[SpamCop-Social] Re: Idiot
Frog Prince
devnull at spamcop.net
Fri May 27 11:38:12 EDT 2005
"HeyBub"
| >> What about companies like IBM, AMD, and Intel? DuPont? Dow Chemical?
| >> Various universities like Stanford, MIT, RIT, and others? They all
| >> have their own research divisions, and IBM throws /billions/ of
| >> dollars into research every year. University research accounts for
| >> substantial amounts of what is developed, both with and without
| >> federal funding.
| >
| > Is the research being done by IBM and the other corporations you cite
| > _basic_ research or _applied_ research? There's a difference. Research
| > by corporations and by universities funded by corporations is mostly
| > applied research.
| >
| When I worked for Shell, the company had two research divisions:
Exploration
| & Production (in Houston) and Product Development (in California). The
| California operation studied such things as motor oil additives, refinery
| optimization, and the like. The Houston group studied the theoretical
| genesis of petroleum, how it moves, how its various constituent parts are
| created, and similar characteristics. The budgets for each lab were
similar.
The research in the oil company labs is toward practical applications not
pure research.
| In today's world, Apple, Google, and others devote significant resources
to
| letting researchers wander off on their own paths.
| Conversely, academic pursuits are often financed by royalties paid on
prior
| institutional discoveries and patents, so even the Ivory Towers have a
| "profit incentive."
Proceeds from IPR from industry funded research is shared with the company
funding the research and the institution. Not generally know some IPR is
retained for the exclusive use of the funding party.
| The debate over stem-cell research is not about dollars, tax or otherwise;
| the tax funding debate is merely a proxy. The amounts involved in whether
| the federal government sponsors such research are miniscule. The debate is
| between those who draw a bright line on life and the moral hatefulness of
| destroying it and those who say "once we get to experiment on embryos and
| killing them, we can proceed to the elderly and terminally ill. Then we
can
| feast on the 'undesirables.' "
>From the rhetoric by GWB it is based primarily on GWB's religious views
perhaps a more accurate assessment his view of what his core support's
religious views. (do a google search on 'pandering')
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