From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 01:30:08 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue May 31 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shrub making even less sense than usual References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7huvj$3fp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: >> No need, I've done the search for you: >> >> > http://www.askoxford.com/results/?view=dict&field-12668446=articulable&branch=13842570&textsearchtype=exact&sortorder=score%2Cname >> >> The result being: >> >> "Sorry, there were no results for your search." Same as the Cambridge >> Dictionary. So there. Nya, Nya. > > Oh, you saw it on the internet so it MUST be true, eh? Nah... The Cambridge and Oxford dictionaries - which are *the* authoritative ENGLISH dictionaries. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 01:37:22 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue May 31 19:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: it takes a special kind of idiot.. References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7i4nu$6j7$1@news.spamcop.net... > Redstone wrote: >> Borgholio wrote in >> news:d7dqhc$rvi$3@news.spamcop.net: >>> >>>I wonder how they got the gas in the tubes... >>> >> >> >> >> You mean fluid.. > > Gas = Gasoline Don't have Gasoline in the UK - It's petroleum spirit. (petrol, for short). From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 01:43:36 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue May 31 19:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7idpr$b7f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Skiwi wrote: >> indigo wrote: >> > Skiwi wrote: >> > >> >>And torture (*not* just that leading to organ failure!), illegal >> >>dentition, >> > >> > >> > Whazzat? Giving prisoners bad dental treatment? ;-) >> >> Hey, if the Elizabethans did without spell checkers... > > The would have known the dentition isn't an articulable word? ;-) B******S......... ;-) From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Jun 1 02:09:54 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Jun 1 04:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Clear Title Message-ID: A New Orleans lawyer sought an FHA loan for a client. He was told the loan would be granted if he could prove satisfactory title to a parcel of property being offered as collateral. The title to the property dated back to 1803, which took the Lawyer three months to track down. After sending the information to the FHA, he received the following reply (Actual letter): "Upon review of your letter adjoining your client's loan application, we note that the request is supported by an Abstract of Title. While we compliment the able manner in which you have prepared and presented the application, we must point out that you have only cleared title to the proposed collateral property back to 1803. Before final approval can be accorded, it will be necessary to clear the title back to its origin." Annoyed, the lawyer responded as follows (actual letter): "Your letter regarding title in Case No. 189156 has been received. I note that you wish to have title extended further than the 194 years covered by the present application. I was unaware that any educated person in this country, particularly those working in the property area, would not know that Louisiana was purchased, by the US, from France in 1803, the year of origin identified in our application. For the edification of uninformed FHA bureaucrats, the title to the land prior to U.S.ownership was obtained from France,which had acquired it by Right of Conquest from Spain. The land came into the possession of Spain by Right of Discovery made in the year 1492 by a sea captain named Christopher Columbus,who had been granted the privilege of seeking a new route to India by the Spanish Monarch, Isabella. The good Queen, Isabella, being a pious woman and almost as careful about titles as the FHA, took the precaution of securing the blessing of the Pope before she sold her jewels to finance Columbus' expedition. Now the Pope, as I'm sure you may know, is the emissary of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, and God, it is commonly accepted,created this world. Therefore, I believe it is safe to presume that God also made that part of the world called Louisiana. God, therefore, would be the owner of origin and His origins date back to before the beginning of time, the world as we know it AND the FHA. I hope you find God's original claim to be satisfactory. Now, may we have our loan?" The loan was approved. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Jun 1 02:11:44 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Jun 1 04:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] May the Toast be with you. Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5584903627&rd=1 From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Jun 1 03:09:29 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Jun 1 05:10:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: May the Toast be with you. References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=55849 > 03627&rd =1 Some people have way, way too much time on their hands. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 09:49:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 08:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > No. But get a load of this site: > > http://www.rentexoticcars.com/ > > LOL, the price to rent a ferrari for a day is extraordinary! Hey, I didn't know Cadillac made the XLR -- pretty sweet for an American car maker, eh? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 08:46:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 10:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7kat4$dd9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > > No. But get a load of this site: > > > > http://www.rentexoticcars.com/ > > > > LOL, the price to rent a ferrari for a day is extraordinary! > > Hey, I didn't know Cadillac made the XLR -- pretty sweet for an American car > maker, eh? It's not a bad Merc ripoff yeah LOL. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 14:00:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 13:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: VETs honor Fonda References: <429b89b4$1_2@x-privat.org> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7io64$h4i$1@news.spamcop.net... > http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/chainfl/fonda.jpg > I think Lyndon Johnson should be honored in the same way. He is, after all, the one who started shipping kids to that hell hole, isn't he? Why is none of this "outrage" directed where it belongs? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Jun 1 19:08:58 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Jun 1 13:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shrub making even less sense than usual References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9667CE29D9900TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! >> "indigo" wrote in message >> news:d7huvj$3fp$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>> Oh, you saw it on the internet so it MUST be true, eh? >> >> Nah... The Cambridge and Oxford dictionaries - which are *the* >> authoritative ENGLISH dictionaries. > > It may be some kind of dictionary from Oxford, but 't'isn't the OED, as is > pretty clearly stated on the error page that indicates that it doesn't > exist. If you'd looked a bit closer (like the footnote) you'd have seen that it is all part of the bigger "entity" that is "Oxford University Press" - which also publishes the paper version OED - along with numerous other lexical publications. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 11:39:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 13:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: "Skiwi" wrote in message news:d7jir0$vid$1@news.spamcop.net... > Mrs Bush said she believed former first lady Senator Hillary Clinton > would be the Democratic nominee in the 2008 presidential race. > > "I'm not going to vote for her, but I'm betting on her," she said." Well that's interesting. As for Jeb, I'd say it depends on whether the current Shrub's pigeons have come home to roost by the time he's thinking of running. If this Bush has gone down in history by then as the criminal he is, I'd say Jeb is SOL. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 11:42:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 13:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: anyone here watch NCIS? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7hsk3$2d7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I try to avoid watching the ads, they give too much away. But I'm > > still not convinced. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. > > Til next year? Til November I expect. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 15:10:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d75bvd$7iq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > > What happened to the $100K reward money? The should have given the whole > amount to > > the city and shut the hell up! > > LOL yeah. I imagine they could scrape it together by mortgaging houses and > whatnot but when she reappeared they didn't have to. > Oh, I love the statement that appeared with the 13K they repayed on the news this morning, saying that SHE felt she wasn't "obliged" to pay any of the costs, but was agreeing to pay the overtime, while they write off the rest of the 30K, arrogant little witch. She should be paying it all, and saying thank you.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 15:11:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7ks2k$o90$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Well that's interesting. > > As for Jeb, I'd say it depends on whether the current Shrub's pigeons have > come home to roost by the time he's thinking of running. If this Bush has > gone down in history by then as the criminal he is, I'd say Jeb is SOL. Depends on how many remember and how many agree with the mess he made of the Shiavo case, we don't need more of him sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. His dad says he 'doesn't want to', I say with go with Jeb on this one. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 15:13:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7ht9a$2k9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > And damn, did I do something stupid yesterday -- played golf with a bunch of > friends, we went out to dinner afterwards, and I drank two > beers......stupid, stupid, stupid.....I forgot I can't drink beer anymore, > not even Michelob.......woke up this morning (struggled to wake up, > actually) and my muscles are aching like crazy. Dumb Indi! How could you 'forget' that? Too embarrassed to order a Pimms Cup? By the way, alcohol isn't on the list anyway.......tsk tsk.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 15:17:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > > How could you 'forget' that? Too embarrassed to order a Pimms Cup? > By the way, alcohol isn't on the list anyway.......tsk tsk.... WTF is a Pimms Cup anyway? And I was dying for a beer, it just tastes "right" after a round of golf......but I *did* manage to remember not to have a beer after my softball game yesterday (and that's a bigger tradition than the 19th hole for me and the gang). From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 15:35:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 14:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7ku2s$pd2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > WTF is a Pimms Cup anyway? And I was dying for a beer, it just tastes > "right" after a round of golf......but I *did* manage to remember not to > have a beer after my softball game yesterday (and that's a bigger tradition > than the 19th hole for me and the gang). > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm Somehow I gather you won't be giving up your bad habits to do the cleansing diet, eh? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Jun 1 16:42:01 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Jun 1 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm Thanks for that link. My aide refuses to go to the state store for me. Now I don't need her to. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:58:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7ku2s$pd2$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > WTF is a Pimms Cup anyway? And I was dying for a beer, it just > > tastes "right" after a round of golf......but I *did* manage to > > remember not to have a beer after my softball game yesterday (and > > that's a bigger tradition than the 19th hole for me and the gang). > > > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm > > Somehow I gather you won't be giving up your bad habits to do the > cleansing diet, eh? I don't think my problems were anywhere near as bad as yours, and no I won't be going on a full blast cleansing diet unless my present course of action (which is working wonderfully based on how I feel) doesn't end up working when my one month supply of Yeast Fend runs out. I'll do the best I can to avoid bad stuff but I ain't giving up _everything_ unless I absolutely have to (the directions say "limit intake of xxx and yyy", not "do not consume any xxx and yyy"). We'll just have to wait and see how things go. P.S. Thank for the net-nanny banned link. Care to describe it instead? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:31:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7l416$sg5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I don't think my problems were anywhere near as bad as yours, and no I won't > be going on a full blast cleansing diet unless my present course of action > (which is working wonderfully based on how I feel) doesn't end up working > when my one month supply of Yeast Fend runs out. I'll do the best I can to > avoid bad stuff but I ain't giving up _everything_ unless I absolutely have > to (the directions say "limit intake of xxx and yyy", not "do not consume > any xxx and yyy"). But common sense would dictate that if you are trying to kill the yeast, you shouldn't be eating anything that would feed it, otherwise you're wasting your time and money with the supplements because they can't do the job. Gee whiz you're a wuss, you're worse than I ever was sticking to a diet! What's very weird after you do it though is you become acutely aware of what foods might be bothering you. I had pasta, felt lousy, I had steak last weekend, and I never felt better, so I guess I'm going to have to go very easy on the white stuff. Something I ate this weekend violently disagreed with me, and I know it wasn't food poisoning because my friend at the same thing and she wasn't sick. I think it may have been Stilton, which will be a tragic disappointment, but mold is mold and maybe that was making me sick anyway, especially since I already had a 'fungus' problem. No bleu cheese on the diet because 1) no mold or fungus, like mushrooms, and 2) no cheese. I ate some goat cheese, no problem. Are you taking probiotics as well? Or are those in the yeast fend? > > P.S. Thank for the net-nanny banned link. Care to describe it instead? PIMM'S Brand Facts § One of England's most stylish pleasures for over 150 years. Pimm's Cup was created on the heels of the invention of Pimm's No. 1 in 1840. First mixed as a digestive tonic by James Pimm, this concoction, made with numerous herbs and quinine, was initially served only at Mr Pimm's oyster bar in the financial district of London. Pimm's today is still made to the original recipe which remains a closely guarded secret known only to six people. Tasting Notes § Pimm's is a gin-based drink, infused with aromatics and mixed with lemonade for consumption § Pimm's has an orange-brown hue and displays very attractive sweet orange peel aromas. Sweet on the palate, but not cloying. Tangy, subtle herbal bitters with brown spice develop on the finish. § Adding champagne as opposed to lemonade, makes a true Pimm's No. 1 Cup § For the perfect summer drink, mix 1 measure of Pimms, 2 or 3 measures of lemondae or ginger ale, add ice, slices of orange, lemon and cucumber and garnish with mint. Best served in a pitcher. Benefits & Features § Unique tasting aperitif § Refreshing – typically consumed in summer § Ideal long drink Brand Specifications § Alcohol Volume: 25% § Size Variants: 700ml I think I taste a tiny hint of pear in there too - very refreshing and not heavy or too sweet. I mix it with ginger ale and lemon, but I haven't tried lemonade or champagne yet. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:32:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:35:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-7DE123.15420001062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm > > Thanks for that link. My aide refuses to go to the state store for me. > Now I don't need her to. Stocking up on Pimms for the summer? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:35:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hi References: Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:d7hoaj$vpi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Did I think she was ugly...hmm...maybe I just didn't appreciate her at > first, especially as she has plenty of what I appreciate in a woman... I think you said all you could envision was her father........she's way better looking. I miss her show, I haven't seen it in a long time, but at least they're selling her goods on QVC now - I guess Nigella has arrived! As > for having time to post, 'work' is definitely time off for the new father. > Don't worry, my napping changing skills are really coming on well. The > golden rule is to put the clean one in position before turning to dispose of > the other. Bare bottom = invitation to wet. Be thankful you don't have a boy, that's all I'm sayin'.........."here's pee in your eye!" From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 14:36:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Very interesting article in the Charlotte Observer -- "Baptists, remember who you are" References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7g5ht$49n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > This should by pass the registration page as well: > > http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Baptists%2C%20remember%20who%20you%20are%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&as_qdr=all&tab=wn It doesn't. But ep@juno.com pw 123456 works. " Baptists regard as an enormity any attempt to force the conscience, or to constrain men, by outward penalties, to this or that form of religious belief. Persecution may make men hypocrites, but it will not make them Christians." " If only they'd stick to their own doctrine! Seems they're all trying to do just that to anyone who's not a Baptist! Let's hope this initiative gets the message across. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:53:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 16:55:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] So what about Deep Throat? Message-ID: Anyone else feel suspicious that the family pushed him to reveal himself because they wanted to cash in while they could? My skeptic meter is whining loudly..... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:56:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 17:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: Gee whiz you're a wuss, you're worse than I ever > was sticking to a diet! > Guilty as charged ;-) > What's very weird after you do it though is you become acutely aware > of what foods might be bothering you. I had pasta, felt lousy, I > had steak last weekend, and I never felt better, so I guess I'm going > to have to go very easy on the white stuff. Something I ate this > weekend violently disagreed with me, and I know it wasn't food > poisoning because my friend at the same thing and she wasn't sick. So far the reaction to the beer was the only thing I've noticed. I'm paying attention to what foods might be bad for me by using my nose -- since I started taking probiotics and the yeast fend my nasal congestion has almost disappeared -- I always thought it was hay fever and/or normal allergies, but then again it never went away during the winter. So I suspect if I eat something that makes my nose drippy it's a no no -- so far beer is the only thing to really set me off. I > think it may have been Stilton, which will be a tragic > disappointment, but mold is mold and maybe that was making me sick > anyway, especially since I already had a 'fungus' problem. No bleu > cheese on the diet because 1) no mold or fungus, like mushrooms, No loss there, I HATE mushrooms and avoid bleu cheese dressing because it's so high in fat, and I only use no-fat salad dressing anyway. > > Are you taking probiotics as well? Or are those in the yeast fend? > > There's a little bit of probiotics in the yeast fend, but I'm taking a regular 6-ingredient probiotic supplement too. > > PIMM'S > > § Pimm's is a gin-based drink, infused with aromatics and mixed > with lemonade for consumption > > § Pimm's has an orange-brown hue and displays very attractive > sweet orange peel aromas. Sweet on the palate, but not cloying. > Tangy, subtle herbal bitters with brown spice develop on the finish. > > § Adding champagne as opposed to lemonade, makes a true Pimm's > No. 1 Cup > > § For the perfect summer drink, mix 1 measure of Pimms, 2 or 3 > measures of lemondae or ginger ale, add ice, slices of orange, lemon > and cucumber and garnish with mint. Best served in a pitcher. > Sounds kind of good, but I've never seen it around here, that's for sure. Is it a New England style drink, like say a Black Eyed Susan is associated with Baltimore and the Preakness? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 17:59:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 17:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So what about Deep Throat? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Anyone else feel suspicious that the family pushed him to reveal > himself because they wanted to cash in while they could? My skeptic > meter is whining loudly..... Nah, the article I read basically said he is still tormented by thoughts of betrayal while "doing the right thing" at the same time. I think he just wanted to get it off his chest so he could die in peace. He 91 or so, don't have much time left (his health is declining rapidly, said the article). From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 18:03:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Jun 1 17:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7l7ec$usf$2@news.spamcop.net... > Spamvireslayer wrote: > Gee whiz you're a wuss, you're worse than I ever > > was sticking to a diet! > > > > Guilty as charged ;-) > > So far the reaction to the beer was the only thing I've noticed. I'm paying > attention to what foods might be bad for me by using my nose -- since I > started taking probiotics and the yeast fend my nasal congestion has almost > disappeared -- I always thought it was hay fever and/or normal allergies, > but then again it never went away during the winter. So I suspect if I eat > something that makes my nose drippy it's a no no -- so far beer is the only > thing to really set me off. Wine and beer have yeast, and sulfites which can cause congestion - red always gets me. Stay away from anything "moldy", and "yeasty" or fermented. > Sounds kind of good, but I've never seen it around here, that's for sure. Is > it a New England style drink, like say a Black Eyed Susan is associated with > Baltimore and the Preakness? Nope, veddy English...... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 18:15:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Wed Jun 1 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: Stay away from anything "moldy", and "yeasty" or > fermented. > Sounds like a good thing to avoid in choosing a woman too ;-) > > Sounds kind of good, but I've never seen it around here, that's for > > sure. Is it a New England style drink, like say a Black Eyed Susan > > is associated with Baltimore and the Preakness? > > Nope, veddy English...... There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty Python, I ain't interested in any English exports....... From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Jun 1 18:53:43 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Jun 1 17:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So what about Deep Throat? References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > Anyone else feel suspicious that the family pushed him to reveal himself > because they > wanted to cash in while they could? My skeptic meter is whining loudly..... I was, until Woodstein confirmed it. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:08:59 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7l8i4$vht$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Spamvireslayer wrote: > Stay away from anything "moldy", and "yeasty" or >> fermented. >> > > Sounds like a good thing to avoid in choosing a woman too ;-) > What if they bathed in Monostat 7 first? :-) >> >> Nope, veddy English...... > > There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty > Python, I ain't interested in any English exports....... > > You should give some oatmeal stout a try... of course it is only good once in a while particularly with it's $3+ price tag. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:10:59 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: May the Toast be with you. References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- 989B67.02092801062005@news.cesmail.net: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=55849 >> 03627&rd =1 > > Some people have way, way too much time on their hands. > Let me guess.. ebay doesn't charge for starting an auction, even dumb ones like this. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:14:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7l7ec$usf$2@news.spamcop.net... > No loss there, I HATE mushrooms and avoid bleu cheese dressing because it's > so high in fat, and I only use no-fat salad dressing anyway. Oh I LOVE mushrooms. I'd be very unhappy to have to cut those out! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:15:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7l8i4$vht$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Nope, veddy English...... > > There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty Python, I > ain't interested in any English exports....... *narrows eyes at Indi* From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:15:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: May the Toast be with you. References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns96689AA62DC91tinlc@216.154.195.61... > > Let me guess.. ebay doesn't charge for starting an auction, even dumb ones > like this. Actually they do, but it's only a couple of bucks. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:23:52 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Dummies... References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in news:d7g8rc$5v6$1@news.spamcop.net: > > She responded, "sorry, I don't want to get a virus" and dropped the IM > conversation. > > Sigh... Sounds like someone who would buy from spammers. :-\ From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:26:18 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:d7htjb$2rq$1@news.spamcop.net: > > It's real interesting when a car load of city folk come trailing into > the local hardware looking of 'cleaning supplies'. Story is inevitably > the same. > Cleaning? Skunk? What a concept!! Nothing gets that stuff off. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Wed Jun 1 23:27:07 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: it takes a special kind of idiot.. References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:d7isqi$jfb$1@news.spamcop.net: >>> >>> You mean fluid.. >> >> Gas = Gasoline > > Don't have Gasoline in the UK - It's petroleum spirit. (petrol, for > short). > > Either way... how did they manage it, and how dumb of an idea. :-p From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:26:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7g05p$1fq$1@news.spamcop.net... > Some might suggest we need a second Brutus ... Would that be Cheney then? has to be a trusted lieutenant... Colin Powell shoulda done it while he still had the opportunity LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:27:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-C84B5F.18501930052005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > > If "Caesar" somehow finds himself elected to a third term, I'd support that > > idea. > > There was a Ted Rall cartoon that had the Shrub admitting that he lost > the 2000 election, then announcing his 2008 re-election campaign. LOL, good one. From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Jun 1 16:29:39 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in > news:d7htjb$2rq$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >>It's real interesting when a car load of city folk come trailing into >>the local hardware looking of 'cleaning supplies'. Story is inevitably >>the same. >> > > > Cleaning? Skunk? What a concept!! Nothing gets that stuff off. :-) > Tomato juice. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:31:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: it takes a special kind of idiot.. References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns96673088A5220tinlc@216.154.195.61... > Borgholio wrote in > news:d7dqhc$rvi$3@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > > > > I wonder how they got the gas in the tubes... > > > > > You mean fluid.. gas... oline From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:13:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: VETs honor Fonda References: <429b89b4$1_2@x-privat.org> Message-ID: "Heidi" | > http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/chainfl/fonda.jpg | > | I think Lyndon Johnson should be honored in the same way. He is, after all, | the one who started shipping kids to that hell hole, isn't he? Why is none | of this "outrage" directed where it belongs? Never saw a picture of LBJ on an AA gun ... espcially not one in N NAM. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:15:39 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > Well that's interesting. | > | > As for Jeb, I'd say it depends on whether the current Shrub's pigeons have | > come home to roost by the time he's thinking of running. If this Bush has | > gone down in history by then as the criminal he is, I'd say Jeb is SOL. | | Depends on how many remember and how many agree with the mess he made of the Shiavo | case, we don't need more of him sticking his nose where it doesn't belong. His dad | says he 'doesn't want to', I say with go with Jeb on this one. Bush the Lesser pontificated the same way. No I don't (please make me ..) From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:22:49 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Very interesting article in the Charlotte Observer -- "Baptists, remember who you are" References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > This should by pass the registration page as well: | > | > | http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Baptists%2C%20remember%20who%20you%20are%22&hl=en&lr=lang_en&newwindow=1&safe=off&sa=N&as_qdr=all&tab=wn | | It doesn't. But ep@juno.com pw 123456 works. | | " Baptists regard as an enormity any attempt to force the conscience, or to | constrain men, by outward penalties, to this or that form of religious | belief. Persecution may make men hypocrites, but it will not make them | Christians." " | | If only they'd stick to their own doctrine! Seems they're all trying to do | just that to anyone who's not a Baptist! | | Let's hope this initiative gets the message across. Brought the matter up with our Church men's group this week. Kinda sneaked this one past the preacher by asking some seemingly simple but loaded questions. Signifantly there were a lot more questions in the following discussion and some personal commitment to research the details. Surprisingly they saw themselves and more than a few of the Republican politicians in what was written. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:30:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | Wine and beer have yeast, and sulfites which can cause congestion - red always gets | me. Stay away from anything "moldy", and "yeasty" or fermented. Interesting point you make. Wine even with the alcohol removed gives my wife headraces. Turns out that most 'commercial' wine has added sulfites. Even the natural stuff has some but only in trace amounts. Recently she enjoyed her first glass of wine in years. There's a local winery (been here 100+ years) that has some fairly good wine at reasonable prices but little or no sulfites or other additives. Contact me back channel if you want the addy. FP brother_rabbit @ hot mail . com (remove the spaces) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:31:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7ht9a$2k9$1@news.spamcop.net... > I already drink about 1/2 gallon per day! > > And damn, did I do something stupid yesterday -- played golf with a bunch of > friends, we went out to dinner afterwards, and I drank two > beers......stupid, stupid, stupid.....I forgot I can't drink beer anymore, > not even Michelob.......woke up this morning (struggled to wake up, > actually) and my muscles are aching like crazy. Dumb Indi! Stick to Bud and you'll be right as rain LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:34:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:35:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7i8r8$8nn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Charles wrote: > > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > > > > > Dude, my car cost a lot less than $40K. > > > > Dude, where is it? > > Outside? ROFL From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:37:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7i9ka$96t$1@news.spamcop.net... > $3K a month is out of my price range, or stating it a different way I'm not > willing to pay that much a month, there wouldn't be much leftover for > discretionary spending. How long do you have to buy a new house to avoid > taxes? Not very long, I think maybe the same tax year. And aren't they thinking of removing that perk? > Uhm....lessee....bought 3 in the space of about 4 1/2 years, but the one I > have now is a keeper. For now ;-) So you're gonna run it into the ground? > Not even close. I forked out about $4K in cash for each car, the first two > were sold with very low mileage so I got great prices for them. I lost less > than 20% on the resales, meaning cash from car sale + $4 grand = roughly > same payment on the new car. Many people are far less fortunate/far more stupid. They keep selling their cars and getting new ones and in order to have the same monthly payments they're getting longer loans which means they're building up bigger and bigger debts. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:39:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7i9tc$9eb$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Redstone wrote: > > > > Arizona, young indigo... > > > > I'm seriously considering relocating there. > > That would be high on my list if I could somehow find a job there.....lots > of champ-quality golf courses and amazingly cheap housing......but it's so > friggin' hot in the summer I don't think I could take it! You get used to heat, especially dry heat like in AZ. You could retire there! What's that, 10 years off? ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:39:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7idpr$b7f$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Hey, if the Elizabethans did without spell checkers... > > The would have known the dentition isn't an articulable word? ;-) eheheheheheheh From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:38:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So what about Deep Throat? References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-C441CF.17534301062005@news.cesmail.net... > > I was, until Woodstein confirmed it. Oh, I'm not saying he's not Deep Throat, I was just a little turned off by the daughter grinning like a Cheshire cat in front of all the press at the front door, something about that whole scene just bugged me. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 19:39:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7lc06$1mv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7l7ec$usf$2@news.spamcop.net... > > No loss there, I HATE mushrooms and avoid bleu cheese dressing because > it's > > so high in fat, and I only use no-fat salad dressing anyway. > > Oh I LOVE mushrooms. I'd be very unhappy to have to cut those out! Yeah, like I said, as soon as I couldn't have one I really REALLY wanted a big mushroom pizza. So far I've refrained, however.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:41:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shrub making even less sense than usual References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9667C4BA5E413TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns9664C3CA38370TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > > >> > Yabbut, nobbut, yabbut...... neither of those are *real* ENGLISH > >> > dictionaries............ > >> > >> Neither? Uh oh, are we going to have to get the dictionary out again :) > > > > He's being elitist and somewhat priggish. > > Am not :) Besides, I was bugging him about the use of "neither" when there > were more than 2 options. I wasn't referring to you, ya doofus. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:43:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear.... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7ktm8$p8a$1@news.spamcop.net... > Oh, I love the statement that appeared with the 13K they repayed on the news this > morning, saying that SHE felt she wasn't "obliged" to pay any of the costs, but was > agreeing to pay the overtime, while they write off the rest of the 30K, arrogant > little witch. She should be paying it all, and saying thank you.... If it was me, I'd be doing anything and everything possible to look good in the eyes of the judge and maybe jury who'll soon decide if jail is appropriate! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:46:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-7DE123.15420001062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm > > Thanks for that link. My aide refuses to go to the state store for me. > Now I don't need her to. Just as long as you're not in any of these states: Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Tennessee, or Utah. Damned expensive on there too! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:52:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hi References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7l67f$u70$1@news.spamcop.net... > I think you said all you could envision was her father........she's way better > looking. I miss her show, I haven't seen it in a long time, but at least they're > selling her goods on QVC now - I guess Nigella has arrived! Well *he* was rather ugly! I wonder if her mother was playing around LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:54:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7lcvo$2bl$4@news.spamcop.net... > Interesting point you make. who are you, Yoda? From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 16:54:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Wed Jun 1 18:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:d7ldi4$32o$1@news.spamcop.net... > Yeah, like I said, as soon as I couldn't have one I really REALLY wanted a > big mushroom pizza. So far I've refrained, however.... mmmm... pizzaaaaaaaaaa From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Jun 1 16:59:54 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Heidi" wrote in message > news:d7ldi4$32o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Yeah, like I said, as soon as I couldn't have one I really REALLY wanted > a > >>big mushroom pizza. So far I've refrained, however.... > > > mmmm... pizzaaaaaaaaaa > > mmmm....meat lovers with thin crust, extra sauce, easy cheese.... From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 20:00:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: VETs honor Fonda References: <429b89b4$1_2@x-privat.org> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7lcvn$2bl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Never saw a picture of LBJ on an AA gun ... espcially not one in N NAM. > She has admitted her foolishness when she was younger as the biggest lapse of judgment a person could ever have, and she has apologized profusely for it. I don't recall any such apology coming from the goverment, do you? Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous to continue to hold a grudge against someone who was responsible for doing something stupid when she was young, rather than the people who WERE actually responsible for killing our boys in the first place? I'm pretty damn sick of her being made the only villain in the whole war, especially since most of the rumors about what she did and where she did it have turned out to be hoaxes. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 20:06:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7lcru$22n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Cleaning? Skunk? What a concept!! Nothing gets that stuff off. :-) > > > > Tomato juice. Tomato juice is a hoax. Baking soda and peroxide, on the other hand, DOES work, BTDT, at midnight. http://dan.drydog.com/patsyann/skunk.html From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 20:12:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7ldrf$3bi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Damned expensive on there too! I think I pay $13.99 a bottle, that seems to be even half of what they charge in the UK. it's about 12 pounds on line http://www.zencudo.co.uk/shopping/product_details/pimms_no_1_cup_s1048413.html From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Jun 1 17:21:48 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Shopping at Safeway Message-ID: http://funnypictures.dk/funny-picture-530.htm From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 20:26:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7lc1a$1o5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7l8i4$vht$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Nope, veddy English...... > > > > There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty Python, I > > ain't interested in any English exports....... > > *narrows eyes at Indi* Damn straight....!! No English exports my arse....What an ignoranus......... :D From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 20:28:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear.... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7ldn1$343$1@news.spamcop.net... > > If it was me, I'd be doing anything and everything possible to look good in > the eyes of the judge and maybe jury who'll soon decide if jail is > appropriate! LOL, ya think? If she's not smart enough to think of that herself, at least someone in her family should force some humility down her throat - they don't sound that bright either. I think she will not be viewed very sympathetically after this....aww. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Jun 1 20:39:48 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > > > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm > > > > Thanks for that link. My aide refuses to go to the state store for me. > > Now I don't need her to. > > Stocking up on Pimms for the summer? No, I was thinking of other libations. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Jun 1 20:54:49 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Jun 1 19:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > > > http://www.beerliquors.com/buy/liquors/pimms.htm > > > > Thanks for that link. My aide refuses to go to the state store for me. > > Now I don't need her to. > > Just as long as you're not in any of these states: > > Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, > Tennessee, or Utah. I'm in Pennsylvania. > Damned expensive on there too! I hadn't checked the prices. They're more expensive that the Pennsylvania state stores. _Nobody_ charges more for alcohol than the state.stores And they want $12 shipping and handling for _one_ bottle. I'm deleting the bookmark. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Jun 1 20:58:04 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Jun 1 20:00:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear.... References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7ldn1$343$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > If it was me, I'd be doing anything and everything possible to look good > > in the eyes of the judge and maybe jury who'll soon decide if jail is > > appropriate! > > LOL, ya think? If she's not smart enough to think of that herself, at least > someone in her family should force some humility down her throat - they > don't sound that bright either. I think she will not be viewed very > sympathetically after this....aww. I originally thought she wouldn't do time. But then I didn't think she'd bungle this so badly. If she keeps it up, she may get life. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From heybub at gmail.com Wed Jun 1 20:20:20 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Wed Jun 1 20:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: Skiwi wrote: > http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Bush-wants-Jeb-to-be-president/2005/06/01/1117568237274.html > > "The US President's father, George Bush, would like to see another > Bush in the White House, saying he wants his son Jeb to run for president > when the timing is right. Works for me. Then eight years for that good-looking Hispanic nephew. We may have to have another Bush or two thereafter, but ultimately we'll get the monarchy. > > Mrs Bush said she believed former first lady Senator Hillary Clinton > would be the Democratic nominee in the 2008 presidential race. > > "I'm not going to vote for her, but I'm betting on her," she said." Possibly. She's got a re-election to get through. The re-election should be a breeze, but there's always the chance that the 800-pound gorilla could damage her chances (Guillani). Assume she'll win re-election. Then Hillary MUST have a virtually uncontested primary. Next, she has to overcome the problem that senators almost never get elected president. The last senator to win the presidency was almost 50 years ago. And there's those tricky Republicans! They may sucker Iran or North Korea into doing something silly. The Republicans may keep the economy growing at 3.4 - 4.0%, contrasted with Europe's -0.1 - 0.5%. Heck, they may even announce they've got BinLaden in a cooler. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Jun 1 22:03:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Jun 1 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear.... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" | I originally thought she wouldn't do time. But then I didn't think she'd | bungle this so badly. If she keeps it up, she may get life. I though that was what she was looking for ... a life. From nstehle at wi.rr.com Wed Jun 1 21:29:47 2005 From: nstehle at wi.rr.com (Nathan Stehle) Date: Wed Jun 1 21:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So what about Deep Throat? References: Message-ID: in article d7l787$uod$1@news.spamcop.net, Spamvireslayer at nobody@spamcop.net wrote on 6/1/05 3:53 PM: > Anyone else feel suspicious that the family pushed him to reveal himself > because they > wanted to cash in while they could? My skeptic meter is whining loudly..... > > Why would Woodward and Bernstein confirm it? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:14:33 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:d7dqeb$rvi$2 @news.spamcop.net: > > Hopefully not Phoenix...one of the dirtiest cities in America with a > shockingly fast-rising crime rate. > No.. I'm done with urbanization. I'm definitely aiming towards a more "country/desert" area. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:17:38 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7i9tc$9eb$1@news.spamcop.net: > > That would be high on my list if I could somehow find a job > there.....lots of champ-quality golf courses and amazingly cheap > housing......but it's so friggin' hot in the summer I don't think I > could take it! > And the snow is any better? Give me the blazing heat with lots o' airconditioning. Stow that snowshovel permanently. :-) The job prospects is more curious.. I would like to think that high-tech companies consider opening shop there, then it would be far more attractive. IMO. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:18:10 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d7ldeh$2ph$1@news.spamcop.net: > > You get used to heat, especially dry heat like in AZ. You could retire > there! What's that, 10 years off? ;o) > That is the other thing too.. dry heat as opposed to humidity. Big difference. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:20:30 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:d7lf4q$47p$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7lcru$22n$1@news.spamcop.net... >> > Cleaning? Skunk? What a concept!! Nothing gets that stuff off. :-) >> > >> >> Tomato juice. > > Tomato juice is a hoax. Baking soda and peroxide, on the other hand, > DOES work, BTDT, at midnight. > > http://dan.drydog.com/patsyann/skunk.html > > > Also tried it already on cat I once had. (He got a little too curious of mysterious animal with a white stripe on its back.) He stunk for over 2 weeks. (But that glassy eyed look of getting shot in the face by that polecat was hysterical. :-D) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:22:10 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hi References: <429809AA.6030806@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in news:d7homr$vt6$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Gauntlets at the very least should be standard issue upon leaving the > hospital. Actually, you know how your own gassy expellations aren't > nearly as offensive as those of others -- well neither are those of > your off-spring. Funny. > Not to mention it could be collected and processed for energy. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Thu Jun 2 03:23:53 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Wed Jun 1 22:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Shopping at Safeway References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:d7lftm$50q$1 @news.spamcop.net: > http://funnypictures.dk/funny-picture-530.htm > Amstel Light!?!?! They must be "daft". :-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 09:49:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 08:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7ht9a$2k9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I already drink about 1/2 gallon per day! > > > > And damn, did I do something stupid yesterday -- played golf with a > > bunch of friends, we went out to dinner afterwards, and I drank two > > beers......stupid, stupid, stupid.....I forgot I can't drink beer > > anymore, not even Michelob.......woke up this morning (struggled to > > wake up, actually) and my muscles are aching like crazy. Dumb Indi! > > Stick to Bud and you'll be right as rain LOL No, that's one of the real bad ones! I can go without beer for a month, I think the two I had Monday were the first ones I drank in over 3 months. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 09:51:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 08:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Hi References: <429809AA.6030806@spamcop.net> Message-ID: "Neil" wrote in message news:d7homr$vt6$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Gauntlets at the very least should be standard issue upon leaving the > hospital. Actually, you know how your own gassy expellations aren't nearly > as offensive as those of others -- well neither are those of your > off-spring. Funny. And my answer to that is "you better like it, if you don't change it, who will?" From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 09:54:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 08:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9668C48E71D3Ctinlc@216.154.195.61... > > That is the other thing too.. dry heat as opposed to humidity. Big > difference. Yeah, it's dry alright, wait till you see what it does for your skin...... you'll be one big dry-roasted Mr. Peanut...... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 09:59:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 09:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7i9ka$96t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > $3K a month is out of my price range, or stating it a different > way I'm not > > willing to pay that much a month, there wouldn't be much leftover > > for discretionary spending. How long do you have to buy a new house > > to avoid taxes? > > Not very long, I think maybe the same tax year. And aren't they > thinking of removing that perk? Good God, I hope not! The economy will screech to a grinding halt in a millisecond! > > > Uhm....lessee....bought 3 in the space of about 4 1/2 years, but > > the one I have now is a keeper. For now ;-) > > So you're gonna run it into the ground? Probably keep it until it gets 100k miles on it or the loan is payed off, whichever comes first. Of course, all bets are off if Acura comes out with a new super-duper 3.2TL ;-) I did take a look at the new RL, which finally has a real engine in it, but they only make it with 4WD now and that pushed the cost up around $45-50K, too rich for my blood. But boy is it a sweet car....... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 10:00:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 09:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > You get used to heat, especially dry heat like in AZ. Sorry, 115 F in the shade ain't me idea of a good place to live...... You could retire > there! What's that, 10 years off? ;o) Pllllbbttt! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 10:02:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 09:05:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > > And the snow is any better? Give me the blazing heat with lots o' > airconditioning. Stow that snowshovel permanently. :-) They got air conditioned golf carts yet? > > The job prospects is more curious.. I would like to think that > high-tech companies consider opening shop there, then it would be far > more attractive. IMO. When you talk Boeing or Lockheed into opening a big engineering shop there let me know, m'kay? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 10:05:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7l8i4$vht$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Nope, veddy English...... > > > > There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty > > Python, I ain't interested in any English exports....... > > *narrows eyes at Indi* Hey, you're still married, ain'tcha? I don't wanna cause any marital strife or anything! ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 10:32:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 09:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7mvqm$t4j$1@news.spamcop.net... > the cost up around $45-50K, too rich for my blood. But boy is it a sweet > car....... Speaking of sweet, I want this one...looks like a big shoe on wheels, very cute! http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,cid-38368_sctid-12001,00.html From skiwi at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 08:37:27 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Thu Jun 2 10:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Stonehenge's "character" threatened (?) Message-ID: http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/homepage.html From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 11:39:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 10:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7mvqm$t4j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > the cost up around $45-50K, too rich for my blood. But boy is it a > sweet > > car....... > > Speaking of sweet, I want this one...looks like a big shoe on wheels, > very cute! > http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,cid-38368_sctid-12001,00.html That *is* a very nice vehicle, but with the options I'd have to get (even simple ones) you're right back into the cost range of the RL....... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 12:02:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 11:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7n5n4$kc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > That *is* a very nice vehicle, but with the options I'd have to get (even > simple ones) you're right back into the cost range of the RL....... I'm waiting for that winning lottery ticket....... From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Jun 2 09:46:34 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Jun 2 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Stonehenge's "character" threatened (?) References: Message-ID: Skiwi wrote: > http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/homepage.html Oh, well. They can always go visit the kiwi stonehenge in Wairarapa. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:44:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Jun 2 12:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] was ebay mom, now liquor thread Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > Just as long as you're not in any of these states: > > > > Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, > > Michigan, Tennessee, or Utah. > > > > Didn't the Supreme Court recently rule that the restrictions on > shipping wine across state lines were unconstitutional. It's not a > stretch to think the ones on liquor would go next. Somewhat different than that -- you can either allow shipments in *and* out, or you can't allow any shipments. Some states were trying to allow exports but deny all imports. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 12:58:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Fly the Friendly(?) Skies Message-ID: http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:08:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] hey Indi Message-ID: did you see the race this past weekend? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:09:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Yeah I want a smaller, more stable bike for the test. As much as I may > practice, I don't feel comfortable taking the skills test on my > bike...it's too top heavy. Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, it not really a case of them being "top heavy". Go take the MSF course and learn how to counter-steer. :-) > My mechanic didn't know of any places > off-hand. I'll have to make some phone calls tomorrow. You'll probably find that you can't rent one without having the full operator's license - it's a Catch-22 I know, but liability for the owner is also a huge concern. I assume you've Googled "motorcycle rentals los angeles" already? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:11:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, it not really a > case of them being "top heavy". Bah... what happened to the "erase" function?... :-) Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, *it's* not really a case of them being "top heavy". -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Jun 2 13:12:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Yeah I want a smaller, more stable bike for the test. As much as I >> may practice, I don't feel comfortable taking the skills test on my >> bike...it's too top heavy. > > > Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, it not really a > case of them being "top heavy". Go take the MSF course and learn how to > counter-steer. :-) Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ > >> My mechanic didn't know of any places off-hand. I'll have to make >> some phone calls tomorrow. > > > You'll probably find that you can't rent one without having the full > operator's license - it's a Catch-22 I know, but liability for the owner > is also a huge concern. > > I assume you've Googled "motorcycle rentals los angeles" already? > Yeah...the only ones I found were Harley rentals. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:12:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:15:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7lekk$3p9$1@news.spamcop.net... > > mmmm... pizzaaaaaaaaaa > > > > > > > mmmm....meat lovers with thin crust, extra sauce, easy cheese.... don't like Domino's or Pizza Hut myself my very favourite is a thin crust genuine Italian pizza from Trader Joe's (frozen). It's yummalicious and only 800 calories for the whole thing! I add my own mushroom and onion to it... divine. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:14:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:d7lffn$4jk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7ldrf$3bi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Damned expensive on there too! > > I think I pay $13.99 a bottle, that seems to be even half of what they > charge in the UK. it's about 12 pounds on line > http://www.zencudo.co.uk/shopping/product_details/pimms_no_1_cup_s1048413.html Alcohol in the UK is taxed up the yin yang. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:14:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:d7lga0$561$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > ain't interested in any English exports....... > > > > *narrows eyes at Indi* > > Damn straight....!! No English exports my arse....What an > ignoranus......... :D LOL@ignoranus From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:16:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-0A9255.19544901062005@news.cesmail.net... > I hadn't checked the prices. They're more expensive that the > Pennsylvania state stores. _Nobody_ charges more for alcohol than the > state.stores > > And they want $12 shipping and handling for _one_ bottle. > > I'm deleting the bookmark. LOL. Why won't your helper get you some booze every now and then? What a f*ckwit. Don't you have any friends? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:17:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ Bah. (What, is it sheep-brigade day here on .social?... ;-)) Is your life (and/or other body parts) really worth less than 200 bucks? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:19:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: "HeyBub" wrote in message news:d7ljc3$70l$1@news.spamcop.net... > And there's those tricky Republicans! They may sucker Iran or North Korea > into doing something silly. The Republicans may keep the economy growing at > 3.4 - 4.0%, contrasted with Europe's -0.1 - 0.5%. Heck, they may even > announce they've got BinLaden in a cooler. all they need to do is bring out the sexism card... I think there are still way too many MCPs in this country for a woman to be elected Prez (ie most if not all Republicans and a fair few Dems too (those Hispanics think a woman's place is in the home for instance)) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:21:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9668C4772AFADtinlc@216.154.195.61... > And the snow is any better? Give me the blazing heat with lots o' > airconditioning. Stow that snowshovel permanently. :-) They do get snow in a few areas of AZ ya know. > > The job prospects is more curious.. I would like to think that high-tech > companies consider opening shop there, then it would be far more > attractive. IMO. And much more expensive to live there! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:21:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9668C4F38E0D5tinlc@216.154.195.61... > Also tried it already on cat I once had. (He got a little too curious of > mysterious animal with a white stripe on its back.) He stunk for over 2 > weeks. (But that glassy eyed look of getting shot in the face by that > polecat was hysterical. :-D) LOL, did you dunk him in a bath of tomato juice? I bet that was a more traumatic experience than the spraying! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:23:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7mv95$sqc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Stick to Bud and you'll be right as rain LOL > > No, that's one of the real bad ones! I can go without beer for a month, I > think the two I had Monday were the first ones I drank in over 3 months. Really? I thought that considering its poor resemblance to actual beer it'd go down easy LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:25:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7mvqm$t4j$1@news.spamcop.net... > Good God, I hope not! The economy will screech to a grinding halt in a > millisecond! That's true... and it needs all the help it can get so perhaps either I'm mistaken or they'll change their minds (only reason I query it is that bro in law recently sold a house in Brooklyn and bought one in the Hamptons and he mentioned then that he had to do it quickly because he'd heard they were doing away with the tax thing) > Probably keep it until it gets 100k miles on it or the loan is payed off, > whichever comes first. Of course, all bets are off if Acura comes out with a > new super-duper 3.2TL ;-) I did take a look at the new RL, which finally > has a real engine in it, but they only make it with 4WD now and that pushed > the cost up around $45-50K, too rich for my blood. But boy is it a sweet > car....... Do you do a lot of miles annually? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:26:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:30:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7n015$tcc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Redstone wrote: > > > > And the snow is any better? Give me the blazing heat with lots o' > > airconditioning. Stow that snowshovel permanently. :-) > > They got air conditioned golf carts yet? I wouldn't be surprised in the least LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:27:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7n07a$tft$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:d7l8i4$vht$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Nope, veddy English...... > > > > > > There ya go.....no wonder I never heard of it. If it ain't Monty > > > Python, I ain't interested in any English exports....... > > > > *narrows eyes at Indi* > > Hey, you're still married, ain'tcha? I don't wanna cause any marital strife > or anything! ;-) LOL... well I guess your interpretation of 'interested' differed from mine. To me it sounded like 'anything English doesn't hold any interest for me whatsoever' From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:29:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7n1qd$ufr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message news:d7mvqm$t4j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > the cost up around $45-50K, too rich for my blood. But boy is it a sweet > > car....... > > Speaking of sweet, I want this one...looks like a big shoe on wheels, very cute! > http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,cid-38368_sctid-12001,00.html hum... no picture came up for me on that... but why would you *want* a car that looked like a shoe?! speaking of which, there's a car that is precisely that around here, it belongs to a shoe repair place LOL From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Jun 2 13:31:27 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ > > > Bah. (What, is it sheep-brigade day here on .social?... ;-)) > > Is your life (and/or other body parts) really worth less than 200 bucks? > Well it's not a question of IF I take the safety course, it's a question of WHEN. I'd really rather not have to pay the 200 bucks now...but a few months from now will be no problem. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 13:38:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7nlml$9li$1@news.spamcop.net... > Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ do you think that renting a smaller bike is a better investment than taking a course that will set you up to be a better motorcyclist? not to mention safer on the road to yourself and others? $200 isn't that much, it could save your life and it would certainly be worth it to enable you to ride wherever you want From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 16:41:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7nlml$9li$1@news.spamcop.net... | GregR wrote: | > Borgholio wrote: | > | >> Yeah I want a smaller, more stable bike for the test. As much as I | >> may practice, I don't feel comfortable taking the skills test on my | >> bike...it's too top heavy. | > | > | > Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, it not really a | > case of them being "top heavy". Go take the MSF course and learn how to | > counter-steer. :-) | | Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ | | > | >> My mechanic didn't know of any places off-hand. I'll have to make | >> some phone calls tomorrow. | > | > | > You'll probably find that you can't rent one without having the full | > operator's license - it's a Catch-22 I know, but liability for the owner | > is also a huge concern. | > | > I assume you've Googled "motorcycle rentals los angeles" already? | > | | | Yeah...the only ones I found were Harley rentals. Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and transfer to your state? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Jun 2 13:45:37 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7nlml$9li$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ > > do you think that renting a smaller bike is a better investment than taking > a course that will set you up to be a better motorcyclist? not to mention > safer on the road to yourself and others? $200 isn't that much, it could > save your life and it would certainly be worth it to enable you to ride > wherever you want > > > See my reply to Greg. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Jun 2 13:45:57 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Jun 2 15:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7nlml$9li$1@news.spamcop.net... > | GregR wrote: > | > Borgholio wrote: > | > > | >> Yeah I want a smaller, more stable bike for the test. As much as I > | >> may practice, I don't feel comfortable taking the skills test on my > | >> bike...it's too top heavy. > | > > | > > | > Hint: Most bikes are relatively unstable at slow speeds, it not really a > | > case of them being "top heavy". Go take the MSF course and learn how to > | > counter-steer. :-) > | > | Bah. That's 200 bucks I really could use elsewhere. :-/ > | > | > > | >> My mechanic didn't know of any places off-hand. I'll have to make > | >> some phone calls tomorrow. > | > > | > > | > You'll probably find that you can't rent one without having the full > | > operator's license - it's a Catch-22 I know, but liability for the owner > | > is also a huge concern. > | > > | > I assume you've Googled "motorcycle rentals los angeles" already? > | > > | > | > | Yeah...the only ones I found were Harley rentals. > > Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and transfer to > your state? > > You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:19:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7nmmf$alc$1@news.spamcop.net... > > hum... no picture came up for me on that... but why would you *want* a car > that looked like a shoe?! speaking of which, there's a car that is precisely > that around here, it belongs to a shoe repair place LOL Must be your browser, Google for Infinity FX 45, it's really cute....... and not too shabbily made, either. They have some options for the inside that are amazing, like a camera that shows what's behind you and displays it on a screen in the cockpit so you can see backing up. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:21:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7nmis$akp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > LOL... well I guess your interpretation of 'interested' differed from mine. > To me it sounded like 'anything English doesn't hold any interest for me > whatsoever' Clearly he's never had REAL Cadbury (oh, and those little stick things with dark chocolate? Divine...) ;) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:21:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7nlre$a0b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > LOL@ignoranus Translation "dumbass"....har har har From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:30:18 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" < | > | > Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and transfer to | > your state? | > | > | | You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. How much effort to investigate? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 17:36:59 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > I hadn't checked the prices. They're more expensive that the > > Pennsylvania state stores. _Nobody_ charges more for alcohol than the > > state.stores > > > > And they want $12 shipping and handling for _one_ bottle. > > > > I'm deleting the bookmark. > > LOL. Why won't your helper get you some booze every now and then? What a > f*ckwit. She thinks I shouldn't be drinking. > Don't you have any friends? My brother is afraid his car will be stolen if he visits me. A couple of friends are afraid to drive in the city. Other friends are deeply religious and I wouldn't ask them to go against their beliefs. And if I were to give one of the neighbors $20 to buy a bottle of Jack I'd never see him or the $20 again. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 17:44:54 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > Just as long as you're not in any of these states: > > > > Alabama, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, > > Tennessee, or Utah. > > Didn't the Supreme Court recently rule that the restrictions on > shipping wine across state lines were unconstitutional. It's not a > stretch to think the ones on liquor would go next. Actually, it ruled that states couldn't discriminate between in-state and out-of-state wineries in allowing shipments to residents. Some states had banned out-of-state wineries from shipping to their residents while allowing in-state wineries to do so. The court ruled that a violation of the commerce clause. The 21st Amendment, which repealed Prohibition, also provided that "The transportation or importation into any state, territory, or possession of the United States for delivery or use therein of intoxicating liquors, in violation of the laws thereof, is hereby prohibited." In light of the court's decision, it seems that states could either allow shipping or ban it, but cannot pick and choose who could ship and who couldn't. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 17:46:32 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 16:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > Alcohol in the UK is taxed up the yin yang. Same in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvanians buying alcohol have to pay an 18-percent "emergency" tax to pay for the Johnstown flood of 1935, in addition to other taxes. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Jun 2 15:06:21 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Jun 2 17:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" < > | > > | > Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and transfer > to > | > your state? > | > > | > > | > | You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. > > How much effort to investigate? > > I really don't see the point (or even if it's possible). To take the skills test in another state, I'd need to ride my bike there...which can't be done. Also, I'd still need to take the obstacle course, which is the whole problem. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 16:59:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7npkp$ci0$1@news.spamcop.net... > Must be your browser, Google for Infinity FX 45, it's really cute....... and not too > shabbily made, either. They have some options for the inside that are amazing, like > a camera that shows what's behind you and displays it on a screen in the cockpit so > you can see backing up. I tried that link with IE too, same thing. But I guessed which one you were referring to then went to the gallery and saw the pics there. It's alright... it's an SUV after all LOL. You're right though, it does kinda resemble a shoe LOL Shame a driver around here didn't have the camera in the back of their SUV a few days ago - a kid might be alive today if they had. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:00:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7npoh$cnf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7nmis$akp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > LOL... well I guess your interpretation of 'interested' differed from mine. > > To me it sounded like 'anything English doesn't hold any interest for me > > whatsoever' > > Clearly he's never had REAL Cadbury (oh, and those little stick things with dark > chocolate? Divine...) ;) Little stick things? Matchmakers? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:00:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7npp9$cnh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7nlre$a0b$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > LOL@ignoranus > > Translation "dumbass"....har har har LOL, good one From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:04:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-440FAD.16463202062005@news.cesmail.net... > Same in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvanians buying alcohol have to pay an > 18-percent "emergency" tax to pay for the Johnstown flood of 1935, in > addition to other taxes. ROFL... why on EARTH hasn't someone worked to overturn that one?! You'd think the booze vendors and manufacturers would be working on it. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 17:06:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] DF's booze problem (was Crazy Ebay Mom) Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-127862.16365802062005@news.cesmail.net... > She thinks I shouldn't be drinking. Is that any of her business? What would your doctor say about it? > > Don't you have any friends? > > My brother is afraid his car will be stolen if he visits me. A couple of > friends are afraid to drive in the city. Other friends are deeply > religious and I wouldn't ask them to go against their beliefs. And if I > were to give one of the neighbors $20 to buy a bottle of Jack I'd never > see him or the $20 again. Is car crime *really* that bad? Tell him to visit on foot or get a cab instead then! what a poor excuse not to see your own brother, sheesh. Ditto your friends. From heybub at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:13:38 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gawd Help Us All! - [media] "Bush wants Jeb to be president" References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "HeyBub" wrote in message > news:d7ljc3$70l$1@news.spamcop.net... >> And there's those tricky Republicans! They may sucker Iran or North >> Korea into doing something silly. The Republicans may keep the >> economy growing at >> 3.4 - 4.0%, contrasted with Europe's -0.1 - 0.5%. Heck, they may even >> announce they've got BinLaden in a cooler. > > all they need to do is bring out the sexism card... I think there are > still way too many MCPs in this country for a woman to be elected > Prez (ie most if not all Republicans and a fair few Dems too (those > Hispanics think a woman's place is in the home for instance)) Yeah, I remember when Bush 41 said, after debating Geraldine Ferraro, "We kicked ass!" Shame! Shame! Saying such things about a lady! From heybub at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:18:26 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: VETs honor Fonda References: <429b89b4$1_2@x-privat.org> Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:d7lcvn$2bl$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Never saw a picture of LBJ on an AA gun ... espcially not one in N >> NAM. >> > She has admitted her foolishness when she was younger as the biggest > lapse of judgment a person could ever have, and she has apologized > profusely for it. I don't recall any such apology coming from the > goverment, do you? Don't you think it's a bit ridiculous to continue > to hold a grudge against someone who was responsible for doing > something stupid when she was young, rather than the people who WERE > actually responsible for killing our boys in the first place? I'm > pretty damn sick of her being made the only villain in the whole war, > especially since most of the rumors about what she did and where she > did it have turned out to be hoaxes. But the U.S. government HAS apologized: For slavery, for interment of Japanese, for treating Indians shabbily, and, for all I know, Twinkies. Liberals LIKE to apologize. Apparently the thought of someone harboring ill-will gives them the creepies. Conservatives generally don't give a fig whether they're liked. What's right is right and not subject to a vote. From heybub at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:30:49 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > HeyBub wrote: >> >> The IDF (Israeli Defense Force) takes virtually everyone who reaches >> 18 (men serve three years, women 21 months). They come from over 80 >> countries and maybe twice that many languages. The IDF teaches them >> Hebrew (the IDF runs the largest educational program in Israel - >> outside of the public schools), gives them a common experience, and >> provides an upward mobility path. This latter is important because >> advancement in the IDF is STRICTLY based on valor and merit. >> >> As for security risks, ****the IDF takes only Jews**** and a handful >> of Druze. Israeli Arabs, with few exceptions, do not serve. >> > > And the equivalent prerequisite for joining the US military would be? > You don't think much before you type, do ya? (that's a rhetorical > question, BTW) I was responding to an issue - security risk - raised by the original poster. Miss Betsy observed: "Then there is also the question of security risk, i.e., the illegal might be from someplace in the Middle East." Other countries have a similar concern regarding security in their armed forces and have found ways of dealing with it. To discard the idea (immigrants in the military) simply because the idea rasies a security issue is not sufficient. As for what the equivalent preequisite for joining the U.S. Army might be, well, we could require the immigrant recruit to flush a Koran down the toilet. We could probably use the same book over and over to save money. I haven't thought about the actual requirement, just that the issue as a whole is solvable. From heybub at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 19:33:19 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Thu Jun 2 19:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Democrats Try to Reinstitute Draft References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > news:d7g05p$1fq$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Some might suggest we need a second Brutus ... > > Would that be Cheney then? has to be a trusted lieutenant... Colin > Powell shoulda done it while he still had the opportunity LOL Colin Powell is off for a new job: Owner of a baseball team. The Rupert Mundies, I think. Interesting career path he's chosen. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 21:43:43 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 20:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Crazy Ebay Mom References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > Same in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvanians buying alcohol have to pay an > > 18-percent "emergency" tax to pay for the Johnstown flood of 1935, in > > addition to other taxes. > > ROFL... why on EARTH hasn't someone worked to overturn that one?! You'd > think the booze vendors and manufacturers would be working on it. In Pennsylvania, the state _is_ the booze vendor. You can only buy wine and liquor by the bottle at state-owned stores. People have been trying to get the state out of the booze business for years, but there are two obstacles: 1) the state needs the money the system generates, and 2) the state store workers have a very strong union. The state's liquor laws are bizarre. You can't buy beer or wine in supermarkets. You can buy beer at a beer distributor, but only by the case. If you want a six-pack or two, you can buy them at a bar, but at much higher prices. Oh, if you're thinking of mixing and matching six-packs to make up a case, that's illegal. State troopers patrol the parking lots of liquor stores near the state border, If they see a car with Pennsylvania plates leave the lot and cross the border, they stop the car, arrest the people in it, and confiscate the car -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 21:50:52 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 20:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: DF's booze problem (was Crazy Ebay Mom) References: Message-ID: In article , "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > She thinks I shouldn't be drinking. > > Is that any of her business? No, of course it isn't. > What would your doctor say about it? He says that drinking on special occasions is OK, as long as I don't overdo it. > > > Don't you have any friends? > > > > My brother is afraid his car will be stolen if he visits me. A couple of > > friends are afraid to drive in the city. Other friends are deeply > > religious and I wouldn't ask them to go against their beliefs. And if I > > were to give one of the neighbors $20 to buy a bottle of Jack I'd never > > see him or the $20 again. > > Is car crime *really* that bad? Tell him to visit on foot or get a cab > instead then! what a poor excuse not to see your own brother, sheesh. No, auto theft is not that much of a problem. My brother is just freaked out that I live in a mostly black neighborhood. Like a lot of whites in Philly, he thinks that black neighborhood = high-crime area. > Ditto your friends. Well, I've seen my friends drive. They wouldn't be able to deal with the traffic or the small streets. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 22:38:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Jun 2 21:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Liquor stores (was sumpin else) Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-F5B600.20434302062005@news.cesmail.net... > > The state's liquor laws are bizarre. You can't buy beer or wine in > supermarkets. You can buy beer at a beer distributor, but only by the > case. If you want a six-pack or two, you can buy them at a bar, but at > much higher prices. Thank heaven that changed here several years ago, beer, wine and some fortified spirits like sherry are now sold in grocery stores, the hard stuff is still only sold in the state run liquor stores, but the prices are way better than neighboring states. The ever-opportunistic state of NH decided to build two new liquor stores, on the NH/MA border (already had one ME/NH), on either side of 95, so whether you're going north or south, you can pull in and fill up the trunk with cheap booze. In the summer they must pull in a fortune. > State troopers patrol the parking lots of liquor stores near the state > border, If they see a car with Pennsylvania plates leave the lot and > cross the border, they stop the car, arrest the people in it, and > confiscate the car Why are they doing that, are you not supposed to buy liquor from other states? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Jun 2 23:00:48 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Jun 2 22:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7nsbe$e4h$1@news.spamcop.net... | Frog Prince wrote: | > "Borgholio" < | > | > | > | > Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and transfer | > to | > | > your state? | > | > | > | > | > | | > | You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. | > | > How much effort to investigate? | > | > | | I really don't see the point (or even if it's possible). To take the skills | test in another state, I'd need to ride my bike there...which can't be done. | Also, I'd still need to take the obstacle course, which is the whole problem. Do all states now require a skills test for a MC license? FWIW my MC ticket was grandfathered ... never so much as a written test much less a driver/skills test. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Thu Jun 2 23:32:33 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Thu Jun 2 22:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > > State troopers patrol the parking lots of liquor stores near the state > > border, If they see a car with Pennsylvania plates leave the lot and > > cross the border, they stop the car, arrest the people in it, and > > confiscate the car > > Why are they doing that, are you not supposed to buy liquor from other > states? It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a permit from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to liquor wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the latter). If a private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy it from the state stores. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 00:06:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Jun 2 23:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-61AA00.22323302062005@news.cesmail.net... > It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a permit > from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to liquor > wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the latter). If a > private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy it from the state > stores. Sheesh, no one sees their freedom being restricted here? From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 00:47:24 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Jun 2 23:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Oh to be a kid again ... Message-ID: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/upsidedown.html From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 00:49:25 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Jun 2 23:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] For Charles -- a cautionary tail. Message-ID: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/donttouchmycar.html From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 04:55:03 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:d7mvie$t2g$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Yeah, it's dry alright, wait till you see what it does for your > skin...... you'll be one big dry-roasted Mr. Peanut...... > You've seen a picture of me.. did I look dry-roasted to you? :-) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 00:56:17 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Ulitmate streamer --- Message-ID: http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 00:58:45 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Bull riding -- Western or English saddle? Message-ID: http://www.big-boys.com/pictures/picture1116.html From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:19:56 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7n015$tcc$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > They got air conditioned golf carts yet? > Could I interest you to change your hobby to say, uhmmm... bowling? :-) > > When you talk Boeing or Lockheed into opening a big engineering shop > there let me know, m'kay? > S'ointenly. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:21:42 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d7nm70$ad0$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > They do get snow in a few areas of AZ ya know. >> Ya.. but only in small pockets. Unlike the northeast that get carpetbombed each year. :-p > > And much more expensive to live there! > > Which eventually happens to every place where there are homes. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:28:32 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7i8r8$8nn$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > Charles wrote: >> No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! >> >> > Dude, my car cost a lot less than $40K. >> >> Dude, where is it? > > Outside? > > And I always thought that you drove one of these bad mamas. http://tinyurl.com/9prrw :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:30:32 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Squeal Like a Pig References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d7nm8j$af7$1@news.spamcop.net: > > LOL, did you dunk him in a bath of tomato juice? I bet that was a more > traumatic experience than the spraying! > > Tried it. I had a feeling it wasn't going to work. He never knew what was going on.. getting sprayed in the face knocked his senses for a loop so he was quite oblivious to the world. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:41:13 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:d7ohin$qf8$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-61AA00.22323302062005@news.cesmail.net... >> It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a >> permit from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to >> liquor wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the >> latter). If a private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy >> it from the state stores. > > Sheesh, no one sees their freedom being restricted here? > > Well, the laws restricting interstate trading of wine was recently lifted. Wonder if this is a throwback from the old "prohibition" days. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Jun 3 05:43:33 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Fri Jun 3 00:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Fly the Friendly(?) Skies References: Message-ID: GregR wrote in news:d7nkso$946$1@news.spamcop.net: > http://www.barry.fireflyinternet.co.uk/fun/files/pilot.htm > As long as they aren't Northwest pilots. :-) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Jun 2 23:43:35 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Jun 3 01:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ulitmate streamer --- References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html ...and THAT is why they give you two parachutes. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 10:04:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 09:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7o30n$i14$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Shame a driver around here didn't have the camera in the back of their SUV a > few days ago - a kid might be alive today if they had. > what happened, did someone run over their own kid? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 10:05:28 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 09:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9669D4C8AF9CEtinlc@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:d7mvie$t2g$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > Yeah, it's dry alright, wait till you see what it does for your > > skin...... you'll be one big dry-roasted Mr. Peanut...... > > > > You've seen a picture of me.. did I look dry-roasted to you? :-) No, but your wedding attire threatened to look like a very flash Mr. Peanut... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:32:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] was ebay mom Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > > State troopers patrol the parking lots of liquor stores near the state > border, If they see a car with Pennsylvania plates leave the lot and > cross the border, they stop the car, arrest the people in it, and > confiscate the car When I was a young pup and living in PA about 1/2 hour from the MD state line there was a huge liquor store on Rt 1 right across the border -- the law back then was bringing back a case of beer or more was illegal, so we'd always drink one beer in parking lot before leaving. It wasn't illegal to bring in 23 cans of beer! ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:34:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey Indi References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > did you see the race this past weekend? What a dumb question -- of course I did! Poor Kimi, your heart just had to break when his front suspension exploded with one lap to go...... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:37:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I really don't see the point (or even if it's possible). To take the > skills test in another state, I'd need to ride my bike there...which > can't be done. Also, I'd still need to take the obstacle course, > which is the whole problem. Well, if'n you can't pass the obstacle course test, IMHO you shouldn't be riding your bike in the first place, you're too dangerous to yourself and others! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:39:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Do you do a lot of miles annually? Normally 18-20 K miles per year, so 5 year loan = 100k miles = time for a new car. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:41:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > > Airbus is there, no? Why the hell would a conglomerate European aircraft manufacturer have a plant in Arizona? There's a lot of aerospace in the region. It > has the second biggest customer base for (ex-boss). Heck, I could > probably get you contacts, if you were really interested. Only I > think that you're just playin'... Correctamundo..... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:42:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend more > money overall because it is so easy to do. No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm a guy, not a chick, for chrissakes! From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:38:00 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ulitmate streamer --- References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | > http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html | | ...and THAT is why they give you two parachutes. :) Two parachutes ... is that in place of some common sense? From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:42:55 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | | > Do all states now require a skills test for a MC license? FWIW my MC ticket | > was grandfathered ... never so much as a written test much less a | > driver/skills test. | | My wife was grandfathered in in WV, but when we moved to VA, they did | not add the endorsement to her license. I used to legally ride in PA, | but never was told that the law was changing, so I didn't get | grandfathered when the law changed. So now we've inherited a couple of | Harleys and can't go get them until we take the class or the skills | test. The classes fill up on the day registration opens, so we have to | wait another year. We can't take the skills test because you have to use | someone else's bike which is registered in VA. We don't know any riders | in VA. I'm inn NC. (I40 ~ exit 112) Where in VA to where in WV? (FWIW I also have a 7000# rated tandem trailer). From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:48:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > > And I always thought that you drove one of these bad mamas. > > http://tinyurl.com/9prrw > I got a rental Mustang a few years back, I barely fit in it -- a very cramped interior for a 6'2" guy. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:51:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Redstone wrote: > > > And I always thought that you drove one of these bad mamas. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/9prrw > > Is it just me, or don't huge spoilers like that look totally stupid > on a car? (Especially when you know the physics involved mean that > they are purely decoration at speed less than roughly 150 mph) That's not true at all. A proper spoiler (front or back) becomes effective above 50 mph or so. But most street car spoilers are there for looks, not performance.....excluding front air dams....they work wonderfully well (I know from personal experience). From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:54:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 10:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > mmmm....meat lovers with thin crust, extra sauce, easy cheese.... > > don't like Domino's or Pizza Hut myself > Really? Of all the pizza chains, I like Pizza Hut far better than any others, and I think the worst is Papa Johns. Those morons put the pepperoni _under_ the cheese! How the heck is it supposed to get yummily crispy underneath cheese?! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:56:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 11:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7nmis$akp$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > LOL... well I guess your interpretation of 'interested' differed > > from mine. To me it sounded like 'anything English doesn't hold any > > interest for me whatsoever' > > Clearly he's never had REAL Cadbury (oh, and those little stick > things with dark chocolate? Divine...) ;) Not a big chocolate lover, or any candy or sweets for that matter. I only nibble on frozen Hershey's Dark Chocolate on occasion. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:29:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 11:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Here's something we didn't know Message-ID: http://news.baou.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=20254 From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 10:29:54 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7nsbe$e4h$1@news.spamcop.net... > | Frog Prince wrote: > | > "Borgholio" < > | > | > > | > | > Curious is there any option to get your MC ticket elsewhere and > transfer > | > to > | > | > your state? > | > | > > | > | > > | > | > | > | You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. > | > > | > How much effort to investigate? > | > > | > > | > | I really don't see the point (or even if it's possible). To take the > skills > | test in another state, I'd need to ride my bike there...which can't be > done. > | Also, I'd still need to take the obstacle course, which is the whole > problem. > > Do all states now require a skills test for a MC license? FWIW my MC ticket > was grandfathered ... never so much as a written test much less a > driver/skills test. > > I'm not sure about all states...but I can't get a CA license with an out of state test. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 10:34:25 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ulitmate streamer --- In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > >>http://www.big-boys.com/articles/parafire.html > > > ...and THAT is why they give you two parachutes. :) > You can hear him whooping after he hits the reserve. I think he had fun. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 10:35:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>I really don't see the point (or even if it's possible). To take the >>skills test in another state, I'd need to ride my bike there...which >> can't be done. Also, I'd still need to take the obstacle course, >>which is the whole problem. > > > Well, if'n you can't pass the obstacle course test, IMHO you shouldn't be > riding your bike in the first place, you're too dangerous to yourself and > others! > > Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course test, then tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:49:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 12:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > Those morons put the pepperoni > > _under_ the cheese! How the heck is it supposed to get yummily > > crispy underneath cheese?! > > I used to work at a Pizza hut, it was policy to put all the > toppings under the cheese except on the pepperoni lover's. They don't do that anymore. On a rare occasion I'll splurge and get the meat lover's pizza from Pizza Hut and most of the toppings are on top of the cheese, thus the problem of carefully eating each slice so as not to have the sausage and bacon pieces fall off the slice and into your lap. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 10:55:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Well it's not a question of IF I take the safety course, it's a question > of WHEN. I'd really rather not have to pay the 200 bucks now...but a > few months from now will be no problem. So you don't plan on using any of the knowledge that you'd get from the MSF course for the next few months? Hope you've got that organ donor card filled out... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 10:57:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. You'd also have to establish and prove residency in another state, which I'm sure would cost you a whole lot more than $200. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 10:59:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > The classes fill up on the day registration opens, so we have to > wait another year. They only offer the classes once/year? Is this MSF we're talking about, or something else? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:00:24 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:00:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> You mean take the DMV test elsewhere? I doubt it. > > > You'd also have to establish and prove residency in another state, which > I'm sure would cost you a whole lot more than $200. :-) > Exactly. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:01:33 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Well it's not a question of IF I take the safety course, it's a >> question of WHEN. I'd really rather not have to pay the 200 bucks >> now...but a few months from now will be no problem. > > > So you don't plan on using any of the knowledge that you'd get from the > MSF course for the next few months? Hope you've got that organ donor > card filled out... ;-) > Filling out the card is cheaper than paying for the course. :-P From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:02:31 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Going flying today! Message-ID: Taking my first flight lesson today. Going up in a small Cessna and flying over the Santa Clarita mountains. I can't wait. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:04:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course test, then > tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. I'd be the first to agree that the CA DMV test isn't exactly "realistic" for riding in the real world, but it is a good measure of your slow-speed skills and it *can* be done with a little practice. How big is your bike again? I borrowed a friends Suzuki 650 Temptor for mine (since I didn't have a bike of my own at the time), and breezed right through it (after practicing a bit on the DMV course the weekend before). -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:07:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Taking my first flight lesson today. Going up in a small Cessna and > flying over the Santa Clarita mountains. I can't wait. :) You freaking DOG!! :-) Which airport are you flying out of? I've had my commercial/instrument/ground instructor ticket for years, and told myself that I was going to get back current this year. You may have just pushed me off my inertia with that post. And at least the marine layer isn't there today - I rode the bike in to work most of last week, and the first of this week until the fog/drizzle decided to pay us a visit. I think today will be another riding day. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:08:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Filling out the card is cheaper than paying for the course. :-P Well, OK as long as we're clear on that one... Can I have your kidneys when you're done with them? Not that I need them, but maybe I can make a few bucks auctioning them off on E-Bay. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:15:36 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Taking my first flight lesson today. Going up in a small Cessna and >> flying over the Santa Clarita mountains. I can't wait. :) > > > You freaking DOG!! :-) Woof. :) > > Which airport are you flying out of? Whiteman. >I've had my > commercial/instrument/ground instructor ticket for years, and told > myself that I was going to get back current this year. You may have just > pushed me off my inertia with that post. Glad to be of service. :) > > And at least the marine layer isn't there today - I rode the bike in to > work most of last week, and the first of this week until the fog/drizzle > decided to pay us a visit. I think today will be another riding day. :-) > Yeah, thankfully the marine layer doesn't usually get as far in as Santa Clarita. Besides, I'm flying at 5pm so it should be gone by then. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:16:22 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course test, >> then tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. > > > I'd be the first to agree that the CA DMV test isn't exactly "realistic" > for riding in the real world, but it is a good measure of your > slow-speed skills and it *can* be done with a little practice. > > How big is your bike again? I borrowed a friends Suzuki 650 Temptor for > mine (since I didn't have a bike of my own at the time), and breezed > right through it (after practicing a bit on the DMV course the weekend > before). > It's a 500cc (490 pound) Honda Silverwing. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:16:44 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Filling out the card is cheaper than paying for the course. :-P > > > Well, OK as long as we're clear on that one... Can I have your kidneys > when you're done with them? Not that I need them, but maybe I can make a > few bucks auctioning them off on E-Bay. :-) > Wouldn't you rather have my spleen? :) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:22:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > It's a 500cc (490 pound) Honda Silverwing. Hmm... that shouldn't be *that* bad for doing the "obstacle course"... If you're interested, I could meet you at one of the DMV test courses some weekend and we could work on getting your counter-steering going. I think you'll find the circle and weaving (I assume they've still got those) part of the course a lot easier once you get that mastered. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:30:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: >> You freaking DOG!! :-) > > Woof. :) Arf! :-) > Whiteman. Cool, not the best neighborhood in the world, but you'll probably be OK - just make sure you park in the de-militarized zone. :-) It's actually a nice little airport, with a *lot* less traffic than Van Nuys has. One of my cow-orkers (? spamcop.social) flies out of Whiteman, when I see him this evening I'll ask him which FBO (fixed base operator) he uses. > Glad to be of service. :) You never know what you're going to find on .social... ;-) > Yeah, thankfully the marine layer doesn't usually get as far in as Santa > Clarita. Besides, I'm flying at 5pm so it should be gone by then. True, but I don't think Burbank (and surrounding environs) even cleared to partly cloudy yesterday. I didn't get a ceiling report, but I'm out here in a part of Ventura County that Valley pilots use for their practice area, and all of the light planes overhead yesterday were in the clouds. Free hint: If they don't furnish headsets (and I think most of the FBOs do these days, or at least offer them for rental) take along a good set of earplugs. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:31:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:35:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Wouldn't you rather have my spleen? :) How about a package deal? Kidneys + spleen + the Gensu Knife set? And, oh yeah, I want frequent-flyer miles with that too. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:38:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > It is a state run program: > > > It is a three day class offered for about 10 weeks at the local > community college. I think the limit is ten students per week. I think > something like 300 people try to register for the class each year, but > they only have equipment for 100. I could take a vacation one weekend > and take the it in a more rural part of the state, but that requires > more research and planing ahead than I have been able to do. I filled > out all the paperwork this year, so I can register online next year. Looks like MSF only offers their courses in Roanoke for Virgina (at least I assume that's where the 'Roanoke Valley is), though that 'Virginia Western Community College' makes me wonder if it's not on the other side of the state from you: http://tinyurl.com/76zvq -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 11:44:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/76zvq Check this link out (from the one I gave you in the earlier post), seems to be a page of links to several riding schools in VA: http://www.learn2ride.com/flash/index.html -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:47:49 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> It's a 500cc (490 pound) Honda Silverwing. > > > Hmm... that shouldn't be *that* bad for doing the "obstacle course"... > > If you're interested, I could meet you at one of the DMV test courses > some weekend and we could work on getting your counter-steering going. I > think you'll find the circle and weaving (I assume they've still got > those) part of the course a lot easier once you get that mastered. :-) > I usually do the one here in Glendale. They have both the circle and the weaving...the circle is pretty easy, but the weaving is REALLY shaky. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:49:46 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>> You freaking DOG!! :-) >> >> >> Woof. :) > > > Arf! :-) Mink! > >> Whiteman. > > > Cool, not the best neighborhood in the world, but you'll probably be OK > - just make sure you park in the de-militarized zone. :-) I'll be parking on the airport itself, outside the flight school. > > It's actually a nice little airport, with a *lot* less traffic than Van > Nuys has. One of my cow-orkers (? spamcop.social) flies out of Whiteman, > when I see him this evening I'll ask him which FBO (fixed base operator) > he uses. Yeah that's the idea. It's an introductory 30-min lesson...so I want that time in the air, rather than waiting to taxi to the runway. :) > >> Glad to be of service. :) > > > You never know what you're going to find on .social... ;-) Actually I do. :-P > >> Yeah, thankfully the marine layer doesn't usually get as far in as >> Santa Clarita. Besides, I'm flying at 5pm so it should be gone by then. > > > True, but I don't think Burbank (and surrounding environs) even cleared > to partly cloudy yesterday. I didn't get a ceiling report, but I'm out > here in a part of Ventura County that Valley pilots use for their > practice area, and all of the light planes overhead yesterday were in > the clouds. Yeah yesterday was dark...but it's already sunny here today. :) > > Free hint: If they don't furnish headsets (and I think most of the FBOs > do these days, or at least offer them for rental) take along a good set > of earplugs. > Everything is included for this one. Headsets, fuel, the works. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 11:50:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 13:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Wouldn't you rather have my spleen? :) > > > How about a package deal? Kidneys + spleen + the Gensu Knife set? > > And, oh yeah, I want frequent-flyer miles with that too. :-) > No Ginsu Knife set, but how about some 2 year old McDonald's BBQ sauce? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:01:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I usually do the one here in Glendale. They have both the circle and > the weaving...the circle is pretty easy, but the weaving is REALLY shaky. Ahh... that's a scenario custom made for counter-steering. :-) You may find that you have to "lead" your steering inputs a little bit (i.e. start turning in the opposite direction while you're still going the other way) to make it through, but whatever works. Let me know if you're interested in some tutoring, can't do it this weekend but with some notice I could block out a couple of hours for it. In fact, I have to be in Burbank most of next Saturday for some union training (we're ramping up for contract talks) - so that might work. Don't think I know where the Glendale DMV is, got some cross streets? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:02:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Talk about bug-eyes! Message-ID: Click on the "video" button at the top of the article. That Jennifer Wilbanks photo that everyone has seen does no justice to how her eyeballs bug out of her head, it's so weird it looks like they're ready to pop out! Oh, and just for you Redstone, a couple of other things pop out quite nicely ;-) http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S8588.html?cat=87 From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Fri Jun 3 15:05:50 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7q60b$mpn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Click on the "video" button at the top of the article. That Jennifer > Wilbanks photo that everyone has seen does no justice Barney Google eyes? -- Runaway Bride Central http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/601709 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:06:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:10:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: >>> Woof. :) >> Arf! :-) > Mink! Mink? Bzzzzzt!, wrong species... ;-) > Yeah that's the idea. It's an introductory 30-min lesson...so I want > that time in the air, rather than waiting to taxi to the runway. :) It ain't the waiting to taxi to the runway that's the problem, it's those "You're number 5 for the airport, report on downwind" calls from the control tower that get ya... ;-) >> You never know what you're going to find on .social... ;-) > Actually I do. :-P Oh? Do share... :-) > Yeah yesterday was dark...but it's already sunny here today. :) Yep, here too. I hear the bike calling me again today. :-) > Everything is included for this one. Headsets, fuel, the works. :) Excellent - have fun! :-) Oh yeah, one other thing while I think about it... If your experience is typical, you'll probably come away from your first flight thinking this is something that's incredibly complex and that you'll never be able to master all of the details. Trust me, you will - it all falls together (and eventually makes sense) given enough time and practice. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:07:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Jennifer Wilbanks Nominated Ambassador To The U.N. Message-ID: By Robert Paul Reyes May 28, 2005 The battle to confirm John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations went down in flames when the cantankerous nominee was videotaped barbecuing a pair of love birds in his backyard grill. When Bolton was informed that the president had pulled his nomination, he exploded into smithereens, leaving behind only his white mustache and a small pebble, believed to be his heart. The Democrats immediately insisted that Oprah Winfrey would make a great choice for the coveted diplomatic post. Instead of a man who is rough around the edges, why not the roly poly ambassador of love and understanding, they pleaded? But the Democrats had to back down when Oprah insisted that she would serve as U.N. ambassador only if the world body was renamed "The United Nations of Oprah." In a surprise move President Bush nominated Jennifer Wilbanks as the next ambassador to the United Nations. Initially, the Democrats reacted with shock and outrageous, insisting that the born again Wilbanks is to rigidly conservative to serve as a diplomat. But when Wilbanks delivered a speech declaring that the answer to the quagmire in Iraq is for our troops to simply run away, the Democrats had a change of heart and they heaped praise on President George W. Bush for thinking outside the box, and making such a bold and unconventional nomination. It looks like smooth sailing for the Runaway Bride, she will most likely be confirmed by the Senate. Barring any spectacular development in the Jennifer Wilbanks saga, this will be my last Wilbanks essay. My psychiatrist strongly urged me to write an essay about something other than Wilbanks. http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/may/article397.html From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Fri Jun 3 15:07:15 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Breathe of Bite? Message-ID: Dunno how the little biting insects get in when the windows are all closed and sealed... but trying to work on the PC last night was difficult with flying things landing on the screen to digest after biting me on my a$$ -- so I plugged in one of those Raid plug-ins and although the bugs died, I was coughing and wheezing all night from the toxins.... There gotta be a better way... -- We'll give you the shirt off our back... http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/493340 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:07:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:10:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > No Ginsu Knife set, but how about some 2 year old McDonald's BBQ sauce? Hmmm.... what's the octane rating of that BBQ sauce? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:15:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: Dwayne Conyers wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7q60b$mpn$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Click on the "video" button at the top of the article. That Jennifer > > Wilbanks photo that everyone has seen does no justice > > > Barney Google eyes? More like Marty Feldman on a really bad day...... From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 12:18:19 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> I usually do the one here in Glendale. They have both the circle and >> the weaving...the circle is pretty easy, but the weaving is REALLY shaky. > > > Ahh... that's a scenario custom made for counter-steering. :-) > > You may find that you have to "lead" your steering inputs a little bit > (i.e. start turning in the opposite direction while you're still going > the other way) to make it through, but whatever works. > > Let me know if you're interested in some tutoring, can't do it this > weekend but with some notice I could block out a couple of hours for it. > In fact, I have to be in Burbank most of next Saturday for some union > training (we're ramping up for contract talks) - so that might work. > > Don't think I know where the Glendale DMV is, got some cross streets? > If you don't mind being a tutor, I could certainly use the training. :) The Glendale DMV is on Glenoaks a few blocks outside of Burbank. Not sure what the major cross streets are. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:19:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:20:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:d7q68j$n0h$1@news.spamcop.net... Dunno how the little biting insects get in when the windows are all closed and sealed... but trying to work on the PC last night was difficult with flying things landing on the screen to digest after biting me on my a$$ -- so I plugged in one of those Raid plug-ins and although the bugs died, I was coughing and wheezing all night from the toxins.... There gotta be a better way... Well, covering your ass might be a good start, all that naked computing is too much for them to resist. Just curious - why can you not set your preference is OE to send messages in plain text only instead of HTML? I know you want to get rid of OE, but you shouldn't have to, why is HTML a problem for you? From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 12:22:06 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > > Mink? Bzzzzzt!, wrong species... ;-) Dogs go mink.... > It ain't the waiting to taxi to the runway that's the problem, it's > those "You're number 5 for the airport, report on downwind" calls from > the control tower that get ya... ;-) Ah ok. :) Well a small airport will have less of that too. :) > > > Oh? Do share... :-) Nah. :) > > Excellent - have fun! :-) Will do. Gonna stop for fly-through pizza. :) > > Oh yeah, one other thing while I think about it... If your experience is > typical, you'll probably come away from your first flight thinking this > is something that's incredibly complex and that you'll never be able to > master all of the details. Trust me, you will - it all falls together > (and eventually makes sense) given enough time and practice. :-) > Actually it seems pretty simple to me. Roll, pitch, yaw...been doing flight sims for years. :) Only thing I'm nervous about is a mid-air collison. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 12:22:40 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> No Ginsu Knife set, but how about some 2 year old McDonald's BBQ sauce? > > > Hmmm.... what's the octane rating of that BBQ sauce? > Somewhere between SR-71 fuel and rocket booster fuel. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:26:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7q60b$mpn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Click on the "video" button at the top of the article. That Jennifer > Wilbanks photo that everyone has seen does no justice to how her eyeballs > bug out of her head, it's so weird it looks like they're ready to pop out! > Oh, and just for you Redstone, a couple of other things pop out quite nicely > ;-) > > http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S8588.html?cat=87 One of the papers calls her "The Bug Eyed Bolter".... I heard her 911 tape last night, it was nauseating, knowing she was acting her ass off. Her lawyer said "Oh, you can just hear how tormented she was!" Hello, she was LYING........ And she sounded so stupid, "They cut mah hay-er!!" From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:36:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > If you don't mind being a tutor, I could certainly use the training. :) Not at all, in fact counter-steering is one of those things that's easier to show someone in person than to explain with a thousand words on a newsgroup. You're probably using it already without being aware of it, unless you're just coasting/gliding when you turn(?). I'd really prefer that you get that stuff from a certified class, but I can show you the basics and hopefully that will be enough so you can practice and pick it up on your own. It's *really* not as hard as it sounds. > The Glendale DMV is on Glenoaks a few blocks outside of Burbank. Not > sure what the major cross streets are. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/fo/offices/fo.cgi?fo=glendale510 That's actually close to where we'll be meeting next Saturday (Burbank Blvd., just off the 5 freeway). I don't know what time we'll be finished (I'm guessing sometime around 5 PM), so (assuming the weather's nice enough to ride that day) I could give you a call when we're done. Send me a phone number to 8p3l-3nn0 dea.spamcon.org and we'll take it from there. Don't have my cell number handy, I'll have to get it out of the phone and send it to you. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:13:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7q2e0$ke1$3@news.spamcop.net... | Taking my first flight lesson today. Going up in a small Cessna and flying | over the Santa Clarita mountains. I can't wait. :) Man that gives me a case of wing fever. No longer medically qualified but still love the art. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:44:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:45:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Dogs go mink.... Only the social-climbers, and I try to avoid those... :-) > Will do. Gonna stop for fly-through pizza. :) If not the $100 hamburger. :-) > Actually it seems pretty simple to me. Roll, pitch, yaw...been doing > flight sims for years. :) Hah... wait til you have to do it for real, I don't know of any real-world airplane that comes with the option of "Pause" or "Restart". :-) But I will say this - landing a real one is a *lot* easier than landing any of the Flite Sims that I've ever played with - in fact, I seriously doubt that any of those aircraft would pass an FAA certification test. Though I've got to say it seems like they seem to have improved the flight characteristics in recent years, and I can now actually land the 172 in FliteSim 2004. Less realistic (but a lot more fun) is to crash it out in the boonies somewhere, then apply full power and fly away with the wreckage. :-) > Only thing I'm nervous about is a mid-air collison. Burn the phrase "keep your head on a swivel" into your subconscious. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 12:45:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Somewhere between SR-71 fuel and rocket booster fuel. I'll take 5 gallons then. Will I need special pistons on the Beemer-Bike to run that stuff? -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Fri Jun 3 15:49:47 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7q6v5$nih$1@news.spamcop.net... > Just curious - why can you not set your preference is OE to send messages > in plain > text only instead of HTML? I know you want to get rid of OE, but you > shouldn't have > to, why is HTML a problem for you? I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in some frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down the button or yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the battery out. A lot of program settings seem to get lost and I have a ritual of restoring them each day -- but sometimes I forget... -- We'll give you the shirt off our back... http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/493340 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 15:52:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Jun 3 14:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:d7q8ob$oea$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in some > frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down the button or > yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the battery out. A lot of > program settings seem to get lost and I have a ritual of restoring them each > day -- but sometimes I forget... have you tried reinstalling the operating system? Drastic but it might work. From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Fri Jun 3 16:02:48 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7q8t6$ok7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message > news:d7q8ob$oea$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in some >> frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down the button >> or >> yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the battery out. A lot >> of >> program settings seem to get lost and I have a ritual of restoring them >> each >> day -- but sometimes I forget... > > have you tried reinstalling the operating system? Drastic but it might > work. Don't have admin rights for the laptop. On my home PC, no problem... but when I am at work or on the road, I'm stuck unless I want a 2-day outage while the MIS team takes the laptop, runs diagnostics, does whatever to log real working time for themselves for a couple days... and then returns it and knock-on-wood it is right but chances are I lose someting. Bottom line, I will put a yellow stickie on the monitor to help remind myself... a lot easier without the associated pain. :-\ -- Should a man answer the tears of his child or the orders of his President? http://www.dwacon.com/publications/pater_familias.asp From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:14:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> If you don't mind being a tutor, I could certainly use the training. :) > > > Not at all, in fact counter-steering is one of those things that's > easier to show someone in person than to explain with a thousand words > on a newsgroup. You're probably using it already without being aware of > it, unless you're just coasting/gliding when you turn(?). Oh yeah I'm already familiar with it. You can't ride ANY two-wheeled vehicle without counter-steering. :) It's doing it back and forth over a very short distance at a low speed that gets me... > > I'd really prefer that you get that stuff from a certified class, but I > can show you the basics and hopefully that will be enough so you can > practice and pick it up on your own. It's *really* not as hard as it > sounds. Yeah, the class is just expensive, that's all. On the other hand, since I won't actually be putting the cash down for my house until late summer / early fall, I might be able to swing for the course this month. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:15:41 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Dogs go mink.... > > > Only the social-climbers, and I try to avoid those... :-) > >> Will do. Gonna stop for fly-through pizza. :) > > > If not the $100 hamburger. :-) > >> Actually it seems pretty simple to me. Roll, pitch, yaw...been doing >> flight sims for years. :) > > > Hah... wait til you have to do it for real, I don't know of any > real-world airplane that comes with the option of "Pause" or "Restart". > :-) > > But I will say this - landing a real one is a *lot* easier than landing > any of the Flite Sims that I've ever played with - in fact, I seriously > doubt that any of those aircraft would pass an FAA certification test. > > Though I've got to say it seems like they seem to have improved the > flight characteristics in recent years, and I can now actually land the > 172 in FliteSim 2004. > > Less realistic (but a lot more fun) is to crash it out in the boonies > somewhere, then apply full power and fly away with the wreckage. :-) As it's my first lesson, the instructor will be doing the take-offs and landings. I'll take the controls when we get airborne. :) > >> Only thing I'm nervous about is a mid-air collison. > > > Burn the phrase "keep your head on a swivel" into your subconscious. :-) > Hmm...I'll remember that. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:16:01 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Somewhere between SR-71 fuel and rocket booster fuel. > > > I'll take 5 gallons then. Will I need special pistons on the Beemer-Bike > to run that stuff? > Pistons won't cut it. You need a turbine. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:21:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Pistons won't cut it. You need a turbine. Something like this? http://www.marineturbine.com/motorsports.asp -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:23:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Oh yeah I'm already familiar with it. You can't ride ANY two-wheeled > vehicle without counter-steering. :) It's doing it back and forth over > a very short distance at a low speed that gets me... Nothing to it, it's all in the rhythm... plus developing the confidence that you're not going to tip over in the process... ;-) > Yeah, the class is just expensive, that's all. Well, I've already given you my 2-cents worth on it, so I won't repeat it. I'd consider the $200 safety course to be the price of admission to the sport, but that's just me. YMMV. :-) > On the other hand, since > I won't actually be putting the cash down for my house until late summer > / early fall, I might be able to swing for the course this month. The housing market's looking more and more like the stock market bubble of 2000. Personally, I'm going to wait it out and buy something after it pops. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:28:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > As it's my first lesson, the instructor will be doing the take-offs and > landings. I'll take the controls when we get airborne. :) Well, I would hope so... :-) Though my instructor surprised me and had me do the takeoff on my second lesson. Kinda wobbly (BTW, you don't have to use right rudder on Flite Sim) but we got off the ground OK. Landing practice usually doesn't start until you've got a few (5-10) hours under your belt. Which kind of begs the question, how can you afford flying lessons and not the MSF course? > Hmm...I'll remember that. :) If not that one, try "A mid-air collision can ruin your whole day". :-) http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/birdshot.asp -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:31:22 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Pistons won't cut it. You need a turbine. > > > Something like this? > > http://www.marineturbine.com/motorsports.asp > That's the puppy. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:34:25 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > > Which kind of begs the question, how can you afford flying lessons and > not the MSF course? Free introductory lesson gift certificate for my birthday. :) > >> Hmm...I'll remember that. :) > > > If not that one, try "A mid-air collision can ruin your whole day". :-) > > http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/birdshot.asp > Ouch... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:33:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > That's the puppy. :) Remind me not to eat beans before riding that one... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Fri Jun 3 16:34:19 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:35:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Virtual Red Light District gets the Green Light... Message-ID: By The Associated Press 8:10 AM EDT Thu. Jun. 02, 2005 The Internet's primary oversight body approved a plan Wednesday to create a virtual red-light district, setting the stage for pornographic Web sites to use new addresses ending in "xxx." The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) said it would begin negotiations with ICM Registry, run by British businessman Stuart Lawley, to iron out technical issues and prices for the new Web addresses. Adult-oriented sites, a $12 billion industry, probably could begin buying "xxx" addresses as early as fall or winter depending on ICM's plans, ICANN spokesman Kieran Baker said. The new pornography suffix was among 10 under consideration by the regulatory group, which also recently approved addresses ending in "jobs" and "travel." ICM contends the "xxx" Web addresses, which it plans to sell for $60 a year, will protect children from online smut if adult sites voluntarily adopt the suffix so filtering software used by families can more effectively block access to those sites. The $60 price is roughly ten times higher than prices other companies charge for dot-com names. "It will further help to protect kids," said John Morris, staff counsel at the Washington-based Center for Democracy and Technology. Morris predicted some adult sites will choose to buy "xxx" Web addresses but others will continue to use dot-com. -- We'll give you the shirt off our back... http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/493340 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 13:35:14 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Free introductory lesson gift certificate for my birthday. :) OK, that gets you off the hook for now... ;-) Careful, flying's about as addicting as motorcycling - you'll probably find yourself signing up for more of it. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:51:49 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> That's the puppy. :) > > > Remind me not to eat beans before riding that one... :-) > You'd be going too fast for the flame to catch up. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 13:52:26 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 15:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Free introductory lesson gift certificate for my birthday. :) > > > OK, that gets you off the hook for now... ;-) > > Careful, flying's about as addicting as motorcycling - you'll probably > find yourself signing up for more of it. :-) > heh, not likely. Unlike a "mere" 200 bucks for a MSF course, the full pilot's license course costs close to 6 grand. :) From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Fri Jun 3 19:44:39 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Fri Jun 3 18:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: In article , "Heidi" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a permit > > from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to liquor > > wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the latter). If a > > private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy it from the state > > stores. > > Sheesh, no one sees their freedom being restricted here? It's allowed under the 21st Amendment. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Fri Jun 3 19:46:09 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Fri Jun 3 18:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Taking my first flight lesson today. Going up in a small Cessna and flying > over the Santa Clarita mountains. I can't wait. :) Just remember: Takeoffs are optional, landings are mandatory. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Fri Jun 3 19:51:16 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Fri Jun 3 18:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! References: Message-ID: In article , GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > > > Will do. Gonna stop for fly-through pizza. :) > > If not the $100 hamburger. :-) I know where you can get a $100 cheesesteak. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Jun 3 17:03:42 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Jun 3 19:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Ulitmate streamer --- References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > Two parachutes ... is that in place of some common sense? Nah, just in case something goes horribly wrong -- shit happens. Better to have two parachutes, you know? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:51:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 20:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7ppln$fb5$2@news.spamcop.net... > When I was a young pup and living in PA about 1/2 hour from the MD state > line there was a huge liquor store on Rt 1 right across the border -- the > law back then was bringing back a case of beer or more was illegal, so we'd > always drink one beer in parking lot before leaving. It wasn't illegal to > bring in 23 cans of beer! ;-) LOL. How ridiculous though. It's worse than the EU! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:52:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 20:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Stonehenge's "character" threatened (?) References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <83vgwcn02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:d7o436$im3$1@news.spamcop.net... > Mike Easter wrote: > > Skiwi wrote: > > > >>http://www.savestonehenge.org.uk/homepage.html > > > > Oh, well. They can always go visit the kiwi stonehenge in Wairarapa. > > Don't forget lovely Carhenge in Nebraska > http://personal.udri.udayton.edu/klosterm/achenge.htm > > It is build to scale. I was surprised how small it seemed, I always > imagined Stonehenge/Carhenge would be much bigger. You'd be amazed what 'presence' the stones have which I'm 100% sure the cars lack. Go see for yourself one of these days. And go early in the morning when there's nobody around. It's downright creepy. Of course you'd have to rent a car. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:53:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 20:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: VETs honor Fonda References: <429b89b4$1_2@x-privat.org> Message-ID: "HeyBub" wrote in message news:d7o43u$inn$1@news.spamcop.net... > Conservatives generally don't give a fig whether they're liked. What's right > is right and not subject to a vote. And as you've just said, they don't give a fig so when they're wrong they don't care either (witness this Administration). From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:56:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: DF's booze problem (was Crazy Ebay Mom) References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-8A250C.20505202062005@news.cesmail.net... > > What would your doctor say about it? > > He says that drinking on special occasions is OK, as long as I don't > overdo it. So tell her what your doc says! Get him to write an Rx for you for a bottle or two LOL. > No, auto theft is not that much of a problem. My brother is just freaked > out that I live in a mostly black neighborhood. Like a lot of whites in > Philly, he thinks that black neighborhood = high-crime area. Sheesh, how small minded. > > > Ditto your friends. > > Well, I've seen my friends drive. They wouldn't be able to deal with the > traffic or the small streets. They *could* come by other means! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:58:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-61AA00.22323302062005@news.cesmail.net... > It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a permit > from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to liquor > wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the latter). If a > private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy it from the state > stores. For a 'free' country there sure are some draconian laws in place. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 18:58:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:d7ohin$qf8$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-61AA00.22323302062005@news.cesmail.net... > > It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a permit > > from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to liquor > > wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the latter). If a > > private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy it from the state > > stores. > > Sheesh, no one sees their freedom being restricted here? I don't know why I bother replying to posts after you LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:01:45 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns9669D94D434D6tinlc@216.154.195.61... > Ya.. but only in small pockets. Unlike the northeast that get > carpetbombed each year. :-p LOL@carpetbombed... ain't that the truth From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:04:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7pki3$cci$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:d7o30n$i14$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Shame a driver around here didn't have the camera in the back of their SUV a > > few days ago - a kid might be alive today if they had. > > > what happened, did someone run over their own kid? No. They ran over the neighbour's kid. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/053105_child_crushed.html From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:05:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-F80C28.10071903062005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > Do all states now require a skills test for a MC license? FWIW my MC ticket > > was grandfathered ... never so much as a written test much less a > > driver/skills test. > > My wife was grandfathered in in WV, but when we moved to VA, they did > not add the endorsement to her license. I used to legally ride in PA, > but never was told that the law was changing, so I didn't get > grandfathered when the law changed. So now we've inherited a couple of > Harleys and can't go get them until we take the class or the skills > test. The classes fill up on the day registration opens, so we have to > wait another year. We can't take the skills test because you have to use > someone else's bike which is registered in VA. We don't know any riders > in VA. You mean that unlike Borg who can legally drive his motorcycle even though he has no license specifically for it, you can't do the same? Or is it just that you'd have to use Interstates to bring them home? Have you looked into getting them shipped? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:06:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7pq3n$fdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > Do you do a lot of miles annually? > > Normally 18-20 K miles per year, so 5 year loan = 100k miles = time for a > new car. that's quite a lot of miles... we're lucky to do 6k a year From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:07:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey Indi References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7ppqa$fbq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > did you see the race this past weekend? > > What a dumb question -- of course I did! Poor Kimi, your heart just had to > break when his front suspension exploded with one lap to go...... Oh I wasn't too sorry. They should have come in and they gambled and it didn't pay off. You could see that thing was about to fall off. He could have been killed. I remember the old days when the wheel would have flown off and hit someone. Good thing they have them tethered now. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 19:08:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7pq9b$fjh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Charles wrote: > > > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend more > > money overall because it is so easy to do. > > No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm a guy, not > a chick, for chrissakes! *narrows eyes at Indi* (again) From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 19:51:10 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , GregR > wrote: > > >>Borgholio wrote: >> >> >>>Will do. Gonna stop for fly-through pizza. :) >> >>If not the $100 hamburger. :-) > > > I know where you can get a $100 cheesesteak. Make it a $100 pastrami and I'm there. From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 19:52:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 21:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Back from flying Message-ID: In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick time of my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting enough to sign up for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the non-so-distant future. The fact that you can take out a loan and end up only paying about 50 bucks per month is a really good deal. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Jun 3 19:55:40 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Jun 3 22:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick time of > my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting enough to sign up > for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the non-so-distant future. The fact > that you can take out a loan and end up only paying about 50 bucks per month > is a really good deal. :) The whole "taking out a loan" bit scares me. :) I want to see video of you barrel-rolling the cessna. :) I've been interested in learning how to fly, and there's a great General Aviation airport nearby that has lessons for like $150/lesson. Not a bad price, I've been told. In addition to small aircraft, I'd love to learn how to fly helicopters and other rotorcraft. Useful skills, those. One of these days I'm going to get my ham radio cert too... -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 20:02:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 22:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick time of >>my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting enough to sign up >>for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the non-so-distant future. The fact >>that you can take out a loan and end up only paying about 50 bucks per month >>is a really good deal. :) > > > The whole "taking out a loan" bit scares me. :) Ditto...especially this close to buying a house. :) > > I want to see video of you barrel-rolling the cessna. :) Nah, my instructor kept a constant grip on the controls. Maybe in a few years. :) > > I've been interested in learning how to fly, and there's a great General > Aviation airport nearby that has lessons for like $150/lesson. Not a bad > price, I've been told. In addition to small aircraft, I'd love to learn > how to fly helicopters and other rotorcraft. Useful skills, those. Yeah it costs about $6,000 total to get a general aviation license, but each starter lesson only runs about $150 or so ($100 for one hour aircraft rental, $50 for two hours instructor time). Half the lesson is on the ground, but if you already know your stuff, then you can skip certain parts and get more flight time. As you progress, your training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). So the more advanced lessons will run upwards of $500 bucks. > > One of these days I'm going to get my ham radio cert too... > Ham radio? Going to have the mic covered in pigskin? From borgholio at storymind.com Fri Jun 3 20:14:08 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Fri Jun 3 22:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Oh my freaking ears... Message-ID: I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 seconds and you'll know what I mean. http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Jun 3 20:33:00 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Jun 3 22:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 > seconds and you'll know what I mean. Idiot driver. For those who might be under the impression that she was simply tased for not getting out of the vehicle and the cop was a bit trigger happy, she was driving on a suspended license (an arrestable offense). Refusing to comply with an officer during the process of a legal arrest, resisting arrest, assault on an officer, and other general stupidity is certainly grounds for his actions, IMHO. My friend's boyfriend is an Arizona highway patrolman, and he's been tased before he got issued the taser. The prongs set his shirt on fire (small fire, quickly extinguished) in addition to zapping the everliving daylights out of him. He says it sucks hard, but isn't nearly as bad as that woman makes it out to be. Maybe next time she'll comply with a legal arrest... :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Fri Jun 3 20:36:52 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Fri Jun 3 22:40:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Yeah it costs about $6,000 total to get a general aviation license, but each > starter lesson only runs about $150 or so ($100 for one hour aircraft > rental, $50 for two hours instructor time). Half the lesson is on the > ground, but if you already know your stuff, then you can skip certain parts > and get more flight time. As you progress, your training will involve > cross-country flights...the longest being from here to Palo Alto (about 5 > hours flight time). So the more advanced lessons will run upwards of $500 > bucks. Hmm. You should land in Palo Alto up here and stop by, get some lunch or something. :) > > One of these days I'm going to get my ham radio cert too... > > Ham radio? Going to have the mic covered in pigskin? Possibly. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:19:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7pqv2$g1s$1@news.spamcop.net... > Really? Of all the pizza chains, I like Pizza Hut far better than any > others, and I think the worst is Papa Johns. Those morons put the pepperoni > _under_ the cheese! How the heck is it supposed to get yummily crispy > underneath cheese?! LOL. I don't like Papa John's either. I generally don't like any of the chains' pizzas. I prefer them from a real pizzeria but unfortunately our favourite one recently closed down which was a real bummer. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:19:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:20:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d7pr2e$g38$1@news.spamcop.net... > Not a big chocolate lover, or any candy or sweets for that matter. I only > nibble on frozen Hershey's Dark Chocolate on occasion. *barf* Hershey's isn't chocolate. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:21:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7q0s0$jfp$3@news.spamcop.net... > Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course test, then > tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. choppers look inherently dangerous to me, hell they're downright stupid From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:24:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7q52u$m1g$1@news.spamcop.net... > I usually do the one here in Glendale. They have both the circle and the > weaving...the circle is pretty easy, but the weaving is REALLY shaky. Glendale DMV is the BEST DMV I've ever been in as far as wait times go. I may even go over there next time I have to go to the DMV rather than face the horrors of Santa Monica. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:28:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: grrrrrrr (you know what you did) so do you sit at the computer nekkid? >"Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:d7q68j$n0h$1@news.spamcop.net... Dunno how the little biting insects get in when the windows are all closed and sealed... but trying to work on the PC last night was difficult with flying things landing on the screen to digest after biting me on my a$$ -- so I plugged in one of those Raid plug-ins and although the bugs died, I was coughing and wheezing all night from the toxins.... There gotta be a better way... -- We'll give you the shirt off our back... http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/493340 From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:32:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7q6s3$nhq$1@news.spamcop.net... > If you don't mind being a tutor, I could certainly use the training. :) > The Glendale DMV is on Glenoaks a few blocks outside of Burbank. Not sure > what the major cross streets are. Couple of blocks east (south?) of Sonora IIRC. Not sure if you'd say Glenoaks was an e/w or n/s street really From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:34:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:d7q8ob$oea$1@news.spamcop.net... > I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in some > frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down the button or > yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the battery out. A lot of > program settings seem to get lost and I have a ritual of restoring them each > day -- but sometimes I forget... holy crap.. that's a disaster waiting to happen can you reinstall the OS? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:34:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7q8t6$ok7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message > news:d7q8ob$oea$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in some > > frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down the button or > > yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the battery out. A lot of > > program settings seem to get lost and I have a ritual of restoring them each > > day -- but sometimes I forget... > > have you tried reinstalling the operating system? Drastic but it might work. doh! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:37:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7r1g8$5ff$2@news.spamcop.net... > In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick time of > my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting enough to sign up > for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the non-so-distant future. The fact > that you can take out a loan and end up only paying about 50 bucks per month > is a really good deal. :) The word 'loan' kinda scares me. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:37:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-5865F0.18554003062005@news.cesmail.net... > The whole "taking out a loan" bit scares me. :) I think I'll give up and go to bed. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:40:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Sat Jun 4 01:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d7r2o5$6dk$1@news.spamcop.net... > I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 seconds > and you'll know what I mean. > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html What a frikkin drama queen. Maybe if she hadn't been such a smartass in the first place she'd have spared herself any trouble at all. From skiwi at spamcop.net Fri Jun 3 23:58:03 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Sat Jun 4 02:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7r2o5$6dk$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 seconds >>and you'll know what I mean. >> >>http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html > > > What a frikkin drama queen. Maybe if she hadn't been such a smartass in the > first place she'd have spared herself any trouble at all. Pulling the racism card seemed to fit in with her persona... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 04:05:01 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Sat Jun 4 04:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Arf! :-) That sounds like the bark of a small dog, not a big one. :-P From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:12:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > You'd be going too fast for the flame to catch up. :) Yeah, and it probably wouldn't add that much thrust, either. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:13:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:15:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > heh, not likely. Unlike a "mere" 200 bucks for a MSF course, the full > pilot's license course costs close to 6 grand. :) That much??? I would have figured about half that, though the price of avgas these days is probably somewhere north of $3.00/gallon. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:15:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick time > of my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting enough to > sign up for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the non-so-distant future. > The fact that you can take out a loan and end up only paying about 50 > bucks per month is a really good deal. :) Hahahaha! I knew it... :-) Glad you had a good time, and hopefully you'll find a way to get into the aviating world as well. It doesn't get much better. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:24:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cat wrote: > That sounds like the bark of a small dog, not a big one. :-P Ahh, but that was just a friendly bark. My bite can be much bigger if needed. :-) How'z the showbiz career? We've been hearing rumors for weeks that Carson Daly ("Last Call") was moving his show to Burbank, and they were confirmed this past week. So that's good news for us - more work for our people, and it probably squelches the rumor that the Burbank lot was going to be closed down and sold (at least for now). We're gearing up for contract talks later this year (I'm already knee-deep in preps for that), and also negotiating to get a foothold on some of the production being done up at the Universal lot. Never a dull moment. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:35:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Nah, my instructor kept a constant grip on the controls. Maybe in a few > years. :) Hopefully you got to do some basic maneuvering (turns, climbs, descents), right? > Yeah it costs about $6,000 total to get a general aviation license, but > each starter lesson only runs about $150 or so ($100 for one hour > aircraft rental, $50 for two hours instructor time). What are you renting that costs $100/hour, 172? If they've got 152s available (smaller and only 2-place) and you're able to fit into one, that should be less expensive (I'd guess around $80/hour). Though as you're finding out, nothing associated with flying is "cheap". Q: How do you make a small fortune in aviation? A: Start with a large one. :-) > Half the lesson is > on the ground, but if you already know your stuff, then you can skip > certain parts and get more flight time. Don't sell the ground instruction part short. As I'm sure you realize by now, an airplane is the world's *worst* classroom - and back when I learned we didn't have headsets, imagine shouting back and forth for an hour or two. :-) It's also a lot cheaper to go over the lesson plan on the ground at $25/hour vs. in a noisy airplane at $125/hour. > As you progress, your training > will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from here to Palo > Alto (about 5 hours flight time). So the more advanced lessons will run > upwards of $500 bucks. X-country to me was *the* reason to learn in the first place. YMMV. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:39:15 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > > Hmm. You should land in Palo Alto up here and stop by, get some lunch or > something. :) Deal. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:40:07 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7q52u$m1g$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I usually do the one here in Glendale. They have both the circle and the > >>weaving...the circle is pretty easy, but the weaving is REALLY shaky. > > > Glendale DMV is the BEST DMV I've ever been in as far as wait times go. I > may even go over there next time I have to go to the DMV rather than face > the horrors of Santa Monica. > > Agreed. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:40:53 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> You'd be going too fast for the flame to catch up. :) > > > Yeah, and it probably wouldn't add that much thrust, either. :-) > With the size of YOUR ass? I think it'd add plenty of thrust. :-P From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:41:40 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> heh, not likely. Unlike a "mere" 200 bucks for a MSF course, the full >> pilot's license course costs close to 6 grand. :) > > > That much??? I would have figured about half that, though the price of > avgas these days is probably somewhere north of $3.00/gallon. > Nah, it's expensive. When you get to the advanced lessons where you spend more time in the air than on the ground, you end up doing 4 or 5 hour flights...at 100 bucks per hour for the plane and 26 bucks per hour for the instructor. From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:42:05 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick >> time of my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting >> enough to sign up for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the >> non-so-distant future. The fact that you can take out a loan and end >> up only paying about 50 bucks per month is a really good deal. :) > > > Hahahaha! I knew it... :-) > > Glad you had a good time, and hopefully you'll find a way to get into > the aviating world as well. It doesn't get much better. :-) > I'm going for an astronaut's license now. :) From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:45:00 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:45:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > > Hopefully you got to do some basic maneuvering (turns, climbs, > descents), right? I got to taxi, a few rudder turns, and a few attempts at maintaining 75 knots. : > > What are you renting that costs $100/hour, 172? If they've got 152s > available (smaller and only 2-place) and you're able to fit into one, > that should be less expensive (I'd guess around $80/hour). Though as > you're finding out, nothing associated with flying is "cheap". Yeah the 172 is the smallest these guys have. > > It's also a lot cheaper to go over the lesson plan on the ground at > $25/hour vs. in a noisy airplane at $125/hour. So true. :) > > > X-country to me was *the* reason to learn in the first place. YMMV. :-) > Yeah I think it'd be sweet to fly to Yosemite and back. Having family / friends with you would cut down on the cost tremendously. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:45:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > I want to see video of you barrel-rolling the cessna. :) Heh... the only Cessna that's certified for aerobatics (that I know of) is the Aerobat: http://www.fxtech.com/gallery/mfj_misc/IMG_2742. Unofficially, I've heard rumor of people doing rolls, loops, etc. in the various standard production aircraft models, but at that point you've officially become a test pilot. :-) > I've been interested in learning how to fly, and there's a great General > Aviation airport nearby that has lessons for like $150/lesson. Not a bad > price, I've been told. Which airport? > In addition to small aircraft, I'd love to learn > how to fly helicopters and other rotorcraft. I'd suggest getting the fixed-wing rating first, then going for the rotorcraft add-on. The price of admission to the fixed-wing club is a lot less than the sling-wing one, and most of your aeronautical skills will transfer (you won't need as many rotary hours to get the add-on as you would if you were starting from scratch). I've got a few hours in helos (and more in the back seat as a TV engineer/camera operator) - they're a lot of fun, but it was really hard for me to get out of the habit of rolling your feet forward to apply the "brakes" when starting the helo's engine. :-) > Useful skills, those. Heh... maybe for emptying out your bank account... :-) > One of these days I'm going to get my ham radio cert too... You'd be amazed at the repeater range (and the number of them) that you can get at altitude. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:47:43 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I'm going for an astronaut's license now. :) You need to speak to Burt Rutan: http://www.scaled.com/index.html -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:49:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: >> Glendale DMV is the BEST DMV I've ever been in as far as wait times go. I >> may even go over there next time I have to go to the DMV rather than face >> the horrors of Santa Monica. > Agreed. :) Seems like I took my road test at the North Hollywood DMV because I'd been told that they weren't quite as "strict" if you made a minor mistake or two on the course... but it's been long enough ('91 or '92) that I don't remember for sure. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:50:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:55:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > With the size of YOUR ass? I think it'd add plenty of thrust. :-P Pffffft... I'm proportional for my height, ya little wimp. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:52:37 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>> Glendale DMV is the BEST DMV I've ever been in as far as wait times >>> go. I >>> may even go over there next time I have to go to the DMV rather than >>> face >>> the horrors of Santa Monica. > > >> Agreed. :) > > > Seems like I took my road test at the North Hollywood DMV because I'd > been told that they weren't quite as "strict" if you made a minor > mistake or two on the course... but it's been long enough ('91 or '92) > that I don't remember for sure. > They were MUCH stricter when I took my driver's test years ago. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 13:54:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 15:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Nah, it's expensive. When you get to the advanced lessons where you > spend more time in the air than on the ground, you end up doing 4 or 5 > hour flights...at 100 bucks per hour for the plane and 26 bucks per hour > for the instructor. Yeah, but if you budget your training dollars at so many hours per month, it all works out. 4-5 hours seems a little excessive, seems like my long cross-countries (3 legs) came in at ~3 hours each. Last time I checked, the requirements for the private ticket included one long x-c of 3 100 nautical mile legs (with a landing at the end of each one) - don't know if that's still current or not. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:58:57 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> With the size of YOUR ass? I think it'd add plenty of thrust. :-P > > > Pffffft... I'm proportional for my height, ya little wimp. :-) > heh :) From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 13:59:31 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Nah, it's expensive. When you get to the advanced lessons where you >> spend more time in the air than on the ground, you end up doing 4 or 5 >> hour flights...at 100 bucks per hour for the plane and 26 bucks per >> hour for the instructor. > > > Yeah, but if you budget your training dollars at so many hours per > month, it all works out. 4-5 hours seems a little excessive, seems like > my long cross-countries (3 legs) came in at ~3 hours each. > > Last time I checked, the requirements for the private ticket included > one long x-c of 3 100 nautical mile legs (with a landing at the end of > each one) - don't know if that's still current or not. > hmm....I'll find out in a few months. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:04:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I got to taxi, a few rudder turns, and a few attempts at maintaining 75 > knots. : Rudder turns on the ground, or in flight? 75K is climb speed, hopefully you got to do some "normal" flying as well? > Yeah the 172 is the smallest these guys have. Which FBO? My cow-orker says he flies out of Sunquest, he also mentioned Vista as another Cessna FBO at Whiteman. > Yeah I think it'd be sweet to fly to Yosemite and back. Having family / > friends with you would cut down on the cost tremendously. Yeah, once I got signed off for solo X/C I started flying several hours/day almost every day just to get in the air and go somewhere. I think I'd accumulated about 30-40 hours of X/C time when my instructor finally tapped me on the shoulder and said "Hey, don't you think it's time to start working on getting ready to take the check ride?" Check ride? Oh yeah, forgot about that minor detail. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:06:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > They were MUCH stricter when I took my driver's test years ago. Hmm.... maybe those inspectors moved to Glendale?... :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:08:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > heh :) Yeah, now you say that... I hereby sentence thee to a few hours of doing S-turns with counter-steering. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 14:10:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > > > Rudder turns on the ground, or in flight? Both. > > 75K is climb speed, hopefully you got to do some "normal" flying as well? Yeah we dropped to 65k on the return leg. > > Which FBO? My cow-orker says he flies out of Sunquest, he also mentioned > Vista as another Cessna FBO at Whiteman. I used Vista. > >> Yeah I think it'd be sweet to fly to Yosemite and back. Having family >> / friends with you would cut down on the cost tremendously. > > > Yeah, once I got signed off for solo X/C I started flying several > hours/day almost every day just to get in the air and go somewhere. > > I think I'd accumulated about 30-40 hours of X/C time when my instructor > finally tapped me on the shoulder and said "Hey, don't you think it's > time to start working on getting ready to take the check ride?" > > Check ride? Oh yeah, forgot about that minor detail. :-) > Check ride? Is that like the exam or something? :) From borgholio at storymind.com Sat Jun 4 14:11:27 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> heh :) > > > Yeah, now you say that... > > I hereby sentence thee to a few hours of doing S-turns with > counter-steering. > I'll do it in my truck. From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:11:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Going flying today! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > hmm....I'll find out in a few months. :) You could call the instructor you flew with and find out, or visit a pilot supply shop and get a copy of the Private Pilot Practical Test Standards (PTS). Don't know if there's one on Whiteman or not, if not San Val has what you need: http://www.san-val.com/main.htm. They also carry model trains if you're interested in acquiring yet another hobby... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:13:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:15:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: >> I hereby sentence thee to a few hours of doing S-turns with >> counter-steering. >> > > I'll do it in my truck. OK, as long as it's on 2 wheels. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 14:40:46 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Sat Jun 4 16:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Both. Anything in flight, other than straight and level? Just curious what you get on those "intro" certificates. And I guess you found out the real thing is a *little* more complicated than FliteSim, eh?.... ;-) > Yeah we dropped to 65k on the return leg. 60-65K is typically final approach (i.e. landing) speed, though you can fly the airplane at anything from near stall-speed to never-exceed speed. Did your instructor show you how well the plane flies hands-off? The first thing that I usually show people (especially first-time passengers) is that in straight-and-level the airplane flies pretty well by itself (better than any of us ever could), and the key to smooth flying is making small corrections. Hint: Same applies to riding motorcycles. :-) > I used Vista. You might want to call Sunquest and see if they've got 152s available. When I get back current I'm seriously thinking of going to Camarillo (vs. Van Nuys). They're both equidistant for me, and CMA is much nicer and has a lot less traffic - but probably too much of a drive for you. Hmm... I just looked at their website (http://www.flycia.com/rentals.htm) and they don't have 152s either. Wonder if the FBOs are phasing them out these days? I'm tall enough that I barely fit into one - my standard joke back then was that you didn't get into a 152, you strap it on. :-) > Check ride? Is that like the exam or something? :) Yeah, it's really a two-part process - a written exam (40 questions or so, don't know what's current these days) and a "check ride" with a designated examiner. You can take the written just about any time you think you're ready (and your instructor signs you off for it). Ground school wasn't required back when I was doing it (I don't think it is now either - if so, you can do self-study like I did if it's easier for you). Once you've accumulated the required flying hours, and your instructor is either sick and tired of flying with you (or has decided that you probably won't kill anyone (other than yourself) with your flying endeavors) s/he'll recommend you for the check ride. The check ride has two parts to it: An oral exam (i.e. the DE asks you questions relevant to the certificate you're seeking (aerodynamics, weather, navigation, rules/regs, safety, etc.), and hopefully you provide the right answers. If s/he's satisfied with your aeronautical knowledge, you then move on to the flight test. You'll plan an approx. 1 hour X/C, discuss your planning with the DE, file a flight plan and then start off flying it. Somewhere short of the destination the weather will "magically" deteriorate and you'll be asked to divert to another field. Getting the plane pointed towards the alternate field and knowing how about how long it will take to get there will work wonders towards getting a passing grade. :-) After that you'll cancel the flight plan, and the rest of the exam will concentrate on basic airwork, maneuvers, emergencies (engine out, fires, etc.) and whatever else the examiner decides to throw at you. Bear in mind that you're only testing for a private certificate, they're not expecting you to be Neil Armstrong. :-) Then it's back to the airport for a few landings (normal, short field, soft field, aborts, etc.) and hopefully you'll taxi back to the ramp and s/he'll fill out the paperwork on your new temporary pilot's license. And that is one of the greatest feelings you'll ever experience in this lifetime. :-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From baloo at ursine.ca Sat Jun 4 15:10:31 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 4 18:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: <7vh9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Borgholio wrote: > I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 seconds > and you'll know what I mean. > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html 50,000 volts hurts, but holy hell, she had a choice before she got tazered twice... I think to properly frame this, you really need to see the events that lead up to that. "You're not allowed to clock someone while you're driving." Umm, yes, you can. And maintain your vehicle, bitch! -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Sat Jun 4 15:13:09 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sat Jun 4 18:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Pete Stephenson wrote: > I've been interested in learning how to fly, and there's a great General > Aviation airport nearby that has lessons for like $150/lesson. Not a bad > price, I've been told. In addition to small aircraft, I'd love to learn > how to fly helicopters and other rotorcraft. Useful skills, those. Check out Flightgear in the meantime, it's pretty good and has terrain and airports for most of the world now. http://www.flightgear.org/ -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 21:40:55 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jun 4 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | > I'm inn NC. (I40 ~ exit 112) Where in VA to where in WV? (FWIW I also have a | > 7000# rated tandem trailer). | | New Martinsville, WV to Manassas, VA. Thanks for the offer. I do have | access to a trailer, but VA won't let us register them until one of us | has a license. And the bikes are covered under my mother-in-law's | insurance while they are on her property. So I figured it wasn't a big | deal until one of us actually got licensed. | Catch 22 --- can't register until you have the license but can't take the test until your bike is registered? Is it the same for other vehicles? From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Jun 4 21:47:00 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Jun 4 21:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | > > | > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend more | > > money overall because it is so easy to do. | > | > No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm a guy, | not a chick, for chrissakes! | | *narrows eyes at Indi* (again) Indi, watch out when her ears fold back... From heybub at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 22:33:25 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Sat Jun 4 22:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > In a nutshell, I'm going to be hooked. I didn't have enough stick > time of my own to be totally blown away, but it seems interesting > enough to sign up for at least a few 2-hour lessons in the > non-so-distant future. The fact that you can take out a loan and end > up only paying about 50 bucks per month is a really good deal. :) Cool. It's easy to get hooked. A few pointers: 1. Take your training at a controlled field. Learn at an uncontrolled field and you'll always be an uncontrolled-field pilot. I did my training at Houston Hobby and got over the intimidation of multiple frequencies and controllers (Ground, Traffic, Approach, Donut). You also get stuff like: "Houston, Cessna 123 on final." "Cessna 123, clear. Traffic is a 737 at 3 o'clock, 3 miles, for 27. Step it up." (Well, shit, the plane's already doing about 70! Just how fast does the tower think this thing can go?) 2. If God had wanted man to fly, He would have provided the answers to the FAA exam. Here's one tip: Cold fronts are marked with pointy-things [">"], warm fronts are marked with roundy-things [ ")" ]. Like nipples. 3. It's fun to practice stalls. Look below and see the cars going faster than you. 4. You'll have laughs. Like: "Houston approach, Citation 2242 inbound from Shreveport with Charlie." "2242 Clear. Dial 1200 and squawk ident." "Houston, 2242 - squawking." (pause) "2242, Houston. Positive radar contact. I have you 80 miles southwest of Hobby. Suggest 180." (pause) "You mean I missed the whole fuckin' city!" "2242. Evidently." 5. Some time ago a young lady - a student - checked out a plane, after work, from an FBO in LaPorte, a small town near Galveston Bay for an hour of solo drilling holes in the sky. Coming back, she discovered her field covered with fog. She radioed her base and her instructor told her to fly circles, he was on the way. About twenty minutes later, he broke through the clouds, found her, and told her to follow him - they were going to Hobby. Another twenty minutes and they found that Hobby, too, was below minimums. "Well, hell," the instructor said, "Let's go to Houston Intercontinental (now Bush Intercontinental - IAH)." Presently the instructor contacted IAH approach "with a flight of two Cessna 152s." IAH approach politely informed the instructor that IAH is a Type I Terminal Control Area ( http://avstop.com/AC/FlightTraingHandbook/TerminalControlAreas.html ) and to go away. By this time, it's dark. The instructor declared an emergency and the two planes landed on one of the 12,000-foot runways at Intercontinental. Now here's the interesting part: The student, who was, no doubt, frazzled by the whole episode, got credit for a night landing, landing at a controlled airfield, and a cross-country in her log book. Plus another three hours or so. 6. Get a copy of F. Lee Bailey's book, "In Defense of Flying." Full of flying stories - like his transition from naval aviator: on his civilian check ride he missed the runway! Yep, passed the far end at 300 feet in the air! Couldn't get the damn plane out of the sky. From heybub at gmail.com Sat Jun 4 22:37:45 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Sat Jun 4 22:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-61AA00.22323302062005@news.cesmail.net... >> It's against state law to bring liquor into the state without a >> permit from the Liquor Control Board. The permits are only issued to >> liquor wholesalers and liquor licensees (and only rarely to the >> latter). If a private citizen wants liquor, s/he is required to buy >> it from the state stores. > > For a 'free' country there sure are some draconian laws in place. Freedom - Democracy. Pick one. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sat Jun 4 20:41:43 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Sat Jun 4 22:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: In article <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca>, Paul Johnson wrote: > Check out Flightgear in the meantime, it's pretty good and has terrain and > airports for most of the world now. > > http://www.flightgear.org/ Interesting. Downloading now. I knew I bought this joystick for more than Battlefield 1942. Flying a chopper in that game is a Mighty Pain In The Posterior. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From baloo at ursine.ca Sun Jun 5 01:17:40 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sun Jun 5 04:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Liquor stores (was sumpin else) References: Message-ID: HeyBub wrote: >> For a 'free' country there sure are some draconian laws in place. > > Freedom - Democracy. Pick one. Well, California and Florida have proven that democracy doesn't work for us. Maybe freedom will... -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Sun Jun 5 01:18:15 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sun Jun 5 04:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > I knew I bought this joystick for more than Battlefield 1942. Flying a > chopper in that game is a Mighty Pain In The Posterior. Flying a chopper in general is a mighty pain. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 16:42:12 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 10:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966BCFFFB7AD0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Frog Prince" ! > >> http://www.big-boys.com/articles/donttouchmycar.html > > It's ok - Fiat is going broke selling crappy cars and they haven't sold > any > in this country in decades... You mean! They haven't sold any Ferraris or Maseratis??!!!??? Or Alfa Romeos, or Lancias?????? Iveco Trucks????? From nobody at spamcop.net Sun Jun 5 12:06:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Sun Jun 5 11:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d7regu$c90$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > have you tried reinstalling the operating system? Drastic but it might > work. > > doh! > LOL Great minds and all that..... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 17:05:43 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 11:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966C71D802F6CTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! >> "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns966BCFFFB7AD0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > >>> Fiat is going broke selling crappy cars and they haven't sold any >>> in this country in decades... >> >> You mean! They haven't sold any Ferraris or Maseratis??!!!??? Or Alfa >> Romeos, or Lancias?????? Iveco Trucks????? > > None of those are Fiat cars. Iveco sells, what, exactly? Alfas left here > about the time that Fiat did. I don't recall that Lancias were ever sold > here but even if they were they surely left when the Fiats did. Where was > I? And exotic cars don't count for squat. They're all Fiats! - Well part of the Fiat Group, anyway. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 18:25:24 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 12:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966C7A063671CTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! > >> They're all Fiats! - Well part of the Fiat Group, anyway. > > Part of the group, yes. Fiats? Not really. Heck, a Peugeot (was it > Peugeot? It doesn't really matter! But there's that factory that makes > both and the difference is the badge on the front.) is more of a Fiat than > a Ferrari or an Iveco is. Yeah, well..... It's a bit like Porsche.... Porsche don't actually *make* anything - they design things. It's actually VolksWagon that *make* the cars. Same with Fiat / Ferrari..... Brand names mean very little these days in terms of actual manufacture. It's all about badging....... Same as most other fields. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 19:57:48 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 14:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966C8B95D8143TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! > > Who's smokin' crack, now? Fiat does not make Ferraris. Peugeot (or > whoever - it is really unimportant) does make Fiats and it's not the same > thing at all, anyway. F and P are on the same level - neither owns the > other. They just built a factory together. Ferrari is a wholy owned > subsidiary of Fiat. Nothing going on there about equals. Or of building > the same car for both in one factory. Or even of a Ferrari being Fiat- > built. Sheesh. What's up, dude? No, wait, consensus building. Find > common ground. How about this, "I couldn't care spitless so just go on > and > write believe whatever you want and I'll give you all of the credit?" > Wow! Thanks man. You're so kind. http://www.fiatgroup.com/home.php?lang=en Under "Sectors and Products" drop-down list in the left-hand column, you'll see that their "brands" include Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, Ferrari & Maserati (there's no Peugeot in there anywhere - the Peugeot thing is Peugeot/Citroen by the way). Whichever way you want to convolute it, the factory that makes Ferraris is owned by Fiat -> Ergo, Fiat make Ferraris (whether you like it or not is irrelevant). From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 20:59:30 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! Message-ID: Well, not much of a surprise actually, with their less than 2% market share set to get even smaller... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050604/80/fkepw.html From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 21:11:25 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966C98B9AA96ATheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! > >> Wow! Thanks man. You're so kind. > > Any time. > > >> http://www.fiatgroup.com/home.php?lang=en >> >> Under "Sectors and Products" drop-down list in the left-hand column, >> you'll see that their "brands" include Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, >> Ferrari & Maserati (there's no Peugeot in there anywhere - the Peugeot >> thing is Peugeot/Citroen by the way). Whichever way you want to >> convolute it, the factory that makes Ferraris is owned by Fiat -> >> Ergo, Fiat make Ferraris (whether you like it or not is irrelevant). > > I couldn't care spitless so just go on and write believe whatever you want > and I'll give you all of the credit. > > The factory is owned be Fiat. The cars are not made by Fiat. Try to tell > any Ferrari owner that they're driving a Fiat. So, what's your trip? Hmm.... The factory is owned by Fiat, the workforce is employed by fiat, the robots that assemble the cars are owned by Fiat............... but the cars are not made by Fiat??!!?? Sorry. Don't quite follow the logic there... > > For one. For another, abviously P/C are the same. I'm OBVIOUSLY not > talking about that. "There are also some interesting joint ventures such > as Sevelnord, which is a PSA/Flat complex for producing minivans and light > utility vehicles. With an output of 800 vehicles per day, it is claimed to > be the only plant in Europe producing seven different cars on the same > line." Ah yes! but don't forget to mention that those seven different cars aren't made by them (they just own the factory) but by the seven different brands! Splorf! Or are you saying that the robots make 'em? Which would kinda be true I s'pose....... From aunt.jemima at pancake.box Sun Jun 5 16:40:27 2005 From: aunt.jemima at pancake.box (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Sun Jun 5 15:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Straight from Winter to Summer Message-ID: Where did spring go? It went from the 50's to the 80's overnite! --- Announcing "Thong Central" http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0522-15, 06/05/2005 Tested on: 6/5/2005 3:40:27 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sun Jun 5 21:36:54 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Sun Jun 5 15:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966C9DDFFCB15TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! >> "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns966C98B9AA96ATheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > >> Sorry. Don't quite follow the logic there... > > Oh well! > > > > Robots build the cars. 2 of the seven cars (at least) are identical > except > for the badge on the front. This is having someone else make your car. > Ferrari is a subsidiary of Fiat. So, obviously, Ferrari belongs to Fiat > and so does their factory. Whatever. The factory, the FERRARI FACTORY, > produces Ferraris. Exclusively. Not Fiats. Who cares who owns the > company - the cars are not Fiats. Do you go around calling Airbus planes > DASA products? I mean, DASA owns 'em (at least a chunk). Give me a > break. > And, getting back to brand identification, no one who drives or purchases > a > Ferrari associates the car in any way, shape or form with Fiat. Why do > you > think that is? EGO! From baloo at ursine.ca Sun Jun 5 14:15:38 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sun Jun 5 17:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was Paul Johnson ! > >> Check out Flightgear in the meantime, it's pretty good and has terrain >> and airports for most of the world now. > > Pretty good? As opposed to what? Any other flight sim out there. Some schools use it as a ground trainer. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From borgholio at storymind.com Sun Jun 5 16:19:13 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Sun Jun 5 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: GregR wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >> Both. > > > Anything in flight, other than straight and level? Just curious what you > get on those "intro" certificates. > > And I guess you found out the real thing is a *little* more complicated > than FliteSim, eh?.... ;-) Pretty much straight and level. I couldn't get a feel for how easy / difficult it was because the instructor never took his hands off the controls. > Did your instructor show you how well the plane flies hands-off? Yeah and I was rather impresses. :) > >> I used Vista. > > > You might want to call Sunquest and see if they've got 152s available. Cheaper? From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Mon Jun 6 00:23:37 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Sun Jun 5 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. Message-ID: It's just been announced on the media that the UK government is now seriously considering road pricing by the mile in the UK within 10 years. Cost at present is estimated at ?1.30 per mile! That means that the job I had a few years ago working in historic gardens in the country for which I got ?120 per week would cost me ?300 per week to get to. OK, wages have gone up, but, estimating the wage for that job ten years hence I would still be paying ?100 per week more than I earn just on road pricing before gas is taken into account. My present job is driving private hire mini buses. We often take people into the City on week ends for venues at around ?85 per return journey which they are satisfied with and we are one of the cheapest firms doing it. If road pricing comes in the same trips would cost over ?100 more and I cannot see people affording it except occasionally, but, we would not be able to survive for occasional journeys. A trip from where I live in S Wales would cost there and back around ?400 plus fuel, that's more than it costs to fly to the US or Egypt and about the same as flying from UK to India. I could go on with the statistics, but, consider this. If the government are doing this to reduce road use for pollution reasons (environmentally friendly) would it not be sensible to create a mass transport system first and use such things as road tax and fuel tax to fund it? Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail links etc. gone? No, this looks very much like a plan for the rich to have open roads as they could afford it and to hell with everyone else...and it will really be *hell*. Time to make serious plans to leave this country, the dogs have taken over. Rob From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sun Jun 5 21:17:16 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sun Jun 5 20:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > Well, not much of a surprise actually, with their less than 2% market share > set to get even smaller... > > http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050604/80/fkepw.html No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations of this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple product, or Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips that are currently used in Macs. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Jun 5 22:42:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Jun 5 21:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Secret Worlds - From FSU ...secure site..fascinating References: Message-ID: Secret Worlds: The Universe Within View the Milky Way at 10 million light years from the Earth. Then move through space towards the Earth in successive orders of magnitude until you reach a tall oak tree just outside the buildings of the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, Florida. After that, begin to move from the actual size of a leaf into a microscopic world that reveals leaf cell walls, the cell nucleus, chromatin, DNA and finally, into the subatomic universe of electrons and protons. http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html From baloo at ursine.ca Sun Jun 5 20:07:17 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Sun Jun 5 22:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was Paul Johnson ! >> Charles wrote: >>> No way it was me! It was Paul Johnson ! >>> >>>> Check out Flightgear in the meantime, it's pretty good > >>> Pretty good? As opposed to what? > >> Any other flight sim out there. Some schools use it as a ground trainer. > > Your statements are not, of course, related. But, anyway, it doesn't look > like you've used many other flight sims. You know, I think that the one I > used to have on my C64 was better than FG. And it loaded (from a tape) > and ran a lot quicker, too. Toy with the display settings. It looks beautiful on my system. Used to use MS Flight Sim, but just wasn't worth the price when I could get better for free... -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From heybub at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 22:32:48 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Sun Jun 5 22:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: > I could go on with the statistics, but, consider this. If the > government are doing this to reduce road use for pollution reasons > (environmentally friendly) would it not be sensible to create a mass > transport system first and use such things as road tax and fuel tax to > fund it? Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail > links etc. gone? Anytime someone says: "It's for the environment...," or "It's for the children...," it's not. Don't be logical - look elsewhere for the real agenda. As a first approximation, I'd suggest the government wants more of your money. Move to Florida. Your total tax load (everything) should not exceed 30-35% of your salary. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Sun Jun 5 22:10:15 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Jun 6 00:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Foot surgery! Message-ID: Ah, the day has finally arrived. After over a year of constant foot pain after an injury suffered in the army, I'm getting surgery done tomorrow. I'll probably be in no mood to chat for a week or so afterward (and doped up on painkillers enough that I'd probably be illegible). Wish me luck! -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 00:48:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon Jun 6 02:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Pretty much straight and level. I couldn't get a feel for how easy / > difficult it was because the instructor never took his hands off the > controls. Oh yeah? Must have been a relatively-new instructor, I remember on my first lesson mine turned the plane over to me right after we cleared the runway on takeoff (aim for that spot out near the horizon, keep the nose up, right rudder, and maintain 70 (MPH - we hadn't changed over to KTS back then)). > Yeah and I was rather impresses. :) Keep that in mind, and don't go blabbing it around if you want to impress non-pilots with how "good" you can fly. :-) > Cheaper? I would say by probably $20/hour or so. -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 00:50:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (GregR) Date: Mon Jun 6 02:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Foot surgery! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > I'll probably be in no mood to chat for a week or so afterward (and > doped up on painkillers enough that I'd probably be illegible). To say nothing of the possibility of putting your foot in your mouth... ;-) -- GregR - Another Beemer Biker ...o&o> From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:30:20 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 07:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7pqjj$fr2$1@news.spamcop.net: >> > > I got a rental Mustang a few years back, I barely fit in it -- a very > cramped interior for a 6'2" guy. > > And you play golf too? You play with an extension on your golf clubs? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:33:34 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 07:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d7quhp$430$1 @news.spamcop.net: > LOL@carpetbombed... ain't that the truth > > I still rub it in the faces of my siblings that the worst it ever gets here is rainfall. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:36:58 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 07:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:d7pkj4$ccm$1@news.spamcop.net: > > No, but your wedding attire threatened to look like a very flash Mr. > Peanut... > > Couldn't get the suit in time.. but I did have a lavender vest and tie. Both families were surprised at how good it looked. (My sense of style just works on the level of "in".. Haw!) :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:38:48 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 07:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Foot surgery! References: Message-ID: GregR wrote in news:d80rn3$7ob$2@news.spamcop.net: > > To say nothing of the possibility of putting your foot in your > mouth... ;-) > That might be a result of the drugs.. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 12:39:45 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 07:40:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Foot surgery! References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote in news:pete+usenet- 158534.21101505062005@news.cesmail.net: > Ah, the day has finally arrived. After over a year of constant foot pain > after an injury suffered in the army, I'm getting surgery done tomorrow. > > I'll probably be in no mood to chat for a week or so afterward (and > doped up on painkillers enough that I'd probably be illegible). > > Wish me luck! > Good luck Pete. We'll all sign your foot cast when you get back.. virtually of course. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:00:00 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: "Canopus" wrote in news:d801hp$oap$1@news.spamcop.net: > I could go on with the statistics, but, consider this. If the > government are doing this to reduce road use for pollution reasons > (environmentally friendly) would it not be sensible to create a mass > transport system first and use such things as road tax and fuel tax to > fund it? Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail > links etc. gone? > > No, this looks very much like a plan for the rich to have open roads > as they could afford it and to hell with everyone else...and it will > really be *hell*. > > Time to make serious plans to leave this country, the dogs have taken > over. > > Rob California considered something similar as a means of bringing in more revenue. (Environment? What environment.) Their reasoning is that people are paying less gas taxes because of the "more" efficient cars. (Even though all I see is SUVs left and right here.) Needless to say that it really won't go through the state capitol. California has a near non-existent mass transit system and unless they want a revolt, this will stay a dead issue. (My round trip distance to work is 60 miles.) They're aleady having a difficult enough time trying to expand the current system with what little ridership they have. (Their fares are WAY too high. Heck, in Boston you can go anywhere in and around the metro area for a little more than $1.) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:00:34 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in news:d7vkf7$h0s$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Where did spring go? It went from the 50's to the 80's overnite! > > > Depends on where you are. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:02:56 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in news:dfm2a3l0t2-4E0C04.20171605062005@news.cesmail.net: > No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations > of this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple > product, or Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips > that are currently used in Macs. Though it would be funny if the new Macs end up being Windows compatible. :-) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 09:06:24 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--prostitution-octo 0605jun05,0,4090923,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:13:03 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote in news:d7r2o5$6dk$1@news.spamcop.net: > I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 > seconds and you'll know what I mean. > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.htm l Reminds me of a what a spammer does when their connection gets pulled. :-) But one will notice that her continued yammering was meant to create a scene. With everything that this gal did along with a suspended driver's license.. she is indeed a trouble maker. I believe that officers get tasered themselves to show what it is like to be tasered before being issued one. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Mon Jun 6 13:24:12 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d7q60b$mpn$1@news.spamcop.net: > Click on the "video" button at the top of the article. That Jennifer > Wilbanks photo that everyone has seen does no justice to how her > eyeballs bug out of her head, it's so weird it looks like they're > ready to pop out! Oh, and just for you Redstone, a couple of other > things pop out quite nicely ;-) > > http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S8588.html?cat=87 > > > Fake boobies I tell you! But anyone catch the tight pants with pantylines on that granny? Reminds me of a Cheech Marin moment.. "Look at d'em buns on d'em nuns!" But after a thought of the fake bounce-bounceys.. I was thinking of a new invention. A bra with cup holders.. what do you think? I think it'll be a must have for all working gals out there who need their morning lattes. (No milk puns please.) ;-D From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Jun 6 06:46:45 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: In article , Redstone wrote: > I believe that officers get tasered themselves to show what it is like > to be tasered before being issued one. Let's just hope the same thing doesn't apply for their service pistol. :-P In the army, we got tear-gassed repeatedly, and had to run through the chamber once or twice. Now THAT is an experience I'd just as soon not have done. *shudder* If I think about it, I can still taste it...yuck. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Jun 6 06:47:00 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Jun 6 08:50:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: In article , Redstone wrote: > Though it would be funny if the new Macs end up being Windows compatible. > :-) ...or would it be the other way around? ;) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 10:02:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 09:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message news:d7vkf7$h0s$1@news.spamcop.net... > Where did spring go? It went from the 50's to the 80's overnite! > ....and in New England, back to winter again today, or at least back to May, the month from Hell..... From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 6 15:55:52 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 10:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns966D335F29F7Ftinlc@216.154.195.61... > "D.F. Manno" wrote in > news:dfm2a3l0t2-4E0C04.20171605062005@news.cesmail.net: > > >> No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations >> of this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple >> product, or Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips >> that are currently used in Macs. > > > Though it would be funny if the new Macs end up being Windows compatible. > :-) Well, they'd have a greater selection of available software, for sure........ From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 6 15:58:23 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 10:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-4E0C04.20171605062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> Well, not much of a surprise actually, with their less than 2% market >> share >> set to get even smaller... >> >> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050604/80/fkepw.html > > No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations of > this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple product, or > Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips that are > currently used in Macs. Hmmmm... Yeah right... I can just see IBM licencing a competitor to manufacture their CPUs for them for such a small niche market. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 6 16:00:14 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 10:10:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-3AA6A3.05470006062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > Redstone wrote: > >> Though it would be funny if the new Macs end up being Windows compatible. >> :-) > > ...or would it be the other way around? ;) > Hmmmm.... let's see............. 98% change to be compatible with the other 2%..... or............ 2% change to become compatible with the other 98%............??? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jun 6 12:31:20 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jun 6 11:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations of > > this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple product, or > > Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips that are > > currently used in Macs. > > Hmmmm... Yeah right... I can just see IBM licencing a competitor to > manufacture their CPUs for them for such a small niche market. Apple is a co-developer of the Power PC chips along with Motorola and IBM. Motorola no longer manufactures them, and there have been enough problems with IBM's production of the chips that Apple probably has grounds to terminate the contract. As for Apple being "such a small niche market," don't be so quick to unquestioningly swallow the market share numbers. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam Mon Jun 6 12:32:24 2005 From: noah.boddie at newsgroup.nospam (Dwayne Conyers) Date: Mon Jun 6 11:35:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d81ebp$ior$1@news.spamcop.net... > June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT > > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they busted > the > alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August Playmates": the woman > running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. Waste of taxpayer money... -- The Whip Company We don't make whips. We whip ass... http://www.cafepress.com/dwacon/493340 From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 6 18:41:26 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 12:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-B65B08.11312006062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> "D.F. Manno" wrote in message >> >> > No, Macs are _not_ going to become PCs. The most logical explanations >> > of >> > this are either that Intel chips will be used in a new Apple product, >> > or >> > Intel will be licensed to manufacture the Power PC chips that are >> > currently used in Macs. >> >> Hmmmm... Yeah right... I can just see IBM licencing a competitor to >> manufacture their CPUs for them for such a small niche market. > > Apple is a co-developer of the Power PC chips along with Motorola and > IBM. Motorola no longer manufactures them, and there have been enough > problems with IBM's production of the chips that Apple probably has > grounds to terminate the contract. > > As for Apple being "such a small niche market," don't be so quick to > unquestioningly swallow the market share numbers. Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see......... http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/17302/17302.html Particular attention to the last paragraph..... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:11:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: As you progress, your > training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from > here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for calling it "cross-country flight"? :-P From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:16:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Breathe of Bite? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Dwayne Conyers" wrote in message > news:d7q8ob$oea$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > I can't get my laptop to shut down normally -- it sits forever in > > some frozen state and has to be cold booted by either holding down > > the button or yanking it out of the docking station and pulling the > > battery out. A lot of program settings seem to get lost and I have > > a ritual of restoring them each day -- but sometimes I forget... > > have you tried reinstalling the operating system? Drastic but it > might work. Sounds more like a registry problem to me, he should try cleaning that up first. Lots of freeware/shareware out there to do that, I'd recommend Registry Mechanic (one month free trial and the ability to "undo" the changes). From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:27:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: DF's booze problem (was Crazy Ebay Mom) References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Well, I've seen my friends drive. They wouldn't be able to deal > > with the traffic or the small streets. > > They *could* come by other means! But taking the subway and then having to walk thru what must feel to them like downtown Baghdad would be even scarier to them, I'd think. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:29:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:30:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "Frog Prince" ! > > > http://www.big-boys.com/articles/donttouchmycar.html > > It's ok - Fiat is going broke selling crappy cars and they haven't > sold any in this country in decades... Fix It Again Tony ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:34:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > > Hmm.... The factory is owned by Fiat, the workforce is employed by > fiat, the robots that assemble the cars are owned by > Fiat............... but the cars are not made by Fiat??!!?? > > Sorry. Don't quite follow the logic there... Who's name in on the paycheck the workers get? I'll bet you 1000 quatloos it ain't Fiat. > Ah yes! but don't forget to mention that those seven different cars > aren't made by them (they just own the factory) but by the seven > different brands! Splorf! Splorf! Indeed......I do believe you just contradicted your own argument! From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 11:38:47 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > As you progress, your > >>training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from >>here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). > > > Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for calling it > "cross-country flight"? :-P > > Not if it's a big state. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:39:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey Indi References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > What a dumb question -- of course I did! Poor Kimi, your heart just > > had to break when his front suspension exploded with one lap to > > go...... > > Oh I wasn't too sorry. They should have come in and they gambled and > it didn't pay off. No race driver in the world would have come in and give up the chance to win. Guys would rather wreck or run out of gas trying to win than wimp out (be safe but finish off the podium). If the flat spotted tire had happened earlier, with enough laps remaining to give Alonso a good chase, it would have been different. But not 6-7 laps from the end. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:50:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 13:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d7q0s0$jfp$3@news.spamcop.net... > > Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course > test, then > > tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. > > choppers look inherently dangerous to me, hell they're downright > stupid But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:57:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > > Charles wrote: > >> > >> Airbus is there, no? > > > > Why the hell would a conglomerate European aircraft manufacturer > > have a plant in Arizona? > > Engineers, dude. And, well, you go where there's talent, eh? Or > something like that. I mean, talent is global, and they've found > some inexpensive talent in the desert. Like, whatever, you know? Their new hire non-disclosure agreement must be a bitch...... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 14:58:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:00:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d7quhp$430$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > > LOL@carpetbombed... ain't that the truth > > > > > > I still rub it in the faces of my siblings that the worst it ever > gets here is rainfall. :-) And the following land/mudslides, hmmmm? Laguna Beach ring a bell? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:02:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7pq3n$fdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > > > > Do you do a lot of miles annually? > > > > Normally 18-20 K miles per year, so 5 year loan = 100k miles = time > > for a new car. > > that's quite a lot of miles... we're lucky to do 6k a year You don't have family living in another state that you visit often, I assume? Or drive sometimes long distances to golf either....let alone 4-6 golf trips to the beach and mountains like we do every year. Heck, I drive about 300 miles per week just going back and forth to work and normal running around! That's almost 15k miles right there. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:02:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7pq9b$fjh$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Charles wrote: > > > > > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend > > > more money overall because it is so easy to do. > > > > No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm a > > guy, not a chick, for chrissakes! > > *narrows eyes at Indi* (again) Plllbbbbttt! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:02:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Sylvesterthekat" > | > > > | > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend > | > > more money overall because it is so easy to do. > | > > | > No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm > | > a guy, not a chick, for chrissakes! > | > | *narrows eyes at Indi* (again) > > Indi, watch out when her ears fold back... And the fur on her back sticks up too? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:05:05 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:d7pqjj$fr2$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >> > > > > I got a rental Mustang a few years back, I barely fit in it -- a > > very cramped interior for a 6'2" guy. > > > > > > And you play golf too? You play with an extension on your golf clubs? No, got custom fitted last year for a set of clubs. Anyway, most off the shelf clubs are ok for anyone from about 5'8" to 6' ish, you just have adjust your grip and/or stance a tad. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:11:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: Dwayne Conyers wrote: > Where did spring go? It went from the 50's to the 80's overnite! > > Try 90's! And my air conditioner fan motor froze up yesterday, great timing. Luckily I got a Trane dealer to come out and fix it within a couple of hours ($450 for the new motor and a partial freon fillup, don't ask how much extra it cost for a weekend repair because I don't know and didn't WANT to know). I was smart enough to notice that the airco wasn't working right and went outside to check the unit, saw that the fan wasn't moving but heard the compressor working. If I wouldn't have been home.....there woulda been a fried compressor and gawd knows how many $$$ thousands to replace the whole thing! The newspaper ad I got the dealer's phone number from was offering a $1000 rebate on new air conditioners, so one can imagine........ From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:15:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > > > Fake boobies I tell you! How can you tell without seeing them nekkid? Reminds me of Teri Hatcher's turn on that "Seinfeld" episode ;-) Back before she starved herself to death and lost her boobs *and* ass.....what a shame...... From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 12:17:18 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >>"Borgholio" wrote in message >>news:d7q0s0$jfp$3@news.spamcop.net... >> > Ask someone with a chopper if they can do the obstacle course >>test, then >> >>>tell them they're too dangerous to ride the bike in the first place. >> >>choppers look inherently dangerous to me, hell they're downright >>stupid > > > But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) > > I got sick of it after the first season. All they ever do is fight. If Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. just STFU and worked together for a little bit, they'd get so much more done. On another note, American Hot Rod sucks even more ass. The constant short deadlines and rush jobs that Boyd forces on his crew are nuts. I don't understand how they can keep working there. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:18:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:20:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > I SO want to beat the hell out of this woman. Just listen for 15 > seconds and you'll know what I mean. > > http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html Cop: Ma'am please step out of the vehicle Idiot Woman: I'm talking on the phone! What a maroon! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:22:34 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Canopus wrote: Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail > links etc. gone? Do you have any idea how expensive those kinds of systems are per passenger mile? Outrageous! There is no mass-transit system in the world that can expand without huge government subsidies, and most systems can't be self sufficient using what they've already got to start with.....raise the fares and ridership drops like a rock, keep the fares at a reasonable price and you can't afford the track and vehicle maintainance costs. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:27:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:30:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: HeyBub wrote: > > Move to Florida. Your total tax load (everything) should not exceed > 30-35% of your salary. If you're single and making over $70K your fed tax rate is already at 30%, medicare/SS taxes are 7.2%, so what you sead above is a dream, or a wish, not a fact. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:35:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > LOL. I don't like Papa John's either. I generally don't like any of > the chains' pizzas. I prefer them from a real pizzeria but > unfortunately our favourite one recently closed down which was a real > bummer. I'm lucky to have a small local pizzeria chain almost right next door to my workplace -- started and owned by real Italians. When I got back to work from my surgery the first day, I made a beeline to the place for two slices of pepperoni -- manna from heaven. I noticed the previous manager was gone, and so was the old cashier, replaced by two nice Italian gentleman. When I asked them where the old manager was, the one guy answered (no joke) " He's-a swimmin' with the feeshes" . Thinking that he was joking, I pressed him again -- this time he said "he got greedy, now he's gone". I'm pretty sure they caught the two folks skimming profits, but I'm also pretty sure didn't take care of him Tony Soprano style.....but I would *not* be surprised that major bodily pain was inflicted! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:39:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:40:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d7pr2e$g38$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Not a big chocolate lover, or any candy or sweets for that matter. > I only > > nibble on frozen Hershey's Dark Chocolate on occasion. > > *barf* > > Hershey's isn't chocolate. When you're born and raised 1/2 hour from the plant, it's the ONLY chocolate! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:39:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:40:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > indigo wrote: > > Borgholio wrote: > > As you progress, your > > > >>training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from > >>here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). > > > > > > Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for > > calling it "cross-country flight"? :-P > > > > > > Not if it's a big state. :) Then call it "cross-county"! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:42:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) > > > > > > I got sick of it after the first season. All they ever do is fight. > If Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. just STFU and worked together for a little > bit, they'd get so much more done. But the bickering is the best part! Especially when Paul Sr. gets so worked up he just starts shouting out syllables instead of complete words ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:38:28 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d823ku$ube$1@news.spamcop.net... | | | Dwayne Conyers wrote: | > Where did spring go? It went from the 50's to the 80's overnite! | > | > | | Try 90's! And my air conditioner fan motor froze up yesterday, great timing. | Luckily I got a Trane dealer to come out and fix it within a couple of hours | ($450 for the new motor and a partial freon fillup, don't ask how much extra | it cost for a weekend repair because I don't know and didn't WANT to know). | I was smart enough to notice that the airco wasn't working right and went | outside to check the unit, saw that the fan wasn't moving but heard the | compressor working. If I wouldn't have been home.....there woulda been a | fried compressor and gawd knows how many $$$ thousands to replace the whole | thing! The newspaper ad I got the dealer's phone number from was offering a | $1000 rebate on new air conditioners, so one can imagine........ It sometime pays long term to replace the entire unit. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 15:46:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d8203e$sc0$1@news.spamcop.net... | | | Borgholio wrote: | As you progress, your | > training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from | > here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). | | Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for calling it | "cross-country flight"? :-P Depends on the state. Some parts of Texas are 900 miles apart. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 12:48:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 14:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>>But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) >>> >>> >> >>I got sick of it after the first season. All they ever do is fight. >>If Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. just STFU and worked together for a little >>bit, they'd get so much more done. > > > But the bickering is the best part! Especially when Paul Sr. gets so worked > up he just starts shouting out syllables instead of complete words ;-) > > Bah. Just build the damn bikes. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:04:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > indigo wrote: > > Borgholio wrote: > > > >>>But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I got sick of it after the first season. All they ever do is fight. > >>If Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. just STFU and worked together for a little > >>bit, they'd get so much more done. > > > > > > But the bickering is the best part! Especially when Paul Sr. gets > > so worked up he just starts shouting out syllables instead of > > complete words ;-) > > > > > > Bah. Just build the damn bikes. :) It's part of the artistic process. Paul Jr. said so himself (no pressure means no challenge). From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:05:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > It sometime pays long term to replace the entire unit. I keep hoping that I'm not going to be in this house for "the long term"......thought that when I bought it, and 12 years later.....well, one can still hope, eh? ;-) From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 16:20:13 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (Deborah) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] It's sad, really Message-ID: 1. The most interesting thing that's happened to me in the past 2 weeks is discovering a new flavor of Altoids - ginger. Love 'em! B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( C. Finally saw Star Wars III at a local theater. Enjoyed it....but...did she REALLY call him "Annie"??? I haven't laughed so hard at a nickname since Constanze called Mozart "Wulfie" in Amadeus. 4. And, pardon me for saying so, but if Obiwan was such a great friend and loved Anakin so much, why didn't he kill him mercifully instead of leaving him to burn in agony on the ground while he told him how much like a brother he was? Of course, that would've been a bit of a problem, since Lucas had already made Episodes IV, V and VI...Ooops! E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and many more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far at all from where we were 40 years ago: http://tinyurl.com/cw462 -- D-LO From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 13:24:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>indigo wrote: >> >>>Borgholio wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>But "American Chopper" is still a great show ;-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I got sick of it after the first season. All they ever do is fight. >>>>If Paul Sr. and Paul Jr. just STFU and worked together for a little >>>>bit, they'd get so much more done. >>> >>> >>>But the bickering is the best part! Especially when Paul Sr. gets >>>so worked up he just starts shouting out syllables instead of >>>complete words ;-) >>> >>> >> >>Bah. Just build the damn bikes. :) > > > It's part of the artistic process. Paul Jr. said so himself (no pressure > means no challenge). > > Guess that explains why he puts up with it. :) From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jun 6 16:28:07 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > Apple is a co-developer of the Power PC chips along with Motorola and > > IBM. Motorola no longer manufactures them, and there have been enough > > problems with IBM's production of the chips that Apple probably has > > grounds to terminate the contract. > > > > As for Apple being "such a small niche market," don't be so quick to > > unquestioningly swallow the market share numbers. > > Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see......... > > http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/17302/17302.html > > Particular attention to the last paragraph..... Particular attention to the date: 1997. Things have changed since then. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jun 6 16:30:16 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT > > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they busted the > alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August Playmates": the woman > running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. I hope she wasn't providing the services as well. -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 13:33:28 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:35:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Deborah wrote: > 1. The most interesting thing that's happened to me in the past 2 weeks > is discovering a new flavor of Altoids - ginger. Love 'em! Bleh. :) > > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( Merry Birthday! If you didn't want to talk about it, why mention it? So how old are you now...28? 29? > > C. Finally saw Star Wars III at a local theater. Enjoyed > it....but...did she REALLY call him "Annie"??? I haven't laughed so > hard at a nickname since Constanze called Mozart "Wulfie" in Amadeus. It explains why he went over to the Dark Side. :) > > 4. And, pardon me for saying so, but if Obiwan was such a great friend > and loved Anakin so much, why didn't he kill him mercifully instead of > leaving him to burn in agony on the ground while he told him how much > like a brother he was? Of course, that would've been a bit of a > problem, since Lucas had already made Episodes IV, V and VI...Ooops! Couldn't bring himself to do the finishing blow. Think about Luke vs Vader in Episode 6. Although the reason behind the two fights are different, neither Luke nor Obi Wan can "finish" it. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:40:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: Deborah wrote: > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( > happy b-day! How old are you? How o-old are you? ;-) > 4. And, pardon me for saying so, but if Obiwan was such a great > friend and loved Anakin so much, why didn't he kill him mercifully > instead of leaving him to burn in agony on the ground while he told > him how much like a brother he was? Of course, that would've been a > bit of a problem, since Lucas had already made Episodes IV, V and > VI...Ooops! AHEM...some of us have not actually gotten around to seeing it yet! Oops is right! > > E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and > many more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far > at all from where we were 40 years ago: > http://tinyurl.com/cw462 That blows donkey snot. And this statement below has it backwards, if you ask me -- "popular opinion" is what's driving the politicians and courts to keep medical maryjane illegal, not the other way around. "The director of National Drug Control Policy, John Walters, was pleased by the ruling. "Our national medical system relies on proven scientific research, not popular opinion," he told The Associated Press. "To date, science and research have not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or effective." From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:35:36 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Deborah" wrote in message news:d827s1$1hs$1@news.spamcop.net... | 1. The most interesting thing that's happened to me in the past 2 weeks | is discovering a new flavor of Altoids - ginger. Love 'em! | | B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be | po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( | | C. Finally saw Star Wars III at a local theater. Enjoyed | it....but...did she REALLY call him "Annie"??? I haven't laughed so | hard at a nickname since Constanze called Mozart "Wulfie" in Amadeus. | | 4. And, pardon me for saying so, but if Obiwan was such a great friend | and loved Anakin so much, why didn't he kill him mercifully instead of | leaving him to burn in agony on the ground while he told him how much | like a brother he was? Of course, that would've been a bit of a | problem, since Lucas had already made Episodes IV, V and VI...Ooops! | | E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and many | more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far at all | from where we were 40 years ago: | http://tinyurl.com/cw462 | | So you're over 40 are you? Happy b day regardless BTW there is an alternative to growing old ... die young. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:44:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > > > It's part of the artistic process. Paul Jr. said so himself (no > > pressure means no challenge). > > > > > > Guess that explains why he puts up with it. :) I'd like to know how much cash Jr. and Sr. are raking in.....Sr. is a millionaire, I know, but what's he paying Paulie? Or Mikey? Actually, having seen Mikey's batchelor pad on a show or two, my guess is he ain't making much......but without Jr., senior wouldn't have that huge custom bike business. And I know that some of those choppers they build sell for $150-200K! For a couple weeks of work! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:45:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT > > > > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they > > busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August > > Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old > > grandmother. > > I hope she wasn't providing the services as well. I'm sure there are deviates out there that would pay for the privilege....... From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 13:50:39 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 15:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>>It's part of the artistic process. Paul Jr. said so himself (no >>>pressure means no challenge). >>> >>> >> >>Guess that explains why he puts up with it. :) > > > I'd like to know how much cash Jr. and Sr. are raking in.....Sr. is a > millionaire, I know, but what's he paying Paulie? Or Mikey? Actually, having > seen Mikey's batchelor pad on a show or two, my guess is he ain't making > much......but without Jr., senior wouldn't have that huge custom bike > business. And I know that some of those choppers they build sell for > $150-200K! For a couple weeks of work! > > Well Sr. was building bikes for years before Jr. came in...but yeah, Jr. pretty much runs the creative part of it now. He BETTER be paid well. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:45:03 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "indigo" | That blows donkey snot. And this statement below has it backwards, if you | ask me -- "popular opinion" is what's driving the politicians and courts to | keep medical marijuana illegal, not the other way around. | | "The director of National Drug Control Policy, John Walters, was pleased by | the ruling. "Our national medical system relies on proven scientific | research, not popular opinion," he told The Associated Press. "To date, | science and research have not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or | effective." Self fulfilling. Feds don't effectively fund research on the medical application of marijuana. Kinda like stem cell research 'there will be no productive results' because we won't allow it. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:56:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Well Sr. was building bikes for years before Jr. came in...but yeah, > Jr. pretty much runs the creative part of it now. He BETTER be paid > well. Based on the looks of his blonde bimbo g/f I expect he *does* get his fair share ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:59:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:00:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Deborah" wrote in message news:d827s1$1hs$1@news.spamcop.net... > 1. The most interesting thing that's happened to me in the past 2 weeks > is discovering a new flavor of Altoids - ginger. Love 'em! They are good, still looking for the Altoids gum that's supposed to be so good..... > > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( Well happy birthday - but don't talk about it - they are best ignored, really...... > > E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and many > more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far at all > from where we were 40 years ago: > http://tinyurl.com/cw462 Sadly, given the jackass who's appointing all the new judges, doesn't look too promising for the future either.......and now a little song for you.... "Happy Birthday....Happy Birthday....Grief, misery and despair...People dying everywhere...Happy Birthday...Happy Birthdaaaaay....." (forgive the little trip down memory lane, I figured it was better than, 'You look like a monkey, and you smell like one too....) :) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:02:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82591$vhj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > When you're born and raised 1/2 hour from the plant, it's the ONLY > chocolate! They're good for s'mores, that's about it! From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:00:46 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:05:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d828e8$1tj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Deborah wrote: > > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( > > Merry Birthday! If you didn't want to talk about it, why mention it? Cause how can you wish me a happy one if I don't? >So > how old are you now...28? 29? > Somewhere around there ;-) > > > > C. Finally saw Star Wars III at a local theater. Enjoyed > > it....but...did she REALLY call him "Annie"??? I haven't laughed so > > hard at a nickname since Constanze called Mozart "Wulfie" in Amadeus. > > It explains why he went over to the Dark Side. :) > Heh - that'd do it for sure! -- D-LO From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:02:33 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d828v1$2n3$1@news.spamcop.net... > | E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and many > | more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far at all > | from where we were 40 years ago: > | http://tinyurl.com/cw462 > | > | > So you're over 40 are you? Happy b day regardless > > BTW there is an alternative to growing old ... die young. > > I'm not good enough for that. :-D -- D-LO From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:07:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "indigo" > | "The director of National Drug Control Policy, John Walters, was > | pleased by the ruling. "Our national medical system relies on > | proven scientific research, not popular opinion," he told The > | Associated Press. "To date, science and research have not > | determined that smoking marijuana is safe or effective." > > Self fulfilling. Feds don't effectively fund research on the medical > application of marijuana. You got that right on the nose. No one _honestly_ state that it's not useful for quite a lot of patients suffering from various diseases. "Safe" is a hard thing to quantify in this case -- you are treating one problem but may be creating another -- which is no different than any agressive chemical or radioactive based "standard" treatment in my mind > > Kinda like stem cell research 'there will be no productive results' > because we won't allow it. Thank $diety for the South Koreans.....the groundswell is growing to overturn the shrubs religious-based rejection of fed funding on this..... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:09:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d82591$vhj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > When you're born and raised 1/2 hour from the plant, it's the ONLY > > chocolate! > > They're good for s'mores, that's about it! Pllllbbtttt! For a guy who eats maybe 2-4 ounces of chocolate in an entire year, who cares what kind it is......as long as it's Hershey's dark chocolate ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:14:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82ai3$44o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Pllllbbtttt! For a guy who eats maybe 2-4 ounces of chocolate in an entire > year, who cares what kind it is......as long as it's Hershey's dark > chocolate ;-) You need to try REAL dark chocolate.......Callabaut is very nice.... From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:11:44 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:20:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d828rk$2hi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Deborah wrote: > > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( > > > > happy b-day! How old are you? How o-old are you? ;-) > Old enough to know better but too young to stop doing it anyway. ;-) > > 4. And, pardon me for saying so, > AHEM...some of us have not actually gotten around to seeing it yet! Oops is > right! > Sorry..I thought I was for sure the last person on the planet to see it! > > > > E. And then there's this - it appears that despite my birthday and > > many more previous ones I have celebrated, we haven't come very far > > at all from where we were 40 years ago: > > http://tinyurl.com/cw462 > > That blows donkey snot. And this statement below has it backwards, if you > ask me -- "popular opinion" is what's driving the politicians and courts to > keep medical maryjane illegal, not the other way around. > > "The director of National Drug Control Policy, John Walters, was pleased by > the ruling. "Our national medical system relies on proven scientific > research, not popular opinion," he told The Associated Press. "To date, > science and research have not determined that smoking marijuana is safe or > effective." > > Excuse me?? To date scientific research HAS proved that taking morphine, valium, and any number of other prescription drugs IS NOT safe (i.e., is addictive, which is what he really means), but it is not against the law to use *them* for medical purposes!!! Not to mention tobacco... -- D-LO From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:18:27 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:25:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d829v2$3an$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Sadly, given the jackass who's appointing all the new judges, doesn't look too > promising for the future either.......and now a little song for you.... > > "Happy Birthday....Happy Birthday....Grief, misery and despair...People dying > everywhere...Happy Birthday...Happy Birthdaaaaay....." > > (forgive the little trip down memory lane, I figured it was better than, 'You look > like a monkey, and you smell like one too....) :) > > LOL - anything would be better! -- D-LO From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:25:10 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:30:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] We're gonna have a tornado Message-ID: Looks like I'm right in the path - see where NY, MA and CT come together... http://www.erh.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p19r0/si.kenx.shtml -- D-LO From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:34:12 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Canopus wrote: > Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail >> links etc. gone? > > Do you have any idea how expensive those kinds of systems are per > passenger mile? Outrageous! There is no mass-transit system in the > world that can expand without huge government subsidies, and most > systems can't be self sufficient using what they've already got to > start with.....raise the fares and ridership drops like a rock, keep > the fares at a reasonable price and you can't afford the track and > vehicle maintainance costs. But nothing exists in a vacuum. A mass-transit system may never pay for itself from fares, but its existence may prevent or delay contruction of more highways thereby resulting in a net savings. Or so the people who build these things say. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:40:50 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "D-LO" wrote in message news:d82blq$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > Looks like I'm right in the path - see where NY, MA and CT come > together... > > > http://www.erh.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p19r0/si.kenx.shtml Lay low, D-Lo! This isn't looking too good heading my way either http://www.weather.com/weather/map/03833?name=northeastradar2100mile_large_animated&day=1 From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:41:49 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > > That blows donkey snot. And this statement below has it backwards, if > you ask me -- "popular opinion" is what's driving the politicians and > courts to keep medical maryjane illegal, not the other way around. > "Donkey snot" as an metaphor for Democrats? But you're right. The court picked its results first then scanned about for a legal principle on which to base its decision. In this case, they used the Commerce Clause. They could just have easily used the UN's Single Convention Treaty which mandates criminal penalties for reefers or the supremecy clause of the 14th Amendment. Lotsa tools in their box. Frankly, I'm surprised that three members of the court thought it an acceptable idea to have dope-crazed hippies wandering the land stealing cookies and pissing against the wall. From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 16:42:24 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:45:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT > > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they > busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August > Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. > > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--prostitution-octo > 0605jun05,0,4090923,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey It's a dark and disgusting job, but somebody's got to do it. From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:43:02 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d82ccv$5eb$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "D-LO" wrote in message > news:d82blq$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Looks like I'm right in the path - see where NY, MA and CT come > > together... > > > > > > http://www.erh.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p19r0/si.kenx.shtml > > Lay low, D-Lo! This isn't looking too good heading my way either > > http://www.weather.com/weather/map/03833?name=northeastradar2100mile_lar ge_animated&day=1 > > I KNOW!! So far, we've just had high winds and heavy rain, tho...looks like for now the red cells dissipated before it got to us. There seem to still be some pretty big ones up Vermont/NH way, tho. -- D-LO From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 17:45:31 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:20 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "HeyBub" wrote in message news:d82ce3$5f1$1@news.spamcop.net... > indigo wrote: > > Frankly, I'm surprised that three members of the court thought it an > acceptable idea to have dope-crazed hippies wandering the land stealing > cookies and pissing against the wall. > > Now you're just being an asshole...The point is that the conservative members of the court made their decision and then found some law to back it up. But.... wait a minute...I thought the Republicans were supposed to be for states' rights and smaller Federal govt. And..wait another minute...that's the principle upon which the dissenting judges based their dissent - that the states have the right to legislate criminal matters. Hmmmm... -- D-LO From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:43:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: "HeyBub" wrote in message news:d82cf6$5ff$1@news.spamcop.net... | > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they | > busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August | > Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. | > | > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--prostitution-octo | > 0605jun05,0,4090923,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey | | It's a dark and disgusting job, but somebody's got to do it. You applying for the job? From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:46:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:28 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > Kinda like stem cell research 'there will be no productive results' | > because we won't allow it. | | Thank $diety for the South Koreans.....the groundswell is growing to | overturn the shrubs religious-based rejection of fed funding on this..... | Don't bet on it changing anytime soon. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:48:12 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "HeyBub" < | | Frankly, I'm surprised that three members of the court thought it an | acceptable idea to have dope-crazed hippies wandering the land stealing | cookies and pissing against the wall. Which includes more than a few policians and at least one current president. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:48:51 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:50:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > Well Sr. was building bikes for years before Jr. came in...but yeah, | > Jr. pretty much runs the creative part of it now. He BETTER be paid | > well. | | Based on the looks of his blonde bimbo g/f I expect he *does* get his fair | share ;-) Unfortunately he gets my share as well... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:50:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "D-LO" wrote in message news:d82cma$5qo$1@news.spamcop.net... > I KNOW!! So far, we've just had high winds and heavy rain, tho...looks > like for now the red cells dissipated before it got to us. There seem to > still be some pretty big ones up Vermont/NH way, tho. Seems to be moving really fast too, I'm heading home to batten down the hatches, we're not even under a warning yet but if it's going due east, we're in the crosshairs in an hour or so......Tornadoes, my worst fear.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:54:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "D-LO" wrote in message news:d82cqo$5rm$1@news.spamcop.net... > "HeyBub" wrote in message > > Frankly, I'm surprised that three members of the court thought it an > > acceptable idea to have dope-crazed hippies wandering the land > stealing > > cookies and pissing against the wall. > > > > > > Now you're just being an asshole... You got that part right..... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:54:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 16:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: D-LO wrote: > > Excuse me?? To date scientific research HAS proved that taking > morphine, valium, and any number of other prescription drugs IS NOT > safe (i.e., is addictive, which is what he really means), but it is > not against the law to use *them* for medical purposes!!! Not to > mention tobacco... and alcohol, and a host of other stuff that the fed and local governments can and do TAX. Think that has anything to do with it? (the lawsuit was about home grown personal use MJ). P.S. D-LO, could you drop into .geeks for a sec and take a peek at my cable modem problem thread? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 18:03:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 17:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "D-LO" wrote in message > news:d82blq$4sl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Looks like I'm right in the path - see where NY, MA and CT come > > together... > > > > > > http://www.erh.noaa.gov/radar/latest/DS.p19r0/si.kenx.shtml > > Lay low, D-Lo! This isn't looking too good heading my way either > > http://www.weather.com/weather/map/03833?name=northeastradar2100mile_large_animated&day=1 Yikes....looks like my hometown is getting slammed as I type.. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p19r0/si.klwx.shtml And my local forecast is calling for some pretty severe weather until 10:00 tonite....buckle down, everyone! The whole NE corridor is going to catch hell in the next 4-5 hours! From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 18:34:37 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (D-LO) Date: Mon Jun 6 17:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82d6r$65u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > P.S. D-LO, could you drop into .geeks for a sec and take a peek at my cable > modem problem thread? > > Sure thing. -- D-LO From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 18:47:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Jun 6 17:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: D-LO wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d82d6r$65u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > P.S. D-LO, could you drop into .geeks for a sec and take a peek at > > my cable modem problem thread? > > > > > > Sure thing. Tthanks. And I expect to see some answer, you not as young as you were two days ago lady! ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Jun 6 23:54:04 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d821ep$t17$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: >> >> Hmm.... The factory is owned by Fiat, the workforce is employed by >> fiat, the robots that assemble the cars are owned by >> Fiat............... but the cars are not made by Fiat??!!?? >> >> Sorry. Don't quite follow the logic there... > > Who's name in on the paycheck the workers get? I'll bet you 1000 quatloos > it > ain't Fiat. > >> Ah yes! but don't forget to mention that those seven different cars >> aren't made by them (they just own the factory) but by the seven >> different brands! Splorf! > > Splorf! Indeed......I do believe you just contradicted your own argument! Actually, I was being sarcastic. I couldn't care less who's badge is put on the product - it's made by the manufacturer who owns the factory - regardless of what badge eventually ends up on the front. Same thing happens with a lot of other products besides automobiles. One manufacturer, many different brands. Oceanic, Apeks, Beaver and umpteen others may all have versions of the same knife but they're all manufactured by Aropec in Taiwan. Therefore, the *manufacturer* is Aropec - not Oceanic, Apeks, Beaver or whoever - they are just brands - not manufacturers. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 19:05:59 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DB6382876ATheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Well, golly, here in NE today it was in the 50s and raining... But > tomorrow it's supposed to hit 90. Dang and dang again! Yes, lovely, wasn't it? The dogs were the only ones happy, they can't take the heat, but me, well, I don't mind a little warmth. Now 90, that's a bit much.... thankfully it's only going to be that one day.... From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Jun 6 16:07:12 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > > >>Try 90's! And my air conditioner fan motor froze up yesterday, great >>timing. Luckily I got a Trane dealer to come out and fix it within a >>couple of hours ($450 for the new motor and a partial freon fillup > > > Surely not freon. You just mean figuratively, of course. That stuff they > put in compressors, and all. Surely. Please, tell you meant it > figuratively... > Freon is a legitimate term for not just R-12, but also for R-134a...which is much safer than R-12. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 00:06:57 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-FA7BFA.15280706062005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> >> Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see......... >> >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/17302/17302.html >> >> Particular attention to the last paragraph..... > > Particular attention to the date: 1997. Things have changed since then. True. Motorola have given up production and IBM is giving up production. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 18:15:34 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Cat) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D-LO wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d828rk$2hi$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> >>Deborah wrote: >> >>>B. Today is my birthday.... >>>4. And, pardon me for saying so, >> >>AHEM...some of us have not actually gotten around to seeing it yet! > > Oops is > >>right! >> > > > Sorry..I thought I was for sure the last person on the planet to see it! Happy birthday! I'm with you on liking birthday recognition but not liking the "getting older" part. I still enjoy the cake and gifts and stuff, but I don't want to be another year older. I don't think you spoiled anything by telling how Anakin ended up in the big black suit and mask as Darth Vader. Unless anyone has been in a coma for the last 30 years, it's pretty common knowledge that something had to happen to Anakin to put him in the suit. That would be about like someone claiming that he/she didn't know Anakin would turn to the dark side to become Darth Vader or not knowing that Padme would be pregnant with Anakin's babies in Episode III. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 19:17:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:20:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DB947171F0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Well, at least they're not little dogs - they won't get blown away in the > tornadoes, or whatever. No, but they will whine and fuss and go mental, they hate noise, thunder boomers, firecrackers, fireworks - ugh. This thing's not going to hit till 9, hope it will die out by then....wah. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 00:13:35 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:25:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DB9D9FA83DTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! >> "indigo" wrote in message >> news:d821ep$t17$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Porpoise wrote: > >>>> Ah yes! but don't forget to mention that those seven different cars >>>> aren't made by them (they just own the factory) but by the seven >>>> different brands! Splorf! >>> >>> Splorf! Indeed......I do believe you just contradicted your own >>> argument! >> >> Actually, I was being sarcastic. I couldn't care less who's badge is >> put on the product - it's made by the manufacturer who owns the >> factory - regardless of what badge eventually ends up on the front. >> Same thing happens with a lot of other products besides automobiles. >> One manufacturer, many different brands. Oceanic, Apeks, Beaver and >> umpteen others may all have versions of the same knife but they're all >> manufactured by Aropec in Taiwan. Therefore, the *manufacturer* is >> Aropec - not Oceanic, Apeks, Beaver or whoever - they are just brands >> - not manufacturers. > > Nice way to try and cloud the issue with stuff that has little to nothing > to do with the subject at hand. But thanks for sharing without knowing > what you're talking about. Mind you, of course, that the factory in > question (mine, not yours) belongs to several different completely > unrelated companies. It's actually quite simple (whatever the product is) - A owns factory, B contracts A to manufacture product for him. A is the manufacturer - not B. From dlane-olson at synoffsys.com Mon Jun 6 19:26:12 2005 From: dlane-olson at synoffsys.com (Deborah) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DB4C8EE9EDTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "D-LO" ! > >> Looks like I'm right in the path - see where NY, MA and CT come >> together... > > Whoa - do you live in a trailer park, or something? > -- > Mean presidents suck No - but I do have a great big old oak tree and a bunch of other big trees in my yard that could very easily do a good bit of damage to the roof and back end of my house! -- D-LO From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 00:36:57 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DBC394923DTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! > >> It's actually quite simple (whatever the product is) - A owns factory, >> B contracts A to manufacture product for him. A is the manufacturer - >> not B. > > Of course. Ferrari owns the factory. The cars that come out of it are > Ferraris. Peugeot and Fiat jointly own a factory. The cars that come out > of it are Peugeots and Fiats. If it's so simple, why don't you get it? Because you're wrong mate. It's Fiat that owns the factory that makes Ferraris. Peugeot & Citroen jointly own some other factories, and Fiats don't come out of them. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:50:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:d828e8$1tj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Merry Birthday! If you didn't want to talk about it, why mention it? So > how old are you now...28? 29? she's 21 (again) of course! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:53:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 18:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: "Canopus" wrote in message news:d801hp$oap$1@news.spamcop.net... > It's just been announced on the media that the UK government is now > seriously considering road pricing by the mile in the UK within 10 > years. Cost at present is estimated at £1.30 per mile! That means > that the job I had a few years ago working in historic gardens in the > country for which I got £120 per week would cost me £300 per week to > get to. OK, wages have gone up, but, estimating the wage for that job > ten years hence I would still be paying £100 per week more than I earn > just on road pricing before gas is taken into account. That's an outrageous amount. People will NOT sit still and just let it happen. Remember the poll tax riots. > > My present job is driving private hire mini buses. We often take > people into the City on week ends for venues at around £85 per return > journey which they are satisfied with and we are one of the cheapest > firms doing it. If road pricing comes in the same trips would cost > over £100 more and I cannot see people affording it except > occasionally, but, we would not be able to survive for occasional > journeys. Surely buses would be exempted from this kind of thing? > I could go on with the statistics, but, consider this. If the > government are doing this to reduce road use for pollution reasons > (environmentally friendly) would it not be sensible to create a mass > transport system first and use such things as road tax and fuel tax to > fund it? Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail links > etc. gone? Because it's really about raising revenues. If Labour does go ahead with it, this is a surefire way for the Cons to take back the country. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Jun 7 00:47:39 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d82jmc$ami$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns966DBC394923DTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... >> No way it was me! It was "Porpoise" ! >> >>> It's actually quite simple (whatever the product is) - A owns factory, >>> B contracts A to manufacture product for him. A is the manufacturer - >>> not B. >> >> Of course. Ferrari owns the factory. The cars that come out of it are >> Ferraris. Peugeot and Fiat jointly own a factory. The cars that come >> out >> of it are Peugeots and Fiats. If it's so simple, why don't you get it? > > Because you're wrong mate. It's Fiat that owns the factory that makes > Ferraris. Peugeot & Citroen jointly own some other factories, and Fiats > don't come out of them. Ferrari protector Agnelli dies Gianni Agnelli has died at the age of 81. Agnelli was the grandson of the founder of Fiat and became its managing director in 1963 and its chairman from 1966 after spending the 1950s enjoying a playboy lifestyle. As the boss of Fiat he helped to steer the company to become one of the biggest corporations in Europe. He was particularly fond of the Ferrari company, which Fiat bought control of in 1968. Under Fiat ownership the Ferrari company boomed with the Boxer in 1973 and the 308GTB in 1975. There was further success in the 1980s with the Testarossa, the F40 and in the 1990s with the F50. Known as "the avvocato" because of his training as a lawyer, he remained the chairman of Fiat until 1996 and played an important role in building the Ferrari F1 team up during the 1970s. After his retirement Agnelli continued to be closely involved with Ferrari, having been a longtime supporter of Ferrari President Luca di Montezemolo. He was the block on all attempts by Fiat to sell the company. Like I said, FIAT make Ferraris. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:56:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:00:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns966D32E013E14tinlc@216.154.195.61... > They're aleady having a difficult enough time trying to expand the > current system with what little ridership they have. (Their fares are > WAY too high. Heck, in Boston you can go anywhere in and around the > metro area for a little more than $1.) It's even worse around here. At least up there you do have a mass transit system of sorts. The one here is so limited that it's almost useless. They need to be building a light rail system that runs along the middle of all the freeways since they're unlikely to build one underground and there's nowhere else to put such a thing. Instead of adding HOV lanes all over the place, having a comprehensive network of public transport that works would get things moving far more effectively. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 16:59:06 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:00:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d8249a$umg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Canopus wrote: > Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail > > links etc. gone? > > Do you have any idea how expensive those kinds of systems are per passenger > mile? Outrageous! There is no mass-transit system in the world that can > expand without huge government subsidies, and most systems can't be self > sufficient using what they've already got to start with.....raise the fares > and ridership drops like a rock, keep the fares at a reasonable price and > you can't afford the track and vehicle maintainance costs. It's that sort of fear of cost outlook that stymies any and all attempts to build a good system in this country. If such systems aren't built, travel times in and around cities are going to be so utterly ridiculous that the cities themselves will eventually die and instead there'll be this giant urban sprawl that gradually fills up all the green spaces. People will be forced to drive further and further and the country will become like one giant Houston or something. Ugh! If the money currently being spent on war were directed instead at public transport, we'd all be far better off. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:01:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d7tis6$fa0$2@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" > | > > > | > > Of course they do (erm, 30-50%?). And? You buy more and spend more > | > > money overall because it is so easy to do. > | > > | > No, I do *not* buy more. I buy what I need and nothing else. I'm a guy, > | not a chick, for chrissakes! > | > | *narrows eyes at Indi* (again) > > Indi, watch out when her ears fold back... LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:03:56 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:05:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d7v3e0$8gi$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns966BCFFFB7AD0TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > No way it was me! It was "Frog Prince" ! > > > >> http://www.big-boys.com/articles/donttouchmycar.html > > > > It's ok - Fiat is going broke selling crappy cars and they haven't sold > > any > > in this country in decades... > > You mean! They haven't sold any Ferraris or Maseratis??!!!??? Or Alfa > Romeos, or Lancias?????? Iveco Trucks????? Precious few Alfas, doubt anyone here has heard of Lancias or Iveco Trucks. Plenty of Ferraris and some Maseratis though. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:18:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:d7v9ga$b9b$1@news.spamcop.net... > Yeah, well..... It's a bit like Porsche.... Porsche don't actually *make* > anything - they design things. It's actually VolksWagon that *make* the > cars. Same with Fiat / Ferrari..... Brand names mean very little these days > in terms of actual manufacture. It's all about badging....... Same as most > other fields. Eh wot? Porsche most certainly DO make cars. They have factories doing just that. However, these days they make less and less of the parts that go into said cars. I can't find any evidence that Volskwagen has anything to do with it these days. Are you sure they're not autonomous? http://www3.uk.porsche.com/english/gbr/company/annualreport/group/structure/default.htm According to the Volkswagen site, they don't list Porsche as being one of their brands. http://www.volkswagen.com/vwcms_publish/vwcms/master_public/international_portal/en/home/company/konzern.html From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:21:22 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966CAF8D4655TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Your statements are not, of course, related. But, anyway, it doesn't look > like you've used many other flight sims. You know, I think that the one I > used to have on my C64 was better than FG. And it loaded (from a tape) and > ran a lot quicker, too. Probably because it had almost no polygons to process! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:26:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Secret Worlds - From FSU ...secure site..fascinating References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:d80a0c$u0p$1@news.spamcop.net... > Secret Worlds: The Universe Within > View the Milky Way at 10 million light years from the Earth. Then move > through space towards the Earth in successive orders of magnitude until you > reach a tall oak tree just outside the buildings of the National High > Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, Florida. After that, begin to move > from the actual size of a leaf into a microscopic world that reveals leaf > cell walls, the cell nucleus, chromatin, DNA and finally, into the subatomic > universe of electrons and protons. > > http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html how tiny and insignificant we are... and some people actually believe we're the only 'intelligent' life out there?! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:29:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Motorcycle Rentals References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-909AD0.11024406062005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote: > > > You mean that unlike Borg who can legally drive his motorcycle even though > > he has no license specifically for it, you can't do the same? > > I cannot legally drive my motorcycle without the license. I could get > a learner's permit, and be permitted to drive it, but I would have to be > accompanied by someone with a motorcycle license. Accompanied ON the motorcycle? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:30:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: DF's booze problem (was Crazy Ebay Mom) References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82119$srb$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > > Well, I've seen my friends drive. They wouldn't be able to deal > > > with the traffic or the small streets. > > > > They *could* come by other means! > > But taking the subway and then having to walk thru what must feel to them > like downtown Baghdad would be even scarier to them, I'd think. There's always these things called taxis. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:33:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82338$u0h$1@news.spamcop.net... > You don't have family living in another state that you visit often, I > assume? Or drive sometimes long distances to golf either....let alone 4-6 > golf trips to the beach and mountains like we do every year. Heck, I drive > about 300 miles per week just going back and forth to work and normal > running around! That's almost 15k miles right there. Plenty of trips to the beach but as I can see it from home that's hardly gonna rack up the miles LOL. And I certainly wouldn't drive any distances to play golf! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:36:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d8251q$vgd$1@news.spamcop.net... > I'm lucky to have a small local pizzeria chain almost right next door to my > workplace -- started and owned by real Italians. When I got back to work > from my surgery the first day, I made a beeline to the place for two slices > of pepperoni -- manna from heaven. I noticed the previous manager was gone, > and so was the old cashier, replaced by two nice Italian gentleman. When I > asked them where the old manager was, the one guy answered (no joke) > " He's-a swimmin' with the feeshes" . Thinking that he > was joking, I pressed him again -- this time he said "he got greedy, now > he's gone". I'm pretty sure they caught the two folks skimming profits, but > I'm also pretty sure didn't take care of him Tony Soprano style.....but I > would *not* be surprised that major bodily pain was inflicted! LOL. you're probably right about that. Lucky you having a real Italian place. Ours was also a real Italian joint but for whatever reason they closed up shop and it's now a Johnnie's. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:39:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:40:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was ebay mom, now Indi's lack of intestinal fortitude when it comes to dieting References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82591$vhj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > > news:d7pr2e$g38$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Not a big chocolate lover, or any candy or sweets for that matter. > > I only > > > nibble on frozen Hershey's Dark Chocolate on occasion. > > > > *barf* > > > > Hershey's isn't chocolate. > > When you're born and raised 1/2 hour from the plant, it's the ONLY > chocolate! Yuck. You're making me shudder! Have you tried real chocolate by any chance? And by that I mean Lindt or other Swiss brands? Hershey's is way too sweet and it's sort of chewy. Chocolate should not be chewy. I've never had the dark stuff mind you (not that I expect it to be much better!) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:43:21 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d829v2$3an$1@news.spamcop.net... > They are good, still looking for the Altoids gum that's supposed to be so good..... You don't have it there? It's okay, pretty strong like you'd expect. It also comes in various sour flavours now too. I got their licorice variety (of Altoids, not gum) and that is pretty damn intense. > (forgive the little trip down memory lane, I figured it was better than, 'You look > like a monkey, and you smell like one too....) :) And as the monkeys in Madagascar would say in response to that: "I say!" (in the best Queen's English accents) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:47:49 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "D-LO" wrote in message news:d82cqo$5rm$1@news.spamcop.net... > Now you're just being an asshole... whaddaya mean 'now'? ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:50:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:d82gab$8ch$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Sure thing. > > Tthanks. And I expect to see some answer, you not as young as you were two > days ago lady! ;-) are you trying to say 'you old hag' or something? ;o) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:53:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 19:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DBC696120ATheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > Pshaw! Everyone knows that trailer parks are the only things that have > anything to fear from tornadoes - they're veritable tornado magnets! LOL@tornado magnets. You mean they actually attract the tornadoes by some means? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:56:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DC7CFC750CTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > > Eh wot? Porsche most certainly DO make cars. They have factories doing > > just that. > > Don't bother to get into it - it doesn't want to understand. What do you mean, "it"? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Jun 6 17:57:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Sylvesterthekat) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns966DC8239B8EFTheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > news:Xns966CAF8D4655TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > >> the one I used to have on my C64 was better than FG. And it loaded > >> (from a tape) and ran a lot quicker, too. > > > > Probably because it had almost no polygons to process! > > And? I've got a very nice computer now, thank you, and FG runs for shite > on it. And looks absolutely terrible. I can see someone got out of bed on the wrong side today. From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:33:29 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: D-LO wrote: > "HeyBub" wrote in message > news:d82ce3$5f1$1@news.spamcop.net... >> indigo wrote: >> >> Frankly, I'm surprised that three members of the court thought it an >> acceptable idea to have dope-crazed hippies wandering the land >> stealing cookies and pissing against the wall. >> >> > > Now you're just being an asshole...The point is that the conservative > members of the court made their decision and then found some law to > back it up. Ah, sorry to burst your biased bubble; conservative members of the court voted in favor of turning marijuana loose on the school children, the unsophisticated, the weak and thereby increasing crime, debasement, and immorality. The liberals on the court were in the majority. > But.... wait a minute...I thought the Republicans were > supposed to be for states' rights and smaller Federal govt. Not necessarily. For example, we don't believe in trusting our country's defense to state-run National Guard units. We don't believe in letting the mayor of San Francisco enforce drug laws. > And..wait another minute...that's the principle upon which the > dissenting judges based their dissent - that the states have the > right to legislate criminal matters. Hmmmm... Yes. The conservative judges (Thomas and Rehnquist) said that. Scalia was drunk during the vote. From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:34:44 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:35:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "HeyBub" wrote in message > news:d82cf6$5ff$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>> LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they >>> busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August >>> Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old >>> grandmother. >>> >>> > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--prostitution-octo >>> 0605jun05,0,4090923,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey >> >> It's a dark and disgusting job, but somebody's got to do it. > > You applying for the job? It's not clear yet whether there's a vacancy. But you have to admire the business model: 1. You've got it. 2. You sell it. 3. You've still got it. From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:36:03 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Secret Worlds - From FSU ...secure site..fascinating References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > Secret Worlds: The Universe Within > View the Milky Way at 10 million light years from the Earth. Then move > through space towards the Earth in successive orders of magnitude > until you reach a tall oak tree just outside the buildings of the > National High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, Florida. > After that, begin to move from the actual size of a leaf into a > microscopic world that reveals leaf cell walls, the cell nucleus, > chromatin, DNA and finally, into the subatomic universe of electrons > and protons. > > http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html Asimov pointed out there's about the same orders of magnitude from us to the quark level as there is between us and the universe level. From heybub at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 20:45:57 2005 From: heybub at gmail.com (HeyBub) Date: Mon Jun 6 20:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > It's that sort of fear of cost outlook that stymies any and all > attempts to build a good system in this country. If such systems > aren't built, travel times in and around cities are going to be so > utterly ridiculous that the cities themselves will eventually die and > instead there'll be this giant urban sprawl that gradually fills up > all the green spaces. Nah, at the density of Manhattan, all the people on earth could fit in Yugoslavia - not that anyone would WANT to be in Yugoslavia, mind you, it's just an example. > People will be forced to drive further and > further and the country will become like one giant Houston or > something. Ugh! Houston's not so bad if you stay inside. We didn't build the world's first air-conditioned sports stadium to be ostentatious! Heck, at the same latitude as Cairo, it's required! > If the money currently being spent on war were > directed instead at public transport, we'd all be far better off. It's never a choice. If we want mass transit as much as we want to kill terrorists, potential terrorists, relatives of terrorists, and those who know terrorists, we'll get mass transit. Now if they were to promote trains/trollys, etc. without warning devices or grade crossings such that you were almost guaranteed spectacular wrecks on the evening news every night, there'd be more mass transit riders than spectators at NASCAR events. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Mon Jun 6 22:45:23 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Mon Jun 6 21:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > > > "Porpoise" wrote: > > > >> Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see......... > >> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/17302/17302.html > >> > >> Particular attention to the last paragraph..... > > > > Particular attention to the date: 1997. Things have changed since then. > > True. Motorola have given up production and IBM is giving up production. What's your point? Or is this just another in the long line of "Apple is dead" predictions, all of them wrong? -- D.F. Manno dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com "The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream will never die." From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 19:37:56 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: <54i9n2-0gp.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "Sylvesterthekat" ! >> "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message >> news:Xns966CAF8D4655TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > >>> the one I used to have on my C64 was better than FG. And it loaded >>> (from a tape) and ran a lot quicker, too. >> >> Probably because it had almost no polygons to process! > > And? I've got a very nice computer now, thank you, and FG runs for shite > on it. And looks absolutely terrible. Specs? Flightgear is a fairly GPU intensive OpenGL program. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 19:54:25 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:d8203e$sc0$1@news.spamcop.net... > | > | > | Borgholio wrote: > | As you progress, your > | > training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from > | > here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). > | > | Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for calling > it > | "cross-country flight"? :-P > > > Depends on the state. Some parts of Texas are 900 miles apart. Cross-country as opposed to circling the airport. Cross-country requires some fairly precision navigation (get off by even a couple degrees over the course of a few hundred miles and you're *way* off target). Any idiot who can see the ground can circle an airport or hop to another airport in normal commuting distances and get it right just eyeballing it without instruments if they're familiar with the area. I wish I had the money to get my wings and use a small plane as a commuter. Really frustrating to live in a metropolis with only two bridges over a mile wide expanse (it's often impossible to cross the state line at evening rush hour, usual cause is normal crush northbound (freeway interchange ramp with two lanes leaving the main road, the ramp makes a 15 MPH turn just feet after it leaves the freeway, and just yards north of the state line; thank you WSDOT, we truly feel that commitment to highway safety in Washington State there), accident in southeast Portland or Oregon City on the southbound side, and 20 miles of traffic stacking up behind it over the state line, while I-5 grinds to a stop as Coast Guard decides to clear a ship through the Interstate Drawbridge and turning the traffic lights red on I-5 for 45 minutes at the state line), and you work within walking distance of an airport and live just 3 minutes from an airport, both stupidly lacking commercial commuter flights. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 19:57:23 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: Message-ID: <3hbfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca> Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Redstone wrote: > >> I believe that officers get tasered themselves to show what it is like >> to be tasered before being issued one. > > Let's just hope the same thing doesn't apply for their service pistol. > :-P > > In the army, we got tear-gassed repeatedly, and had to run through the > chamber once or twice. Now THAT is an experience I'd just as soon not > have done. *shudder* If I think about it, I can still taste it...yuck. I know what you mean. Just thinking about pepper spray makes my eyes burn a little bit and I can taste it. Back when I was a security officer, I got hit in the face with pepper spray trying to cross a riot getting to work. I was not the intended target. Because of that, I'm still pissed the people who incited that August 2002 riot haven't been prosecuted and are still at large. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 20:01:05 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: <1obfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca> D.F. Manno wrote: > As for Apple being "such a small niche market," don't be so quick to > unquestioningly swallow the market share numbers. I generally hear 16% for MacOS's market share, though that sets off my bullshit detector as that's fairly out of line with what I see in web stats. http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/awstats.pl?output=osdetail Granted, web stats are never a fair sample for a wide variety of reasons, but we're not even talking the same ballpark. I similarly critisize Windows bigots for the same reason. Over 90% market share my ass, I see 70%, maybe 75% tops. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 20:03:56 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > > "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > news:dfm2a3l0t2-FA7BFA.15280706062005@news.cesmail.net... >> In article , >> "Porpoise" wrote: >> >>> >>> Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see......... >>> >>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/ArticleID/17302/17302.html >>> >>> Particular attention to the last paragraph..... >> >> Particular attention to the date: 1997. Things have changed since then. > > True. Motorola have given up production and IBM is giving up production. Well, given that Apple has promised more PPC products, is that all smoke and mirrors, or who is still cranking them out? -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From baloo at ursine.ca Mon Jun 6 20:05:10 2005 From: baloo at ursine.ca (Paul Johnson) Date: Mon Jun 6 22:10:31 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Straight from Winter to Summer References: Message-ID: Charles wrote: > No way it was me! It was "indigo" ! > >> Try 90's! And my air conditioner fan motor froze up yesterday, great >> timing. Luckily I got a Trane dealer to come out and fix it within a >> couple of hours ($450 for the new motor and a partial freon fillup > > Surely not freon. You just mean figuratively, of course. That stuff they > put in compressors, and all. Surely. Please, tell you meant it > figuratively... What do you think an air conditioner is? -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): baloo@ursine.ca http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 02:27:28 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jun 7 01:35:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Back from flying References: Message-ID: "Paul Johnson" | > | Borgholio wrote: | > | As you progress, your | > | > training will involve cross-country flights...the longest being from | > | > here to Palo Alto (about 5 hours flight time). | > | | > | Erm, shouldn't you at least be going out of state to qualify for calling | > it | > | "cross-country flight"? :-P | > | > | > Depends on the state. Some parts of Texas are 900 miles apart. | | Cross-country as opposed to circling the airport. Cross-country requires | some fairly precision navigation (get off by even a couple degrees over the | course of a few hundred miles and you're *way* off target). Any idiot who | can see the ground can circle an airport or hop to another airport in | normal commuting distances and get it right just eyeballing it without | instruments if they're familiar with the area. | | I wish I had the money to get my wings and use a small plane as a commuter. | Really frustrating to live in a metropolis with only two bridges over a | mile wide expanse (it's often impossible to cross the state line at evening | rush hour, usual cause is normal crush northbound (freeway interchange ramp | with two lanes leaving the main road, the ramp makes a 15 MPH turn just | feet after it leaves the freeway, and just yards north of the state line; | thank you WSDOT, we truly feel that commitment to highway safety in | Washington State there), accident in southeast Portland or Oregon City on | the southbound side, and 20 miles of traffic stacking up behind it over the | state line, while I-5 grinds to a stop as Coast Guard decides to clear a | ship through the Interstate Drawbridge and turning the traffic lights red | on I-5 for 45 minutes at the state line), and you work within walking | distance of an airport and live just 3 minutes from an airport, both | stupidly lacking commercial commuter flights. | | There's always an ultra-lite, too bad the FAA frounds on flight in heavy urban airspace. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 02:33:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Jun 7 01:35:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: For Charles -- a cautionary tail. References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" | It's actually quite simple (whatever the product is) - A owns factory, B | contracts A to manufacture product for him. A is the manufacturer - not B. Depends on who is doing the design work and controlling the process. Way back when E.F Johnson was making CB radios. Made the best, by a long shot, they contracted to do production work for Radio Shack. Same basic case but the insides were specked and designed by Radio Shack. The end result almost put Johnson out of business. When I was in the cellular wireless business our company would often sub contract production to other companies. While the work was preformed by someone else we had total control over the product. Aside from the S/N run there was no what to tell where or by whom the product was made. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:08:05 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d8238h$u3q$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> And you play golf too? You play with an extension on your golf clubs? > > No, got custom fitted last year for a set of clubs. Anyway, most off > the shelf clubs are ok for anyone from about 5'8" to 6' ish, you just > have adjust your grip and/or stance a tad. > > Hopefully it doesn't affect the performance/comfort levels. One thing I do see in golf.. a lot more players love their "cheater" putters. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:09:33 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Still househunting... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d822s3$tsa$1@news.spamcop.net: > > And the following land/mudslides, hmmmm? Laguna Beach ring a bell? > > I live nowhere near that area. Besides, I'm too "below" their class to be seen in such a prestigious (now updated to "disaster") area. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:13:57 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Talk about bug-eyes! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:d823rc$udd$1@news.spamcop.net: > > How can you tell without seeing them nekkid? Reminds me of Teri > Hatcher's turn on that "Seinfeld" episode ;-) Back before she starved > herself to death and lost her boobs *and* ass.....what a shame...... > > Just remember.. as you are a butt guy.. I'm a boob guy. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:24:08 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh my freaking ears... References: <3hbfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: Paul Johnson wrote in news:3hbfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca: > > I know what you mean. Just thinking about pepper spray makes my eyes > burn a little bit and I can taste it. Back when I was a security > officer, I got hit in the face with pepper spray trying to cross a > riot getting to work. I was not the intended target. Because of that, > I'm still pissed the people who incited that August 2002 riot haven't > been prosecuted and are still at large. > 2002 riot? Where was this? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:25:45 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:d81l40$mbc$1@news.spamcop.net: > > Well, they'd have a greater selection of available software, for > sure........ > > Wouldn't mind giving a Mac OS a whirl on an Intel/AMD machine. :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:28:20 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:30:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d82kb4$b1g$1@news.spamcop.net: > > It's even worse around here. At least up there you do have a mass > transit system of sorts. The one here is so limited that it's almost > useless. They need to be building a light rail system that runs along > the middle of all the freeways since they're unlikely to build one > underground and there's nowhere else to put such a thing. Instead of > adding HOV lanes all over the place, having a comprehensive network of > public transport that works would get things moving far more > effectively. > Looks at it this way.. with one running down the middle of the freeway, you won't have to worry about some crazy vehicle jumping across the median. From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:33:28 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Deborah" wrote in news:d827s1$1hs$1@news.spamcop.net: > 1. The most interesting thing that's happened to me in the past 2 > weeks is discovering a new flavor of Altoids - ginger. Love 'em! > You should try the Chinese version. :-9 > B. Today is my birthday....I don't wanna talk about it. But I'll be > po'ed if you don't wish me happy birthday anyway ;-( > Happy Birthday D-LO.. and many happy returns. So did Santa bring you something nice? :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:33:59 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:35:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in news:d82jva$aq4$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:d828e8$1tj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Merry Birthday! If you didn't want to talk about it, why mention > > it? So >> how old are you now...28? 29? > > she's 21 (again) of course! > > > Time travel? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Tue Jun 7 09:36:14 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Tue Jun 7 04:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Police nab 80-year-old madam in prostitution case References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:d81ebp$ior$1@news.spamcop.net: > June 5, 2005, 1:44 PM EDT > > LINDENWOLD, N.J. -- Police made a surprising discovery when they > busted the alleged madam of a prostitution ring called "August > Playmates": the woman running the show was an 80-year-old grandmother. > > http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj-- prostitution > -octo 0605jun05,0,4090923,print.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey > > > Think it was one of the grannies that harrased you during Xmas? :-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 07:48:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Jun 7 06:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: It's sad, really References: Message-ID: "Redstone" wrote in message news:Xns966EFF301E65tinlc@216.154.195.61... > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in > news:d82jva$aq4$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > she's 21 (again) of course! > > > > Time travel? Uh uh...denial...it's a wonderfu thing... ;> From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Tue Jun 7 12:24:02 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Jun 7 07:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat on 06/06/2005 wrote: > It's even worse around here. At least up there you do have a mass > transit system of sorts. The one here is so limited that it's almost > useless. They need to be building a light rail system that runs along > the middle of all the freeways since they're unlikely to build one > underground and there's nowhere else to put such a thing. Instead of > adding HOV lanes all over the place, having a comprehensive network > of public transport that works would get things moving far more > effectively. I tried to explain this to people in Cairo, Egypt. The first time I went there they had a tram system that ran almost to the Egyptian Museum of Archaeology at the centre. The second time I went there it had gone. "Why had it gone?" I asked. "To enlarge the road to take more cars because we're getting grid-locked" they replied. "But, that doesn't work, all that happens is that cars expand into the new road space and you are grid locked again. We tried it in the UK and now they are trying to put trams back into some cities." said I. They wouldn't have it. thought it was a good idea. A year later I went back and the new expanded road was grid-locked and it lead into narrower roads which were now worse. Good mass transit is the only way to go. Let the roads get grid-locked then and people will start choosing the mass-transit. Rob From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Tue Jun 7 12:27:36 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Jun 7 07:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: HeyBub on 06/06/2005 wrote: > indigo wrote: > > Canopus wrote: > > Where have all the plans and ideas about city mono-rail > >> links etc. gone? > > > > Do you have any idea how expensive those kinds of systems are per > > passenger mile? Outrageous! There is no mass-transit system in the > > world that can expand without huge government subsidies, and most > > systems can't be self sufficient using what they've already got to > > start with.....raise the fares and ridership drops like a rock, keep > > the fares at a reasonable price and you can't afford the track and > > vehicle maintainance costs. > > But nothing exists in a vacuum. A mass-transit system may never pay > for itself from fares, but its existence may prevent or delay > contruction of more highways thereby resulting in a net savings. > > Or so the people who build these things say. Car manufacturers and oil producers don't like mass transit systems. The technology exists now to produce them cheaper and more efficient. Rob From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Tue Jun 7 12:36:56 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Jun 7 07:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat on 06/06/2005 wrote: > It's that sort of fear of cost outlook that stymies any and all > attempts to build a good system in this country. If such systems > aren't built, travel times in and around cities are going to be so > utterly ridiculous that the cities themselves will eventually die... Agreed. Mass transit systems are now becoming essential not a luxury. They should be a vital part of the infra structure and also subsidised. This may require some restructuring of society, but, without them and their subsidies society is going to become an increasingly ugly place leading to greater poverty, a greater divide between the rich and average person never mind the poor, collapse of infrastructures because people cannot afford to get to work or just cannot get to work and a dramatic increase in mental illness from environmental pressure. Rob From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Tue Jun 7 12:48:16 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Tue Jun 7 07:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: UK Government Anounces Road Pricing. References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat on 06/06/2005 wrote: > > "Canopus" wrote in message > news:d801hp$oap$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It's just been announced on the media that the UK government is now > > seriously considering road pricing by the mile in the UK within 10 > > years. Cost at present is estimated at ?1.30 per mile! That means > > that the job I had a few years ago working in historic gardens in > > the country for which I got ?120 per week would cost me ?300 per > > week to get to. OK, wages have gone up, but, estimating the wage > > for that job ten years hence I would still be paying ?100 per week > > more than I earn just on road pricing before gas is taken into > > account. > > That's an outrageous amount. People will NOT sit still and just let it > happen. Remember the poll tax riots. ;-) > > > > My present job is driving private hire mini buses. We often take > > people into the City on week ends for venues at around ?85 per > > return journey which they are satisfied with and we are one of the > > cheapest firms doing it. If road pricing comes in the same trips > > would cost over ?100 more and I cannot see people affording it > > except occasionally, but, we would not be able to survive for > > occasional journeys. > > Surely buses would be exempted from this kind of thing? Maybe public transport busses, but, I doubt private hire mini busses. If they are I will be going everywhere in the mini bus I drive when not working even if it does drink five times the amount of fuel an efficient car does ;-) > > > I could go on with the statistics, but, consider this. If the > > government are doing this to reduce road use for pollution reasons > > (environmentally friendly) would it not be sensible to create a mass > > transport system first and use such things as road tax and fuel tax > > to fund it? Where have all the plans and ideas about city > > mono-rail links etc. gone? > > Because it's really about raising revenues. If Labour does go ahead > with it, this is a surefire way for the Cons to take back the country. There's a difference? From what I've seen over the last few decades one party seems to continue the policies of the other changing only small irrelevant things. It's almost as if it is orchestrated, a cabal get together, decide how *they* would like to see society go for *their* benefit and then play out their plans between two parties making a token show of disagreement on minor issues. Rob From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 11:04:12 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Tue Jun 7 10:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: So what about Deep Throat? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:d7l787$uod$1@news.spamcop.net... > Anyone else feel suspicious that the family pushed him to reveal himself because they > wanted to cash in while they could? My skeptic meter is whining loudly..... > > I did hear a quote on HLN (IIRC) that the family had been hawking their story for a while. I believe the figure they received from Vanity Fair was *only* $10k, but the gravy train will run a little longer with movie/book deals. I suppose the story is worth more with the guy still alive, but to be honest I really don't care whether they're cashing in. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 11:08:47 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Tue Jun 7 10:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: We're gonna have a tornado References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:d82nm4$cua$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns966DBC696120ATheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > Pshaw! Everyone knows that trailer parks are the only things that have > > anything to fear from tornadoes - they're veritable tornado magnets! > > LOL@tornado magnets. You mean they actually attract the tornadoes by some > means? > > I think it was Beavis and Butthead that said "let's go to the trailer park and watch..." when a tornado was forecast. There was a piece on the news recently about some Florida residents that are still living in temporary housing following destruction of their homes by the hurricanes last year. Of course these temporary homes looked just like trailers, all neatly lined up. I could just imagine them being destroyed at the slightest puff of wind... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Tue Jun 7 11:14:30 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Neil) Date: Tue Jun 7 10:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh dear! Macs to become PCs - now there's a surprise! References: <1obfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca> Message-ID: "Paul Johnson" wrote in message news:1obfn2-e6l.ln1@ursine.ca... > D.F. Manno wrote: > > > As for Apple being "such a small niche market," don't be so quick to > > unquestioningly swallow the market share numbers. > > I generally hear 16% for MacOS's market share, though that sets off my > bullshit detector as that's fairly out of line