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:13:34 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: From: "indigo" Coming from the "old lady" of the NG I fail to see the humor ;-) The hell? I'm 38........ From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:15:52 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7c7v$rhm$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Borgholio wrote: > > Those are actually made up of several hundred skinny cables that are > > bound together with steel straps. Do you have a hobby you're not > > telling us about? :-P > > Heh. Good point ;-) All you boys comparing willies - and who was it posted this morning "25 Signs you've Grown Up"? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:16:45 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97257143734F4innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Sylvesterthekat wrote in > news:Xns972566AC0517Espamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > > > take longer to get up in the first place you mean > > Well, there _are_ things to do while waiting. ;-) I always thought falling asleep was bad manners.... :D From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:19:39 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dn54q7$fpv$1@news.spamcop.net... > I saw those in Florida in a 7-11 last holiday season. They were priced like > a rental and would not play (said the package) after so many viewings. I > almost bought one, thinking they were just 'clearance bin', until I actually > read the packaging. That would seriously piss me off. I'm of the mind that if I buy something, I own it, and it should last me the rest of my life, or at least until *I* am done with it. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:21:02 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9725642F91451spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it wouldn't be > too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will expire, compelling > you to buy them again (which is basically what they're doing with MP3s) When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because that's the only place I'll be getting my music if that catches on. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:22:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns972557355C1F0innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > > I used to wear weird socks, different ones on each foot. that's not weird John, that's CHEAP.... ;D > Then I got smart and started buying all the same color socks. > Now the sock monster eats some of the heels out! So, it's black socks with everything then? Or tube socks in packs of 20? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:22:29 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dn77a4$nje$2@news.spamcop.net... > > They only fit correctly on my right feet. You got a peg leg you haven't told us about? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:23:02 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9725664817C23spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > maybe he'd sewn a letter L on the socks? ....for "LOSER"? LOL From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:23:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:25:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97247BBBBA38spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > parma ham! parmagianno reggiano.....mmmmmmm............ From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:24:27 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972564F0FD219spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dn6qt4$fsu$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > Except guys don't give presents to each other.... > > oh you bunch of scrooges "that's gay!" From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:25:53 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn788u$ojr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > You don't know that trick? What kind of wifey are you?! Pity the woman with sensitive teeth! I would rather die than have ice cubes in my mouth.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:42:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! Message-ID: Shots Fired On American Airlines Flight At MIA POSTED: 2:17 pm EST December 7, 2005 UPDATED: 2:33 pm EST December 7, 2005 MIAMI -- A passenger on an American Airlines flight told NBC 6 that shots were fired on an airplane about to depart from Miami International Airport Wednesday afternoon. Mary Gardner, who was a guest on NBC 6's South Florida Today show Wednesday morning, told NBC 6 the plane was on the runway when a passenger caused a disturbance and an air marshal fired shots. Miami-Dade fire rescue officials confirmed the shooting. The shooting happened at about 2 p.m. on AA flight 924, heading to Orlando. Gardner appeared as a guest on NBC 6's "South Florida Today" this morning, telling viewers about inexpensive Christmas gifts. NBC 6 will have more details as they become available. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:43:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] was whatever.... Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > From: "indigo" > > Coming from the "old lady" of the NG I fail to see the humor ;-) > > The hell? I'm 38........ 10 years ago..... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:44:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns972564F0FD219spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > "indigo" wrote in > > news:dn6qt4$fsu$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > > > Except guys don't give presents to each other.... > > > > oh you bunch of scrooges > > "that's gay!" That's exactly what I thought when I read her post! But I didn't have the balls to say it ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:45:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 14:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn788u$ojr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > You don't know that trick? What kind of wifey are you?! > > Pity the woman with sensitive teeth! I would rather die than have > ice cubes in my mouth.... The cubes should be on your tongue, dummy, not on your teeth! From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 20:03:28 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in news:fuui63-9nl.ln1 > @mothlight.dyndns.org: > >>> oh yes, Divx weren't they or something? They were only intended for the >>> rental market though as I recall. >> Buying something that self destructs after a certain period IS a rental. > > true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it wouldn't be > too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will expire, compelling > you to buy them again (which is basically what they're doing with MP3s) I think it will go further than that. I expect to see a concerted effort to lock up the hardware too. Consumers will understandably be upset by crippled hardware, so they will probably have to take a legislative method to make it illegal to manufacture unlocked hardware. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 12:04:16 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dn77a4$nje$2@news.spamcop.net... > >>They only fit correctly on my right feet. > > > You got a peg leg you haven't told us about? > > That's not a leg... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 20:17:41 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns9725642F91451spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it wouldn't be >> too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will expire, compelling >> you to buy them again (which is basically what they're doing with MP3s) > > When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because that's the only place > I'll be getting my music if that catches on. Commercials? From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:15:33 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Miss Betsy wrote: [... gay marriage ...] > > IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and > woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot > of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to > society. [...] So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed to marry, either? -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:18:16 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: Message-ID: <43974388.299C7E5@spamcop.net> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "Miss Betsy" wrote in news:dn556c$g3d$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > > IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and > > woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot > > of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to > > society. > > That may be your opinion. But it's not the opinion of the gay-bashing > contingent who would have homosexuality outlawed, never mind grant gay > couples any sorts of rights. The term marriage is used for expedience. The > official term for gay 'marriage' in the UK is 'civil partnership'. I don't > think that gays here in the US were asking for any more than that. Does "civil partnership" bestow all of the rights and privileges that a "marriage" bestows on a hetersexual couple? As I understand it, in the US, the answer is "no" in most cases. [...] -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 12:21:21 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:25:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Hey, it's December 7th... Message-ID: Just thought I'd point that out. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 12:29:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: In news:dn7g7q$tid$2@news.spamcop.net, Borgholio opined: || Just thought I'd point that out. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com/pearlharbor/ -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:44:36 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed Dec 7 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: Message-ID: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> indigo wrote: > > Shots Fired On American Airlines Flight At MIA [...] (Is S-kat from Miami?) CNN: Updated 3:40PM A man shot on a boarding bridge to a Boeing 757 at Miami International Airport has died from his injuries, two sources tell CNN. The man said he had a bomb, according to several officials familiar with the incident. Armed SWAT team members could be seen outside the American Airlines jet, and more than a dozen law enforcement vehicles surrounded the plane, which was en route from Medellin, Colombia, to Orlando, Florida. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:59:10 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:dn7g16$u87$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Commercials? That's not good, music on commercials drives me nuts..... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 21:32:08 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7cg2$rq3$2 @news.spamcop.net: > I always thought falling asleep was bad manners.... :D Hmmmm, I was thinking of "returning the favor to my partner" :D From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 21:32:45 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7cq7$ru7$1 @news.spamcop.net: > So, it's black socks with everything then? Or tube socks in packs of 20? ... and what's wrong with tube socks?? ;-) From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 21:36:28 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast In-Reply-To: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > Miss Betsy wrote: > [... gay marriage ...] >> IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and >> woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot >> of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to >> society. > [...] > > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed > to marry, either? Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and sinful. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Wed Dec 7 21:38:40 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:40:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > news:dn7g16$u87$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Commercials? > > That's not good, music on commercials drives me nuts..... Just saying that radio isn't free. You are paying for it by listening to commercials. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 13:50:50 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:55:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast In-Reply-To: References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Loafman wrote: > On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:36:28 +0000, "Mr K. Mean" > wrote: > > >>Kenneth Brody wrote: >> >>>Miss Betsy wrote: >>>[... gay marriage ...] >>> >>>>IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and >>>>woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot >>>>of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to >>>>society. >>> >>>[...] >>> >>>So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed >>>to marry, either? >> >>Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and >>sinful. > > > That explains why the Religious Wingnuts are so hostile. Too much back > pressure on the system. About ready to overload at any time. ;-( > > ...Ken oooo...a religious war... I'm looking forward to it. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:52:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:55:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message > > news:dn7g16$u87$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> Commercials? > > > > That's not good, music on commercials drives me nuts..... > > Just saying that radio isn't free. You are paying for it by listening > to commercials. No, I don't. That's what the pre-programmed buttons are for. I can surf the radio just as well as I do the TV. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:53:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 16:55:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Kenneth Brody wrote: > > Miss Betsy wrote: > > [... gay marriage ...] > >> IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and > >> woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot > >> of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to > >> society. > > [...] > > > > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be > > allowed to marry, either? > > Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and > sinful. And a helluva lot of fun! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:55:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > indigo wrote: > > > > Shots Fired On American Airlines Flight At MIA > [...] > > (Is S-kat from Miami?) No, but she doesn't work, ergo she could go turn on CNN and find out what was going on. > > > CNN: Updated 3:40PM > > A man shot on a boarding bridge to a Boeing 757 at Miami > International Airport has died from his injuries, two sources tell > CNN. The man said he had a bomb, according to several officials > familiar with the incident. Armed SWAT team members could be seen > outside the American Airlines jet, and more than a dozen law > enforcement vehicles surrounded the plane, which was en route from > Medellin, Colombia, to Orlando, Florida. Hmmm....wonder if he really had a bomb or if this was suicide by cop? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:56:14 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7e59$stl$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> The cubes should be on your tongue, dummy, not on your teeth! > Well I don't know how your mouth is configured, but my tongue is right next to my very sensitive teeth....ow.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:57:17 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7lor$1vc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > No, but she doesn't work, ergo she could go turn on CNN and find out what > was going on. ITYM she doesn't work 'outside the home', she does lots of website work at home, IIRC From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 16:57:48 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:00:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns972593E0792CCinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7cg2$rq3$2 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > I always thought falling asleep was bad manners.... :D > > Hmmmm, I was thinking of "returning the favor to my partner" :D Sure you were...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:01:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn7lor$1vc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > No, but she doesn't work, ergo she could go turn on CNN and find > > out what was going on. > > ITYM she doesn't work 'outside the home', she does lots of website > work at home, IIRC I wasn't aware that she got *paid* to do anything, but I could be wrong....in any case, that's not the point, and none of my business anyway. The point being that she's normally in her apartment unless she's out riding her bike or shopping. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:03:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:05:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn7e59$stl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > >> The cubes should be on your tongue, dummy, not on your teeth! > > > Well I don't know how your mouth is configured, but my tongue is > right next to my very sensitive teeth....ow.... You got some serious gum/tooth issues if holding an ice cube in your mouth causes pain......how do you eat cold food? Or drink ice cold beverages? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 22:05:41 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7lu1$24p$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns972593E0792CCinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> "Spamvireslayer" wrote in >> news:dn7cg2$rq3$2 @news.spamcop.net: >> >> > I always thought falling asleep was bad manners.... :D >> >> Hmmmm, I was thinking of "returning the favor to my partner" :D > > Sure you were...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. > > > That's one thing I stand by, I ALWAYS return the favor. Sometings I even do my part and let her relax. ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 22:08:03 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn7m3j$2dp$1@news.spamcop.net: > The point being that she's normally in her apartment unless she's out > riding her bike or shopping. And that's bad? I'm in my home most days myself, and even get my monies direct deposited. ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:16:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7m3j$2dp$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > The point being that she's normally in her apartment unless she's > > out riding her bike or shopping. > > And that's bad? > I'm in my home most days myself, and even get my monies direct > deposited. ;-) No, I didn't mean it was bad. I just as easily could have put your name in the subject line instead. I probably should have, seeing as how S-kat hasn't responded! ;-) From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:13:48 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: <43975E9C.A4250A63@spamcop.net> JohnL wrote: > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7cq7$ru7$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > So, it's black socks with everything then? Or tube socks in packs of 20? > > ... and what's wrong with tube socks?? ;-) Nothing, as far as I'm concerned. There's no problem with the heel of the sock not fitting the heel of your foot (which is an issue when you wear size 14[US]), and they all match, so when you lose one in the laundry, the "extra" will match the "extra" when you lose a second. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:15:30 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:20:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <43975F02.2A9C2CF8@spamcop.net> "Mr K. Mean" wrote: > > Kenneth Brody wrote: > > Miss Betsy wrote: > > [... gay marriage ...] > >> IMHO, it is a definition of terms. Marriage is between man and > >> woman by definition with the expectation of family. There is a lot > >> of scholarly stuff on why marriage is and how it relates to > >> society. > > [...] > > > > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed > > to marry, either? > > Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and > sinful. So "the Big V" must be a sin as well? -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 14:21:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:20:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tools Message-ID: :) Years of watching my biker buddy mechanics in the garage has given me familiarity with _all_ of the following :) For those who may not be familiar with the functions of all these tools: 1. DRILL PRESS: A tall upright machine useful for suddenly snatching flat metal bar stock out of your hands so that it smacks you in the chest and flings your beer across the room, splattering it against that freshly painted part you were drying. 2. WIRE WHEEL: Cleans rust off old bolts and then throws them somewhere under the work bench with the speed of light. Also removes fingerprint whorls and hard-earned guitar calluses in about the time it takes you to say, "Ouch..." 3. ELECTRIC HAND DRILL: Normally used for spinning steel pop rivets in their holes until you die of old age. 4. PLIERS: Used to round off bolt heads. 5. HACKSAW: One of a family of cutting tools built on the Ouija board principle. It transforms human energy into a crooked, unpredictable motion, and the more you attempt to influence its course, the more dismal your future becomes. 6. VISE-GRIPS: Used to round off bolt heads. If nothing else is available, they can also be used to transfer intense welding heat to the palm of your hand. 7. OXYACETYLENE TORCH: Used almost entirely for lighting various flammable objects in your garage on fire. Also handy for igniting the grease inside a brake drum you're trying to get the bearing race out of. 8. HYDRAULIC FLOOR JACK: Used for lowering a motorcycle to the ground after you have installed your new front disk brake setup, trapping the jack handle firmly under the front fender. 9. EIGHT-FOOT LONG DOUGLAS FIR 2X4: Used for levering a motorcycle upward off a hydraulic jack. 10. PHONE: Tool for calling your neighbour to see if he has another hydraulic floor jack. 11. SNAP-ON GASKET SCRAPER: Theoretically useful as a sandwich tool for spreading mayonnaise; used mainly for getting dog-do off your boot. 12. E-Z OUT BOLT AND STUD EXTRACTOR: A tool that snaps off in bolt holes and is ten times harder than any known drill bit. 13. TWO-TON HYDRAULIC ENGINE HOIST: A handy tool for testing the tensile strength of ground straps and brake lines you may have forgotten to disconnect. 14. CRAFTSMAN 1/2 x 16-INCH Screwdriver: A large motor mount prying tool that inexplicably has an accurately machined screwdriver tip on the end without the handle. 15. ELECTROLYTE TESTER: A handy tool for transferring sulphuric acid from a car battery to the inside of your toolbox after determining that your battery is dead as a doornail, just as you thought. 16. PHILLIPS SCREWDRIVER: Normally used to stab the lids of old-style paper-and-tin oil cans and splash oil on your shirt; can also be used, as the name implies, to round off Phillips screw heads. 17. AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into compressed air that travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 40 years ago by someone in, and rounds them off. 18. PRY BAR: A tool used to crumple the metal surrounding that clip or bracket you needed to remove in order to replace a 50 cent part. 19. HOSE CUTTER: A tool used to cut hoses 1/2 inch too short. 20. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive parts not far from the object we are trying to hit. 21. MECHANIC'S KNIFE: Used to open and slice through the contents of cardboard cartons delivered to your front door; works particularly well on boxes containing seats and motorcycle jackets. -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 17:24:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> <43975F02.2A9C2CF8@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > > So "the Big V" must be a sin as well? Huh? Whazzat? From scamper at trisk.com Wed Dec 7 15:52:52 2005 From: scamper at trisk.com (Garen Erdoisa) Date: Wed Dec 7 17:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Help Desk Request In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > Dear Tech Support: [snip] Quick! This issue needs to be escalated to the oval office! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:00:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7dva$spm$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Shots Fired On American Airlines Flight At MIA > > > sorry dude, i was out and only just found out about this several hours > later You are hereby fired as the "arbiter of current events" :-P From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:06:42 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259906CF148spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dn7e0j$sra$2@news.spamcop.net: > >>> The hell? I'm 38........ >> >> 10 years ago..... > > > maybe she's referring to her bust size? Need to add cup size to make it an interesting number! ;oP From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:07:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Certainly ain't bad from my point of view... now where's Kameo, I > thought it was in the machine... Eh? Who/what's Kameo? Yer critter? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:07:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:10:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7e0j$sra$2@news.spamcop.net: > > >> The hell? I'm 38........ > > > > 10 years ago..... > > > maybe she's referring to her bust size? Or IQ.... :-D From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:07:18 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:10:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <43974388.299C7E5@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:43974388.299C7E5@spamcop.net... > Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> >> >> That may be your opinion. But it's not the opinion of the gay-bashing >> contingent who would have homosexuality outlawed, never mind grant gay >> couples any sorts of rights. The term marriage is used for expedience. >> The >> official term for gay 'marriage' in the UK is 'civil partnership'. I >> don't >> think that gays here in the US were asking for any more than that. > > Does "civil partnership" bestow all of the rights and privileges that > a "marriage" bestows on a hetersexual couple? As I understand it, in > the US, the answer is "no" in most cases. > As I understand it, in the UK, the answer is yes. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:08:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:10:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn77fu$nvp$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> not the black ones, which is what i'd want > > > > you need to accessorize your cell phone? Sheesh.... > > accessorize? well I prefer them in black, the way I prefer the black > ipods but I have neither so apparently I'm not all that bothered Why black? Cell phones should be silver, Ipods should be white. That's just the way the world was meant to be! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:11:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn788u$ojr$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> eh wot?! > > > > You don't know that trick? What kind of wifey are you?! > > the kind that doesn't watch enough porn I guess! now tell me, is it > pleasant or not and what's the technique? (since you obviously know!) Didn't learn that from porn.....I don't even remember if I asked that gal to do it or if she already knew the trick, it was so long ago that I first experienced it. And it feels beyond pleasant for a guy, trust me! The alternating between cool and warm is, well, pretty cool ;-) Technique: open mouth, insert several ice cubes. open mouth, insert....well, you can figger out the rest! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 23:12:21 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns9725996315C1Bspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > read War and Peace? ;o) Poor hubby. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:12:57 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9725982E58530spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > Kenneth Brody wrote in > news:439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net: > >> indigo wrote: >>> >>> Shots Fired On American Airlines Flight At MIA >> [...] >> >> (Is S-kat from Miami?) > > No but he thinks I'm home all day watching TV LOL > >> A man shot on a boarding bridge to a Boeing 757 at Miami >> International Airport has died from his injuries, two sources tell >> CNN. The man said he had a bomb, according to several officials >> familiar with the incident. Armed SWAT team members could be seen >> outside the American Airlines jet, and more than a dozen law >> enforcement vehicles surrounded the plane, which was en route from >> Medellin, Colombia, to Orlando, Florida. > > > Well I guess if terrorists were thinking the air marshalls didn't mean > business, they'll be convinced now. > LOL! Just a shame about the innocent victims that get killed in the meantime, eh!?! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:13:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:35 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7e3l$sro$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> > oh you bunch of scrooges > >> > >> "that's gay!" > > > > That's exactly what I thought when I read her post! But I didn't > > have the balls to say it ;-) > > > > well you've lost me, both of you LOL (I take it this is some quote > from something I'm unfamiliar with) No quote, guys buying male friends Xmas presents is....kinda gay. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:14:03 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:43 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972599544BD1Dspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dn788u$ojr$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>> eh wot?! >> >> You don't know that trick? What kind of wifey are you?! > > the kind that doesn't watch enough porn I guess! now tell me, is it > pleasant or not and what's the technique? (since you obviously know!) Being that most guy's willy shrivel up jumping in a cold shower or water, I'm not twisted enough to imagine it being a good fore-play technique. Yow...sounds painful! I'd definitely never ask for that! From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:13:38 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:15:47 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dn7g7q$tid$2@news.spamcop.net... > Just thought I'd point that out. That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 23:16:25 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns97259A831C909spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > hmmmmm That's what makes it even better. ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:19:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: In news:Xns97259B51C2FB4spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || "Spamvireslayer" wrote in || news:dn7lr3$244$1@news.spamcop.net: || || ||| Well I don't know how your mouth is configured, but my tongue is ||| right next to my very sensitive teeth....ow.... ||| ||| ||| || || not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two *splorf* p o r k s w o r d ? ? ? ROFLMAO -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:18:23 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dn7g7q$tid$2@news.spamcop.net... > > Just thought I'd point that out. > > That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 23:19:03 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dn7qca$5nj$1 @news.spamcop.net: > That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! ... And then.... WOW!!! ...the 9th!! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:19:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > > Being that most guy's willy shrivel up jumping in a cold shower or > water, I'm not twisted enough to imagine it being a good fore-play > technique. Yow...sounds painful! I'd definitely never ask for that! It ain't painful at all. Trust me on this ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:19:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:20:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dn7lr3$244$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > Well I don't know how your mouth is configured, but my tongue is > > right next to my very sensitive teeth....ow.... > > > > > > > > not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two LOL. "Pork Sword"? Never heard that one before. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Dec 7 15:21:15 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:25:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tools References: Message-ID: In article , "kram" wrote: > Years of watching my biker buddy mechanics in the garage has given me > familiarity with _all_ of the following :) So true...so true indeed. *looks at sliced up fingers* -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:22:21 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:25:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7qk0$6ae$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: >> "Borgholio" wrote in message >> news:dn7g7q$tid$2@news.spamcop.net... >> > Just thought I'd point that out. >> >> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! > > The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? > Here's a chronology for you: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:24:22 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:25:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dn7qih$6a7$1@news.spamcop.net... > In news:Xns97259B51C2FB4spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, > Sylvesterthekat opined: > || "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > || news:dn7lr3$244$1@news.spamcop.net: > || > || > ||| Well I don't know how your mouth is configured, but my tongue is > ||| right next to my very sensitive teeth....ow.... > ||| > ||| > ||| > || > || not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two > > *splorf* > > p o r k s w o r d ? ? ? > Is it kosher?? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:25:07 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259B26E2ACEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in > news:dn7kku$1b5$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and >> sinful. >> > > ROFL Hey! So is ROFL!!!! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Dec 7 23:25:51 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns97259CC46194Dspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > SEVERAL ice cubes? do you have a pencil d*ck? LOL ROTFLMAO!! OH! OH! My sides are hurting!!!! From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:30:59 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259ACC53FE4spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Mr K. Mean" wrote in > news:dn7f6h$tke$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >> I think it will go further than that. I expect to see a concerted >> effort to lock up the hardware too. Consumers will understandably be >> upset by crippled hardware, so they will probably have to take a >> legislative method to make it illegal to manufacture unlocked >> hardware. >> > > Have you noticed that in the UK the sale of "region free" DVD players > likely outstrips that of Region 2? Conversely they're relatively difficult > to get hold of here (you can really only get them online). Interestingly, I was shopping for a portable DVD player today. What a laugh! This is what really pisses me off about all this regionalisation crap. 1. Logically, a portable DVD player would be used whilst travelling - So why the fsck aren't they all multi-region/all regions, to enable you to play DVDs wherever you happen to be travelling!???!! 2. Same applies to DVDs you might buy whilst travelling/working abroad. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Dec 7 23:34:36 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259CD949649spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Porpoise" wrote in news:dn7qb2$5n5$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >> LOL! Just a shame about the innocent victims that get killed in the >> meantime, eh!?! > > Were there any? Well apparently, there weren't any terrorists or devices........... "Local police and federal officers are investigating the incident, but officials say so far there is no hint of any links to terrorism. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4508432.stm From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:35:33 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259D65CC2E3spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dn7qml$6at$1@news.spamcop.net: > > >>> not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two >> >> LOL. "Pork Sword"? Never heard that one before. >> >> >> > > good grief... here's me thinking it was in common usage! no wonder people > look at me funny when i say it out loud in public ;o) http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pork+sword 7 entries :o) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 15:50:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Dec 7 18:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: In news:Xns97259D3CBB2A9spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || "kram" wrote in || news:dn7qih$6a7$1@news.spamcop.net: || || ||||| not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two ||| ||| *splorf* ||| ||| p o r k s w o r d ? ? ? ||| ||| ROFLMAO ||| ||| || || oh surely you've heard that before?! you live in vegas fer krissakes! yabbut ... I'm only a new transplant. In NY/NJ there are other things that we 'ladies' would call that particular appendage, but 'pork sword', is _not_ one of them. Sausage, salami (or pepperoni, depending on girth), and ham bone are the 'foody' euphemisms that I am most familiar with :) And BTW, it has been my experience that the ice-cube thing is 'interesting' to say the least, both giving and receiving -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 18:59:09 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed | > to marry, either? | | Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and | sinful. It's called 'practiceing for the main event' From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 8 00:02:54 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dn7t1k$83r$2@news.spamcop.net... > "Mr K. Mean" > > | > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be > allowed > | > to marry, either? > | > | Well, having sex without the expectation of procreation is lustful and > | sinful. > > It's called 'practiceing for the main event' > Noun: practice Verb: practise - ergo, practising [Grammar Police] ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 19:02:00 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | > I've got a "cable like steel", but it's not on my face! | > (and it ain't for you either!) | | | Oh you poor thing...how have you managed to get the rust out that was formed | from lack of use? You his personal bridge inspector? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 19:04:40 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | | > I'm told old men last longer or is it that it just takes longer to get | > there? | | take longer to get up in the first place you mean get it up? you mean these things go DOWN? (says he who's middle name is Kokopellie) From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 19:06:01 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" < | >> > I always thought falling asleep was bad manners.... :D | >> | >> Hmmmm, I was thinking of "returning the favor to my partner" :D | > | > Sure you were...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. | > | > | > | | That's one thing I stand by, I ALWAYS return the favor. | Sometings I even do my part and let her relax. ;-) What are you ... a contortionist? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 8 00:25:32 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dn7tds$8id$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" >| That's one thing I stand by, I ALWAYS return the favor. >| Sometings I even do my part and let her relax. ;-) > > What are you ... a contortionist? > > > Ok Smart A** .... "Sometimes I even do my part _to her_ and let her relax. " From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 19:14:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | >>They only fit correctly on my right feet. | > | > | > You got a peg leg you haven't told us about? | > | > | | That's not a leg... But you agree it's a peg? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 19:15:32 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:30:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer" | > true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it wouldn't be | > too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will expire, compelling | > you to buy them again (which is basically what they're doing with MP3s) | | When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because that's the only place | I'll be getting my music if that catches on. Right now the only way to get air play is by paying. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 8 00:27:17 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 19:30:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns9725A4DD61BEEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) Hmmm, ice cubes on the mind???? From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Dec 7 17:22:57 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Dec 7 20:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) Interesting. I thought "red shovel". I wonder why that is... -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 20:29:53 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Wed Dec 7 20:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9725A4DD61BEEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) I'm in the '2%' also...but I question the stats and the alleged reasoning behind the 'correct' answer. Any number of answers are possible, and it seems a lot of posts on blogs with this quiz bear that out. I was half 'right' though. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 18:01:22 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Dec 7 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! Message-ID: No, it's the Goatmaster! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 21:26:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Dec 7 21:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259906CF148spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dn7e0j$sra$2@news.spamcop.net: > > >> The hell? I'm 38........ > > > > 10 years ago..... > > maybe she's referring to her bust size? how did........never mind...LOL From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 8 02:42:08 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Dec 7 21:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:dn85oe$gp6$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns97259906CF148spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> maybe she's referring to her bust size? > > how did........never mind...LOL > > > Ok, now on to the letter. ;-) From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Dec 7 22:57:31 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Dec 7 23:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > > Porpoise wrote: > >> "Borgholio" wrote in message > >> > >> > Just thought I'd point that out. > >> > >> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! > > > > The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? > > Here's a chronology for you: > > http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm Note that it does not give the date that the U.S. declared war on Germany (11 December 1941). -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Dec 7 23:01:00 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Dec 7 23:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >You just thought about a red hammer! , didn't you? > > > >If this is not your answer, you are among 2% of people who have a > >different, if not abnormal, mind. > > > >98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this exercise. > > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) I thought of a green pneumatic drill press. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From edb2000 at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 21:26:43 2005 From: edb2000 at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Thu Dec 8 00:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast In-Reply-To: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > So a man and a woman who plan on not having children should not be allowed > to marry, either? IIUC, the Roman Catholic church holds this position, or if not, changed it only recently. In fact, if one of the couple were sterile, the marriage would not be allowed since they could not have children. From edb2000 at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 21:44:35 2005 From: edb2000 at spamcop.net (Don Wannit) Date: Thu Dec 8 00:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey S-kat turn on your TV and find out what's going on! In-Reply-To: References: <439749B4.6DB047D7@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > but that doesn't make the nutball who SAID he had a bomb 'innocent' > either... do something like that in an airport and you should expect to get > shot or at least be in extremely serious trouble The news now is that his wife says he was bipolar and went off his meds today. The position of TSA is 1) he made hostile comments 2) he made a statement that led the marshall to think there might be a bomb 3) he reached toward his carry-on bag 4) the air marshall shot and killed him Speculation going around SFO is that 1) his "hostile comments" were what any traveler today might say in reaction to indignities imposed "for security purposes" 2) he said something like "I wish I had my pills today, I feel like I'm going to blow up at someone" 3) he was on the jetway, going to the plane; of course he reached for his carry-on bag 4) ... Interesting that for 4 hours the public news was about how the man "said he had a bomb" and not a word about whether there was or was not a bomb. I'd be amazed if it took more than some minutes before that bag was examined, if at a safe distance from the buildings and planes. In a different article, Sylvesterthekat wrote: > Well I guess if terrorists were thinking the air marshalls didn't mean > business, they'll be convinced now. I wonder if it isn't more a matter of a need on the part of our guv'mint to make sure the public is accustomed to dropping and spreading at any time. They're already working hard on getting everyone used to the idea of carrying papers and handing them over on demand. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Dec 7 21:56:28 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 8 01:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > > >>"indigo" wrote in message >> >>>Porpoise wrote: >>> >>>>"Borgholio" wrote in message >>>> >>>> >>>>>Just thought I'd point that out. >>>> >>>>That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! >>> >>>The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? >> >>Here's a chronology for you: >> >>http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm > > > Note that it does not give the date that the U.S. declared war on Germany (11 > December 1941). Um...yeah it does. From skiwi at spamcop.net Wed Dec 7 22:56:50 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Thu Dec 8 02:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: [snip] >> 98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this exercise. >> > > > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) purple drill, not distracted, so just poor at math? hmmmmm From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 8 08:46:52 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 8 03:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-5F9143.22573107122005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , >> >> http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm > > Note that it does not give the date that the U.S. declared war on Germany > (11 > December 1941). Well, it does - but it says Germany declared war on USA... From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:09:04 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: system problems? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1u1g$m9a$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Redstone wrote: >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:dmq4vl$fl8$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> > Just tried to report a spam, I should have been logged in without >> > seeing the log in screen (I allow SC cookies), and I got that >> > "password is incorrect" error message. And nuts, I seem to have >> > lost my SC cookie! How the heck did that happen? >> > >> > >> >> >> Did you check for any crumbs under your desk? >snicker< :-D > > Shaddup, you, you......californian you..... > > > Chocochip or Butter Pecan... come on fess up! LOL! :-D From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:21:38 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crabby! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1g39$ehi$1@news.spamcop.net: > > That's how the CCD detectors work....sorry! > > Yeah I know.. but hey, these vistas make excellent background in videogames. (i.e. "X-Beyond the Frontier.") :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:23:19 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:25:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone been out celebrating the UK's new licensing laws yet? References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in news:dn25bl$q2l$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Try living in Las Vegas where _everything_ is 24/7 ... Things don't > close here - ever. Except for one Walgreens a few blocks from me that > closes at 10 pm. And where, by the way, while you are waiting for your > prescriptions to be filled, you can lose the money to pay for them in > the slot machines ;) > How can Walgreens close at 10pm when the one thing people will need are the anagesics for their hangovers? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:24:07 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:25:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "DougW" wrote in news:dmv6in$3eo$1@news.spamcop.net: > Redstone did pass the time by typing: >> Skiwi wrote in news:dmsqs5$r2c$2@news.spamcop.net: >> >> >>> >>> With sprinkles or chocolate sauce? >>> >> >> >> I'll go with the chocolate sauce.. better thick. :-) > > And fresly chopped pecans. :) > Buttered pecans like Indigo's SpamCop cookies. :-9 From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:26:14 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dn1mtm$ifg$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Carry one in the trunk for, ah, those moments when you just can't wait > to get home, is that what you mean? (the backseat of my car *is* > pretty small, afterall ;-) > > > Get yourself a Honda where the seats go all the way down.. great napping space. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:27:11 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: One good reason to boycott Chinese goods References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dmuogd$rha$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Quite possibly. Perhaps similar to grasshoppers....?? > > Depends if insects have a similar taste amongst themselves.. like the way seafood does. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:33:32 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn1ls1$hsi$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Unfortunately he seems relatively uninterested in learning from prior > experiences - at some point you have to think 'why does this keep > happening, is it me?', and usually the answer is 'yes', which is an > opportunity to change your behavior. One good thing about getting > older, reality checks are often mailed in advance. ;) > > Yeah, its called form 1040A which should be at my doorstep by next month. Either case, If Pete's ideas is being construed as being too "forward" then mayhaps he ought to choose a more "conservative" approach... holiday cards. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:45:09 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:50:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote in news:Xns9725A4DD61BEEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61: > > > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) I thought of DDD-cup boobies. I know its not a color nor a tool, but what the heck. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:48:39 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:50:40 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tools References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in news:dn7n64$36l$1@news.spamcop.net: > 17. AIR COMPRESSOR: A machine that takes energy produced in a > coal-burning power plant 200 miles away and transforms it into > compressed air that travels by hose to a Chicago Pneumatic impact > wrench that grips rusty bolts last tightened 40 years ago by someone > in, and rounds them off. > Brings back some nice memories of my uncle's old Aspen he needed help with. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Dec 8 09:51:08 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Dec 8 04:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:dn85oe$gp6$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns97259906CF148spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:dn7e0j$sra$2@news.spamcop.net: >> >> >> The hell? I'm 38........ >> > >> > 10 years ago..... >> >> maybe she's referring to her bust size? > > how did........never mind...LOL > > Hey.. don't stop there. Enquiring minds (JohnL) wants to know. :-) From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:16:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 08:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Redstone" | > Unfortunately he seems relatively uninterested in learning from prior | > experiences - at some point you have to think 'why does this keep | > happening, is it me?', and usually the answer is 'yes', which is an | > opportunity to change your behavior. One good thing about getting | > older, reality checks are often mailed in advance. ;) | > | > | | Yeah, its called form 1040A which should be at my doorstep by next month. | | Either case, If Pete's ideas is being construed as being too "forward" then | mayhaps he ought to choose a more "conservative" approach... holiday cards. He could go for the sensitive/creative approach. Send a donation to a charity that is in line with her sentiments. FWIW we did this for clients for years and had a great response especially when the charity would give us announcement cards. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:20:46 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 08:25:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | >> maybe she's referring to her bust size? | > | > how did........never mind...LOL | > | > | > | Ok, now on to the letter. ;-) This email is sponsored by the letter ..... ? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:52:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 08:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dn7qk0$6ae$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Porpoise wrote: > >> "Borgholio" wrote in message > >> news:dn7g7q$tid$2@news.spamcop.net... > >> > Just thought I'd point that out. > >> > >> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! > > > > The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? > > > > Here's a chronology for you: > > http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm You coulda just said "yes, you are correct, Indi", ya know..... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:55:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7qml$6at$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two > > > > LOL. "Pork Sword"? Never heard that one before. > > > > > > > > good grief... here's me thinking it was in common usage! no wonder > people look at me funny when i say it out loud in public ;o) And you say this in public.....why? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:57:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7q7k$5lv$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > Technique: open mouth, insert several ice cubes. open mouth, > > insert....well, you can figger out the rest! > > > > > > > > SEVERAL ice cubes? do you have a pencil d*ck? LOL No. You got a tiny mouth? > > I rather think that hubby would be alarmed at the very idea... we > shall see! I can just imagine it....ok, honey, so WHERE did you learn this trick!?! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:58:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:00:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: kram wrote: > And BTW, it has been my experience that the ice-cube thing is > 'interesting' to say the least, both giving and receiving Hah to you all! Thank you, Kram ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:59:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:00:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7pvv$5dp$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> maybe she's referring to her bust size? > > > > Or IQ.... :-D > > > > > > > > LOL... no, I definitely think she's got an IQ over 120 Now lets not push it.... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:59:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:00:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: A bright bit of small news References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7q25$5e2$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Why black? Cell phones should be silver, Ipods should be white. > > That's just the way the world was meant to be! > > > > is that a fact? and I suppose ferraris are supposed to be red too so > my preference for yellow will meet with similar scorn! ;o) Ayup. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:00:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn7qb7$5n6$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> well you've lost me, both of you LOL (I take it this is some quote > >> from something I'm unfamiliar with) > > > > No quote, guys buying male friends Xmas presents is....kinda gay. > > > ohhhh i seeeee... okaaaaaaay [eyes cast heavenward in exasperation at > the male of the species] We don't dance with each other either ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:01:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:05:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Spamvireslayer" > > | > true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it > | > wouldn't be too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will > | > expire, compelling you to buy them again (which is basically what > | > they're doing with MP3s) > | > | When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because > | that's the only place I'll be getting my music if that catches on. > > > Right now the only way to get air play is by paying. The FCC just had a big crackdown on payola. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:05:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's COLD up here!! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dn1mtm$ifg$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > Carry one in the trunk for, ah, those moments when you just can't > > wait to get home, is that what you mean? (the backseat of my car > > *is* pretty small, afterall ;-) > > > > > > > > > Get yourself a Honda where the seats go all the way down.. great > napping space. :-) Hmmm.....I have an Acura (Honda owns the Acura brand) but I've never tried to see how far back the front seats go back. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:20:47 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tools References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dn7n64$36l$1@news.spamcop.net... > :) Years of watching my biker buddy mechanics in the garage has given me > familiarity with _all_ of the following :) > > For those who may not be familiar with the functions of all these tools: 22. GARDEN PRUNERS: Used for removing bits of fingertips in a procedure known as 'deadheading'..... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 14:13:02 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:dn7qml$6at$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >>>> not if there's a err... pork sword... between the two >>> LOL. "Pork Sword"? Never heard that one before. >>> >> good grief... here's me thinking it was in common usage! no wonder >> people look at me funny when i say it out loud in public ;o) > > And you say this in public.....why? Crazy Brits, don't even try to understand them. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 14:25:40 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7csl63-06l.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org> indigo wrote: > Frog Prince wrote: >> Spamvireslayer" >> >> | > true.. but getting back to the initial point which was that it >> | > wouldn't be too surprising if music CDs were introduced that will >> | > expire, compelling you to buy them again (which is basically what >> | > they're doing with MP3s) >> | >> | When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because >> | that's the only place I'll be getting my music if that catches on. >> >> Right now the only way to get air play is by paying. > > The FCC just had a big crackdown on payola. Come on people, it isn't payola and hasn't been since the 50s. This is called something totally different, pay for play or something like that. It isn't the same at all, see, the words are totally different. And if you say you are paying $5000 to play a song 50 times, if you admit it up front and in public, then everything is ok. No payola here, just doing honest promoting, just keep moving, nothing to see here. Besides, I think the record companies have been a little upset at the monster they created, how much it costs them now to pay for airplay, and would like to see the FCC try and cheapen that a bit by smacking down the media companies. From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 14:27:27 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:30:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >> I rather think that hubby would be alarmed at the very idea... we >> shall see! > > I can just imagine it....ok, honey, so WHERE did you learn this trick!?! Well, if you see a little Zorro action in return, then the secret might already be out of the bag. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 8 14:31:38 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was whatever.... References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dn9bvp$5tf$2 @news.spamcop.net: > "JohnL" > >| >> maybe she's referring to her bust size? >| > >| > how did........never mind...LOL >| > >| > >| > >| Ok, now on to the letter. ;-) > > This email is sponsored by the letter ..... ? > > > D ? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:31:08 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259A2D04A3Espamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > or cheddar cheese for that matter... i wonder why Cheddar doesn't complain > about it. Stilton, on the other hand.....doesn't that have to be made in a certain place? From jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com Thu Dec 8 09:40:12 2005 From: jwjr at poSPAMSUCKSbox.com (J. Weaver Jr.) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: >>You just thought about a red hammer! , didn't you? >> >> >> >>If this is not your answer, you are among 2% of people who have a >>different, if not abnormal, mind. >> >>98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this exercise. Hmmm. "Red screwdriver" here. Must be Happy Hour... -JW From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 09:54:12 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 09:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dn7tbo$8dm$2@news.spamcop.net... > "Sylvesterthekat" > | > | > I'm told old men last longer or is it that it just takes longer to get > | > there? > | > | take longer to get up in the first place you mean > > get it up? you mean these things go DOWN? (says he who's middle name is > Kokopellie) Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the weenie...brag brag brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, do you? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Dec 8 15:02:05 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn9hfq$8st$1 @news.spamcop.net: > you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, do you? What the %^#$%$# do you think we've been waiting for?? :P From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:04:59 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dn9hfq$8st$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:dn7tbo$8dm$2@news.spamcop.net... >> "Sylvesterthekat" >> | >> | > I'm told old men last longer or is it that it just takes longer to >> get >> | > there? >> | >> | take longer to get up in the first place you mean >> >> get it up? you mean these things go DOWN? (says he who's middle name is >> Kokopellie) > > Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the > weenie...brag brag > brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, do you? > Such comparisons may not be verbalized, but they're still made....and moreover easily made without comment given that the objects being compared are usually quite obvious. The market for breast augmentation and padded bras would dry up to nothing if it wasn't for such comparisons! ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:11:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the > weenie...brag brag brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup > sizes, do you? No, you gals just cattily mutter under your breath "I know hers aren't real"..... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 8 15:17:38 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn9drd$6r0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: >> >> Here's a chronology for you: >> >> http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm > > You coulda just said "yes, you are correct, Indi", ya know..... Yeah, I could have..... but others may not have believed us and/or required collaboration... ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:42:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259CC46194Dspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > SEVERAL ice cubes? do you have a pencil d*ck? LOL > that made me laugh out loud............ From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:43:51 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns97259A547190Cspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > LOL, well I'd probably be ok and besides, your mouth wouldn't be full of > ice cubes... of necessity If ice cubes even touch my teeth I go through the roof.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:44:29 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 10:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dn7r0e$6jg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > *splorf* > > > > p o r k s w o r d ? ? ? > > > > Is it kosher?? Rarely....... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 08:28:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu Dec 8 11:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9725A4DD61BEEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: ||| At the end of this message, you are asked a question. ||| ||| You just thought about a red hammer! , didn't you? ||| ||| If this is not your answer, you are among 2% of people who have a ||| different, if not abnormal, mind. ||| ||| 98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this ||| exercise. ||| || || || now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red || nail LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst || doing the mental math) Err...umm...'blue screwdriver'. At least you got the red part right :) -- kk == Kill -9 them all. Let init sort them out. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Dec 8 11:28:25 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Dec 8 11:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Porpoise wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > > Porpoise wrote: > > > > > >> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! > > > > > > The day we declared war on the Japs and Jerries? > > > > Here's a chronology for you: > > > > http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm > > You coulda just said "yes, you are correct, Indi", ya know..... But you weren't. As I noted, the declaration of war on Germany came three days later. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com Support the troops. Bring them home NOW! From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 16:21:10 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 12:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns97259A547190Cspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> LOL, well I'd probably be ok and besides, your mouth wouldn't be full of >> ice cubes... of necessity > > If ice cubes even touch my teeth I go through the roof.... So, you know, that's not at all normal though. From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:12:51 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Dec 8 12:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: <43986993.950793F3@spamcop.net> Sylvesterthekat wrote: [...megasnip...] > >QUICK! THINK ABOUT A COLOR AND A TOOL! [...] > >You just thought about a red hammer! , didn't you? > > > > > > > >If this is not your answer, you are among 2% of people who have a > >different, if not abnormal, mind. > > > >98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this exercise. > > > > now strictly speaking I'm a 2% because I'm an idiot... I said red nail > LOL LOL (but in my defence I was somewhat distracted whilst doing the > mental math) "Purple screwdriver" for me. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:15:57 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Dec 8 12:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Who says backscatter isn't a problem? Message-ID: <43986A4D.C1AAE366@spamcop.net> http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/12/08/cyber.attack.fbi.reut/index.html [...] [FBI assistant director] Reigel added the FBI did not have a suspect but had enough information to track down the author of a recent version of the Sober computer worm that nearly knocked the FBI's computer system offline last month. Because that worm disguised itself as a message from the FBI, messages sent to invalid e-mail addresses were routed back to the FBI at a rate of 200,000 per hour. "It almost killed our system," he said. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:37:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Dec 8 12:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Spamvireslayer wrote: > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > > news:Xns97259A547190Cspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > >> LOL, well I'd probably be ok and besides, your mouth wouldn't be > >> full of ice cubes... of necessity > > > > If ice cubes even touch my teeth I go through the roof.... > > So, you know, that's not at all normal though. I tried telling her that, she ignored me... From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:48:45 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn9r1p$eg1$1@news.spamcop.net... | > > If ice cubes even touch my teeth I go through the roof.... | > | > So, you know, that's not at all normal though. | | I tried telling her that, she ignored me... | and being ignored is a new experience? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:53:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > | > I'm told old men last longer or is it that it just takes longer to get | > | > there? | > | | > | take longer to get up in the first place you mean | > | > get it up? you mean these things go DOWN? (says he who's middle name is | > Kokopellie) | | Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the weenie...brag brag | brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, do you? No they expect the guys to do that ... From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 12:58:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:00:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > | When are they going to start charging for free radio? Because | > | that's the only place I'll be getting my music if that catches on. | > | > | > Right now the only way to get air play is by paying. | | The FCC just had a big crackdown on payola. Only one form, now each station has a play coordinator (not sure of the title) who is not actually on the station payroll but must be paid regardless if you want your stuff to get air time. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:20:08 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Who says backscatter isn't a problem? References: <43986A4D.C1AAE366@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Kenneth Brody" wrote in message news:43986A4D.C1AAE366@spamcop.net... > http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/12/08/cyber.attack.fbi.reut/index.html > > [...] > > [FBI assistant director] Reigel added the FBI did not have a suspect but > had enough information to track down the author of a recent version of > the Sober computer worm that nearly knocked the FBI's computer system > offline last month. > > Because that worm disguised itself as a message from the FBI, messages > sent to invalid e-mail addresses were routed back to the FBI at a rate > of 200,000 per hour. > > "It almost killed our system," he said. > > -- deleted one of those from my darkstar account just a few mins ago Bill From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 10:19:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! References: Message-ID: In news:Xns97266295A8CFAspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || Borgholio wrote in news:dn8459$93f$4 || @news.spamcop.net: || ||| No, it's the Goatmaster! ||| || || ok, now I'm beginning to wonder about you dude Was it him that got Quake running on XP???? I seem to remember a thread in .geeks??? yep... so therefore I am assuming: http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1916& -- kk == First things first -- but not necessarily in that order From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Dec 8 10:18:54 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:20:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: kram wrote: > In news:Xns97266295A8CFAspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, > Sylvesterthekat opined: > || Borgholio wrote in news:dn8459$93f$4 > || @news.spamcop.net: > || > ||| No, it's the Goatmaster! > ||| > || > || ok, now I'm beginning to wonder about you dude > > Was it him that got Quake running on XP???? I seem to remember a thread in > .geeks??? > yep... > > so therefore I am assuming: > > http://www.scorched3d.co.uk/phpBB2/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1916& > Amazing....but no, that's not me. :) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Dec 8 18:23:00 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9726693BD9C15spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn9ke2$air$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > >>> Is it kosher?? >> >> Rarely....... > > I should hope not... if it were kosher it'd be of no use to me cos > presumably it would have had its throat slit Errrrr........ Ummmm.......... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:34:31 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9725A4DD61BEEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > >At the end of this message, you are asked a question. my answer wasn't a red hammer LOL Bill From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:27:17 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972662BFA4BF0spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > yes i'd question the 2% but it does seem that most people choose red or > hammer or both. odd for me because usually i'd tend to pick yellow blue hammer for me From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:36:15 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972662E7FBBC8spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > "D.F. Manno" wrote in news:dfm2a3l0t2- > CE8130.23010007122005@news.cesmail.net: > >> >> I thought of a green pneumatic drill press. > > LOL, you would OMG that's exactly what I was gonna reply to him with....... now THAT'S strange Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:43:49 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9725A600C6AACinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Porpoise" wrote in news:dn7qca$5nj$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! > > ... And then.... WOW!!! ...the 9th!! actually guys, "tomorrow" is the ninth........... D&R Bill From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Dec 8 19:54:32 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Dec 8 13:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: this is downright strange References: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:11:53 +0000 (UTC), Sylvesterthekat coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >>QUICK! THINK ABOUT A COLOR AND A TOOL! >> >>You just thought about a red hammer! , didn't you? Nope. >>If this is not your answer, you are among 2% of people who have a >>different, if not abnormal, mind. >> >>98% of the folks would answer a red hammer while doing this exercise. "Blue saw" here. My screen background is blue, but I don't know where the "saw" bit came from... -- Steve Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. From nobody at nowhere.invalid Thu Dec 8 19:57:03 2005 From: nobody at nowhere.invalid (Steven Maesslein) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hey, it's December 7th... References: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 13:43:49 -0500, Bcs1 coughed into spamcop.social and left this in : >>> That's nothing! Tomorrow is December 8th.......!! >> >> ... And then.... WOW!!! ...the 9th!! > > actually guys, "tomorrow" is the ninth........... How the hell do you expect anyone to kep track of this? It changes every day... -- Steve "I can remember when a good politician had to be 75 percent ability and 25 percent actor, but I can well see the day when the reverse could be true." -- Harry Truman From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:54:22 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7m6t$2fq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > You got some serious gum/tooth issues if holding an ice cube in your mouth > causes pain......how do you eat cold food? Or drink ice cold beverages? Very carefully....as long as they don't touch my teeth I'm fine, I don't usually eat ice cold food except for ice cream, and that doesn't have to be chewed. If the dentist even squirts cold water in my mouth I'm jumping a foot out of the chair. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:55:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972668E785AA6spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the > > weenie...brag brag brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, > > do you? > > You don't?! Well I guess you don't live in Hollywood. You *know* I don't live in Hollywood, LOL. Out here it's too cold to go running around with your tits out.... From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 13:42:34 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972667A3D22C2spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... | "indigo" wrote in news:dn9e3o$70q$1@news.spamcop.net: | | | > No. You got a tiny mouth? | | No, but ice cubes aren't small, I could probably only get two, maybe 3 in | my mouth at a time and there'd be room for nothing else. These are your | standard home made cubes mind, not the small things you get from ice making | machines. | | | > I can just imagine it....ok, honey, so WHERE did you learn this trick!?! | | LOL, that's what I was thinking hehehehe. How to explain where I got the | idea from? Oprah, that's it you were watching Oprah ... but then you'll have a lot more to explain. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:10:01 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:15:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Merry Christmas to ME! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns972668B8D6B24spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > dunno... and Wensleydale.. let's not forget Wensleydale Gromit! I think I tried Wensleydale once, it was kind of boring, if I recall.... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 19:11:05 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:15:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Rants from a non-shopping guy... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dn9hfq$8st$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Can you see me rolling my eyes? You boys, it's all about the >> weenie...brag brag brag....you don't see us girls comparing cup sizes, >> do you? > > You don't?! Well I guess you don't live in Hollywood. So, you hear at times that some women don't get surgery because they think men want them to have bigger boobs, but for their own personal reasons. So, what is the actual percentage for that. Google is pretty much crap for finding statistics like that. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:11:22 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:15:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:jkrl63-ctk.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > > Crazy Brits, don't even try to understand them. Silly billys, the whole bunch of them.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:12:51 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:15:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:r43m63-k5n.ln1@mothlight.dyndns.org... > > So, you know, that's not at all normal though. Tis for me, my teeth have always been sensitive. There is a difference between 'sensitive' and 'oh shit there's a crack in my filling' though. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:14:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: What a contrast References: <439742E5.2B4A612E@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Don Wannit" wrote in message news:dn8g6s$lm0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > IIUC, the Roman Catholic church holds this position, or if not, changed > it only recently. In fact, if one of the couple were sterile, the > marriage would not be allowed since they could not have children. Those Catholics and their "family values".... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:16:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn7lja$1qc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Mr K. Mean wrote: > > Just saying that radio isn't free. You are paying for it by listening > > to commercials. > > No, I don't. That's what the pre-programmed buttons are for. I can surf the > radio just as well as I do the TV. What he said. I do it when I hear hip hop music too. Hate that crap..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:16:38 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:20:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Just a note to you all.... References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns972593FB3B39Finnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn7cq7$ru7$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > So, it's black socks with everything then? Or tube socks in packs of 20? > > ... and what's wrong with tube socks?? ;-) Nothing, if you're a geek..... From g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com Thu Dec 8 19:17:23 2005 From: g2p4i1902 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:20:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Bad sex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dn9ke2$air$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >>> Is it kosher?? >> Rarely....... > > I should hope not... if it were kosher it'd be of no use to me cos > presumably it would have had its throat slit Well, where does the whole kosher thing stand on meat that, let's say, gets sucked on, perhaps chewed slightly, maybe even swallowed, although not all the way, but isn't actually ingested. Does that still need to be strictly kosher? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:19:39 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dn9eah$748$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > We don't dance with each other either ;-) Oh, but if Carrie and Miranda dance with each other, that's fine by you, innit.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Dec 8 14:20:03 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Dec 8 14:25:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Anyone have Cigna Core Plan? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat"