From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 00:12:34 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Oct 31 19:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> <7hm5m11v79a2h13ij8eku900bdpauthjk5@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk6bok$mfu$4 @news.spamcop.net: > ????? > > I'm done. Took you long enough. ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 00:35:32 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Oct 31 19:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> <7hm5m11v79a2h13ij8eku900bdpauthjk5@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk6d0g$n34$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" >| Took you long enough. ;-) > > I like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Now there is no doubt. > > > I lost the doubt a few days ago. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 01:25:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Oct 31 20:30:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "DougW" wrote in news:dk6fun$oem$1@news.spamcop.net: > Forget politics, there is a worldwide candy conspiracy > going on right under your red rubber noses. > > One hour and I'm tapped out. > > Never seen such a bumper crop of candy seeking > munchkins since the great candy famine of '73. > They're coming strong right now. Altho I've scared a few away without giving candy. a costume helps save candy. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 03:15:15 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Oct 31 22:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dk6mfb$roa$1@news.spamcop.net: > again > JMO > Bill Where you been? You disappear for days at a time, don't let anyone know, yada, yada, yada. LOL From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 1 10:01:00 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Tue Nov 1 05:05:57 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: No, not yet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:djtrr8$bi3$1@news.spamcop.net... >> The street out front of my flat is like a market street, lots of shops >> and they shut it off a few days a week to sell stuff out of carts in the >> street. But on my way in tonight, there were crews putting up Christmas >> lights. Aack, I'm not ready. Can't they give me a few more days? > > Do you have Halloween there? Obviously no Thanksgiving, so what other holiday is > there coming up besides Crimbo - they want to beat the rush I guess.... And don't forget Diwali. They light up for it here in Loughborough at least. Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 1 10:04:58 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Tue Nov 1 05:06:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > >> Ours are down to 2.31, and that's not even at my secret cheapy >> station. Interesting though, right off the highway, a Gibbs >> station and an Irving station are lockstep with each other's >> prices, can't tell me there's no collusion. It's about 4 cents >> cheaper in town, too, i.e. further away from the exti ramps. > > It down to pre Katrina levels here. $2.19 Do portions of gas (as you call it) come in a standard size over where you are? Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From bar_n0ne at hotmail.com Tue Nov 1 15:10:08 2005 From: bar_n0ne at hotmail.com (Berny) Date: Tue Nov 1 06:15:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message news:dk7eka$8i0$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Do portions of gas (as you call it) come in a standard size over where > you are? Gallons (USGallons = 0.8 imperial) where he is From 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 1 11:33:06 2005 From: 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com (Charles) Date: Tue Nov 1 06:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was "Spamvireslayer" ! > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:Xns9700900C0A9C3TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... >> >> Erm, no. But... > > Admit it, moving up there for a "job" was just a ruse to buy a farm > and start making cheese......and beer....homegrown organic hops, must > be a market for those, eh? Barley - you forgot the barley. I can grow my own barley and hops, use water from my well and let the beer grow with wild local yeast - the top! From 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 1 11:33:32 2005 From: 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com (Charles) Date: Tue Nov 1 06:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was JohnL ! > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in > news:Xns9700901B7B996TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > >> It wasn't me! It was JohnL ! >> >>> I'm just wondering why he wants sheep. >> >> Creature comforts! >> > Uh, yeah, that's what I thought Come on, man, lambies is yummy! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 07:36:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 07:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > > Come on, man, lambies is yummy! You've become a carnivore again? oh dear...... From 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 1 13:11:36 2005 From: 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com (Charles) Date: Tue Nov 1 08:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was "Heidi" ! > > "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > >> Come on, man, lambies is yummy! > > You've become a carnivore again? oh dear...... I'm actually only a purported bwvet. Sure, I rarely eat meat, but I don't really have a problem with it... From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 08:31:13 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 08:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9700BB73C9484innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... | "DougW" wrote in | news:dk6fun$oem$1@news.spamcop.net: | | > Forget politics, there is a worldwide candy conspiracy | > going on right under your red rubber noses. | > | > One hour and I'm tapped out. | > | > Never seen such a bumper crop of candy seeking | > munchkins since the great candy famine of '73. | > | | They're coming strong right now. | Although I've scared a few away without giving candy. | a costume helps save candy. Sometimes back fires if you get a rep for really cool (scary) garb. I buried a set of air hoses and valves (connected to the old shop air compressor) along the walk and the lawn that are controled with a set of buttons. Worked for about 45 min until the word spread.. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 08:34:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 08:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Charles" | >> | >> Erm, no. But... | > | > Admit it, moving up there for a "job" was just a ruse to buy a farm | > and start making cheese......and beer....homegrown organic hops, must | > be a market for those, eh? | | Barley - you forgot the barley. I can grow my own barley and hops, use | water from my well and let the beer grow with wild local yeast - the top! Got a name/logo for this adventure? From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 08:39:43 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 08:45:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" | >> | >> DALLAS Oct 27, 2005 - High prices for oil and natural gas propelled Exxon | >> Mobil Corp. and Royal Dutch Shell PLC to their best quarterly results | >> ever | >> on Thursday, with Exxon becoming the first U.S. company ever to ring up | >> quarterly sales of $100 billion. To put Exxon's performance into | >> perspective, its third quarter revenue was greater than the annual gross | >> domestic product of some of the largest oil producing nations, including | >> the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. | > | > Makes my blood boil. What are they going to do with these billions of | > dollars? | > Refund us? | > | > | IF they run their business the right way those profits will decrease | sharply next quarter...in fact, they should show a loss over a quarter or | two more..... but with oil speculation dropping the price they may not... I | did hear (on my right wing wacko radio) that there's an investigation being | started over this... and I HOPE they get their asses nailed to the wall if | they don't do the right thing... | There will be a republican 'come to Jesus' camp meeting. Likely with a memo 'to attend a meeting in Washington to address the 'problem' and BTW plan to get off your wallets' Paraphrased from a memo sent out by the CoS for a major Republican Congressman to insurance industry lobbyists. Most that will happen is a small part of their wallets will be nailed to a political campaign contribution wall. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 08:42:02 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 08:45:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" | > How about 'when donkeys fly'? It doesn't suit them to increase the supply | > and lower | > costs, it's bad for profits. | > | > | not really if you follow the theory that more sales at a lower price makes | up for, or surpasses the profit on a higher priced product with less | sales.... Bill, we all know that works only in an open and truly competitive market. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 14:00:46 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk7rb2$fds$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Sometimes back fires if you get a rep for really cool (scary) garb. I > buried a set of air hoses and valves (connected to the old shop air > compressor) along the walk and the lawn that are controled with a set of > buttons. Worked for about 45 min until the word spread.. Thanks for the idea! I'm saving this for next year. I figure, along with the graveyard and scarecrows, webs and other goodies, a blast of air, loud noises and a strobe should save even more candy next year. (Always trying something different each year. Made the paper last 2 years now) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 09:12:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | | > Sometimes back fires if you get a rep for really cool (scary) garb. I | > buried a set of air hoses and valves (connected to the old shop air | > compressor) along the walk and the lawn that are controled with a set of | > buttons. Worked for about 45 min until the word spread.. | | Thanks for the idea! I'm saving this for next year. | I figure, along with the graveyard and scarecrows, webs and other goodies, | a blast of air, loud noises and a strobe should save even more candy next | year. | (Always trying something different each year. Made the paper last 2 years | now) I used some metered solenoid valves so I could use various air volumes. Some just barely hissed others blew the drive clear (of trash and kids). I had some light (but strong) cloth sleeves that would jump out then retract. I also had some friendly stuff for those kids that were just too frightened to visit. It was really effective if the big kids came just long enough after the little kids to get an idea that we were into the soft/fuzzy 'Disney stuff'. No sooner than the little ones were gone WHAM Freddie and co. for the bigger kids. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 14:20:20 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk7t46$hem$2@news.spamcop.net: > I had some light (but strong) cloth sleeves that would jump out then > retract. I also had some friendly stuff for those kids that were > just too frightened to visit. It was really effective if the big kids > came just long enough after the little kids to get an idea that we > were into the soft/fuzzy 'Disney stuff'. No sooner than the little > ones were gone WHAM Freddie and co. for the bigger kids. > Got all this printed out and saved. Gonna have my F.I.L. make up the pipe and nozzles for the air alongside the driveway and my S.O. to make the sleeves and maybe a few other goodies to jump up. Got them good with sounds this year. Had my speakers at the front, middle and rear of the driveway, switched seperately. As the bigger kids came to the door, ot would start there, and if they "spooked", the soulds would follow them up the drive. I think next year a Warning sign might be appropriate. ;-) From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 09:21:50 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Looks like I won't have to write him a letter this time References: Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > Try Article I, Section 8: > > > > > Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, > > > duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the > > > common defense and general welfare of the United States ... > > > > > > To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several > > > states ... > > > > > > To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying > > > into execution the foregoing powers ... > > Right, I know that section. If you read letters written by several of > the founding fathers, they indicate that it was their intent that > Congress can provide for the "general welfare of the United States" by > exercising it's specifically-enumerated powers. You missed my point, Pete. If you look again, you'll see that I quoted the Commerce Clause. LIHEAP (the energy assistance program for the poor) makes payments directly to the energy companies, not to the consumer. Thus Congress is exercising its powers under the Commerce Clause by regulating the price certain people pay for heating. It's well-settled constitutional law that Congress can regulate prices in interstate commerce. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 09:27:54 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: In article , "Bcs1" wrote: > actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use of the > term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather old... especially > since for the most part he said the very same things Bill Clinton said about > saddam's capabilities, and had in fact gotten/used intel info gathered > during the Clinton administration.... but I guess it's a mute point to even > bother to point that out since it seems that no one cares about that > issue.... nor do they realize how they look when using it.... > and NO I'm not talking about anyone here, I'm talking about those who > purport themselves to be "knowledgeable reporters", or People "in the know". What Clinton said or didn't say, or did or didn't do, is utterly irrelevant with respect to the Iraq war. He wasn't in office when the war started. The Shrub started the war, and he fraudulently won approval for it from Congress and the people by lying to them about WMDs, about the threat from Iraq, and about ties between Hussein and al Qaeda. Bush did that, not Clinton. Furthermore, it's been established that the Bush administration did _not_ use information gathered by the intelligence agencies, but came up with its own "facts" (many of them from the completely unreliable Chalabi). Indeed, Cheney and the CIA were at war with each other, Cheney wanting the agency to present its findings so as to support the war, and the agency refusing to cook the books. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 09:38:12 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 1 09:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Is this to be believed? Message-ID: Idiot.... http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Vice_President_lied_as_White_House_1031.html Bush told reporters the same day he doubted that a Justice Department investigation would ever turn up the source of the leak, suggesting that it was a waste of time for lawmakers to question the administration and for reporters to follow up on the story. "I mean this is a town full of people who like to leak information," Bush said. "And I don't know if we're going to find out the senior administration official. Now, this is a large administration, and there's lots of senior officials. I don't have any idea." Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) responded to the president's statement in the New York Times. "If the president says, 'I don't know if we're going to find this person,' what kind of a statement is that for the president of the United States to make?" Lautenberg asked. "Would he say that about a bank robbery investigation?" From kenbrody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 09:59:10 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Tue Nov 1 10:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: <436782BE.EE4A3CDE@spamcop.net> David Dean wrote: > > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > Ours are down to 2.31, and that's not even at my secret cheapy station. > > Interesting > > though, right off the highway, a Gibbs station and an Irving station are > > lockstep > > with each other's prices, can't tell me there's no collusion. It's about 4 > > cents > > cheaper in town, too, i.e. further away from the exti ramps. > > It down to pre Katrina levels here. $2.19 Still way up here (westchester.co.ny.us) at $2.89/gallon for mid-grade. That's about $0.50 higher than pre-katrina, but better than the $3.19 it was last month. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 10:06:23 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Tue Nov 1 10:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: <4367846F.58C7C5DF@spamcop.net> JohnL wrote: > > "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk7rb2$fds$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Sometimes back fires if you get a rep for really cool (scary) garb. I > > buried a set of air hoses and valves (connected to the old shop air > > compressor) along the walk and the lawn that are controled with a set of > > buttons. Worked for about 45 min until the word spread.. > > Thanks for the idea! I'm saving this for next year. > I figure, along with the graveyard and scarecrows, webs and other goodies, > a blast of air, loud noises and a strobe should save even more candy next > year. > (Always trying something different each year. Made the paper last 2 years > now) There are worse ways to get in the paper around halloween. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 15:10:56 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 10:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: <4367846F.58C7C5DF@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote in news:4367846F.58C7C5DF@spamcop.net: > There are worse ways to get in the paper around halloween. I'll agree to that! ;-) (now getting ready for the Xmas decorations ) From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 10:03:07 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 10:20:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97014AABDF04Finnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... | "Frog Prince" wrote in | news:dk7t46$hem$2@news.spamcop.net: | | > I had some light (but strong) cloth sleeves that would jump out then | > retract. I also had some friendly stuff for those kids that were | > just too frightened to visit. It was really effective if the big kids | > came just long enough after the little kids to get an idea that we | > were into the soft/fuzzy 'Disney stuff'. No sooner than the little | > ones were gone WHAM Freddie and co. for the bigger kids. | > | | Got all this printed out and saved. | Gonna have my F.I.L. make up the pipe and nozzles for the air alongside the | driveway and my S.O. to make the sleeves and maybe a few other goodies to | jump up. | | Got them good with sounds this year. Had my speakers at the front, middle | and rear of the driveway, switched seperately. As the bigger kids came to | the door, ot would start there, and if they "spooked", the soulds would | follow them up the drive. | | I think next year a Warning sign might be appropriate. ;-) Think anyone will take a warning sign seriously? As for the air we anchored an outlet air hose in the bottom of a decretative pond. Thing looked like it was part of the land scape. Press a button the pond lit up red and a blast of air bubbled up ominously. (if it's not too cold -- wet 'em -- if cold then tone down the air) As for piping I used standard flexible shop air hose. Coils up for storage and lets me change the lay out as the mood and available stuff allows. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Tue Nov 1 16:05:16 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue Nov 1 11:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9701535877966TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > It wasn't me! It was "Heidi" ! > >> >> "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > >>> Come on, man, lambies is yummy! >> >> You've become a carnivore again? oh dear...... > > I'm actually only a purported bwvet. Sure, I rarely eat meat, but I don't > really have a problem with it... Of course, as humans, we are all natural omnivores (we eat whatever is available [through hunting/gathering]). People who decide to become vegetarians are only able to do so because that option is available to them because food (and it's various substitutes) is more readily available in our modern society. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 09:31:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 12:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Woo-hoo! Women's Work No More Message-ID: Guys are learning how to do things. I know, I know - .socialite men already know how ;) http://tinyurl.com/bb4nx ATHENS, Ga. - University of Georgia student Brandon Esco has faced his share of razzing for being a nutrition science major - a field traditionally dominated by women. "You're only in that major because of the girls," is the most common teasing he's heard. ... -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 17:50:30 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 12:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in news:Xns97017C7139D34TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... Speaking of that, where's your X-face? From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Tue Nov 1 18:14:38 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Tue Nov 1 13:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! Message-ID: (Continuing the latest trend in subject lines....) Yesterday, Countdown came back after a few months of absence. So far I've only seen the first one, but the second one is on the videotape waiting for me. Des's style of presenting is already something different. And the opening sequence has changed a bit. But a few things have remained the same, like the music, the set, the gameplay and the right giveaway that the tea-time teasers can be.... How many of you have seen it yet? What are your first (or second, if you've seen today's as well) impressions of it? Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 14:10:43 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In article , "Porpoise" wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message > > > stand by for a rash of sheep jokes. > > Cross a sheep with a kangaroo = a woolly jumper, boom, boom! That line only works in your neck of the woods. Hereabouts we call them "sweaters." -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 14:11:31 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In article , Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > It wasn't me! It was "Frog Prince" ! > > "Charles" > > >| Barley - you forgot the barley. I can grow my own barley and hops, > >| use water from my well and let the beer grow with wild local yeast - > >| the top! > > > > Got a name/logo for this adventure? > > Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... Will you serve androids? -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 14:17:21 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Too big? References: Message-ID: In article , "dwåcôn" wrote: > Read this article: > > http://torontosun.com/News/OtherNews/2005/10/29/1283746-sun.html > > Found it amusing if not a bit incredulous... It'll never stand up in court. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 14:19:47 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo-hoo! Women's Work No More References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dk88nt$ncb$1@news.spamcop.net... | Guys are learning how to do things. I know, I know - .socialite men already | know how ;) | | http://tinyurl.com/bb4nx | | ATHENS, Ga. - University of Georgia student Brandon Esco has faced his share | of razzing for being a nutrition science major - a field traditionally | dominated by women. "You're only in that major because of the girls," is the | most common teasing he's heard. In HS I took a Home Ec class (girl/guy ration infinity/1) I was ragged unmercifully ... until I started calling the course Bachlor Survial 101 and pointed out the numbers. Next semester there were a lot more guys signing up. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 14:48:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 1 14:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" | > | > > stand by for a rash of sheep jokes. | > | > Cross a sheep with a kangaroo = a woolly jumper, boom, boom! | | That line only works in your neck of the woods. Hereabouts we call them | "sweaters." Sweater weather = graphic depiction of surface tension. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 12:04:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 15:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In news:dfm2a3l0t2-585C40.14113101112005@news.cesmail.net, D.F. Manno opined: || In article , || Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: || ||| It wasn't me! It was "Frog Prince" ! |||| "Charles" ||| ||||| Barley - you forgot the barley. I can grow my own barley and ||||| hops, use water from my well and let the beer grow with wild ||||| local yeast - the top! |||| |||| Got a name/logo for this adventure? ||| ||| Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... || || Will you serve androids? No, Luke. They will have to wait outside. -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 1 21:46:36 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 1 16:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Too big? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , "dw?c?n" > wrote: > >> Read this article: >> >> http://torontosun.com/News/OtherNews/2005/10/29/1283746-sun.html >> >> Found it amusing if not a bit incredulous... > > It'll never stand up in court. But if it did stand up in court, it just might help the defense a bit. From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Nov 1 14:36:18 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 1 17:40:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Too big? References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: torontosun.com/News/OtherNews/2005/10/29/1283746-sun.html > It'll never stand up in court. The article had some similar entendres: The lady attorney for the Crown sez: // "It's hardly a two-by-four," she said. She also noted that he has never actually measured himself. Bhangu also said the "size theory" was never put to the complainant on the witness stand for her account. // The author also imposed this responsibility on the lady judge: // Justice Margaret Eberhard must weigh the evidence, including the plastic model. // -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 15:41:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Give or Take a Gazillion Message-ID: Donald Rumsfeld is briefing president Bush: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed." "Oh no!" exclaims the president, "that's terrible!" His staff is stunned at this unprecedented display of emotion, watching as Bush sits, head in hands. Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - begin 666 pix_clear.gif K1TE&.#EA`0`!`( ``/___P```"'Y! 44````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P`` ` end From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 1 18:40:48 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:45:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In article , "kram" wrote: > D.F. Manno opined: > || > || Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > || > ||| It wasn't me! It was "Frog Prince" ! > ||| > |||| Got a name/logo for this adventure? > ||| > ||| Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... > || > || Will you serve androids? > > No, Luke. They will have to wait outside. Wrong movie. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 15:49:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In news:dfm2a3l0t2-83BAD1.18404701112005@news.cesmail.net, D.F. Manno opined: || In article , "kram" || wrote: || ||| D.F. Manno opined: ||||| ||||| Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote: ||||| |||||| It wasn't me! It was "Frog Prince" ! |||||| ||||||| Got a name/logo for this adventure? |||||| |||||| Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... ||||| ||||| Will you serve androids? ||| ||| No, Luke. They will have to wait outside. || || Wrong movie. Who sez? Maybe I'm dreaming ... I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. -- kk - going by the name Ash today ... on Wednesday maybe I'll be Friday == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 15:53:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Give or Take a Gazillion Message-ID: Donald Rumsfeld is briefing president Bush: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed." "Oh no!" exclaims the president, "that's terrible!" His staff is stunned at this unprecedented display of emotion, watching as Bush sits, head in hands. Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 1 23:53:02 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 18:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in news:dk8ush$2tg$1@news.spamcop.net: > I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. How about the term "Politician"? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 15:56:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9701ABC48A99Ainnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61, JohnL opined: || "kram" wrote in || news:dk8ush$2tg$1@news.spamcop.net: || ||| I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. || || How about the term "Politician"? We don't serve their kind in here. -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 2 00:11:19 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-7F515D.14104301112005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> "Frog Prince" wrote in message >> >> > stand by for a rash of sheep jokes. >> >> Cross a sheep with a kangaroo = a woolly jumper, boom, boom! > > That line only works in your neck of the woods. Hereabouts we call them > "sweaters." OK........ So, how about if we cross a sheep with .......... say ............ an electric heater....... ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 2 00:14:47 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dk8ush$2tg$1@news.spamcop.net... > In news:dfm2a3l0t2-83BAD1.18404701112005@news.cesmail.net, > > Who sez? Maybe I'm dreaming ... > > I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. > No, no! You mean humanistically challenged entity........ You have to be *so* PC these days.... ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 19:38:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dk907k$3lt$1@news.spamcop.net... > > OK........ So, how about if we cross a sheep with .......... say > ............ an electric heater....... ;-) I believe that's called "rack of lamb"...........or at the very least a sheep with a coat that's two sizes too small. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 19:41:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dk6ndl$s8m$1@news.spamcop.net... > > actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use of the > term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather old... As are the constant references to Clinton every time Bush & Co. are exposed as a liars - Clinton is in no way relevant to the corruption in the Bush Whitehouse. The horse is long since dead, stop beating it. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 19:55:00 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dk60hs$g7o$1@news.spamcop.net... > Ours are down to 2.31, and that's not even at my secret cheapy station. > Interesting > though, right off the highway, a Gibbs station and an Irving station are > lockstep > with each other's prices, can't tell me there's no collusion. It's about > 4 cents > cheaper in town, too, i.e. further away from the exti ramps. > > Sorry Hun, it has nothing to do with collusion, those stations are close enough to each other that they almost HAVE to match each other's pricing, if not they'll loose too much business over a difference of even 2 cents a gallon. I have worked at many gas stations in my life, and "checking/matching" the other guy's pricing has been the way it's been done for as long as I can remember. I even know of one instance where a gas station that was on the other side of town in Petersburg Indiana was 3 cents a gallon cheaper, and our sales were down by over 500 gallons that day at the swifty station... so it has nothing to do with any conspiracy theory at all... it's just business. Bill From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 19:50:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <02rcm1dj704ctd1shg5uudtmhkp3br1igm@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Frank Tabor" wrote in message news:t26dm1dkipd55tbq0jh5h4v9g65ksfmn0r@4ax.com... > > Because so far it's my damn right to smoke any where that it's not > banned. Regardless of the fact that you're making other people sick, like those who have no choice but to keep their jobs and wait on you all night. How considerate. Geez, can't you understand that my rights remain intact until > you can ban them. You don't have to tolerate anything. Exactly right. I especially don't have to tolerate someone making me sick in a public place where I ALSO have a right to be. What gives you the right to poison the whole place and then tell everyone to fuck off out of there if they don't like it? Were you brought up with NO manners? NO consideration for other people? So what if it's not technically "illegal", don't you give a shit how you affect other people? Are you equally rude with your cell phone? You have the > right to remove yourself from the presence of the smoke. You do not > have the right to make me stop smoking. You don do not have the > right to make me move. Yet, that's the very "right" you keep preaching when you tell ME to leave rather than put the cig out. Hypocrite. > You do know what an analogy is don't you? That's not what started this discussion, actually. Smoking in public places where you affect other people's enjoyment of it is. > You snip too much, it makes it extremely hard to reply to because you > only quote parts of the conversation. That's funny, because I was going to say "why the hell do you need to quote the WHOLE message?" I snip what I'm not replying to, keeps things neat. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 20:00:21 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Tue Nov 1 19:55:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dk7rb2$fds$3@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" > > | >> > | >> DALLAS Oct 27, 2005 - High prices for oil and natural gas propelled > Exxon > | >> Mobil Corp. and Royal Dutch Shell PLC to their best quarterly results > | >> ever > | >> on Thursday, with Exxon becoming the first U.S. company ever to ring > up > | >> quarterly sales of $100 billion. To put Exxon's performance into > | >> perspective, its third quarter revenue was greater than the annual > gross > | >> domestic product of some of the largest oil producing nations, > including > | >> the United Arab Emirates and Kuwait. > | > > | > Makes my blood boil. What are they going to do with these billions > of > | > dollars? > | > Refund us? > | > > | > > | IF they run their business the right way those profits will decrease > | sharply next quarter...in fact, they should show a loss over a quarter > or > | two more..... but with oil speculation dropping the price they may > not... > I > | did hear (on my right wing wacko radio) that there's an investigation > being > | started over this... and I HOPE they get their asses nailed to the wall > if > | they don't do the right thing... > | > > There will be a republican 'come to Jesus' camp meeting. Likely with a > memo > 'to attend a meeting in Washington to address the 'problem' and BTW plan > to > get off your wallets' Paraphrased from a memo sent out by the CoS for a > major Republican Congressman to insurance industry lobbyists. > > Most that will happen is a small part of their wallets will be nailed to a > political campaign contribution wall. > > well nothing personal, but I hope you're way out in left field on that call Bill From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 19:55:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 20:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dk92bo$4sm$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Sorry Hun, > it has nothing to do with collusion, those stations are close enough to > each other that they almost HAVE to match each other's pricing, if not > they'll loose too much business over a difference of even 2 cents a gallon. Oh please, that's bullshit. That's what "COMPETITION" is all about, the guy with the cheapest price wins the customers. If they were at all interested in increasing sales, someone would drop their price by a few cents, then the other guy would have to either match it or suffer. Hence, the prices keep going down and the consumer gets a break and a choice. Somehow, they have decided NOT to compete with each other, and THAT is collusion. so it has nothing to do with any conspiracy theory at all... it's just > business. It's "dirty business". In a real competetive market, the store with the lowest prices wins and there's nothing wrong with that. This isn't a 'real' market, this is a manufactured market, and the price fixing is done with everyone on board. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 2 01:14:41 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 20:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in news:dk92vb$55r$1@news.spamcop.net: > Somehow, they have > decided NOT to compete with each other, and THAT is collusion. That is a thing I STILL find hard to swallow up here. Don't quite know why, but in most cities/towns the price of gas is exactly the same in almost every station, even in the boonies or by the highway. Makes you wonder at times. One station will raise/lower the price and others, sometimes miles away will match it within an hour or so. Even in the "Big City" I've seen not much more that 2 or 3 cents a litre difference across the city, most of the time, but every once in a while you can get gas cheaper just outside the city, right on the highway, where I've always been used to paying more at a location like that. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 20:53:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 1 20:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Something seldom heard Message-ID: and something the Republicans are STILL saying: http://www.startribune.com/stories/562/5702588.html "After the two-year smear campaign orchestrated by senior officials in the Bush White House against my wife and me, it is tempting to feel vindicated by Friday's indictment of the vice president's chief of staff, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby. They used eager allies in Congress and the conservative media, beginning with Novak. Perhaps the most egregious of the attacks was New York GOP Rep. Peter King's odious suggestion that Valerie "got what she deserved." Valerie was an innocent in this whole affair. Although there were suggestions that she was behind the decision to send me to Niger, **the CIA told Newsday just a week after the Novak article appeared that "she did not recommend her husband to undertake the Niger assignment." The CIA repeated the same statement to every reporter thereafter."** And yet, no one seems interested in printing that.... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Tue Nov 1 21:11:03 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Tue Nov 1 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9700CE0C997A4innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Bcs1" wrote in news:dk6mfb$roa$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> again >> JMO >> Bill > > Where you been? > You disappear for days at a time, don't let anyone know, yada, yada, yada. > LOL working at the Board of elections and the gas station LOL 6 am to 6 pm or later Monday thru Friday then 3 pm to 10 pm sat and 2 to 9 Sunday then back at it Monday morning 6 am..... no rest for the wicked... and speaking of wicked...I've been having some major issues with my internet connectivity of late and after a semi scalding email sent to support, they are sending a tech out Friday to fix this issue for me... well I lost connection about 15 times while trying to write this... Night all, I'll be back when I can stay online long enough to read a whole message. *hugs* all Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 2 02:08:54 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 1 21:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dk96qa$70d$1@news.spamcop.net: > working at the Board of elections and the gas station LOL Hmmm, so maybe the elections are full of gas/hot air? From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 00:01:24 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 00:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" | > There will be a republican 'come to Jesus' camp meeting. Likely with a | > memo 'to attend a meeting in Washington to address the 'problem' and BTW plan | > to get off your wallets' Paraphrased from a memo sent out by the CoS for a | > major Republican Congressman to insurance industry lobbyists. | > | > Most that will happen is a small part of their wallets will be nailed to a | > political campaign contribution wall. | > | > | well nothing personal, but I hope you're way out in left field on that call | I grew up on Louisiana/Mississippi/Texas Politics. My family had a lot of experience under the Longs of Louisiana and have been and are deep into the oil patch. I'm betting my estimate is dead on and if you hold any elusions otherwise you're going to be sadder than the rest of us for the ultimate reckoning. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 00:06:22 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 00:10:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "kram" | ||| I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. | || | || How about the term "Politician"? | | We don't serve their kind in here. | Sure they do ... sliced and diced From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 2 05:09:22 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 2 00:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk9hhp$cc2$2 @news.spamcop.net: > > "kram" > >| ||| I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself. >| || >| || How about the term "Politician"? >| >| We don't serve their kind in here. >| > > Sure they do ... sliced and diced > > > But my point was there isn't much more of an "artificial person" than a politician. (and sliced and diced works well for most of them) From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Tue Nov 1 21:41:31 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Wed Nov 2 00:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: What corruption? It's no worse than the past few presidents.. "Heidi" wrote in message news:dk922t$4le$1@news.spamcop.net... > As are the constant references to Clinton every time Bush & Co. are exposed > as a liars - Clinton is in no way relevant to the corruption in the Bush > Whitehouse. The horse is long since dead, stop beating it. > > From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Tue Nov 1 21:43:49 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Wed Nov 2 00:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9700578D05E43spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > That's true. But I think the point is that they could do a lot for their > own image if they'd help out a bit, especially as they were partly to blame > for difficulties faced after the hurricane hit and not only in the directly > affected areas. Sure. I agree with that. :) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 06:49:50 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 01:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: D.F. Manno wrote: > In article , > "Porpoise" wrote: > >> "Frog Prince" wrote in message >> >>> stand by for a rash of sheep jokes. >> Cross a sheep with a kangaroo = a woolly jumper, boom, boom! > > That line only works in your neck of the woods. Hereabouts we call them > "sweaters." I know what people mean when they say jumper, but it is yet another word that I probably will not integrate into my conversations. It just sounds way too goofy. Like what is the image, I'm cold so I put on a sweater and it is better so I jump around in joy or something? Or jumping for joy because the sweater is just so lovely. At least with sweater, you think it can make you warm and sweaty. Hmm, apparently it comes from French and Arabic before that and has nothing to do with jumping, still, I will probably always wear sweaters. http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jum1.htm From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 06:59:26 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 02:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dk6ndl$s8m$1@news.spamcop.net... >> actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use of the >> term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather old... > > As are the constant references to Clinton every time Bush & Co. are exposed > as a liars - Clinton is in no way relevant to the corruption in the Bush > Whitehouse. The horse is long since dead, stop beating it. Sort of insulting too, like somehow I'm not sophisticated enough to be able to think that Shrub has been one of the worst presidents of all time and that Clinton wasn't all that great either, but somehow I'm not able to hold those two thoughts in my head at the same time? It isn't even like they are opposing thoughts either, hey, you totally suck and you over there are just about as bad. Why do they necessarily have to have one of them be wonderful and saintly just because the one who followed was an incompetent fool? From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 07:11:10 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 02:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in message >> >> There will be a republican 'come to Jesus' camp meeting. Likely with a >> memo >> 'to attend a meeting in Washington to address the 'problem' and BTW plan >> to >> get off your wallets' Paraphrased from a memo sent out by the CoS for a >> major Republican Congressman to insurance industry lobbyists. >> >> Most that will happen is a small part of their wallets will be nailed to a >> political campaign contribution wall. >> > well nothing personal, but I hope you're way out in left field on that call If wishes were horses and blah blah blah. We can pretend we live in our own little dream world but in reality a lot of it is pretty ugly. And let me guess in this case, it is going to have some really wonderful sounding name for the program like the Healthy Oil Competition Initiative Endowment or something like that. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 07:29:40 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 02:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stewart Gordon wrote: > (Continuing the latest trend in subject lines....) > > Yesterday, Countdown came back after a few months of absence. So far > I've only seen the first one, but the second one is on the videotape > waiting for me. > > Des's style of presenting is already something different. And the > opening sequence has changed a bit. But a few things have remained the > same, like the music, the set, the gameplay and the right giveaway that > the tea-time teasers can be.... > > How many of you have seen it yet? What are your first (or second, if > you've seen today's as well) impressions of it? So, what is it? The description refers me to Watch It pg 64 which refers me to Watch It pg 58 which then says, as far as I can tell, it is some sort of game show. So, why is it good then? I guess I could tape it today to see. But I don't know, it is up against a Perry Mason film. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 2 08:41:46 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Nov 2 03:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dk9nif$f20$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I know what people mean when they say jumper, but it is yet another word > that I probably will not integrate into my conversations. It just sounds > way too goofy. Like what is the image, I'm cold so I put on a sweater and > it is better so I jump around in joy or something? Or jumping for joy > because the sweater is just so lovely. At least with sweater, you think > it can make you warm and sweaty. > > Hmm, apparently it comes from French and Arabic before that and has > nothing to do with jumping, still, I will probably always wear sweaters. > http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jum1.htm Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 2 10:33:11 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Wed Nov 2 05:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > So, what is it? The description refers me to Watch It pg 64 which > refers me to Watch It pg 58 which then says, as far as I can tell, it is > some sort of game show. So, why is it good then? I guess I could tape > it today to see. But I don't know, it is up against a Perry Mason film. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(game_show) http://www.ukgameshows.com/index.php/Countdown Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 11:16:32 2005 From: 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com (Charles) Date: Wed Nov 2 06:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was JohnL ! > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in > news:Xns97017C7139D34TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > >> Of course. Electric Sheep Brewing... > > Speaking of that, where's your X-face? ...lost...in....SPACE!!!!!!!! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 06:46:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Nov 2 06:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message > > That is a thing I STILL find hard to swallow up here. > > Don't quite know why, but in most cities/towns the price of gas is exactly > the same in almost every station, even in the boonies or by the highway. > Makes you wonder at times. One station will raise/lower the price and > others, sometimes miles away will match it within an hour or so. > Even in the "Big City" I've seen not much more that 2 or 3 cents a litre > difference across the city, most of the time, but every once in a while you > can get gas cheaper just outside the city, right on the highway, where I've > always been used to paying more at a location like that. In an interesting contrast, where I ususally get my gas in Seabrook (about 10 miles away from the stations I pass on the way to work) there is rampant competition, sometimes as much as a difference of .5 a gallon, and the cheapest is one of the "no name" stations, while Shell and Getty are across the street from each other and are almost always the same. From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 06:50:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Nov 2 06:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! References: Message-ID: "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message news:dk8bae$ojt$1@news.spamcop.net... > (Continuing the latest trend in subject lines....) > > Yesterday, Countdown came back after a few months of absence. So far > I've only seen the first one, but the second one is on the videotape > waiting for me. > > Des's style of presenting is already something different. And the > opening sequence has changed a bit. But a few things have remained the > same, like the music, the set, the gameplay and the right giveaway that > the tea-time teasers can be.... > > How many of you have seen it yet? What are your first (or second, if > you've seen today's as well) impressions of it? We've never gotten it over here, that I know of, we're still getting reruns of Weakest Link and that stupid game show where someone knows all the answers and people have to try to guess which one's the liar. Nigel Lithgow is downright creepy. Game show hosts in Britain are unbelievably goofy, far too cheery and chatty - even the host of Most Haunted Live last weekend was ridiculously smiley, looked like a very happy toy-boy. For a bunch of stiff-upper lippers, the contrast is just WEIRD... ;) From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 2 12:14:39 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Wed Nov 2 07:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Berny wrote: > "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message > news:dk7eka$8i0$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Do portions of gas (as you call it) come in a standard size over where >> you are? > > Gallons (USGallons = 0.8 imperial) where he is So in other words, 33 pence per litre. Can anyone remember the times when petrol was this cheap here in the UK? This is weird: if I type in Google "$2.19 per gallon in pounds per litre", it automatically assumes I mean USD 2.19 per US gallon. But if I replace the $ with a ?, it correctly guesses what kind of pound I had in mind, but still assumes a US gallon. And this is google.co.uk as well.... Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 07:33:48 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Wed Nov 2 07:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Chris F. Willoughby" wrote in message news:dk9ji1$d9e$1@news.spamcop.net... What corruption? It's no worse than the past few presidents.. Perhaps not. But it is certainly more blatant and less sensitive to exposure. Also, while Clinton's affairs were certainly not something that the US should condone in a President, Clinton's affairs and subsequent lies were not responsible for the deaths of thousands of people. The willingness to allow such lies may have led to the expectation that larger lies would be accepted by the electorate, however. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 00:15:15 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 08:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Too big? References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" | >> | >> http://torontosun.com/News/OtherNews/2005/10/29/1283746-sun.html | >> | >> Found it amusing if not a bit incredulous... | > | > It'll never stand up in court. | | But if it did stand up in court, it just might help the defense a bit. You're claming it;'s big enough to suport de fence? From smjg_1998 at yahoo.com Wed Nov 2 13:06:27 2005 From: smjg_1998 at yahoo.com (Stewart Gordon) Date: Wed Nov 2 08:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > We've never gotten it over here, that I know of, we're still getting reruns > of Weakest Link and that stupid game show where someone knows all the > answers and people have to try to guess which one's the liar. Nigel Lithgow > is downright creepy. Sounds like a programme don't have over here ... or is The Enemy Within what you're thinking of? Stewart. -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS/M d- s:- C++@ a->--- UB@ P+ L E@ W++@ N+++ o K-@ w++@ O? M V? PS- PE- Y? PGP- t- 5? X? R b DI? D G e++>++++ h-- r-- !y ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ My e-mail is valid but not my primary mailbox. Please keep replies on the 'group where everyone may benefit. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 2 14:18:12 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Nov 2 09:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message news:dkaajf$op1$1@news.spamcop.net... > Berny wrote: >> "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message >> news:dk7eka$8i0$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Do portions of gas (as you call it) come in a standard size over where >>> you are? >> >> Gallons (USGallons = 0.8 imperial) where he is > > So in other words, 33 pence per litre. Can anyone remember the times when > petrol was this cheap here in the UK? > > This is weird: if I type in Google "$2.19 per gallon in pounds per litre", > it automatically assumes I mean USD 2.19 per US gallon. But if I replace > the $ with a £, it correctly guesses what kind of pound I had in mind, but > still assumes a US gallon. And this is google.co.uk as well.... > Try this: convert $2.19 per gallon to pounds per litre http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=convert+%242.19+per+gallon+to+pounds+per+litre&btnG=Search&meta=. which gives: (US$ 2.19) per US gallon = 0.327467477 British pounds per litre From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 09:38:01 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 09:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! References: Message-ID: "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message news:dkadkj$qag$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Sounds like a programme don't have over here ... or is The Enemy Within > what you're thinking of? That's the one, my pre-coffee brain couldn't remember the title. I rarely watched it anyway, the fake melodrama was really OTT. I see Nigel Lithgow has made it to Hollywood now, something to do with American Idol, I think. Icky.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 10:11:50 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 10:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Charles" <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9701535877966TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61... > > I'm actually only a purported bwvet. Sure, I rarely eat meat, but I don't > really have a problem with it... Youuu....you......PURPORT! I always knew there was something shady about you..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 10:17:45 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 10:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dk9u54$ijg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() Is that a cow, or a potato? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Wed Nov 2 16:31:55 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Wed Nov 2 11:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkaldf$udk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dk9u54$ijg$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() > > Is that a cow, or a potato? > No. A woolly one: From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 11:40:03 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 11:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dkapn4$13i$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > news:dkaldf$udk$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > > news:dk9u54$ijg$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> > >> > >> Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() > > > > Is that a cow, or a potato? > > > > No. A woolly one: Oh, a jacket potato then..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 11:42:04 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 11:45:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: tip of the day References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970254F563C6Aspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > blow it out before you drink it > > http://www.kookybycaron.com/flamingshots.gif ROFL...I can sympathize with his problem. A couple of weeks ago I was making beef bourgignon, added the cognac which I was then supposed to burn off. Suffice it to say that was a MUCH bigger fire than I was expecting......."oh shit oh shit oh shit!!".... Thankfully the pot lid was right nearby! From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 09:20:19 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Nov 2 12:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: In news:Xns97025D3946B4Espamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || "kram" wrote in || news:dk8v4b$31s$1@news.spamcop.net: || || ||| Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" ||| ||| || || I think we already did that one here. But you're not around much so || we'll forgive you ;o) Thanks for the magnanimity. I will try to keep up from now on ;) -- kk == We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style. - Tom Stoppard - From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 18:29:37 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Stewart Gordon wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> So, what is it? The description refers me to Watch It pg 64 which >> refers me to Watch It pg 58 which then says, as far as I can tell, it >> is some sort of game show. So, why is it good then? I guess I could >> tape it today to see. But I don't know, it is up against a Perry >> Mason film. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(game_show) > http://www.ukgameshows.com/index.php/Countdown Ok, so very much straight game show then. I'm not really into game shows. Oh, I like them if they are cheezy sleazy dating game shows like Temptation Island (although not that crappy Fancy Me Island, that sucked). Or I like the ones that are not so much game shows like Never Mind the Buzzcocks or Have I Got News For You?. Apparently there is one like that on Radio 4 that people keep telling me I would like but I never see it in the listings. And besides, my video recorder seems to crash when I program it to tape radio stuff. But just normal game shows seem a bit boring to me. Hmm, http://www.ukgameshows.com/index.php/Good_Game_Guide_1_Top_30_Game_Shows that Treasure Hunt, I assume that isn't like the 70s US one. That show was just totally cruel and mean, they so abused the contestants with just total crap prizes. Wasn't there one here that would give away used tea bags as prizes? From blacklist-me at davjam.org Wed Nov 2 18:11:54 2005 From: blacklist-me at davjam.org (David Bolt) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:35:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Stewart Gordon wrote:- >Berny wrote: >> "Stewart Gordon" wrote in message >> news:dk7eka$8i0$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> Do portions of gas (as you call it) come in a standard size over where >>> you are? >> Gallons (USGallons = 0.8 imperial) where he is > >So in other words, 33 pence per litre. Can anyone remember the times >when petrol was this cheap here in the UK? IIRC, somewhere around 1990-1992. It cost me a whole ?1.50-?2.00 per week when I was using my moped. >This is weird: if I type in Google "$2.19 per gallon in pounds per >litre", it automatically assumes I mean USD 2.19 per US gallon. But if >I replace the $ with a ?, it correctly guesses what kind of pound I had >in mind, but still assumes a US gallon. And this is google.co.uk as >well.... A few days ago, and for the first time in too many years to remember, I actually saw a petrol station that had the price per gallon alongside the price per litre. It was an Asda garage, close to the bus/railway station in Barnsley and, while I was only able to glance at the price as I sped past, it had the price per gallon at around ?4.10. Given the price generally being about ?0.909 per litre, the price they had up was most likely ?4.13. Adjusting for different sized gallons, and taking the $/? as about $1.72/?1.00, gives an equivalent of about $5.68 per US gallon. Regards, David Bolt -- Member of Team Acorn checking nodes at 50 Mnodes/s: http://www.distributed.net/ AMD1800 1Gb WinXP/SuSE 9.3 | AMD1300 512Mb SuSE 9.0 | AMD2400 256Mb SuSE 9.0 AMD2400 192Mb SuSE 10.0 | Falcon 14Mb TOS 4.02 | STE 4Mb TOS 1.62 RPC600 129Mb RISCOS 3.6 | A3010 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 | A4000 4Mb RISCOS 3.11 From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:11:18 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:35:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: "kram" | || | ||| Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" | ||| | ||| | || | || I think we already did that one here. But you're not around much so | || we'll forgive you ;o) | | Thanks for the magnanimity. I will try to keep up from now on ;) Good luck. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 2 18:40:46 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dkb0o0$5h3$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "kram" >| Thanks for the magnanimity. I will try to keep up from now on ;) > > Good luck. > You'll need it. ;-) From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Nov 2 13:42:49 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:45:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <02rcm1dj704ctd1shg5uudtmhkp3br1igm@4ax.com> Message-ID: In article , Frank Tabor wrote: > Because so far it's my damn right to smoke any where that it's not > banned. There is no right to smoke cigarettes any more than there is a right to use marijuana, heroin, cocaine, crystal meth, etc. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 18:43:01 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:45:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! In-Reply-To: References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "kram" wrote in news:dk5kj0$95m$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> So my - yes I am one of those 'disgusting' people - butts are going to >> be around longer than Kerry's banana peels ;) but less than >> everybody's old boots. > > You must be right at home in Vegas then LOL And you people are just so funny with your banana peels. Figures the kind of people who would eat bananas are just going to throw the peels on the ground. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Nov 2 13:49:42 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: In article , Sylvesterthekat wrote: > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article? > f=/c/a/2005/10/30/MNG2NFF7KI1.DTL&o=2 > > you have to wonder why, having chosen the bridge as your jumping off point, > you'd not walk to the middle so you land in the water If someone is capable of that kind of reasoning, s/he wouldn't be attempting suicide in the first place. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:50:56 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 13:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: "kram" wrote in message news:dkasei$2ts$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Thanks for the magnanimity. Ouch. Big word. My brain hurts....where's my dictionary....... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:54:06 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9702616CD23F0spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > No, stick him in Abu Ghraib for a few years without telling anyone Apparently the CIA has a lot of secret prisons we don't know about and that aren't accountable to anyone - one of those would do fine..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:54:44 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970261D71DCDEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > FORTY? Good grief! Land must be cheaper up there! You'll need the mule just > to patrol your borders ;o) He prolly does, gotta keep those Hosers from crossing the border and invading! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:55:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:00:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970267661FEB5spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > I guess nobody was moulting then! Or molting, even... ;D From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:56:13 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dkb1bm$5s5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > And you people are just so funny with your banana peels. Figures the > kind of people who would eat bananas are just going to throw the peels > on the ground. How do you think Benny Hill got started? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 13:58:56 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970256083F45Dspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article? > f=/c/a/2005/10/30/MNG2NFF7KI1.DTL&o=2 > > you have to wonder why, having chosen the bridge as your jumping off point, > you'd not walk to the middle so you land in the water Looks like most people have managed to hit the middle - the ones on land, are these all strictly jumping deaths? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 14:03:23 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:05:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dk9o4f$f9u$1@news.spamcop.net... > Sort of insulting too, like somehow I'm not sophisticated enough to be > able to think that Shrub has been one of the worst presidents of all > time and that Clinton wasn't all that great either, but somehow I'm not > able to hold those two thoughts in my head at the same time? It isn't > even like they are opposing thoughts either, hey, you totally suck and > you over there are just about as bad. Why do they necessarily have to > have one of them be wonderful and saintly just because the one who > followed was an incompetent fool? It's the whole deflection thing. Let's not talk about what our idiot did wrong, or how he lied and misled the American public, let's talk about everyone else's mistakes, however irrelevant, and direct that focus over there on the other side of the aisle. Kind of like what they're doing now: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1151AP_Senate_Iraq.html WASHINGTON -- The White House sought to deflect politically charged questions Wednesday about President Bush's use of prewar intelligence in Iraq, saying Democrats, too, had concluded Saddam Hussein was a threat. "If Democrats want to talk about the threat that Saddam Hussein posed and the intelligence, they might want to start with looking at the previous administration and their own statements that they've made," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. He said the Clinton administration and fellow Democrats "used the intelligence to come to the same conclusion that Saddam Hussein and his regime were a threat." McClellan made his comments one day after Senate Democrats sprung a surprise, forcing a rare closed-door session to dramatize their charge that Bush relied on faulty intelligence in the run-up to war and congressional Republicans have failed to sufficiently investigate." I love the forced Closed Door Session - 'bout time someone stopped letting them sweep this shit under the rug. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 14:06:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 14:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dk9nif$f20$1@news.spamcop.net... > Hmm, apparently it comes from French and Arabic before that and has > nothing to do with jumping, still, I will probably always wear sweaters. > http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-jum1.htm Well, this makes sense. Not. "The origin has nothing to do with the verb to jump, but comes from the dialect jump or jup, meaning a man's short coat or a woman's under-bodice or tunic. " How can it be both under and outerwear? Silly Billy Brits... From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 20:01:39 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 15:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! In-Reply-To: References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:dkb1bm$5s5$1@news.spamcop.net... >> And you people are just so funny with your banana peels. Figures the >> kind of people who would eat bananas are just going to throw the peels >> on the ground. > > How do you think Benny Hill got started? Ah ha, so I can blame Benny Hill on bananas? Doesn't it figure, but it makes sense. A nasty food and an unfunny comedian. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 20:08:33 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 15:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message > news:dk9o4f$f9u$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Sort of insulting too, like somehow I'm not sophisticated enough to be >> able to think that Shrub has been one of the worst presidents of all >> time and that Clinton wasn't all that great either, but somehow I'm not >> able to hold those two thoughts in my head at the same time? It isn't >> even like they are opposing thoughts either, hey, you totally suck and >> you over there are just about as bad. Why do they necessarily have to >> have one of them be wonderful and saintly just because the one who >> followed was an incompetent fool? > > It's the whole deflection thing. Let's not talk about what our idiot did wrong, or > how he lied and misled the American public, let's talk about everyone else's > mistakes, however irrelevant, and direct that focus over there on the other side of > the aisle. Kind of like what they're doing now: It is deflection, but I also see it as part of the problem. If Clinton equals bad then Bush must equal good. It is a rather simplistic way of looking at the world. But shut up people, see you have a choice, you should be happy. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Wed Nov 2 20:13:52 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Wed Nov 2 15:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Woo, hoo! Countdown back on UK screens! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > Who is the bint in this picture with Des? > > http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/C/countdown/ > > Certainly looks nothing like Carol Vorderman! > > Doesn't Des do sport on TV any more? Ok, I taped it and watched it today. Well, I watched about 15 minutes before I got bored. I guess it really isn't my kind of show. I like words and all that but I guess I'm not very excited about scrambling the letters up. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 15:16:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Wed Nov 2 15:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Classic Bush Message-ID: "Look what we're doing to fight bird flu". We're sticking it right up your arses, that's what..... http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/246785_flu02.html President Bush's $7.1 billion strategy to prepare for a possible worldwide superflu outbreak was greeted with some skepticism by Washington state public health officials, who said there is not enough emphasis on beefing up state and local health resources. The president's strategy earmarks $100 million of the $7.1 billion proposal for state and local preparedness. But the administration's budget had already reduced funding for state and local health departments by $130 million so the proposal actually still represents a cut in funding of some $30 million, Selecky said. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Nov 2 12:58:43 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 2 16:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > President Bush's $7.1 billion strategy to prepare for a possible > worldwide superflu outbreak was greeted with some skepticism by > Washington state public health officials, who said there is not > enough emphasis on beefing up state and local health resources. Er...isn't that the responsibility of the state and local health boards, not the feds? If the federal government can deficit spend and get into huge amounts of debt, why can't the state and local governments do that? (Note: This is not entirely serious -- I don't think that deficit spending is valid except in the most exigent circumstances like total war [i.e. WWII-type things] and other similar events.) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Wed Nov 2 13:10:50 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Wed Nov 2 16:15:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Pluto has three moons! Message-ID: They just found two more! Cool! http://www.boulder.swri.edu/plutonews/ From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 14:56:27 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Wed Nov 2 18:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: In news:Xns970261A7412DEspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || "kram" wrote in || news:dk5kj0$95m$1@news.spamcop.net: || || ||| So my - yes I am one of those 'disgusting' people - butts are going ||| to be around longer than Kerry's banana peels ;) but less than ||| everybody's old boots. ||| || || You must be right at home in Vegas then LOL Even _this_ town gets uppity about smoking when you get outside of the casinos. This town has got to be the strangest city I have ever been in. It's grown so fast, it's like a gangly teenager. Trying to balance urbanity with schlock or vice versa. It trips over it's feet alot. But the anti-smokers are here now, all State and City owned space is non-smoking, along with malls and such (unless you go to the malls attached to the casinos - sort of an all-you-can-spend proposition). I haven't heard anyone propose banning smoking in the casinos though ... I don't think that would go over well ;) -- kk == Life's not fair, but the root password helps. From nospam at dev.null Thu Nov 3 00:58:53 2005 From: nospam at dev.null (No Spam) Date: Wed Nov 2 18:00:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] duty calls Message-ID: Hi All http://aa419.org/flashmobs/current-mob.php Do your part in shutting a few 419 related fake banksites. Cheers E From MikeE at ster.invalid Wed Nov 2 15:08:27 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Wed Nov 2 18:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > http://www.boulder.swri.edu/plutonews/ Here's an article about Pluto's other moons [sorta] written in 2003 May. http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/plutos_moons_030506.html Pluto's Other Moons: Why They Might Exist and Who's Looking Charon doesn't really orbit around Pluto. Both Charon and Pluto orbit around a point 'outside of' ie not 'in' or of Pluto.- ie the barycenter of the two bodies is what both Pluto and Charon orbit around. So/And, the two new moons also don't orbit Pluto -- they orbit the Pluto-Charon barycenter or 'complex' point in space. Which point itself is orbiting the Sun in a very peculiar way. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 18:31:42 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 18:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: <6tc2m1hegkbma2jnun9n403lkadsrm1u4l@4ax.com> Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dkb5v3$8l8$1@news.spamcop.net... | Spamvireslayer wrote: | > "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message | > news:dkb1bm$5s5$1@news.spamcop.net... | >> And you people are just so funny with your banana peels. Figures the | >> kind of people who would eat bananas are just going to throw the peels | >> on the ground. | > | > How do you think Benny Hill got started? | | Ah ha, so I can blame Benny Hill on bananas? Doesn't it figure, but it | makes sense. A nasty food and an unfunny comedian. The bananas peels (or peals) stick goes back to Charlie Chapland. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 18:35:01 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 18:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | | > President Bush's $7.1 billion strategy to prepare for a possible | > worldwide superflu outbreak was greeted with some skepticism by | > Washington state public health officials, who said there is not | > enough emphasis on beefing up state and local health resources. | | Er...isn't that the responsibility of the state and local health boards, | not the feds? | | If the federal government can deficit spend and get into huge amounts of | debt, why can't the state and local governments do that? (Note: This is | not entirely serious -- I don't think that deficit spending is valid | except in the most exigent circumstances like total war [i.e. WWII-type | things] and other similar events.) Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Nov 2 17:04:18 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 2 20:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. And why do the feds (presumably) not have a similar restriction? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:07:10 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:dk92vb$55r$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dk92bo$4sm$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Sorry Hun, >> it has nothing to do with collusion, those stations are close enough to >> each other that they almost HAVE to match each other's pricing, if not >> they'll loose too much business over a difference of even 2 cents a > gallon. > > Oh please, that's bullshit. nope, that's just the way it is.... if my gas station lowers it's price... then you can bet $ that they guy across the street, or down the street will too, and if I raise mine due to an increase in my cost, you can bet $ he's gonna raise his too... regardless of whether or not his cost has increased........... so I'll say it again that's just how it's done........ Bill PS. I'm not gonna say that if one station can lower his price and beat the other guy out of some sales he's not gonna do it... but that's rarely the case. especially in the non franchised stations..... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:09:46 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9701B99C59196innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Heidi" wrote in news:dk92vb$55r$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> Somehow, they have >> decided NOT to compete with each other, and THAT is collusion. > > That is a thing I STILL find hard to swallow up here. > > Don't quite know why, but in most cities/towns the price of gas is exactly > the same in almost every station, even in the boonies or by the highway. > Makes you wonder at times. One station will raise/lower the price and > others, sometimes miles away will match it within an hour or so. > Even in the "Big City" I've seen not much more that 2 or 3 cents a litre > difference across the city, most of the time, but every once in a while > you > can get gas cheaper just outside the city, right on the highway, where > I've > always been used to paying more at a location like that. that is unusual, mostly the fuel's more expensive nearer the highway than in the town...unless the station in town is one that doesn't get the price break that a guy selling 100K gallons a month does. but the rest of your reply is right on the money price watching/matching is very heavy in that type business. Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:18:35 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: hey heidi... guess who's posted record profits? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9701C2CDEB506innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Bcs1" wrote in news:dk96qa$70d$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> working at the Board of elections and the gas station LOL > > Hmmm, so maybe the elections are full of gas/hot air? > LOL actually there's a whole slew of checks and balances involved that I had never even thought about...like one area if we go into that area a dem and a rep representative has to accompany us, otherwise it's off limits, and that applies to everyone, not just us contractors, and the machine L&A is very intensive, we've voted this entire election through once already with prestated selections that had to be made, just so the database can tabulate the results, and if they don't match the expected results (based on the selections we were told to make) then that whole precinct has to be redone, and if that machine fails L&A then it gets replaced. pretty cool in my book. Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 02:18:41 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkbr3t$jh1$1@news.spamcop.net: > that is unusual, mostly the fuel's more expensive nearer the highway > than > in the town...unless the station in town is one that doesn't get the > price break that a guy selling 100K gallons a month does. > but the rest of your reply is right on the money price > watching/matching is > very heavy in that type business. Well, a few years ago, when the price was lower, like 1/3 less then now, almost anywhere I went in Alberta the price for gas was exactly the same! Honestly, big city, small town, out in the boonies or on the highway, no difference in pricing. It's only been in the past few years that pricing has seemed a little "competitive". When it was all the same all over, no one seemed bothered by it, besides me. :) From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:28:30 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:dk922t$4le$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dk6ndl$s8m$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use of >> the >> term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather old... > > As are the constant references to Clinton every time Bush & Co. are > exposed > as a liars - Clinton is in no way relevant to the corruption in the Bush > Whitehouse. The horse is long since dead, stop beating it. > > I don't bring Clinton up every time someone says bush lied, in fact I personally have mostly brought him up only when it's relevant to my reply. and of course we all know there was never any corruption in the Clinton administration LOL From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:21:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:25:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dkb6c2$8um$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It is deflection, but I also see it as part of the problem. If Clinton > equals bad then Bush must equal good. It is a rather simplistic way of > looking at the world. But shut up people, see you have a choice, you > should be happy. "Simplistic" is exactly why Bush got reelected. People don't think, they listen to whatever crap his machine is broadcasting and swallow it whole. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:36:20 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dk9o4f$f9u$1@news.spamcop.net... > Heidi wrote: >> "Bcs1" wrote in message >> news:dk6ndl$s8m$1@news.spamcop.net... >>> actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use of >>> the >>> term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather old... >> >> As are the constant references to Clinton every time Bush & Co. are >> exposed >> as a liars - Clinton is in no way relevant to the corruption in the Bush >> Whitehouse. The horse is long since dead, stop beating it. > > Sort of insulting too, like somehow I'm not sophisticated enough to be > able to think that Shrub has been one of the worst presidents of all time > and that Clinton wasn't all that great either, but somehow I'm not able to > hold those two thoughts in my head at the same time? It isn't even like > they are opposing thoughts either, hey, you totally suck and you over > there are just about as bad. Why do they necessarily have to have one of > them be wonderful and saintly just because the one who followed was an > incompetent fool? my post was nothing pointed to any one person... it was just a statement of part of bush's sources of info....... and the fact that those sources seem to me to often be forgotten,,,, that's all. as to the other replies concerning the sources of the info, I can't for one minute believe that in a little over a year after the WTC bombing that any administration could collect the amount of info that would be needed to present such a case, additionally resolution 1440 (I think) wasn't formed in less time, in fact saddam and his dodging of things had been going on for what? 12 years?... another fact that seems to be "left out" conveniently. but no, my post wasn't meant to demean anyone, just to point out something that's blatantly obvious in many conversations...not just the ones here. Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:38:12 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:35:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" <35zyuhr02@sneakemail.com> wrote in message news:dkb6c2$8um$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It is deflection, but I also see it as part of the problem. If Clinton > equals bad then Bush must equal good. It is a rather simplistic way of > looking at the world. But shut up people, see you have a choice, you > should be happy. well I for one don't see it like that...but I'm sure some folks do. I have issues with them both LOL Bill From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:49:04 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" | | > Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. | | And why do the feds (presumably) not have a similar restriction? No idea but dems the facts. From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 21:51:58 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 2 21:55:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9702C47697684innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... | "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkbr3t$jh1$1@news.spamcop.net: | | > that is unusual, mostly the fuel's more expensive nearer the highway | > than | > in the town...unless the station in town is one that doesn't get the | > price break that a guy selling 100K gallons a month does. | > but the rest of your reply is right on the money price | > watching/matching is | > very heavy in that type business. | | Well, a few years ago, when the price was lower, like 1/3 less then now, | almost anywhere I went in Alberta the price for gas was exactly the same! | Honestly, big city, small town, out in the boonies or on the highway, no | difference in pricing. It's only been in the past few years that pricing | has seemed a little "competitive". | When it was all the same all over, no one seemed bothered by it, besides | me. :) Consider that most of the fuel transport is via one pipelone and local terminal. When the local termain says frog ... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 03:10:04 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 2 22:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dkbu2j$l4j$2 @news.spamcop.net: > Consider that most of the fuel transport is via one pipelone and local > terminal. When the local termain says frog ... But up here in Alberta, the gas is shipped out. The pipeline _starts_ here. FWIU, gas is sold to companies in the States at a LOWER price than what it's sold up here. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 22:28:42 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 2 22:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Any Stargate fans? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:djrisu$2ea$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > David Dean wrote: >> Look at her eyes in two two pictures. >> >> >> >> > > Stargate? I see a mutated picture of Condi Rice at that URL. > > yeah that's how a Goa'uld's host's eyes look when the Goa'uld takes charge of the body (or wants to show off) LOL Bill From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Nov 2 22:25:42 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Nov 2 22:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: In article , "Bcs1" wrote: > I don't bring Clinton up every time someone says bush lied, in fact I > personally have mostly brought him up only when it's relevant to my reply. > and of course we all know there was never any corruption in the Clinton > administration LOL Clinton's been out of office for four years, nine months, 13 days, 10 hours and 25 minutes (as I write this). What corruption there was is over. It's a dead issue to everyone except those seeking to whitewash the Shrub's performance in office. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From six.million at dollar.man Wed Nov 2 22:28:07 2005 From: six.million at dollar.man (dwåcôn) Date: Wed Nov 2 22:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Over There is Over... Message-ID: ABC (http://tinyurl.com/77puc) reports that Chris Gerolmo and Steven Bochco's Iraq war series "Over There" will not be renewed for a second season. So we will never learn if Smoke goes back to Compton or does something with his life... or if Mrs. B gets her life together... or if Sgt. Scream regrets his re-upping or if he gets together with the French woman... WAH! It is sad that an intelligent show that addressed an unpopular war in an unbiased manner didn't catch on with the American viewing public. Or, maybe that was the issue? -- Jennifer Lopez Lingerie *plus* Gourmet Goodies www.cafepress.com/dwacon From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Nov 2 22:30:46 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Nov 2 22:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. > > And why do the feds (presumably) not have a similar restriction? As somebody just said, "I don't think that deficit spending is valid except in the most exigent circumstances like total war [i.e. WWII-type things] and other similar events." With such a restriction, you can't deal with exigent circumstances. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com But I'd rather be a free man in my grave Than living as a puppet or a slave. -Jimmy Cliff From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 22:58:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Nov 2 23:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dkbqv1$jdj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > nope, that's just the way it is.... if my gas station lowers it's price... > then you can bet $ that they guy across the street, or down the street will > too, and if I raise mine due to an increase in my cost, you can bet $ he's > gonna raise his too... regardless of whether or not his cost has > increased........... At best that's collusion, at worst it's outright price fixing and or gouging. > PS. I'm not gonna say that if one station can lower his price and beat the > other guy out of some sales he's not gonna do it... but that's rarely the > case. especially in the non franchised stations..... Yeah, there's a name for it, it's called "honor among thieves." From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Wed Nov 2 23:13:03 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Wed Nov 2 23:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message news:pete+usenet-995B24.17041802112005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , > "Frog Prince" wrote: > >> Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. > > And why do the feds (presumably) not have a similar restriction? > Unfortunately, this was overlooked in the Constitution, but it wouldn't be terribly difficult to address, i.e., require a 2/3 majority for any appropriations bill. A simple majority for spending is totally ineffective at controlling spending. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Wed Nov 2 20:46:11 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 2 23:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "D.F. Manno" wrote: > As somebody just said, "I don't think that deficit spending is valid > except in the most exigent circumstances like total war [i.e. > WWII-type things] and other similar events." With such a restriction, > you can't deal with exigent circumstances. Why not? There's plenty of policies in the government that restrict government behavior except during certain circumstances. Take, for example, habeas corpus -- the government can suspend habeas corpus in certain, limited circumstances. Why not have the same requirement for deficit spending? -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 09:45:34 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 04:50:54 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "David Dean" wrote in message news:ozchzhq02-0E6725.14195202112005@frylock.local... > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > >> Looks like most people have managed to hit the middle - the ones on land, >> are >> these >> all strictly jumping deaths? > > They're all supposed to be suicides. Why are there so many more on > the south side than the north? They couldn't be bothered to walk to the other side???? ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 09:53:39 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 04:55:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: "Mike Easter" wrote in message news:dkbgta$ebj$1@news.spamcop.net... > Borgholio wrote: >> http://www.boulder.swri.edu/plutonews/ > > Here's an article about Pluto's other moons [sorta] written in 2003 May. > http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/plutos_moons_030506.html Pluto's > Other Moons: Why They Might Exist and Who's Looking > > Charon doesn't really orbit around Pluto. Both Charon and Pluto orbit > around a point 'outside of' ie not 'in' or of Pluto.- ie the barycenter > of the two bodies is what both Pluto and Charon orbit around. > > So/And, the two new moons also don't orbit Pluto -- they orbit the > Pluto-Charon barycenter or 'complex' point in space. > > Which point itself is orbiting the Sun in a very peculiar way. > Pardon? 8>)( From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 05:52:31 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Nov 3 05:50:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "D.F. Manno" wrote in message news:dfm2a3l0t2-29A317.22254202112005@news.cesmail.net... > In article , "Bcs1" > wrote: > >> I don't bring Clinton up every time someone says bush lied, in fact I >> personally have mostly brought him up only when it's relevant to my >> reply. >> and of course we all know there was never any corruption in the Clinton >> administration LOL > > Clinton's been out of office for four years, nine months, 13 days, 10 > hours and > 25 minutes (as I write this). What corruption there was is over. It's a > dead > issue to everyone except those seeking to whitewash the Shrub's > performance in > office. Yes, he has been gone for a while. The thing is there's always elements of procedure, dept heads, intel and many other things that carry from one administration to the next no matter who's administration it is.... just as there are things from this administration that will carry over to the next one... that's just a fact and while that fact remains solid and true, I wonder if the critics of that administration will have such a short term memory that they too will forget the problems that will be in part brought on by Bush's administrations actions in favor of directing their criticisms at the new administration? Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 05:59:40 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Nov 3 05:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9702C47697684innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkbr3t$jh1$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> that is unusual, mostly the fuel's more expensive nearer the highway >> than >> in the town...unless the station in town is one that doesn't get the >> price break that a guy selling 100K gallons a month does. >> but the rest of your reply is right on the money price >> watching/matching is >> very heavy in that type business. > > Well, a few years ago, when the price was lower, like 1/3 less then now, > almost anywhere I went in Alberta the price for gas was exactly the same! > Honestly, big city, small town, out in the boonies or on the highway, no > difference in pricing. It's only been in the past few years that pricing > has seemed a little "competitive". > When it was all the same all over, no one seemed bothered by it, besides > me. :) yeah LOL I remember Petersburg's gas was always about 3 to 4 cents a gallon higher than Washington's or Jasper's for that matter, but when asking why?, it was always vaguely answered about location and transportation ect, but 10 miles down the road at the Pike junction it was about 7 cent or so higher, and they said they didn't get the "break" the guys in town did... then go 5 more miles to Winslow, and it was almost the same price as Petersburg.... LOL morning John Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 06:07:44 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Thu Nov 3 06:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:dkc20h$ncm$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dkbqv1$jdj$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> nope, that's just the way it is.... if my gas station lowers it's >> price... >> then you can bet $ that they guy across the street, or down the street > will >> too, and if I raise mine due to an increase in my cost, you can bet $ >> he's >> gonna raise his too... regardless of whether or not his cost has >> increased........... > > At best that's collusion, at worst it's outright price fixing and or > gouging. > now THAT answer IS bullshit... LOL >> PS. I'm not gonna say that if one station can lower his price and beat >> the >> other guy out of some sales he's not gonna do it... but that's rarely the >> case. especially in the non franchised stations..... > > Yeah, there's a name for it, it's called "honor among thieves." > > and that one too LOL oh well I tried, but you obviously have your mind made up.... soooo... it's all good also I'm certain that if I showed you an example of the very same business tactics in other areas, you'd either ignore it, or tell me how gullible I am or something along those lines TTYL Bill From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 06:45:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Nov 3 06:50:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dkcqki$49t$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Heidi" wrote in message > > At best that's collusion, at worst it's outright price fixing and or > > gouging. > > > > now THAT answer IS bullshit... LOL Prove it? > > and that one too > > LOL > oh well I tried, but you obviously have your mind made up.... soooo... it's > all good > > also I'm certain that if I showed you an example of the very same business > tactics in other areas, you'd either ignore it, or tell me how gullible I am > or something along those lines Are you serious? What they're doing goes against every principle in a competitive business market, stores and vendors compete against each other with prices and sales to get the most customers - the ones with the best sales and the cheapest prices get the most customers. What they *don't* do is all decide "let's not have special sales or pricing, we'll all charge the same so none of us have an advantage and we all get equal money". Have you taken a look at how Walmart does business? From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Thu Nov 3 12:15:07 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Nov 3 07:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > > Yes, he has been gone for a while. > The thing is there's always elements of procedure, dept heads, intel and > many other things that carry from one administration to the next no matter > who's administration it is.... just as there are things from this > administration that will carry over to the next one... that's just a fact > and while that fact remains solid and true, I wonder if the critics of that > administration will have such a short term memory that they too will forget > the problems that will be in part brought on by Bush's administrations > actions in favor of directing their criticisms at the new administration? Yeah, that really seems to be the case here. The last administration left a detailed plan on how to deal with AQ and bin Laden, warned them over and over that it was very important, but then we saw how that turned out. They blew it off completely. They cleaned house and put their political hacks in place (yeah, talking about you Brownie). I guess there will be a legacy from this current administration that won't soon be forgotten, that of turning the budget surplus from the Clinton years into the largest deficits in history. In fact, your grandchildren will probably still be touched by that. From 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com Thu Nov 3 12:35:45 2005 From: 8hmte5s02 at sneakemail.com (Charles) Date: Thu Nov 3 07:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: It wasn't me! It was Sylvesterthekat ! > Charles <8hmte5s02@sneakemail.com> wrote in > news:Xns9700824999693TheShrubIsAnAss@216.154.195.61: > >>> 5 acres? You gonna do some plowing? Grow a few taters? >> >> 40 acres (and a mule, eh?). Gonna grow sheep and children... > > FORTY? Good grief! Land must be cheaper up there! You'll need the mule > just to patrol your borders ;o) That may be, but it's not that cheap - we can only afford it like the others => by trading equity. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 07:55:37 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > actually not to throw salt in open wounds or anything, but the use > of the term "lies" that led us to war in Iraq is getting rather > old... Got one word for ya, Bill: yellowcake From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:06:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > > Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() That's american english (refers to an athletic shirt normally) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:16:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dkbu2j$l4j$2 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Consider that most of the fuel transport is via one pipelone and > > local terminal. When the local termain says frog ... > > But up here in Alberta, the gas is shipped out. The pipeline _starts_ > here. FWIU, gas is sold to companies in the States at a LOWER price > than what it's sold up here. You refine it up there? I thought you only sent us crude oil? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:19:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:20:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: Have you taken a look at how Walmart > does business? And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD that forced them to RAISE their gas prices because they were killing the local stations by undercutting their prices so much. Local dealers were claiming they were selling below cost (illegal in this state), although it wasn't proven to by true IIRC. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:25:15 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: DougW wrote: > Forget politics, there is a worldwide candy conspiracy > going on right under your red rubber noses. > > One hour and I'm tapped out. > > Never seen such a bumper crop of candy seeking > munchkins since the great candy famine of '73. Want my 3 extra bags? Last 2 years I ran out, this year (even though I was sick as a dog from Sund-Wed) I went out and bought four bags and only went through one! Speaking of being sick, I HATE this time of year! I seem to get sick almost every year around halloween, I'm sure it has something to do with the wild fluctuations in outside temperature. Played golf Friday, hot/cold hot/cold, wind jacket on/off all day, same thing Saturday while working outside in my yard. By Monday morning I was down for the count, lost 5 lbs in 2 days, no solid food until yesterday. And of course this work week was one of the busiest ones I've had all year! Sheesh, it took me literally 10-15 minutes to type email responses from home I was so brain dead.....could not type to save my life...... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:31:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "kram" > | || > | ||| Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" > | ||| > | ||| > | || > | || I think we already did that one here. But you're not around much > | || so we'll forgive you ;o) > | > | Thanks for the magnanimity. I will try to keep up from now on ;) > > Good luck. Really....I was only gone 3 friggin days and had over 300 messages facing me this morning.....of course the "smoking ban in England" thread was the first to go...... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:33:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:35:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > Looks like most people have managed to hit the middle - the ones on > > land, are these > > all strictly jumping deaths? > > They're all supposed to be suicides. Why are there so many more on > the south side than the north? Isn't Oakland on the south side? If so, that's the answer, I'd guess. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:35:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > If the federal government can deficit spend and get into huge amounts > of debt, why can't the state and local governments do that? It's against our state law (MD). Have to have a balanced budget every year. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:36:08 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:40:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > "Pete Stephenson" wrote in message > news:pete+usenet-995B24.17041802112005@news.cesmail.net... > > In article , > > "Frog Prince" wrote: > > > >> Most (likely all) state constitutions require a balance budget.. > > > > And why do the feds (presumably) not have a similar restriction? > > > > Unfortunately, this was overlooked in the Constitution, but it > wouldn't be terribly difficult to address, i.e., require a 2/3 > majority for any appropriations bill. A simple majority for spending > is totally ineffective at controlling spending. "Line item veto" From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:39:38 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:40:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "Mike Easter" wrote in message > > > > So/And, the two new moons also don't orbit Pluto -- they orbit the > > Pluto-Charon barycenter or 'complex' point in space. > > > > Which point itself is orbiting the Sun in a very peculiar way. > > > > Pardon? 8>)( All of the planets in our solar system have nearly circular orbits exept Pluto, which has a highly elliptical orbit. Objects with elliptical orbits are much more likely to be such things as comets and asteroids, ergo the argument that Pluto is not a planet, but rather a Kiuper Belt object. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:41:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:45:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Over There is Over... References: Message-ID: dwåcôn wrote: > ABC (http://tinyurl.com/77puc) reports that Chris Gerolmo and Steven > Bochco's Iraq war series "Over There" will not be renewed for a second > season. > I was royally pissed when I read that yesterday! > > It is sad that an intelligent show that addressed an unpopular war in > an unbiased manner didn't catch on with the American viewing public. > Or, maybe that was the issue? I think they didn't advertise it enough. I frequently forgot to watch it because it was new and I wasn't used to tuning into FX at 10:00 on Wednesdays (wasn't on long enough to form a habit in my head like CSI). Hell, half the time I couldn't remember what channel it was on! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:47:06 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:50:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Over There is Over... References: Message-ID: "dwåcôn" wrote in message news:dkc045$md4$1@news.spamcop.net... > ABC (http://tinyurl.com/77puc) reports that Chris Gerolmo and Steven > Bochco's Iraq war series "Over There" will not be renewed for a second > season. If only we were so lucky in real life, eh? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:49:44 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 08:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd2ou$8ek$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD that forced > them to RAISE their gas prices because they were killing the local stations > by undercutting their prices so much. Local dealers were claiming they were > selling below cost (illegal in this state), although it wasn't proven to by > true IIRC. > I'd like to know exactly how they managed to do that - or who they cut a deal with that's better than what local stations can get. Maybe the local stations are the "middle man" that Wally World cut out? From i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com Thu Nov 3 13:57:17 2005 From: i83vgwcn02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Nov 3 09:00:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: On 2005-11-03, David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > >> > They're all supposed to be suicides. Why are there so many more on >> > the south side than the north? >> >> Isn't Oakland on the south side? If so, that's the answer, I'd guess. > > It appears I had the orientation wrong, and the bridge span is > south/north. So it is either the east or west side which has the vast > majority of jumpers. I'm leaving for San Francisco Saturday, so maybe > I'll have time to go check it out for a first hand appraisal. The Golden Gate Bridge connects San Francisco and Marin County. San Francisco is on the south side. The Bay Bridge connects San Francisco and Oakland. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 14:00:31 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 09:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd20c$83o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: > >> >> Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() > > That's american english (refers to an athletic shirt normally) #$$%%$^%$^$&^%$ NO IT ISN'T!! It actually originated with a particular type of knit - which originated in Jersey (the *original* Jersey that is - not NEW Jersey). Mutter, mutter, darned yanks...... claiming what's ours is theirs..... mutter, mutter............ [}8|>()-< From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 14:15:26 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dkd57l$a2n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd20c$83o$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> Porpoise wrote: >> >>> >>> Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() >> >> That's american english (refers to an athletic shirt normally) > > #$$%%$^%$^$&^%$ NO IT ISN'T!! It actually originated with a particular > type of knit - which originated in Jersey (the *original* Jersey that is - > not NEW Jersey). > > Mutter, mutter, darned yanks...... claiming what's ours is theirs..... > mutter, mutter............ > > > [}8|>()-< > Just a bit of historical info for anyone interested: http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/hist-003.shtml "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 14:44:04 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 09:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkd2is$8cn$1@news.spamcop.net: > You refine it up there? I thought you only sent us crude oil? Refineries are here, Shell Oil, Exon, Petro Canada, etc. All kinds get shipped south and what stays here costs more. :( From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 14:46:27 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 09:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkd33r$8jl$1@news.spamcop.net: > could not type to > save my life...... And that's different from other times of the year how? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:11:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:15:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd2ou$8ek$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD > > that forced them to RAISE their gas prices because they were > > killing the local stations by undercutting their prices so much. > > Local dealers were claiming they were selling below cost (illegal > > in this state), although it wasn't proven to by true IIRC. > > > I'd like to know exactly how they managed to do that - or who they > cut a deal with that's better than what local stations can get. > Maybe the local stations are the "middle man" that Wally World cut > out? I don't understand your question. Malwart can buy their gas in huge quantities and get discounts just like they do for all the other goods they sell. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:11:25 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkd2is$8cn$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > You refine it up there? I thought you only sent us crude oil? > > Refineries are here, Shell Oil, Exon, Petro Canada, etc. > All kinds get shipped south and what stays here costs more. :( Near you? Ick..... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 15:14:40 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:15:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkd9au$c7t$1@news.spamcop.net: > Near you? Ick..... I'd say that within 50 miles, about half a dozen at least. Nearest one I "think" is about 25 miles from here. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:15:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:15:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd20c$83o$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Porpoise wrote: > > > >> > >> Well, in that case, I normally wear a Jersey - so there [}8>() > > > > That's american english (refers to an athletic shirt normally) > > #$$%%$^%$^$&^%$ NO IT ISN'T!! It actually originated with a > particular type of knit - which originated in Jersey (the *original* > Jersey that is - not NEW Jersey). > > Mutter, mutter, darned yanks...... claiming what's ours is theirs..... > mutter, mutter............ > > Sheesh Louise, don't get your panties in a wad! I meant that the word is one that Americans would understand having the proper connotation, unlike that ridiculous "jumper" definition for a sweater -- a jumper is a type of a dress that little girls wear. So there :-P > [}8|>()-< From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:15:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Porpoise wrote: > > "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen > sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." So what's a jumping jersey? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:17:11 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkd33r$8jl$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > could not type to > > save my life...... > > And that's different from other times of the year how? > Hardee har.....I almost wore out my backspace key is what I meant...and if you want to compare typos in *this* place, you oughta shut ya trap! :-P From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 09:53:58 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dkcpo1$3pk$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "D.F. Manno" wrote in message | news:dfm2a3l0t2-29A317.22254202112005@news.cesmail.net... | > In article , "Bcs1" | > wrote: | > | >> I don't bring Clinton up every time someone says bush lied, in fact I | >> personally have mostly brought him up only when it's relevant to my | >> reply. | >> and of course we all know there was never any corruption in the Clinton | >> administration LOL | > | > Clinton's been out of office for four years, nine months, 13 days, 10 | > hours and | > 25 minutes (as I write this). What corruption there was is over. It's a | > dead | > issue to everyone except those seeking to whitewash the Shrub's | > performance in | > office. | | Yes, he has been gone for a while. | The thing is there's always elements of procedure, dept heads, intel and | many other things that carry from one administration to the next no matter | who's administration it is.... just as there are things from this | administration that will carry over to the next one... that's just a fact | and while that fact remains solid and true, I wonder if the critics of that | administration will have such a short term memory that they too will forget | the problems that will be in part brought on by Bush's administrations | actions in favor of directing their criticisms at the new administration? I take small solace in the fact (hope?) that the next adminstration can't be any worse for the United States and WeThePeople From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 09:59:00 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Give or Take a Gazillion References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd3fu$8rj$1@news.spamcop.net... | > | ||| Finally, he looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?" | > | || I think we already did that one here. But you're not around much | > | || so we'll forgive you ;o) | > | | > | Thanks for the magnanimity. I will try to keep up from now on ;) | > | > Good luck. | | Really....I was only gone 3 friggin days and had over 300 messages facing me | this morning.....of course the "smoking ban in England" thread was the first | to go...... Now you have some idea what it's like to live in a large extended family where everyone suffers from ADHD From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:00:40 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | > could not type to | > save my life...... | | And that's different from other times of the year how? | There *is* a public acknowledgement. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:03:30 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:24 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | | > You refine it up there? I thought you only sent us crude oil? | | Refineries are here, Shell Oil, Exxon, Petro Canada, etc. | All kinds get shipped south and what stays here costs more. :( And no seems to understand the concept of predatory pricing. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:08:33 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" | > | > LOL | > oh well I tried, but you obviously have your mind made up.... soooo... | it's all good | > | > also I'm certain that if I showed you an example of the very same business | > tactics in other areas, you'd either ignore it, or tell me how gullible I | am or something along those lines | | Are you serious? What they're doing goes against every principle in a | competitive business market, stores and vendors compete against each other | with prices and sales to get the most customers - the ones with the best | sales and the cheapest prices get the most customers. | | What they *don't* do is all decide "let's not have special sales or pricing, | we'll all charge the same so none of us have an advantage and we all get | equal money". Have you taken a look at how Wal-Mart does business? When the means of production, transport distribution are in the hands of few and that few are all members of the same club (can we spell petroleum club and yes that is a real club and they know how to party mostly on your nickel) From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:10:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:30 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" | > And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD that forced | > them to RAISE their gas prices because they were killing the local stations | > by undercutting their prices so much. Local dealers were claiming they were | > selling below cost (illegal in this state), although it wasn't proven to by | > true IIRC. | > | I'd like to know exactly how they managed to do that - or who they cut a deal with | that's better than what local stations can get. Maybe the local stations are the | "middle man" that Wally World cut out? Buy direct from the source at quantity and them pay for transport. I know of folk that did that in the '70s shortage until the DoE cut off the deals. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:11:57 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in message news:dkcq5e$41q$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "JohnL" wrote in message | news:Xns9702C47697684innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... | > "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkbr3t$jh1$1@news.spamcop.net: | > | >> that is unusual, mostly the fuel's more expensive nearer the highway | >> than | >> in the town...unless the station in town is one that doesn't get the | >> price break that a guy selling 100K gallons a month does. | >> but the rest of your reply is right on the money price | >> watching/matching is | >> very heavy in that type business. | > | > Well, a few years ago, when the price was lower, like 1/3 less then now, | > almost anywhere I went in Alberta the price for gas was exactly the same! | > Honestly, big city, small town, out in the boonies or on the highway, no | > difference in pricing. It's only been in the past few years that pricing | > has seemed a little "competitive". | > When it was all the same all over, no one seemed bothered by it, besides | > me. :) | | yeah LOL | I remember Petersburg's gas was always about 3 to 4 cents a gallon higher | than Washington's or Jasper's for that matter, but when asking why?, it was | always vaguely answered about location and transportation ect, but 10 miles | down the road at the Pike junction it was about 7 cent or so higher, and | they said they didn't get the "break" the guys in town did... then go 5 more | miles to Winslow, and it was almost the same price as Petersburg.... LOL | | morning John It's called ZONE pricing and zone has everything to do what want the market will bear than what it cost to deliver. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:17:42 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:20:36 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd9in$cbd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: > > > > "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen > > sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." > > So what's a jumping jersey? A cow who's very happy..... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 15:20:48 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkd9lo$chf$1@news.spamcop.net: > Hardee har.....I almost wore out my backspace key is what I > meant...and if you want to compare typos in *this* place, you oughta > shut ya trap! :-P Yeah, but _your_ news reader has a spell checker, so no excuse for you. ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:32:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkd9lo$chf$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Hardee har.....I almost wore out my backspace key is what I > > meant...and if you want to compare typos in *this* place, you oughta > > shut ya trap! :-P > > Yeah, but _your_ news reader has a spell checker, so no excuse for > you. ;-) No it doesn't.....I've even tried the OE newsreader add-on spell chucker but it won't "stick". Or my OE install is fubar *shrugs*. In any case, I ain't got a functional one. Next 'scuse? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:34:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkd9au$c7t$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Near you? Ick..... > > I'd say that within 50 miles, about half a dozen at least. > Nearest one I "think" is about 25 miles from here. that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:34:44 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:35:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd9in$cbd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Porpoise wrote: > > > > > > "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen > > > sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." > > > > So what's a jumping jersey? > > A cow who's very happy..... Or walking on hot coals... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 15:50:16 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkdaja$d5j$1@news.spamcop.net: > No it doesn't.....I've even tried the OE newsreader add-on spell > chucker but it won't "stick". Or my OE install is fubar *shrugs*. In > any case, I ain't got a functional one. Next 'scuse? Nope, no other excuse, other than fat fingers and clicking send without checking... Kinda like what YOU do. LOL From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Nov 3 07:50:54 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > It appears I had the orientation wrong, and the bridge span is > south/north. So it is either the east or west side which has the vast > majority of jumpers. I'm leaving for San Francisco Saturday, so maybe > I'll have time to go check it out for a first hand appraisal. I need to get some pictures of it too, to send to some SF-native friends I know who are far from home. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 15:50:55 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:55:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? From pete+usenet at heypete.com Thu Nov 3 07:51:51 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:55:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > It appears I had the orientation wrong, and the bridge span is > south/north. So it is either the east or west side which has the vast > majority of jumpers. I'm leaving for San Francisco Saturday, so maybe > I'll have time to go check it out for a first hand appraisal. I need to get some pictures of it too, to send to some SF-native friends I know who are far from home. (Supercede article, if it works): Thus, when you're out here, it'd be fun to swing by the bridge and get some photos. You've got my number, feel free to give me a call when you get in town. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:52:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 10:55:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97035A088E362innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! > > Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? THE SMELL?????? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 10:55:20 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 11:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd9af$c7q$1@news.spamcop.net... > >> I don't understand your question. Malwart can buy their gas in huge > quantities and get discounts just like they do for all the other goods they > sell. > I was just wondering if it was not JUST volume - I would thinks other distributors would be able to purchase similar quantities and offer similar discounts. From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 11:30:41 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 11:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! | | Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? Never been down wind a papermill have you? From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 08:37:12 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Thu Nov 3 11:40:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: In news:ozchzhq02-8B004E.08445603112005@frylock.local, David Dean opined: || In article , || "indigo" wrote: || |||| They're all supposed to be suicides. Why are there so many more |||| on the south side than the north? ||| ||| Isn't Oakland on the south side? If so, that's the answer, I'd ||| guess. || || It appears I had the orientation wrong, and the bridge span is || south/north. So it is either the east or west side which has the vast || majority of jumpers. I'm leaving for San Francisco Saturday, so maybe || I'll have time to go check it out for a first hand appraisal. The East side (IIRC) has the pedestrian walkway, making it 'easier' to get to the edge. -- kk == Book: A non-volatile information storage medium. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 12:16:54 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! > > Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? You ever smelled one of those suckers? I think not or you wouldn't be asking...... From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 12:19:52 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:20:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd9af$c7q$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > >> I don't understand your question. Malwart can buy their gas in huge > > quantities and get discounts just like they do for all the other > > goods they sell. > > > I was just wondering if it was not JUST volume - I would thinks other > distributors would be able to purchase similar quantities and offer > similar discounts. The COSTCO near my house must have around 30 pumps at it's station -- it is more than double the size of any local gas station, so it alone would be eligible for a discount by volume, is my guess, let alone by belonging to a national chain, unlike individually owned local Exxon franchises. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 12:21:29 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > JohnL wrote: > > "indigo" wrote in > > news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill > > > nearby! > > > > Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? > > You ever smelled one of those suckers? I think not or you wouldn't be > asking...... Hehe....altogether now (c'mon and sing along Heidi and FP) "John, you DOOFUS!" ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 17:48:34 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 12:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkdgup$h5q$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > indigo wrote: >> You ever smelled one of those suckers? I think not or you wouldn't be >> asking...... > > Hehe....altogether now (c'mon and sing along Heidi and FP) "John, you > DOOFUS!" ;-) > > Yeah right. Doofus is as Doofus does. ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 18:54:35 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:00:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd9hk$c8u$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Sheesh Louise, don't get your panties in a wad! I meant that the word is > one > that Americans would understand having the proper connotation, unlike that > ridiculous "jumper" definition for a sweater -- a jumper is a type of a > dress that little girls wear. So there :-P >> [}8|>()-< Wahhh....... I thought a jumper was a type of horse (as opposed to a dressage or flat-racer)....... So there 3.. From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 18:55:33 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:00:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd9in$cbd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Porpoise wrote: >> >> "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen >> sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." > > So what's a jumping jersey? > Aha..... A jersey worn by a kangar...... who? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 18:55:58 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:00:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkd9pe$chv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd9in$cbd$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> Porpoise wrote: >> > >> > "The terms 'jersey' and 'gansey' are still applied to a woolen >> > sweater, obviously the latter is a corruption of Guernsey." >> >> So what's a jumping jersey? > > A cow who's very happy..... > That 2....... 8>)) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 14:01:01 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dkdmf8$k43$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Wahhh....... I thought a jumper was a type of horse (as opposed to a > dressage or flat-racer)....... So there 3.. You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 14:01:53 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Thu Nov 3 14:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97036DFB0CF2Finnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dkdgup$h5q$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Yeah right. > Doofus is as Doofus does. ;-) Not sure if there are any paper mills still in Maine, if there are, you need to go to one and be justifiably horrified...... From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 14:35:12 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: tip of the day References: Message-ID: <436A6670.C4D56DE5@spamcop.net> Sylvesterthekat wrote: > > blow it out before you drink it > > http://www.kookybycaron.com/flamingshots.gif I think it's more of a "get it _in_ your mouth" kind of thing. If he hadn't missed his mouth and got it on his cheeks, it wouldn't have been a problem. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 14:50:48 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:00:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Porpoise wrote: > > "Mike Easter" wrote in message > news:dkbgta$ebj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Borgholio wrote: > >> http://www.boulder.swri.edu/plutonews/ > > > > Here's an article about Pluto's other moons [sorta] written in 2003 May. > > http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/plutos_moons_030506.html Pluto's > > Other Moons: Why They Might Exist and Who's Looking > > > > Charon doesn't really orbit around Pluto. Both Charon and Pluto orbit > > around a point 'outside of' ie not 'in' or of Pluto.- ie the barycenter > > of the two bodies is what both Pluto and Charon orbit around. > > > > So/And, the two new moons also don't orbit Pluto -- they orbit the > > Pluto-Charon barycenter or 'complex' point in space. > > > > Which point itself is orbiting the Sun in a very peculiar way. > > > > Pardon? 8>)( If a planet has moons, the center of the planet does not make an eliptical orbit around the Sun. Rather, the center of gravity of the planet/moon system (called the barycenter), is what makes the orbit around the Sun, and the planet and moon(s) orbit the barycenter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter#Animations Most planet/moon systems have a barycenter well within the planet. The Pluto/Charon barycenter, however, is believed to be outside of Pluto, making it more a double-planet than a planet/moon. (Though many people are doubting Pluto's planetary status.) That, and the Pluto/Charon barycenter orbit around the Sun is highly eliptical, whereas the other (known) planets have nearly circular orbits. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 15:08:04 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > That, and the Pluto/Charon barycenter orbit around the Sun is highly > eliptical, whereas the other (known) planets have nearly circular > orbits. > Yeah, what I sed.......in english ;-) From nospam at dev.null Thu Nov 3 22:26:26 2005 From: nospam at dev.null (No Spam) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: duty calls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Technomage Hawke wrote: > No Spam wrote: > > >>Hi All >> >>http://aa419.org/flashmobs/current-mob.php >> >>Do your part in shutting a few 419 related fake banksites. >> >>Cheers >> >>E > > why not just vampire all these sites. they are, after all, illegal > enterprises located offshore of the US (therefor, no US laws apply). > > just a question. > Some do :? From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 15:26:37 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:30:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > > > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill | > > > nearby! | > > | > > Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? | > | > You ever smelled one of those suckers? I think not or you wouldn't be | > asking...... | | Hehe....altogether now (c'mon and sing along Heidi and FP) "John, you | DOOFUS!" ;-) HE'S never experianced the smell of a paper plant and HE'S the doofus? From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Nov 3 12:28:29 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:30:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter#Animations That's a great illustration of the barycenter situation. The wiki also has a nice article about Pluto and its [rather its barycenter's] orbit inside and outside of Neptune and how the Pluto family and Neptune 'dance' with each other's orbits by the Pluto family slowing down and speeding up to keep the relationship always having the orbits pass when they are farthest apart. Well, the wiki doesn't call it a dance, but I do. Pluto is really neat, but I don't think it should be called a planet. I think that when they take away Pluto's planet status, that they should 'elevate' Pluto's 'namesake' and historical 'planetoid' significance by using/continuing the naming scheme of 'plutino' for the Kuiper belt trans-Neptunion objects of Pluto and its 'kinfolk' which would now include quite a large family of bodies. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 15:31:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > HE'S never experianced the smell of a paper plant and HE'S the doofus? Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and never have smelled a frigging paper mill? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 12:36:30 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:40:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > Kenneth Brody wrote: > > >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycenter#Animations > > > That's a great illustration of the barycenter situation. > > The wiki also has a nice article about Pluto and its [rather its > barycenter's] orbit inside and outside of Neptune and how the Pluto > family and Neptune 'dance' with each other's orbits by the Pluto family > slowing down and speeding up to keep the relationship always having the > orbits pass when they are farthest apart. Well, the wiki doesn't call > it a dance, but I do. > > Pluto is really neat, but I don't think it should be called a planet. I > think that when they take away Pluto's planet status, that they should > 'elevate' Pluto's 'namesake' and historical 'planetoid' significance by > using/continuing the naming scheme of 'plutino' for the Kuiper belt > trans-Neptunion objects of Pluto and its 'kinfolk' which would now > include quite a large family of bodies. > I agree that Pluto should not be a planet. It's just too unlike the other REAL planets, and too similar to the other Kuiper Belt objects. If they find a KB object that's larger than Pluto, they'll run into problems...as it'll be definitely a KB object, but it'll be a planet too. I'm happy with 8 planets, myself. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Thu Nov 3 20:37:18 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Thu Nov 3 15:40:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: duty calls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No Spam wrote: > Technomage Hawke wrote: >> No Spam wrote: >> >> why not just vampire all these sites. they are, after all, illegal >> enterprises located offshore of the US (therefor, no US laws apply). >> >> just a question. >> > Some do :? I'm hoping you all are talking about vampires that suck blood and wear scary capes and talk like Bela Lugosi (I vant to drink vour blood [thunder crash] [Manic laugh]). Because otherwise, it would be a bit rude and all to be babbling on and on about off topic stuff here. Actually, my Bela impression came off a bit more like the Sesame Street Count (I love to count, von, twvo, thfree [Manic laugh] [thunder crash]). From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 16:01:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > HE'S never experianced the smell of a paper plant and HE'S the doofus? | | Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the second | time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and never have | smelled a frigging paper mill? Careful planning or blind luck, does it matter? From kenbrody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 15:55:39 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <436A794B.450052DC@spamcop.net> Borgholio wrote: [...] > I agree that Pluto should not be a planet. It's just too unlike the other > REAL planets, and too similar to the other Kuiper Belt objects. If they > find a KB object that's larger than Pluto, they'll run into problems...as > it'll be definitely a KB object, but it'll be a planet too. I'm happy with > 8 planets, myself. Sure, but what'll that do to the periodic table of elements? ;-) -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 13:10:44 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: <436A794B.450052DC@spamcop.net> References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> <436A794B.450052DC@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > [...] > >>I agree that Pluto should not be a planet. It's just too unlike the other >>REAL planets, and too similar to the other Kuiper Belt objects. If they >>find a KB object that's larger than Pluto, they'll run into problems...as >>it'll be definitely a KB object, but it'll be a planet too. I'm happy with >>8 planets, myself. > > > Sure, but what'll that do to the periodic table of elements? ;-) > Oh they're adding new elements all the time. It won't matter. :) From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Nov 3 13:18:18 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Pluto is really neat, but I don't think it should be called a >> planet. > If they find a KB object that's larger than Pluto, they'll run into > problems...as it'll be definitely a KB object, but it'll be a planet > too. I'm happy with 8 planets, myself. Mike Brown's 2003 UB313 for one is definitely larger than Pluto. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 13:22:31 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>Mike Easter wrote: > > >>>Pluto is really neat, but I don't think it should be called a >>>planet. > > >>If they find a KB object that's larger than Pluto, they'll run into >>problems...as it'll be definitely a KB object, but it'll be a planet >>too. I'm happy with 8 planets, myself. > > > Mike Brown's 2003 UB313 for one is definitely larger than Pluto. > I thought it was not yet determined but likely to be no bigger... From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Nov 3 13:42:54 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Mike Brown's 2003 UB313 for one is definitely larger than Pluto. > > I thought it was not yet determined but likely to be no bigger... Size matters Using a photo taken on January 8, the Palomar team compared it with previous 2003 UB313 photos to triangulate the object's distance, brightness and orbit. Using mathematical formulas, they found a range of sizes for 2003 UB313, with an estimated average showing the approximate diameter of the new body to be about 2,600 kilometers. But even at the smallest estimate scientists are certain 2003 UB313 is larger than Pluto's 2,250 kilometer diameter. To determine size, Scientists deduce the relative size of a solar system object by its brightness, just as one can infer the size of a faraway light bulb if one knows its wattage. The reflectance of 2003 UB313 is not yet known for sure. Scientists can not yet tell how much light from the sun is reflected away from its surface, but the amount of light the planet does reflect puts a lower limit on its size. "Even if it reflected 100 percent of the light reaching it, it would still be as big as Pluto," Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary astronomy at the California Institute of Technology said in a NASA press release. "I'd say it's probably one and a half times the size of Pluto, but we're not sure yet of the final size." "We are 100 percent confident that this is the first object bigger than Pluto ever found in the outer solar system," Brown added. Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 13:47:45 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 16:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>Mike Easter wrote: >> >>>Mike Brown's 2003 UB313 for one is definitely larger than Pluto. >> >>I thought it was not yet determined but likely to be no bigger... > > > > Size matters > > Using a photo taken on January 8, the Palomar team compared it with > previous 2003 UB313 photos to triangulate the object's distance, > brightness and orbit. > > Using mathematical formulas, they found a range of sizes for 2003 UB313, > with an estimated average showing the approximate diameter of the new > body to be about 2,600 kilometers. But even at the smallest estimate > scientists are certain 2003 UB313 is larger than Pluto's 2,250 kilometer > diameter. > > To determine size, Scientists deduce the relative size of a solar system > object by its brightness, just as one can infer the size of a faraway > light bulb if one knows its wattage. The reflectance of 2003 UB313 is > not yet known for sure. Scientists can not yet tell how much light from > the sun is reflected away from its surface, but the amount of light the > planet does reflect puts a lower limit on its size. > > "Even if it reflected 100 percent of the light reaching it, it would > still be as big as Pluto," Michael E. Brown, a professor of planetary > astronomy at the California Institute of Technology said in a NASA press > release. "I'd say it's probably one and a half times the size of Pluto, > but we're not sure yet of the final size." > > "We are 100 percent confident that this is the first object bigger than > Pluto ever found in the outer solar system," Brown added. > > > > Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to > say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. > > Thx for the brain-food. I guess the "Pro-Pluto" group has some esplaining to do. :) From MikeE at ster.invalid Thu Nov 3 14:05:58 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Thu Nov 3 17:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to > say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. Oops; I meant 2003 EL61. Controversial in its discovery/discoverer status. EL61 is currently whimsically being called Santa and its little moon is Rudolph; but it doesn't have an official name yet. It is very bright, almost as bright as Pluto, and high-end home telescopes with CCD cameras can 'see' it. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 22:21:37 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 17:25:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkdmtp$khd$1@news.spamcop.net: > Not sure if there are any paper mills still in Maine, if there are, > you need to go to one and be justifiably horrified...... > > > Maine? That's a looong way from here. ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Thu Nov 3 22:23:04 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 17:25:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkds2l$o30$1@news.spamcop.net: > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the > second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and > never have smelled a frigging paper mill? Hey, there's a LOT of things I have never smelled, and never intend to. :P From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 3 22:43:12 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Thu Nov 3 17:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkdms5$kgv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dkdmf8$k43$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> Wahhh....... I thought a jumper was a type of horse (as opposed to a >> dressage or flat-racer)....... So there 3.. > > You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! Errr...... why? From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 15:04:15 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 18:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Nigerian scammer admits he's a scammer Message-ID: Amazing.... ---------------------------------- I'm impressed. You actually admit that you are a scammer. Acknowledging that you have a problem is the first step in finding a cure. I give you my sincerest best wishes in putting your criminal past behind you and finding a real job. All my love, Mr. Borg Holio. Abdulla Reza wrote: >> Dear Borgholio, >> Thanks for making mockry of my situation. >> Anyway, I do not blame you, cos of what scammers are doing. Take care and God bless. >> >> Borgholio 說： >> Dear REZA ABDULLA . >> >> I am replying in regard to the BUSINESS PROPOSAL that you have sent me a >> couple of days ago. >> >> First of all, I want to relay to you how saddened I am to hear of what has >> befallen your cancer, eating you alive. While I never heard of him before, >> as I do not generally keep up to date on the affairs of Safat, your letter >> left me with little doubt that his was a career filled with success and >> achievements. I'm sure eating alive's plight will find many sympathizers >> among the honest people of your great nation. >> >> As I have stated, I do not follow the events in your part of the world too >> closely, but from what I did hear of Safat, the events detailed in your >> letter do not surprise me in the least. It is outrageous that such a >> horrible injustice can take place at the dawn of the Twenty First century. >> >> But I would like to discuss your proposal. It could not have come at a >> better time. You see, just last week, I have received a confidential letter >> from Nigeria. It was from a man named Antonio C., who is the Son of Marcos >> Chow, the recently Retired General in the People's Army of that country. >> >> This man's letter explained how after his Father's exile there is a >> significant amount of money being sought by the Chow's enemies in Nigeria. >> It then went on to ask for my help in moving the money (a total of FOURTEEN >> MILLION - $14000000 U.S. Dollars) out of Nigeria and into my account, >> promising to pay me a percentage of the sum as compensation for my part of >> the operation. >> >> In his letter, Antonio C. requested complete secrecy, so while I have shared >> this information with you because you seem to be in a very similar >> situation, I am sure you will appreciate the need to not share this highly >> confidential information with any of your other contacts. >> >> I was quite ready to offer Antonio C. my assistance with the transfer his >> Father's money when I got your letter. You see, I have performed poorly at >> my job this year, and did not receive a yearly bonus from my employer. >> Therefore, I believe that if I were to transfer a large amount of money >> (even as much as TEN MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND - $10700000 DOLLARS, the >> amount your are proposing to move), the authorities would simply believe >> this to be my bonus and it would not raise eyebrows or trigger any red flags. >> >> In truth, initially receiving your letter within mere days after getting >> Antonio C.'s, I was a little skeptical as to the honesty of your claims. >> However, after thinking about it a lot yesterday, I have come to realise >> that this is an indicator that the situation in countries like Safat and >> Nigeria is much less stable what is portrayed by our government and media. >> This deception of the masses is outrageous and I for one will write letters >> to various people demanding it come to a stop. >> >> However, the current situation represents a bit of a dilemma for me. You >> see, while I would be happy to acommodate you both, I do not want to run the >> risk of detection by both the Nigerian Secret Police and their counterpart >> in Safat, as such risk would put all parties in excessive (and in my eyes - >> unacceptable) jeopardy. So it is after long hours of being torn between >> caution and compassion to both your causes, that I have decided that I dare >> risk accepting only one of the offers. >> >> Do not worry however, while Antonio C.'s offer is more lucrative to me >> financially, I firmly believe that in such situations, financial gain must >> take a back seat in favor of ethics and integrity... Therefore, my decision >> in this matter has to be made primarily based upon the seriousness of your >> situation, as well as that of Chow's Son. I would appreciate you getting >> back to me at your earliest convenience to let me know why you, and the >> estate of your esteemed cancer are more worthy of my aid than Marcos Chow. >> Also, in finding me, you have demonstrated that you are a man of many >> connections, in your own country as well as abroad. If through your >> associates in the information gathering sphere you come upon any information >> leading you to believe Antonio C. to be disingenuous or not worthy of my >> help, I am sure you will relay such information to me with all expedience, >> as it will greatly benefit your own cause. >> >> I eagerly await to hear back from you with the pertinent information, and >> would like to assure you that I approach our dealings with all the secrecy >> and gravity that the situation requires. >> >> Your Friend. >> >> reza_abdulla@universia.pt wrote: >> > >>>>Dear Friend, >>>> >>>>As you read this, I don't want you to feel sorry for >>>>me, because, I believe everyone will die someday. My >>>>name is MR. REZA ABDULLA , a merchant in Safat, in >>>>(Kuwait) I was married with two children. My wife and >>>>two children died in a car accident six years ago. I >>>>have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer. It has >>>>defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now >>>>I have only about a few months to live, according to >>>>medical experts. >>>>I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I >>>>never really cared for anyone (not even myself) but my >>>>business. Though I am very rich, I was never >>>>generous,I was always hostile to people and only >>>>focused on my business as that was the only thing I >>>>cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know >>>>that there is more to life than just wanting to have >>>>or make all the money in the world. >>>>I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to >>>>this world I would live my life a different way from >>>>how I have lived it. Now that God has called me, I >>>>have willed and given most of my property and assetsto >>>>my immediate and extended family members as well as a >>>>few close friends. I want God to be merciful to me and >>>>accept my soul.So I have decided to give alms to >>>>charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the >>>>last good deeds I do on earth So far, I have >>>>distributed money to some charity organizations in the >>>>U.A.E, Algeria and Malaysia. Now that my health has >>>>deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself >>>>anymore. I once asked members of my family to close >>>>one of my accounts and distribute the money which I >>>>have there to charity organization in Bulgaria and >>>>Pakistan, they refused and kept the money to >>>>themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as >>>>they seem not to be contended with what I have left >>>>for them. The last of my money which no one knows of >>>>is the huge cash deposit of Ten Million Seven Hundred >>>>Thousand American dollars (U.S.$10.700,000) that I >>>>have with a finance/Security Company abroad. I will >>>>want you to help me collect this deposit and >>>>dispatched it to charity organizations. I have set >>>>aside only 20 % for you and for your time and also 5% >>>>as miscellaneous expenses. Reply me at your earliest >>>>convenience for more directives to my private email >>>>address: mrreza_abdulla@yahoo.com.hk >>>> >>>> >>>>God be with you. >>>>Regards, >>>>MR. REZA ABDULLA >>>> >>>> > >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> ?????? email ??? >> ?? Yahoo! Messenger http://messenger.yahoo.com.hk From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 18:05:20 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 18:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" | | > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the | > second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and | > never have smelled a frigging paper mill? | | Hey, there's a LOT of things I have never smelled, and never intend to. :P Naw not going there From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 18:15:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Nov 3 18:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dke3s0$s7n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! > > Errr...... why? Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of S'kat....amazing... From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 15:41:09 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 18:45:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Nigerian scammer admits he's a scammer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Amazing.... > > > Leave that sp*m out of .social, yuck! > Oh it's more entertainment than sp*m, I think. :) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Nov 4 01:08:34 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkd3uq$946$1@news.spamcop.net: > > All of the planets in our solar system have nearly circular orbits > exept Pluto, which has a highly elliptical orbit. Objects with > elliptical orbits are much more likely to be such things as comets and > asteroids, ergo the argument that Pluto is not a planet, but rather a > Kiuper Belt object. > > > You know what I smell? I new robot mission. :-) From borgholio at storymind.com Thu Nov 3 17:12:11 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:15:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkd3uq$946$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > >>All of the planets in our solar system have nearly circular orbits >>exept Pluto, which has a highly elliptical orbit. Objects with >>elliptical orbits are much more likely to be such things as comets and >>asteroids, ergo the argument that Pluto is not a planet, but rather a >>Kiuper Belt object. >> >> >> > > > > You know what I smell? I new robot mission. :-) > > I new robot? Is that the sequel to I Robot? From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Nov 4 01:20:12 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "DougW" wrote in news:dk6fun$oem$1@news.spamcop.net: > Forget politics, there is a worldwide candy conspiracy > going on right under your red rubber noses. > > One hour and I'm tapped out. > > Never seen such a bumper crop of candy seeking > munchkins since the great candy famine of '73. > Funny, we had no kids come by my apartment. (Maybe because I was at work and my wife played "Invisible Girl" by closing the lights and sitting in the back room to watch a DVD movie. :-) Needless to say, I had 3 bags of candy waiting for ol' Red. (me.) :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Nov 4 01:23:54 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dk80ra$jeh$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message >| >| Got them good with sounds this year. Had my speakers at the front, >| middle and rear of the driveway, switched seperately. As the bigger >| kids came to the door, ot would start there, and if they "spooked", >| the soulds would follow them up the drive. >| >| I think next year a Warning sign might be appropriate. ;-) > > Think anyone will take a warning sign seriously? As for the air we > anchored an outlet air hose in the bottom of a decretative pond. > Thing looked like it was part of the land scape. Press a button the > pond lit up red and a blast of air bubbled up ominously. (if it's not > too cold -- wet 'em -- if cold then tone down the air) > > As for piping I used standard flexible shop air hose. Coils up for > storage and lets me change the lay out as the mood and available stuff > allows. > > If all else fails, he could rent a snowmachine and bury his front porch under 4 feet of snow. Watch those kids trudge through a miniblizzard. Make it like an early Christmas thing. JINGLE BELLS! :-) From redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com Fri Nov 4 01:35:08 2005 From: redford_stone at INVERSE_OF_COLDmail.com (Redstone) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkdgrp$h2f$1@news.spamcop.net: > > The COSTCO near my house must have around 30 pumps at it's station -- > it is more than double the size of any local gas station, so it alone > would be eligible for a discount by volume, is my guess, let alone by > belonging to a national chain, unlike individually owned local Exxon > franchises. > > I would also think that Costco did what Southwest Airlines did with their fuel by partially hedging. Not only would they get the discount for the large quantities but get a contract to lock the price in for a while. So even as gasoline prices on the wholesale goes up, the fuel sold to Costco won't. So they sell it cheaper. That is something that the smaller places can't do. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Nov 4 01:41:22 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Thu Nov 3 20:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote in news:Xns9703B0FEECEDtinlc@216.154.195.61: > If all else fails, he could rent a snowmachine and bury his front porch > under 4 feet of snow. Watch those kids trudge through a miniblizzard. > Make it like an early Christmas thing. JINGLE BELLS! :-) Hey, it was a "brown" Halloween... But the next day we got 6 inches of snow and it's still here. We get MORE than enough real snow, thank you very much! ;-) From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 21:01:01 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Miss Betsy) Date: Thu Nov 3 21:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9703BE243F643innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Redstone wrote in > news:Xns9703B0FEECEDtinlc@216.154.195.61: > > > If all else fails, he could rent a snowmachine and bury his front porch > > under 4 feet of snow. Watch those kids trudge through a miniblizzard. > > Make it like an early Christmas thing. JINGLE BELLS! :-) > > Hey, it was a "brown" Halloween... But the next day we got 6 inches of snow > and it's still here. > We get MORE than enough real snow, thank you very much! ;-) One year I raked all the leaves up on to our walk and porch. When the kids rang the doorbell, I opened the door and yelled, "Who is walking in my leaves!!!!' One child told me about it just the other day - 'I believed you that I shouldn't be walking in the leaves.' We've been doing things so long that mothers are bringing their children. Miss Betsy From devnull at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 21:07:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Thu Nov 3 21:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: 10 bags in 1 hour References: Message-ID: "Miss Betsy" | > | > > If all else fails, he could rent a snowmachine and bury his | front porch under 4 feet of snow. Watch those kids trudge through a | miniblizzard. Make it like an early Christmas thing. JINGLE BELLS! :-) | > | > Hey, it was a "brown" Halloween... But the next day we got 6 | inches of snow and it's still here. | > We get MORE than enough real snow, thank you very much! ;-) | | One year I raked all the leaves up on to our walk and porch. When | the kids rang the doorbell, I opened the door and yelled, "Who is | walking in my leaves!!!!' One child told me about it just the | other day - 'I believed you that I shouldn't be walking in the | leaves.' We've been doing things so long that mothers are bringing | their children. We've been doing this kind of stuff (Santa & Mrs etc) for so long we're on our second generation with many of the 'tweens' showing up to help set up. From nobody at spamcop.net Thu Nov 3 22:54:24 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Thu Nov 3 23:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Tres amuse Message-ID: I was looking for some info on the British show "Bodies", and look what I found instead... http://www.well.com/www/cynsa/newbutt.html#figs Check out the xrays.... From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:22:35 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:25:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tres amuse References: Message-ID: "Heidi" | I was looking for some info on the British show "Bodies", and look what I | found instead... | http://www.well.com/www/cynsa/newbutt.html#figs | Check out the xrays.... Is this a case of a 'horse of a different color'? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:43:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "indigo" > > | > HE'S never experianced the smell of a paper plant and HE'S the > | > doofus? > | > | Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or > | the second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as > | John and never have smelled a frigging paper mill? > > Careful planning or blind luck, does it matter? Guess you're right.....he's one lucky bum, that's for sher. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:44:16 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:45:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dkdmtp$khd$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Not sure if there are any paper mills still in Maine, if there are, > > you need to go to one and be justifiably horrified...... > > > > > > > Maine? That's a looong way from here. ;-) Blondes and geography, ya know? ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:44:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:45:16 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "JohnL" > | > | > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or > | > the second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as > | > John and never have smelled a frigging paper mill? > | > | Hey, there's a LOT of things I have never smelled, and never intend > | to. :P > > Naw not going there Me neither! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:48:33 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: Redstone wrote: > > > > > You know what I smell? I new robot mission. :-) Already in action -- New Horizons is going to be launched in Jan-Feb 2006. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:49:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Redstone wrote: > > > > > > > > > You know what I smell? I new robot mission. :-) > > Already in action -- New Horizons is going to be launched in Jan-Feb > 2006. Oops. I meant the New Horizons spacecraft is going to Pluto, it's not a robot lander though. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:49:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 08:50:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Heidi wrote: > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dke3s0$s7n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! > > > > Errr...... why? > > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of > S'kat....amazing... *Ahem* From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 09:09:37 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkfou6$qn4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Heidi wrote: > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > > news:dke3s0$s7n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > > You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! > > > > > > Errr...... why? > > > > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of > > S'kat....amazing... > > *Ahem* Pardon??? Frog in your throat? From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 09:10:51 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkfojh$qei$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Maine? That's a looong way from here. ;-) > > Blondes and geography, ya know? ;-) Shaddup, that's the only place I've ever seen (or smelled) paper mills........ From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Nov 4 14:18:17 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkfojh$qei$1@news.spamcop.net: > Blondes and geography, ya know? ;-) SPLORF! I'd say more but I live with one! ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 09:26:55 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkfq85$rb2$1@news.spamcop.net... | | "indigo" wrote in message news:dkfojh$qei$1@news.spamcop.net... | > | > > Maine? That's a looong way from here. ;-) | > | > Blondes and geography, ya know? ;-) | | Shaddup, that's the only place I've ever seen (or smelled) paper mills........ Never traveled the south ? From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 09:32:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkfou6$qn4$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Heidi wrote: > > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > > > news:dke3s0$s7n$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > > > > You know what dressage is? I'm stunned.....! > > > > > > > > Errr...... why? > > > > > > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of > > > S'kat....amazing... > > > > *Ahem* > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? You know what I meant. Fess up. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 09:33:58 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 09:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkfrd3$rvr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > > > > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of > > > > S'kat....amazing... > > > > > > *Ahem* > > > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? > > You know what I meant. Fess up. I have no idea what you meant.......care to elaborate? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 4 14:57:09 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Nov 4 10:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkfq5q$rap$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkfou6$qn4$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> Heidi wrote: >> > >> > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of >> > S'kat....amazing... >> >> *Ahem* > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? Trust someone top bring frogs into the thread.......... ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Nov 4 15:02:22 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Nov 4 10:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in news:dkfsun$sn6$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Trust someone top bring frogs into the thread.......... ;-) Hey, it's just across the Channel, isn't it? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Fri Nov 4 15:24:16 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Nov 4 10:30:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns970451C8D3F20innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Porpoise" wrote in news:dkfsun$sn6$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > >> Trust someone top bring frogs into the thread.......... ;-) > > Hey, it's just across the Channel, isn't it? Ah.. mais oui! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 11:08:06 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 11:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97039C465FEE4innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dkdmtp$khd$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Not sure if there are any paper mills still in Maine, if there are, > > you need to go to one and be justifiably horrified...... > > > > > > > Maine? That's a looong way from here. ;-) Don't you go campin'? Baxter State park is right there, you can smell the paper mills on the way. :-Þ From skiwi at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 08:24:06 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Fri Nov 4 11:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tres amuse In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Heidi" > > | I was looking for some info on the British show "Bodies", and look what I > | found instead... > | http://www.well.com/www/cynsa/newbutt.html#figs > | Check out the xrays.... > > Is this a case of a 'horse of a different color'? Maybe his sh*t does smell better than ours (?) - at least for now... From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 12:02:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 12:05:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkfrd3$rvr$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > > > > > > > Because no one else here does, with the possible exception of > > > > > S'kat....amazing... > > > > > > > > *Ahem* > > > > > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? > > > > You know what I meant. Fess up. > > I have no idea what you meant.......care to elaborate? That I know what dressage means too? Not that I'm bragging about it! From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 10:24:58 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (kram) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: In news:Xns9704620001792spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61, Sylvesterthekat opined: || http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sleep/tmt/ || || I got 100% on recognition and 70% on temporal || || || http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/ 100% recognition / 91% temporal http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/sex/ don't have time to do that one now ...saved for later ;) -- kk == Book: A non-volatile information storage medium. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Nov 4 18:28:38 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkg140$uut$1@news.spamcop.net: > Don't you go campin'? Baxter State park is right there, you can smell > the paper mills on the way. :-è Yes I go camping.... in ALBERTA. ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 13:43:19 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns970474C16F2D3innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Yes I go camping.... in ALBERTA. ;-) What fun is that? You LIVE there! Harrumph.... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 13:44:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tres amuse References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970468C44E027spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > I'm tempted to say 'what a couple of assholes'! LOL Did you see the xray of the guy who stuck a live artillery shell up there? My my..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 13:45:29 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:50:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkg47h$18e$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > I have no idea what you meant.......care to elaborate? > > That I know what dressage means too? Not that I'm bragging about it! Do you? I had no idea. I don't believe you. You just googled...... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 13:47:09 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:50:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9704680BE80E9spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > > do I even dare wonder what's going on here? what do I know? LOL The word 'dressage' was uttered from the cetacean across the pond...I expressed amazement that anyone besides me (or you) knew what that was.... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Fri Nov 4 18:51:21 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Fri Nov 4 13:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkga71$527$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns970474C16F2D3innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> Yes I go camping.... in ALBERTA. ;-) > > What fun is that? You LIVE there! Harrumph.... > > > Oh, it's lotsa fun! Specially this one area, many bears around. I haven't seen one yet, but my S.O.'s father took a picture of a Black Bear from about 20 feet away (and then took off like a bat out of hell on his Quad ) ...And there's also Grizzlies around here. From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Fri Nov 4 14:56:49 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Fri Nov 4 16:00:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Brazil nuts Message-ID: Nothing like watching protesters in Argentina destroy the very place where they live protesting someone who will be gone in a day or two. Astonishing show of mob mentality. The average IQ of the world is apparently pushing double digits now. -- DougW From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Nov 4 20:58:35 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Nov 4 16:00:29 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote in > news:dfm2a3l0t2-BC8DA2.13494202112005@news.cesmail.net: > >> If someone is capable of that kind of reasoning, s/he wouldn't be >> attempting suicide in the first place. > > Suicides do quite a bit of reasoning. That's how they manage to do the act > in the first place (it's usually not a spur of the moment thing). Their > reasoning may not make sense to you or I, but it does to them. Thus I would > expect them to do it where they'd be most likely to succeed which has to be > from the highest point and into the fastest current of water furthest from > the shore. If the impact didn't get you, you'd die of cold, drowning or > sharks. In fact, having a plan is when you know somebody is really serious about it and is how you can distinguish between a dramatic cry for attention or cry for help from somebody who is really ready to kill themselves. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 16:05:07 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 16:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] was socially blah blah Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > > > > > > > > I have no idea what you meant.......care to elaborate? > > > > That I know what dressage means too? Not that I'm bragging about it! > > Do you? I had no idea. I don't believe you. You just googled...... I dated two horsewomen in the last 3 years, remember? From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Fri Nov 4 21:08:06 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Fri Nov 4 16:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Where's the good gossip? Message-ID: Ok, there seems to be a lack of good gossip here lately. I feel so out of touch. So, what good ones have there been lately. Like Jude and Sienna are back together. And Mr Sulu came out of the closet. And Paris Hilton was eaten by a pack of rabid rats. Oh wait, that last one was just a dream of mine that if I say it enough will come true. From nobody at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 16:12:32 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Fri Nov 4 16:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dkb2c6$6gj$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > Looks like most people have managed to hit the middle - the ones on > > land, are these all strictly jumping deaths? > > Well yes, most of them didn't do it at the edges, so you have to > wonder why some of them did. I'd expect it's some kind of "climb to the highest peak then jump" mental goings on. Kinda anti-climatic to jump off a lower elevation, ain't it? From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 17:22:22 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Fri Nov 4 17:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns9704620001792spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... I came out 50 on the male side...so, looks like I don't need a sex change. :o) > > Q1 > Your score: 14 out of 20 > Average score for men: 15.1 out of 20 > Average score for women: 13.3 out of 20 My score: 17 out of 20 > > Q2 > Your score: 71% > Average score for men: 39% > Average score for women: 46% > My score: 0% Ugh...I hate tests like that :o) > Q3 > left thumb was on top > My left thumb was on top > Q4 > Empathising > Your empathy score is: 12 out of 20 > Average score for men: 7.9 out of 20 > Average score for women: 10.6 out of 20 > My empathy score is: 5 out of 20 > Q5 > Systemising > Your systemising score is: 10 out of 20 > Average score for men: 12.5 out of 20 > Average score for women: 8.0 out of 20 > My systemising score is: 15 out of 20 > Q6 > This task tested your ability to judge people's emotions. > Your score: 9 out of 10 > Average score for men: 6.6 out of 10 > Average score for women: 6.6 out of 10 > My score: 3 out of 10 > Q7 > Right Hand: 1.01 > Left Hand: 0.94 > Average ratio for men: 0.982 > Average ratio for women: 0.991 > Right Hand: 1 Left Hand: 0.98 > Q8 > Your choices suggest you prefer more masculine faces. > Your choices suggest you prefer more masculine faces I protest! I didn't find any of the women even mildly attractive....they were all fungly! I'm sure that skewed the results. :o) > Q9 > This task tested your ability to mentally rotate 3D shapes. > Your score: 11 out of 12 > Average score for men: 8.2 out of 12 > Average score for women: 7.1 out of 12 > My score: 9 out of 12 > Q10 > This task looked at your verbal fluency. > Your score: you associated 10 word(s) with grey and you named 6 word(s) > that mean happy. We are assuming that all the words you entered are > correct. > Average score for men: 11.4 words total > Average score for women: 12.4 words total > My score: you associated 7 word(s) with grey and you named 8 word(s) that mean happy. We are assuming that all the words you entered are correct. From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 18:07:36 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 18:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Tres amuse References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" | | > Did you see the x-ray of the guy who stuck a live artillery shell up | > there? My my..... | | LOL no. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to do that. As compared to the everyday kinda stupid to stick anything up there? From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Sat Nov 5 00:29:34 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Fri Nov 4 19:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkgae7$59l$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns9704680BE80E9spamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> >> do I even dare wonder what's going on here? what do I know? LOL > > The word 'dressage' was uttered from the cetacean across the pond...I > expressed > amazement that anyone besides me (or you) knew what that was.... What? Dressage, cetacean or the pond??? ;-)))))) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 20:55:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 21:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Risk of heart attack reduced! References: <1130887850.153439.19180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I don't know if this is true or not but I'm buying it. FP Health Benefits Of Sex Reduced risk of heart disease In a 2001 follow-up to the Queens University study mentioned above, researchers focused on cardiovascular health. Their finding? That by having sex three or more times a week, men reduced their risk of heart attack or stroke by half. In reporting these results, the co-author of the study, Shah Ebrahim, Ph.D., displayed the well-loved British gift for understatement: "The relationship found between frequency of sexual intercourse and mortality is of considerable public interest." From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 21:00:06 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 21:05:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Puns References: <436BAB49.862A7D31@mindspring.com> Message-ID: A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The stewardess looks at him and says, "I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion allowed per passenger." Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and says "Dam!". Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in the craft. Unsurprisingly it sank, proving once again that you can't have your kayak and heat it too. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says "I've lost my electron," The other says, "Are you sure?" The first replies "Yes, I'm positive." Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root canal? His goal: transcend dental medication. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why," they asked, as they moved off. "Because", he said, "I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer." A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named "Ahmal." The other goes to a family in Spain; they name him "Juan." Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, "They're twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal." These friars were behind on their belfry payments, so they opened up a small florist shop to raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good fathers to close down, but they would not. He went back and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the rival florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug in town to "persuade" them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and trashed their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop. Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that only Hugh can prevent florist friars. Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffer from bad breath. This made him (Oh, man, this is so bad, it's good)..... A super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis. (bet you start humming it) And finally, there was the person who sent ten different puns tofriends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh. No pun in ten did. If a wolf can take down a deer from either flank, does that make him bambidextrous? A man walks into a hardware store and asks if they have a tool for breaking up some hard ground. The shop assistant points to a row of suitable tools along the wall and replies: "Certainly sir, take your pick." A woman went to France on a wine-tasting vacation. Unfortunately, while in the capital city, she drank too much, fell from her hotel window and ended up in a body cast. When she got home, she swore never to get plastered in Paris again. He ate wheat even though he was allergic to it, because he was a gluten for punishment. As Reynoldo lit the votive candle at the grotto for San Jose de los Platanos, and prayed for the healthy delivery of his first child, he heard a disembodied voice say, "Your daughter will be born 17 inches long," To which Reynoldo replied, "Do you know the weight, too, San Jose? I once knew a bailiff who moonlighted as a bartender. He served subpoena coladas. He made money sending thousands of junk emails to people, but one day he made a mistake and sent a whole load of them to a famous Hollywood actress. She was so angry that she had him beaten up, and that's how he came to be known as The Star Mangled Spammer. Buffalo, NY became a city in 1832. In 2032, when the city of Buffalo is 200 years old, the mayor plans to hold a Bison-tennial Festival. A party was organised for a crowd of toad-stools. It was very crowded, but they were all happy.... There wasn't mush-room, but they didn't mind because they were all such fungi's. (I'm sorry. That last one was in spore taste) From devnull at spamcop.net Fri Nov 4 21:01:07 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Fri Nov 4 21:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Will Rogers' birthday References: <436B7CBE.C8849C99@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Today's the birthday of Will Rogers, born 1879. If you ain't doing nothing else with your internet connectivity, you could Google the man and read some of the funniest lines ever written. From six.million at dollar.man Fri Nov 4 21:25:47 2005 From: six.million at dollar.man (dwåcôn) Date: Fri Nov 4 21:30:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Over There is Over... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd437$973$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > dwåcôn wrote: >> ABC (http://tinyurl.com/77puc) reports that Chris Gerolmo and Steven >> Bochco's Iraq war series "Over There" will not be renewed for a second >> season. >> > > I was royally pissed when I read that yesterday! > >> >> It is sad that an intelligent show that addressed an unpopular war in >> an unbiased manner didn't catch on with the American viewing public. >> Or, maybe that was the issue? > > I think they didn't advertise it enough. I frequently forgot to watch it > because it was new and I wasn't used to tuning into FX at 10:00 on > Wednesdays (wasn't on long enough to form a habit in my head like CSI). > Hell, half the time I couldn't remember what channel it was on! I just TIVO'ed it as a season pass and was pleasntly surprised every Thursday when it would be there... -- Muff-So-Soft Shaving Cream For the smoothest female genitals... http://tinyurl.com/cwjya From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Sat Nov 5 00:04:58 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Sat Nov 5 01:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Will Rogers' birthday References: <436B7CBE.C8849C99@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Frog Prince did pass the time by typing: > Today's the birthday of Will Rogers, born 1879. > > If you ain't doing nothing else with your internet connectivity, you > could Google the man and read some of the funniest lines ever written. Will Rogers never met a spammer. -- DougW From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Fri Nov 4 23:07:02 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Nov 5 02:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Over There is Over... References: Message-ID: IMHO, I didn't want to watch a show about crap that's all over the news anyway.. Chris "dw?c?n" wrote in message news:dkc045$md4$1@news.spamcop.net... > ABC (http://tinyurl.com/77puc) reports that Chris Gerolmo and Steven > Bochco's Iraq war series "Over There" will not be renewed for a second > season. > > So we will never learn if Smoke goes back to Compton or does something with > his life... or if Mrs. B gets her life together... or if Sgt. Scream regrets > his re-upping or if he gets together with the French woman... > > WAH! > > It is sad that an intelligent show that addressed an unpopular war in an > unbiased manner didn't catch on with the American viewing public. Or, maybe > that was the issue? > > > > -- > Jennifer Lopez Lingerie *plus* Gourmet Goodies > www.cafepress.com/dwacon > > From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Fri Nov 4 23:11:37 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Sat Nov 5 02:15:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Brazil nuts References: Message-ID: For a minute there I thought you were going to talk about cooking! lol Chris "DougW" wrote in message news:dkghug$9fr$1@news.spamcop.net... > Nothing like watching protesters in Argentina > destroy the very place where they live protesting > someone who will be gone in a day or two. > > Astonishing show of mob mentality. > > The average IQ of the world is apparently > pushing double digits now. > > -- > DougW > > From BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com Sat Nov 5 12:33:31 2005 From: BNRAGMAOKKXT at spammotel.com (Canopus) Date: Sat Nov 5 07:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: woo hoo! England to ban smoking! References: Message-ID: Sylvesterthekat on 04/11/2005 wrote: >"Canopus" wrote in news:dk5tfb$em2$1 >@news.spamcop.net: > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/canopus_archives/ > >Love the photos by the way. Those rock formations in the White Desert are >amazing. Is the rock made of limestone or what? Do you do anything with >your photography, other than on that site? Thanks. The rocks are chalk. Most desert in Egypt were originally seas and not too long ago geologicaly at that as seen from modern shells and fossils found in them as well as large mammalian whale like remains found deep inland in the desert. No, I don't do anything else with my pictures yet other than that and sending them to printers for hard copy. Maybe when I have enough quality ones I'll think about a coffee-table book. -- Rob http://www.flickr.com/photos/canopus_archives/ From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Nov 5 10:15:21 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Nov 5 10:20:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] ... a woman scorned ... things that stick to your ribs References: <%T2bf.104196$K91.52443@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: Jury Rules Against Woman in Genital Gluing Jury rules against woman who glued man's genitals to abdomen; she is ordered to pay $46,200 GREENSBURG, Pa. A Westmoreland County jury on Friday ordered a woman to pay $46,200 to her ex-boyfriend for gluing his genitals to his abdomen. Jurors found in favor of Kenneth Slaby of Pittsburgh in his civil case against Gail O'Toole of Murrysville after three days of testimony and ordered the payment for pain, suffering and emotional distress, according to television station KDKA. "For all the pain and suffering I've been through, and the embarrassment, I don't think it's enough," Slaby told reporters after the verdict. Slaby's lawsuit said the two broke up in 1999 after dating for 10 months, and he began dating someone else. After he broke up with his other girlfriend, Slaby said, O'Toole invited him over to her home on May 7, 2000, where he fell asleep. He said he woke up to find that O'Toole had used Super Glue to stick his genitals to his abdomen, glued his buttocks together and spelled out a profanity on his back in nail polish. Slaby said O'Toole told him that her actions were payback for their breakup, and he had to walk a mile to a gas station to call for help. He pressed charges and O'Toole pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault and spent six months on probation. But O'Toole's attorney contended that the incident was nothing more than part of the couple's adventurous, consensual sex. From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Nov 5 10:16:20 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Nov 5 10:20:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Maw never told you to not sit on them nasty thangs.... References: <1131188127.373561.202760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Updated: 4:16 p.m. ET Nov. 3, 2005 LOS ANGELES - A Colorado man who had a panic attack when he found he was glued to a toilet seat in a Home Depot restroom has sued the home improvement giant for negligence, saying staff ignored his plight. Retired electrical engineer Bob Dougherty, 57, said Thursday he was stuck in the stall with his pants down for about 20 minutes and that two years after the 2003 incident he was suffering from post-traumatic stress, which has triggered diabetes and heart complications. "I have these nightmares every night where I am locked in this dark room, with no windows, no doors, no fresh air, no route for escape. I wake up in these cold sweats," Dougherty said. Spokesmen for Home Depot Inc. could not immediately be reached for comment. Dougherty said in a lawsuit filed last week in Boulder, Colorado, that he thought he was having a heart attack when he realized his buttocks and legs were stuck to the toilet seat in the Home Depot restroom in Louisville, Colorado. He explained his plight to an employee who came into the restroom but other Home Depot staffers thought it was a hoax and he had to wait until someone else came in to again summon help. Dougherty is claiming unspecified damages for help with medical and psychiatric bills, for humiliation and for the diabetes he said he has developed as a result of the stress. "Home Depot not only ignored my plight, they refused my plight," he said. Dougherty said he suspected the glue had been placed there as a prank by three teens seen earlier in the store. From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Sat Nov 5 19:20:26 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Sat Nov 5 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Will Rogers' birthday References: <436B7CBE.C8849C99@mindspring.com> Message-ID: In article , "DougW" wrote: > Frog Prince did pass the time by typing: > > Today's the birthday of Will Rogers, born 1879. > > > > If you ain't doing nothing else with your internet connectivity, you > > could Google the man and read some of the funniest lines ever written. > > Will Rogers never met a spammer. We don't do the s-word in .social. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From devnull at spamcop.net Sat Nov 5 20:43:03 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sat Nov 5 20:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] If the government can't keep track of something as dumb as a cow how do they think the can track terrorist? References: <_Fvaf.55768$RG4.9685@fe05.lga> Message-ID: Mad cow may have gotten into human food supply http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/nation/13055406.htm From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Sun Nov 6 18:27:36 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Sun Nov 6 13:30:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Where's the good gossip? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Sylvesterthekat wrote: > >> I'd think Shatner would have an opinion to share > > I'd prefer if Shatner kept his mouth shut regardless of the topic at > hand. I can't imagine he's a homophobe, working in Hollywood, but he > could surprise me. I would say that Shatner is far too busy feeding his own ego to worry much about what anybody else is like. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:07:39 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Nigerian scammer admits he's a scammer References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" wrote in message news:dke76b$til$1@news.spamcop.net... > David Dean wrote: >> In article , >> Borgholio wrote: >> >> >>>Amazing.... >> >> >> Leave that sp*m out of .social, yuck! >> > > Oh it's more entertainment than sp*m, I think. :) especially in this case..... LOL Hiya Borgy Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:12:18 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Heidi" wrote in message news:dkctcb$5qf$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dkcqki$49t$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> "Heidi" wrote in message >> > At best that's collusion, at worst it's outright price fixing and or >> > gouging. >> > >> >> now THAT answer IS bullshit... LOL > > Prove it? you said collusion... wouldn't that entail one station calling the other and saying "hey let's jack up our prices by 3 cents a gallon today ok? and the other station would have to say "ok, not a problem"............ *sigh* Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Nov 7 03:07:40 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:10:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkmg91$ncd$1@news.spamcop.net: > you said collusion... wouldn't that entail one station calling the > other > and saying "hey let's jack up our prices by 3 cents a gallon today ok? > and the other station would have to say "ok, not a > problem"............ Well, once again, "up here", if one station raises their prices, generally others will raise (or lower) theirs within the next couple of hours at the most. It seems not to bother anyone up here, so maybe it's okay? (up here that is ) From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:15:30 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:10:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkd4kg$9if$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd2ou$8ek$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> >> And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD that >> forced >> them to RAISE their gas prices because they were killing the local >> stations >> by undercutting their prices so much. Local dealers were claiming they >> were >> selling below cost (illegal in this state), although it wasn't proven to >> by >> true IIRC. >> > I'd like to know exactly how they managed to do that - or who they cut a > deal with > that's better than what local stations can get. Maybe the local stations > are the > "middle man" that Wally World cut out? > > more than likely the gas prices were a loss leader, and they were making up the difference out of other item's profits. Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:17:01 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:10:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dkd9n1$chl$6@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" > > | > And Walmart/Costco gas prices? They actually passed a law in MD that > forced > | > them to RAISE their gas prices because they were killing the local > stations > | > by undercutting their prices so much. Local dealers were claiming they > were > | > selling below cost (illegal in this state), although it wasn't proven > to > by > | > true IIRC. > | > > | I'd like to know exactly how they managed to do that - or who they cut a > deal with > | that's better than what local stations can get. Maybe the local > stations > are the > | "middle man" that Wally World cut out? > > Buy direct from the source at quantity and them pay for transport. I know > of folk that did that in the '70s shortage until the DoE cut off the > deals. > > yeah that's plausible too.. specially if they bypassed the local distributor... that'd be around 10 to 15 cents a gallon there, on top of whatever "volume" discount they could negotiate. Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:19:50 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns97035A088E362innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: > >> that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! > > Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? the smell for starters.......... Bill /me goes to read other post and see if that get's backed up in them LOL From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:20:19 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkdbqd$dt7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns97035A088E362innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:dkdald$d5r$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> > that ain't to bad, I guess. better than having a paper mill nearby! >> >> Paper Mill? What could be bad about that? > > THE SMELL?????? > > ROFLMAO see we DO agree on some stuff...... Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:21:37 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:15:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dkdmtp$khd$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns97036DFB0CF2Finnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> "indigo" wrote in >> news:dkdgup$h5q$1@news.spamcop.net: >> >> >> Yeah right. >> Doofus is as Doofus does. ;-) > > Not sure if there are any paper mills still in Maine, if there are, you > need to go to > one and be justifiably horrified...... > > very true, in fact the rendering plant at the slaughterhouse smells better than a papermill..... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:23:14 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkds2l$o30$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Frog Prince wrote: >> >> HE'S never experianced the smell of a paper plant and HE'S the doofus? > > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the > second > time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and never have > smelled a frigging paper mill? > > Lucky? D&R Bill From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:24:06 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:20:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dke53n$sv3$1@news.spamcop.net... > "JohnL" > | > | > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the > | > second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and > | > never have smelled a frigging paper mill? > | > | Hey, there's a LOT of things I have never smelled, and never intend to. > :P > > Naw not going there > > but Froggy.... it's WIDE OPEN.... don't be afraid...go right ahead..... Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Nov 7 03:17:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:20:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" wrote in news:dkmgv5$nob$1@news.spamcop.net: > but Froggy.... it's WIDE OPEN.... don't be afraid...go right ahead..... EEEEWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!! From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:21:18 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:25:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" < | >> > At best that's collusion, at worst it's outright price fixing and or | >> > gouging. | >> > | >> | >> now THAT answer IS bullshit... LOL | > | > Prove it? | you said collusion... wouldn't that entail one station calling the other | and saying "hey let's jack up our prices by 3 cents a gallon today ok? and | the other station would have to say "ok, not a problem"............ | | | *sigh* | And that does not happen? From devnull at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:24:18 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:25:32 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Bcs1" | > | | > | > Did you have a choice when you smelt your first one? I didn't. Or the | > | > second time. Or the third. How can a guy live to be as old as John and | > | > never have smelled a frigging paper mill? | > | | > | Hey, there's a LOT of things I have never smelled, and never intend to. | > :P | > | > Naw not going there | > | > | but Froggy.... it's WIDE OPEN.... don't be afraid...go right ahead..... | | Bill And you've been there to check the clearances? the ultimate escort service ... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:46:38 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:40:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Mr K. Mean" wrote in message news:slrndmjvpd.bf7.i83vgwcn02@sdf.lonestar.org... > Bcs1 wrote: >> >> Yes, he has been gone for a while. >> The thing is there's always elements of procedure, dept heads, intel and >> many other things that carry from one administration to the next no >> matter >> who's administration it is.... just as there are things from this >> administration that will carry over to the next one... that's just a fact >> and while that fact remains solid and true, I wonder if the critics of >> that >> administration will have such a short term memory that they too will >> forget >> the problems that will be in part brought on by Bush's administrations >> actions in favor of directing their criticisms at the new administration? > > Yeah, that really seems to be the case here. The last administration > left a detailed plan on how to deal with AQ and bin Laden, warned them > over and over that it was very important, but then we saw how that > turned out. They blew it off completely. They cleaned house and put > their political hacks in place (yeah, talking about you Brownie). you mean when BC said "We have no actionable reason to arrest him" or do you mean the part about the guy who was told to destroy 1.3 terra-bytes of info about one of the trade center attackers? now don't get me wrong, those comments are not personally aimed at you... but even with everything that has been published (outside of books designed to "rake in the $" and twisted fallicies put out by M.M. i've seen nothing that's as clear cut as the statement you've made... and there was even a thing on the radio way back when, when during an interview with that clarke dude, he contradicted some of the very things his book said... which by the way i did not bother to bring up in here at the time, because i was sick and tired of the psudo-poli-bukkshite.. which by the way i still pretty much am.. LMAO now in all fairness i googled the following phrase...... Clarke contradicts his book here are a few (not many) of the results in the order they were presented, and not cutting any of them out... http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dianawest/2004/03/29/11218.html http://www.elca.org/youth/faithlens/week261.html http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/25/rice.rebuttal/ they're all listed in there ones bashing clarke, ones bashing bush,,, and there's no way that ALL of those are wrong on either side of the issue, and there's tons more... but i won't waste bandwidth typing /pasting them in here... like i said i'm fed up with about 98% of the whole mess. so to finish the reply it is most definately NOT as clear cut as you've described it... but your reply does in fact prove my theory.. Hugs bro Bill PS. the surplus you refer to below was on paper, and was based on 10 years out........ /me runs > > I guess there will be a legacy from this current administration that > won't soon be forgotten, that of turning the budget surplus from the > Clinton years into the largest deficits in history. In fact, your > grandchildren will probably still be touched by that. > no grandkids for me..... gotta HAVE kids first, and there's NO chance of that happening any more....... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:48:45 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:45:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dkd9n0$chl$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Bcs1" wrote in message > news:dkcpo1$3pk$1@news.spamcop.net... > | > | "D.F. Manno" wrote in message > | news:dfm2a3l0t2-29A317.22254202112005@news.cesmail.net... > | > In article , "Bcs1" > | > wrote: > | > > | >> I don't bring Clinton up every time someone says bush lied, in fact > I > | >> personally have mostly brought him up only when it's relevant to my > | >> reply. > | >> and of course we all know there was never any corruption in the > Clinton > | >> administration LOL > | > > | > Clinton's been out of office for four years, nine months, 13 days, 10 > | > hours and > | > 25 minutes (as I write this). What corruption there was is over. It's > a > | > dead > | > issue to everyone except those seeking to whitewash the Shrub's > | > performance in > | > office. > | > | Yes, he has been gone for a while. > | The thing is there's always elements of procedure, dept heads, intel > and > | many other things that carry from one administration to the next no > matter > | who's administration it is.... just as there are things from this > | administration that will carry over to the next one... that's just a > fact > | and while that fact remains solid and true, I wonder if the critics of > that > | administration will have such a short term memory that they too will > forget > | the problems that will be in part brought on by Bush's administrations > | actions in favor of directing their criticisms at the new > administration? > > I take small solace in the fact (hope?) that the next adminstration can't > be > any worse for the United States and WeThePeople > > yeah hopefully whoever the next administration is, things won't be as rocky..... From bcs1 at spamcop.net Sun Nov 6 22:52:48 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Sun Nov 6 22:50:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] why not? was Classic Bush References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkd3o8$8ut$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Line item veto" > > you know it's funny that you say that, because I've been wondering why Bush didn't use that on some of the things he said he disagreed with when he signed them.........? From borgholio at storymind.com Sun Nov 6 21:29:16 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 7 00:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Nigerian scammer admits he's a scammer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > "Borgholio" wrote in message > news:dke76b$til$1@news.spamcop.net... > >>David Dean wrote: >> >>>In article , >>> Borgholio wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Amazing.... >>> >>> >>> Leave that sp*m out of .social, yuck! >>> >> >>Oh it's more entertainment than sp*m, I think. :) > > > especially in this case..... LOL > > Hiya Borgy > > Bill > > Hey Bill. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Nov 7 01:02:33 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Nov 7 04:05:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] More unrecovery by female... Message-ID: *sighs* Continuing ongoing crap with $female_friend is severely taxing. I'm doing what I can to keep this whole thing from collapsing entirely, but I'm rapidly running out of patience for all the shenanigans that are happening. Even though I can completely relate to her problems right now (hugely overloaded with crap from school, work, home life, other issues with friends, and so forth -- every time she sits down to get this resolved, something new pops up...she said it's very frustrating for her too), I'm running out of patience and whatnot. I've been patient for over a month now, and she still hasn't found the time to spare for an hour or two phone conversation. I'm sorry, if there's something important that needs doing, I can find the time to deal with it...maybe not today, but I could say "I can't do it today, but I'll be able to squeeze an hour in on Sunday, but then I'll need to study..." or something. But after waiting nearly a month and a half, and then she says "oh, it'll be at least another two weeks until I might be able to find the time"...that's just unacceptable to me. I've asked her directly if she doesn't want to talk to me ever again, or if there's some huge, irreconcilable issue she has with me that would prevent us from continuing to even be friends or communicating...and she's said no. She's never lied to me before (and made a point of being extremely honest at all time, even when she knew the truth would hurt me), so I don't believe she's lying now. She's indicated that she really /does/ want to talk to me about this, but simply is unable to find the time. I believed that for the first few weeks, but I'm rapidly beginning to lose faith in that excuse. Rare is it for me to lose my patience, but this is just getting to be too much. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 08:44:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 08:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > > Q4 > > Empathising > > Your empathy score is: 12 out of 20 > > Average score for men: 7.9 out of 20 > > Average score for women: 10.6 out of 20 > > > > My empathy score is: 5 out of 20 I am so not shocked..... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 08:45:55 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 08:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "Spamvireslayer" wrote: > > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? > > Hey, what Indi and Frog do in private is none of our business. > Hey now, that was uncalled for! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 08:52:01 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 08:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > no grandkids for me..... gotta HAVE kids first, and there's NO > chance of that happening any more....... What, you got snipped or something? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 08:56:41 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: why not? was Classic Bush References: Message-ID: Bcs1 wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkd3o8$8ut$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > "Line item veto" > > > > > you know it's funny that you say that, because I've been wondering > why Bush didn't use that on some of the things he said he disagreed > with when he signed them.........? He didn't use it because it never became law -- the legislature refused to give up their ability to sneak pork into budget bills. Speaking of the shrub, my disgust level went up even higher for him this weekend (hard to do) when I read that he threatened to veto a bill because John McCain attached a "no torture" item to it. Bush then backed down, but still asked that the CIA be excluded from being included in the "no torture" statute. I HATE this fucking administration! From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 09:13:18 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Alan Alda just won another Emmy Message-ID: Anyone catch the live debate on "The West Wing" last night? What a wonderful show of acting! Although Jimmy Smits stuttered a couple of times, it came off pretty flawlessly (except for an irritating Ellen DeGeneres). Too bad real life candidates can't debate like that! S-kat, if you watched it (or any other west coasters), how did your show go? They actually broadcast two separate live events, repeating the show for the west coast. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 09:18:16 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > | > > Pardon??? Frog in your throat? | > | > Hey, what Indi and Frog do in private is none of our business. | > | | Hey now, that was uncalled for! Very likely but recall the rules if a shot presents ... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Nov 7 14:42:00 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:45:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dknnp9$f35$1 @news.spamcop.net: > Very likely but recall the rules if a shot presents ... At times Indi is so easy. ;-) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 09:20:11 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 09:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Careful drinking OZee beer!! Message-ID: http://www.snopes.com/photos/advertisements/bungee.asp This one is incomplete still trying to find the entire vid From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:04:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:05:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dknnp9$f35$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > Very likely but recall the rules if a shot presents ... > > At times Indi is so easy. ;-) Only to the female species! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:16:21 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:20:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was socially blah blah References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkgie4$abf$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > Do you? I had no idea. I don't believe you. You just googled...... > > I dated two horsewomen in the last 3 years, remember? Who could remember? :D It all becomes a blur.......I remember horses, I don't remember anything ever being said about what was done with them..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:17:36 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:20:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message news:Xns970486BDE5FADspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... > Quite so. And the ones who aren't serious tend to do things that aren't > guaranteed fatal. Like stick their head in a gas oven, take pills or cut > their wrists. I tried sticking my head in my oven once. It was an electric one..... I don't think that's how it's supposed to work.... ;) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:19:13 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dkmhde$o1m$1@news.spamcop.net... > > And that does not happen? > Of course it does. Very amusing to watch the prices being dropped at stations on opposite sides of the street within minutes of each other last Friday. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Nov 7 15:22:25 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:25:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dknqdh$gc2$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > JohnL wrote: >> At times Indi is so easy. ;-) > > Only to the female species! > > Uh, yeah, oookay. :P From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:25:48 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was socially blah blah References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkgie4$abf$2@news.spamcop.net... > > > > > > Do you? I had no idea. I don't believe you. You just > > > googled...... > > > > I dated two horsewomen in the last 3 years, remember? > > Who could remember? :D It all becomes a blur....... Yeah, me and my wild dating life *are* hard to keep up with, eh? ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:28:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:30:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] line 441 error respond for DD Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > > > Hey now, that was uncalled for! > > I'm sorry if you took that too seriously. I was only teasing. Feel > free to take a few extra pot shots at me if you feel the need. 8-) Don't worry, my rapier wit will catch up with you in due time ;-) P.S. That was actually a pretty great dig you got in there, I must admit...... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 10:52:40 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 10:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: why not? was Classic Bush References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > He didn't use it because it never became law > > IIRC, it did pass both houses. It was challenged right away, but > thrown out of court for "lack of standing" because it had never been > used. When Clinton finally used it, the law was found to be > unconstitutional. > > I wish that article described what really made the line item veto "unconstitutional"....... From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:00:07 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:05:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dknln1$e1j$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Eponym wrote: >> > Q4 >> > Empathising >> > Your empathy score is: 12 out of 20 >> > Average score for men: 7.9 out of 20 >> > Average score for women: 10.6 out of 20 >> > >> >> My empathy score is: 5 out of 20 > > I am so not shocked..... > I tend to think being empathetic leads others to take advantage of you, and that many people deserve a certain amount of skepticism. Granted, not all people, but there are plenty of people that play on emotion to their advantage. And since the other test suggests I'm not much of a mind reader (and who is really), I'd probably be considered very gullible...if I were more empathetic. So, it balances out. :o) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 7 16:03:24 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:05:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was socially blah blah References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dknr91$gni$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "indigo" wrote in message > news:dkgie4$abf$2@news.spamcop.net... >> > >> > Do you? I had no idea. I don't believe you. You just googled...... >> >> I dated two horsewomen in the last 3 years, remember? > > Who could remember? :D It all becomes a blur.......I remember horses, I > don't > remember anything ever being said about what was done with them..... Well, as you weren't arrested, I think whatever you did with them must have been OK............ ;-) From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 7 16:04:23 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dknr9d$gnj$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Sylvesterthekat" wrote in message > news:Xns970486BDE5FADspamalyzerluzernet@216.154.195.61... >> Quite so. And the ones who aren't serious tend to do things that aren't >> guaranteed fatal. Like stick their head in a gas oven, take pills or cut >> their wrists. > > I tried sticking my head in my oven once. It was an electric one..... I > don't think > that's how it's supposed to work.... ;) It might work if you're kneeling in a puddle of water at the same time as you touch the live element......... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:16:33 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dkntuv$iq5$1@news.spamcop.net... > > It might work if you're kneeling in a puddle of water at the same time as > you touch the live element......... That would totally ruin my hair, dude, like the singeing isn't bad enough! From porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk Mon Nov 7 16:32:38 2005 From: porpoise1954 at yahoo.co.uk (Porpoise) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Golden Gate suicides References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message news:dknunu$jcg$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Porpoise" wrote in message > news:dkntuv$iq5$1@news.spamcop.net... >> >> It might work if you're kneeling in a puddle of water at the same time as >> you touch the live element......... > > That would totally ruin my hair, dude, like the singeing isn't bad enough! Yabbut, nobbut, yabbut.......... You asked!! ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:44:05 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was socially blah blah References: Message-ID: "Porpoise" wrote in message news:dkntt4$ip3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in message > > > > Who could remember? :D It all becomes a blur.......I remember horses, I > > don't > > remember anything ever being said about what was done with them..... > > Well, as you weren't arrested, I think whatever you did with them must have > been OK............ ;-) Well, I don't know what HE did with them, but you know, once a girl is used to looking at horses, a man's equipment sort of pales by comparison.....prolly why those relationships didn't work out - Indi couldn't measure up...... ;) Speaking of which, anyone watch Dirty Jobs on the Discovery Channel? To quote Mike Rowe, "the fully engorged member of a grown-up horse is a truly shocking sight, and seeing it upclose can be have a traumatic and varied effect on the unprepared." Bwahahah.... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:49:03 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: why not? was Classic Bush References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > "indigo" wrote: > > > I wish that article described what really made the line item veto > > "unconstitutional"....... > > Info about the actual case: > > That's BS! Because the Constitution does not expressly permit it, it's therefore invalid? BS! How many other programs and actions the government takes are not EXPRESSLY permitted? Dozens! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:47:57 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:50:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Maw never told you to not sit on them nasty thangs.... References: <1131188127.373561.202760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dkiic9$grm$2@news.spamcop.net... > "Home Depot not only ignored my plight, they refused my plight," he > said. Dougherty said he suspected the glue had been placed there as a > prank by three teens seen earlier in the store. > I saw the guy on TV this morning - sounds like Home Depot was being totally shitty about it... From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:51:26 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: Eponym wrote: > > I tend to think being empathetic leads others to take advantage of > you, That's one way to look at it.....your way. I disagree, however. Empathy is what make the human race "human". From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:51:16 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:55:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9704789B2AD3Ainnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Oh, it's lotsa fun! > Specially this one area, many bears around. I haven't seen one yet, but my > S.O.'s father took a picture of a Black Bear from about 20 feet away (and > then took off like a bat out of hell on his Quad ) > ...And there's also Grizzlies around here. Good reason to camp in Maine, they only have black bears - and they mostly eat at the dump.... ;) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 11:52:47 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 11:55:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: was socially blah blah References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Well, I don't know what HE did with them, but you know, once a girl > is used to looking at horses, a man's equipment sort of pales by > comparison.... That's just sick..... prolly why those relationships didn't work out - Indi > couldn't measure up...... ;) > Not hardly ;-) From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Mon Nov 7 16:55:02 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Mon Nov 7 12:00:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dko0p0$khc$1@news.spamcop.net: > Good reason to camp in Maine, they only have black bears - and they > mostly eat at the dump.... ;) See, there's the problem... They _mostly_ eat at the dump. Do you want to take the chance of being on of those other times? ;-) That's why we don't go camping with a tent. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 7 09:43:14 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 7 12:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > *sighs* Continuing ongoing crap with $female_friend is severely taxing. > > I'm doing what I can to keep this whole thing from collapsing entirely, > but I'm rapidly running out of patience for all the shenanigans that are > happening. > > Even though I can completely relate to her problems right now (hugely > overloaded with crap from school, work, home life, other issues with > friends, and so forth -- every time she sits down to get this resolved, > something new pops up...she said it's very frustrating for her too), I'm > running out of patience and whatnot. I've been patient for over a month > now, and she still hasn't found the time to spare for an hour or two > phone conversation. > > I'm sorry, if there's something important that needs doing, I can find > the time to deal with it...maybe not today, but I could say "I can't do > it today, but I'll be able to squeeze an hour in on Sunday, but then > I'll need to study..." or something. But after waiting nearly a month > and a half, and then she says "oh, it'll be at least another two weeks > until I might be able to find the time"...that's just unacceptable to me. > > I've asked her directly if she doesn't want to talk to me ever again, or > if there's some huge, irreconcilable issue she has with me that would > prevent us from continuing to even be friends or communicating...and > she's said no. She's never lied to me before (and made a point of being > extremely honest at all time, even when she knew the truth would hurt > me), so I don't believe she's lying now. She's indicated that she really > /does/ want to talk to me about this, but simply is unable to find the > time. > > I believed that for the first few weeks, but I'm rapidly beginning to > lose faith in that excuse. Rare is it for me to lose my patience, but > this is just getting to be too much. > Just let it go. Move on. I found that when dealing with long distance relationships, or relationships where she's extremely busy, just move on and if things heat up between you two again, treat it as a pleasant surprise. Back during the summer I met a really nice girl online who lives in Albuquerque. We planned on getting together sometime in September, but she works for the Red Cross and was (understandably) a bit busy when Katrina hit. So for the period of about 2 months or so we exchanged a few emails a week but other than that I had already considered the "relationship" to be a dead-end. As fate would have it, she got an entire week off last month and I flew up to spend it with her. Turned out to be the first vacation in many years where everything went right. :) Now she's busy again and I may not see her until December, so it's back to the same old routine. It's actually rather pain-free for me, since I'm not constantly wondering whether or not I'll see her again. I adopt the attitude of "Who cares?" and it makes the distance / time apart surprisingly easy to deal with. And if it turns out that I never see her again...I'm already prepared mentally. :) From kenbrody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 12:42:45 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Mon Nov 7 12:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> Message-ID: <436F9215.9102BAA0@spamcop.net> Borgholio wrote: > > Mike Easter wrote: > > Borgholio wrote: > > > >>Mike Easter wrote: > >> > >>>Mike Brown's 2003 UB313 for one is definitely larger than Pluto. > >> > >>I thought it was not yet determined but likely to be no bigger... > > > > > > > > Size matters [...] > > "We are 100 percent confident that this is the first object bigger than > > Pluto ever found in the outer solar system," Brown added. > > > > > > Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to > > say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. > > Thx for the brain-food. I guess the "Pro-Pluto" group has some esplaining > to do. :) It'll be grandfathered in. -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From kenbrody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 12:45:47 2005 From: kenbrody at spamcop.net (Kenneth Brody) Date: Mon Nov 7 12:50:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Nigerian scammer admits he's a scammer References: Message-ID: <436F92CB.4213ED09@spamcop.net> Borgholio wrote: > > Amazing.... > > ---------------------------------- > > I'm impressed. You actually admit that you are a scammer. Acknowledging > that you have a problem is the first step in finding a cure. I give you my > sincerest best wishes in putting your criminal past behind you and finding a > real job. > > All my love, > > Mr. Borg Holio. > > Abdulla Reza wrote: > > >> Dear Borgholio, > >> Thanks for making mockry of my situation. > >> Anyway, I do not blame you, cos of what scammers are doing. Take care > and God bless. [... snip 419 stuff ...] Actually, he's saying "I'm not a scammer, but I don't blame you for mocking me because of all those people out there who are scammers". -- +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ | Kenneth J. Brody | www.hvcomputer.com | | | kenbrody/at\spamcop.net | www.fptech.com | #include | +-------------------------+--------------------+-----------------------------+ Don't e-mail me at: From nobody at devnull.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 13:49:11 2005 From: nobody at devnull.spamcop.net (Eponym) Date: Mon Nov 7 13:50:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: a bit of friday fun References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dko0mf$kgq$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Eponym wrote: >> >> I tend to think being empathetic leads others to take advantage of >> you, > > That's one way to look at it.....your way. I disagree, however. Empathy is > what make the human race "human". > Unfortunately, humans often leave a lot to be desired in respect to being honest, reasonable, or rational. :o/ From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 14:04:04 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Mon Nov 7 14:10:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] War room at Wal Mart Message-ID: Guess they're thinking the movie isn't good news.... http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/01/business/01walmart.ready.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1131113232-tfvsWUm71jh8iRyFGKS0Fg From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 14:26:31 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 14:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: talk about socially irresponsible References: Message-ID: "indigo" | > > Very likely but recall the rules if a shot presents ... | > | > At times Indi is so easy. ;-) | | Only to the female species! Maybe that's why he's not getting any he's hunting a species and the rest are out looking for sex. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Mon Nov 7 21:36:58 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Mon Nov 7 15:40:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: <436F9215.9102BAA0@spamcop.net> References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> <436F9215.9102BAA0@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Kenneth Brody wrote: > Borgholio wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> >>> Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to >>> say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. >> Thx for the brain-food. I guess the "Pro-Pluto" group has some esplaining >> to do. :) > > It'll be grandfathered in. Blah blah blah, you know, if they take Pluto away, there will be hell to pay. Pluto is just so cool and mysterious and it has that kick ass funky moon too. From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 7 12:39:02 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 7 15:40:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Pluto has three moons! In-Reply-To: References: <436A6A18.2DB6D9E2@spamcop.net> <436F9215.9102BAA0@spamcop.net> Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > Kenneth Brody wrote: > >> Borgholio wrote: >> >>> Mike Easter wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Then, for the smaller guys/gals we have to deal with UB61 & Sedna, to >>>> say nothing of all of the other 'thingies'. >>> >>> Thx for the brain-food. I guess the "Pro-Pluto" group has some >>> esplaining >>> to do. :) >> >> >> It'll be grandfathered in. > > > Blah blah blah, you know, if they take Pluto away, there will be hell to > pay. Pluto is just so cool and mysterious and it has that kick ass > funky moon too. "Kick ass funky moon"? Charon is large comet. What's so special about that? From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 16:19:31 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 16:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most used email address on Usenet? References: Message-ID: me@privacy.net wrote: > nobody@spamcop.net .............. 15,800 <------------ That's us! Heh. I frequently run into problems trying to get into websites that demand an email address to enter -- "nobody@spamcop.net is already taken, please enter another address" ;-) I don't think nobody@spamcop.net > has ever been authorized for use on other servers. Long time ago Julian told everyone to use that email address here on the groups if we didn't want to use a real one. Dave Null owns it. From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 16:23:42 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Mon Nov 7 16:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: War room at Wal Mart References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > Guess they're thinking the movie isn't good news.... > > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/01/business/01walmart.ready.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1131113232-tfvsWUm71jh8iRyFGKS0Fg I can't wait to see this! "The first big challenge of the strategy will come Nov. 1 with the premiere of an unflattering documentary. "Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price" was made on a shoestring budget of $1.8 million and will be released in about two dozen theaters. But its director, Robert Greenwald, hopes to show the movie in thousands of homes and churches in the next month. The possibility that it might become a cult hit like Michael Moore's 1989 unsympathetic portrait of General Motors, "Roger & Me," has Wal-Mart worried. " From pete+usenet at heypete.com Mon Nov 7 14:23:32 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Mon Nov 7 17:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > Sounds like a beer after the shooting range tonight /is/ in order. > Look forward to seeing you. Excellent! -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 7 14:25:20 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 7 17:30:07 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > David Dean wrote: > > >>Sounds like a beer after the shooting range tonight /is/ in order. >>Look forward to seeing you. > > > Excellent! > Nice thing about beer (or soda) + firearms is that the more you drink, the more targets you have. :) From nobody at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 17:55:10 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Mon Nov 7 18:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Most used email address on Usenet? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkogd3$t3h$1@news.spamcop.net... Maybe now someone should point out all the different ip addresses the trolls post from, eh? From borgholio at storymind.com Mon Nov 7 16:11:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Mon Nov 7 19:15:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Nice thing about beer (or soda) + firearms is that the more you drink, the >>more targets you have. :) > > > Well, I don't plan on drinking until I'm done shooting. > Even soda? :) From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 22:57:27 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 23:05:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] From The New York Times References: Message-ID: November 7, 2005 Editorial Observer And Now to 'Streamline' King Coal's Beheading of Appalachia By FRANCIS X. CLINES Six years ago, Jim Weekley, a watchful retiree in Appalachia, became angry enough to defend his seven-tenths-of-an-acre homestead in West Virginia's Pigeon Roost Hollow from a gargantuan mining process with a formidable name - mountaintop removal - that tells only half the truth. The other half is the obliteration of countless streams, forests and hamlets lying below as mountaintops are systematically decapitated with dynamite to leave mesa-like tabletops. Rich low-sulfur coal veins are thereby exposed and mammoth 20-story-tall bulldozers move in to dump millions of tons of slag waste down into mountain hollows like Pigeon Roost. "I ran free in this hollow all my life," explained Mr. Weekley, the lone holdout who refused to sell his place in one of the serial hamlets routinely bought for evacuation and obliteration by mountaintop miners. The machines operate round the clock across four states, and from the air the earth scars resemble tracts of moonscape peeling nonstop across verdant Appalachia. Surprisingly, Mr. Weekley's court challenge - that federal environmental law bars such vast destruction of streams and forests - succeeded well enough to make the industry still known as King Coal tremble on its throne. Companies ballyhooed "environmental awards" for Potemkin restoration projects. "Lipstick on a corpse" was the apt description of Ken Hechler, a firebrand politician and environmentalist trusted in the community hollows. Pro-industry officials scrambled to order up election-season studies of mountaintop removal - even while they permitted it to continue. That was five years ago. Last month, the Bush administration demonstrated just how regal King Coal remains when it issued a long-delayed report on mountaintop removal that callously announced that "these expensive studies" on damages to the countryside have become too "exorbitant" to be continued. That's right: the Department of Interior bureaucracy, stacked with key political appointees from the mining industry, would bury the mountaintop abuses and complaints like so much slag under the government's deficit-bloated budget. The report amounted to a stunning bait-and-switch in which various worthy proposals to control the size and damages of mountaintop removal, which were present in early drafts, were never dealt with in the final report. Scientific studies confirmed the damage to streams and forests but were attached as addendums, as if they were frivolous afterthoughts. The hollow dwellers of Appalachia discovered that damage control means something quite different in Washington: the report's main proposal was to promise companies a "centralizing and streamlining" of current paperwork to make it easier, not more arduous, to strip-mine mountains. That fulfilled a directive of Deputy Interior Secretary Steven Griles, a former mining industry lobbyist, that was made in 2001, before he resigned to go back to lobbying. In the course of the study, thousands of Appalachian residents pleaded in hearings and petitions that the government bring mountaintop removal under control. Many of them are old-timers from the boom era of underground mining, dismayed that the pastoral hollows of their retirement are being buried. Many hamlets spared condemnation found the plateau-like configuration of the stripped mountains causing torrential drainage shifts and floods dismissed as "acts of God" by mining officials. "It wasn't God who went up on our mountain with a dozer to leave it naked," observed Betty Banks amid the muck in her house in Kentucky's Chopping Block Hollow. Estimates are that by the end of the decade, an area larger than the state of Delaware will have been laid waste by dynamite and bulldozer. The Bush administration's report, issued in the name of environmental impact, will only speed this course. The Army Corps of Engineers, so busy lately repairing the levee devastation in New Orleans, has been just as busy rubber-stamping permits to mountain strip. Just across the road from Mr. Weekley's continuing stand against eviction, the Corps recently approved the decapitation of Blair Mountain. This is a historic Appalachian site where thousands of armed union and antiunion forces fought in 1921 in an epic confrontation that saw federal troops intervene with bombs. With this piece of the past facing burial along with much of the present, the Corps spared 180 acres as a Disneyland-like oasis, but left far more for the dynamiters. Thus does Appalachian history march on in earth-shaking fashion, with peep-peep punctuation sounds as the giant dozers move back and forth, shaving the mountaintops into the hollows below. From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 23:10:58 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 23:35:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Bombs References: <436EB2EE.9C6F0EC5@mindspring.com> <436EC6D7.A3978BC3@mindspring.com> Message-ID: Why does the Air Force need expensive new bombers? Have the people we've been bombing over the years been complaining? -- George Wallace "A terrorist is someone who has a bomb, but doesn't have an air force" - William Blum From devnull at spamcop.net Mon Nov 7 23:16:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Mon Nov 7 23:35:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Makes you want to switching to Citgo References: <436EB2EE.9C6F0EC5@mindspring.com> Message-ID: http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1738 From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 00:12:17 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 01:15:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | >>Sounds like a beer after the shooting range tonight /is/ in order. | >>Look forward to seeing you. | > | > | > Excellent! | > | | | Nice thing about beer (or soda) + firearms is that the more you drink, the | more targets you have. :) When you drink enough to see double that long past time you should stop shooting. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 00:13:10 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 01:15:33 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | > | > | >>Nice thing about beer (or soda) + firearms is that the more you drink, the | >>more targets you have. :) | > | > | > Well, I don't plan on drinking until I'm done shooting. | > | | Even soda? :) Drink enough and there is all the more reason to 'aim straight From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 00:42:28 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 01:15:39 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Lesson for Today References: <1131367135.335656.90230@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: One day, while a woodcutter was cutting a branch of a tree above a river, his axe fell into the river. When he cried out, the Lord appeared and asked, "Why are you crying?" The woodcutter replied that his axe has fallen into water, and he needed the axe to make his living. The Lord went down into the water and reappeared with a golden axe. "Is this your axe?" the Lord asked. The woodcutter replied, "No." The Lord again went down and came up with a silver axe. "Is this your axe?" the Lord asked. Again, the woodcutter replied, "No." The Lord went down again and came up with an iron axe. "Is this your axe?" the Lord asked. The woodcutter replied, "Yes." The Lord was pleased with the man's honesty and gave him all three axes to keep, and the woodcutter went home happy. Some time later the woodcutter was walking with his wife along the riverbank, and his wife fell into the river. When he cried out, the Lord again appeared and asked him, "Why are you crying?" "Oh Lord, my wife has fallen into the water!" The Lord went down into the water and came up with Jennifer Lopez. "Is this your wife?" the Lord asked. "Yes," cried the woodcutter. The Lord was furious. "You lied! That is an untruth!" The woodcutter replied, "Oh, forgive me, my Lord. It is a misunderstanding. You see, if I had said 'no' to Jennifer Lopez, You would have come up with Catherine Zeta Jones. Then if I said 'no' to her, you would have come up with my wife. Had I then said 'yes,' you would have given me all three. Lord, I am a poor man, and am not able to take care of all three wives, so THAT'S why I said yes to Jennifer Lopez." The moral of this story is: Whenever a man lies, it is for a good and honorable reason, and for the benefit of others. That's our story, and we're sticking to it! - "WE ARE HONORABLE MEN !!!!!!".. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 06:59:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Tue Nov 8 07:05:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: War room at Wal Mart References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkogkv$tat$1@news.spamcop.net... > > I can't wait to see this! Nor can I! This isn't going to help Wal-mart's case either: http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/trade/2005-11-08-textiles-usat_x.htm But China also can claim victory. The pending agreement uses this year's high levels of Chinese exports to the USA as the base for calculating future increases, says Johnson, who was briefed on the deal Monday Low-cost Chinese competition is responsible for the loss of 398,600 American textile jobs since 2001, says Lloyd Wood of the American Manufacturing Trade Action Coalition, an industry group. Industry employment is 38% below the level of five years ago Monday, Wal-Mart spokeswoman Beth Keck said of the likely deal: "It absolutely does make life easier for us." From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 07:40:20 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 07:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: From The New York Times References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > > The hollow dwellers of Appalachia discovered that damage control means > something quite different in Washington: the report's main proposal > was to promise companies a "centralizing and streamlining" of current > paperwork to make it easier, not more arduous, to strip-mine > mountains. That fulfilled a directive of Deputy Interior Secretary > Steven Griles, a former mining industry lobbyist, that was made in > 2001, before he resigned to go back to lobbying. This topic really makes my blood boil.....how come the Sierra Club isn't screaming bloody murder from the tops of their lungs? This is so blantantly a violation of the Clean Water and Air bill that it should be a no-brainer to have this stopped dead in it's tracks! From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 14:06:23 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 09:10:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Lesson for Today References: <1131367135.335656.90230@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dkpfgc$fok$3 @news.spamcop.net: > That's our story, and we're sticking to it! - "WE ARE HONORABLE MEN > !!!!!!".. Yep, that's my story now also! ;-) From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 10:05:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:10:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Maw never told you to not sit on them nasty thangs.... References: <1131188127.373561.202760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: "Technomage Hawke" wrote in message news:dkp4a5$8l7$1@news.spamcop.net... > > if you read that right, it appears to be a joke. I know its not, but its > phrased in such a way as to appear like one.... Well, it didn't start out that way, but after I read it..... > > then again, I don't think Home Depot will be leaving the lid up on this one > either huh? I can't believe they're being so stupid as to completely ignore the guy - now it goes national and everyone knows they are ignoring this guy when they could have just had their insurance take care of it. Bad for business..... From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 10:06:32 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:10:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns970764E4C71DFinnewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > > See, there's the problem... > They _mostly_ eat at the dump. > Do you want to take the chance of being on of those other times? ;-) > That's why we don't go camping with a tent. Black bears I wouldn't be too worried about - Grizzlies, not on your LIFE....... What do you go camping with, a portable cabin? From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 15:09:58 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:10:25 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkqf0m$3ok$1 @news.spamcop.net: > What do you go camping with, a portable cabin? No, just a holiday trailer.... with thin walls. ;-) Better than a tent, but not much better actually. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 10:18:30 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:25:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9708531518EC0innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkqf0m$3ok$1 > @news.spamcop.net: > > > What do you go camping with, a portable cabin? > > No, just a holiday trailer.... with thin walls. ;-)...... ...which a Grizzy can snap like a saltine.......muwawahahahah From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 15:28:33 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:30:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkqfn4$50g$1@news.spamcop.net: > > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns9708531518EC0innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> >> No, just a holiday trailer.... with thin walls. ;-)...... > > ...which a Grizzy can snap like a saltine.......muwawahahahah > > Yabut... We all gotta go sometime. My S.O. REFUSES to camp in a tent because that would be "Too easy" for a bear to get to us. Little does she realize how easy it would be to tear into a trailer's walls. ;-) Oh well. at least it's warm. From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 10:30:11 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:35:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9708563BE8630innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > Yabut... We all gotta go sometime. > My S.O. REFUSES to camp in a tent because that would be "Too easy" for a > bear to get to us. > Little does she realize how easy it would be to tear into a trailer's > walls. ;-) > Oh well. at least it's warm. Never, never show her those videos of bears tearing apart cars and smashing windows to get the food inside..... From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 15:34:37 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 10:35:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkqgd1$5cg$1@news.spamcop.net: > Never, never show her those videos of bears tearing apart cars and > smashing windows to get the food inside..... Her father was camping up North this summer and while they were away from camp, a black bear went thru and tore up the cook tent. Didn't do much more damage, but everyone was glad they were away at the time. (they moved camp to another area the same day.) From maillist at roomity.com Tue Nov 8 09:10:07 2005 From: maillist at roomity.com (shenanigans) Date: Tue Nov 8 12:09:26 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] [OTAnn] Feedback Message-ID: <3392789.2011131469807258.JavaMail.tomcat5@slave1.roomity.com> I was interested in getting feedback from current mail group users. We have mirrored your mail list in a new application that provides a more aggregated and safe environment which utilizes the power of broadband. Roomity.com v 1.5 is a web 2.01 community webapp. Our newest version adds broadcast video and social networking such as favorite authors and an html editor. It?s free to join and any feedback would be appreciated. S. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Broadband interface (RIA) + mail box saftey = SpamCop_Social_Discussion_List.roomity.com *Your* clubs, no sign up to read, ad supported; try broadband internet. ~~1131469807255~~ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 13:04:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:05:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dkqf0m$3ok$1 @news.spamcop.net: > > > What do you go camping with, a portable cabin? > > No, just a holiday trailer.... with thin walls. ;-) > Better than a tent, but not much better actually. Popup trailer/tent kind? Yeah, you're right, those canvas walls won't keep a hungry bear at bay! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 13:04:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:05:22 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "Spamvireslayer" wrote in > news:dkqgd1$5cg$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Never, never show her those videos of bears tearing apart cars and > > smashing windows to get the food inside..... > > Her father was camping up North this summer and while they were away > from camp, a black bear went thru and tore up the cook tent. > Didn't do much more damage, but everyone was glad they were away at > the time. > (they moved camp to another area the same day.) Never heard of using a bear bag, it would seem? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 13:07:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:10:08 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: WTF is this? Spam? shenanigans wrote: > I was interested in getting feedback from current mail group users. > > We have mirrored your mail list in a new application that provides a > more aggregated and safe environment which utilizes the power of > broadband. > > Roomity.com v 1.5 is a web 2.01 community webapp. Our newest version > adds broadcast video and social networking such as favorite authors > and an html editor. > > It?s free to join and any feedback would be appreciated. > > S. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Broadband interface (RIA) + mail box saftey = href="http://SpamCop_Social_Discussion_List.roomity.com">SpamCop_Social_Disc ussion_List.roomity.com > *Your* clubs, no sign up to read, ad supported; try broadband > internet. ~~1131469807255~~ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 18:08:24 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:10:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkqpap$dal$1@news.spamcop.net: > Popup trailer/tent kind? Yeah, you're right, those canvas walls won't > keep a hungry bear at bay! Not pop up type, regular "thin" walled sides. Easy for a bear to go thru. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 18:08:48 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:10:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkqpc4$db4$1@news.spamcop.net: > Never heard of using a bear bag, it would seem? Nah, that's the wussy way. LOL From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Tue Nov 8 18:09:16 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:10:27 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in news:dkqpge$dei$1@news.spamcop.net: > WTF is this? Spam? Yep. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 13:28:17 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 13:30:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? References: Message-ID: JohnL wrote: > "indigo" wrote in > news:dkqpc4$db4$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > Never heard of using a bear bag, it would seem? > > Nah, that's the wussy way. LOL It's also the "stay alive in one piece" way! From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 13:53:59 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:00:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: "JohnL" wrote in message news:Xns9708717BBC128innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > "indigo" wrote in news:dkqpge$dei$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > WTF is this? Spam? > > Yep. Gee, I wonder how that happened. Trollboi must be feeling vengeful. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 14:02:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:05:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns9708717BBC128innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... > > "indigo" wrote in > > news:dkqpge$dei$1@news.spamcop.net: > > > > > WTF is this? Spam? > > > > Yep. > > Gee, I wonder how that happened. Trollboi must be feeling vengeful. Did you look at the headers? Really strange....seemed to come from a spamcop.social mailing list, which doesn't exist AFAIK...... From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 11:05:25 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:10:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: In article , David Dean wrote: > If I was in the woods somewhere, sure. The cans would be more fun as > targets than paper. But at a range, the rules come first, and my desire > to not make a mess follows close behind. Ah, the Los Altos Rod and Gun Club allows the use of plastic and metal containers (no glass) on their "tin can range". Very fun to take plastic bottles filled with water and make them explode. :) You must, of course, pick up your waste afterwards, but inevitably there's some stuff left over. This is collected at intervals by the range staff. It's surprisingly fun to shoot targets that have some reaction other than simply having a hole punched in them. I want to get the "target tree" of multiple round targets that flip from left to right when struck, so I can have some fun with the .22 -- but I wish California "allowed" me to have >10 round magazines, so I could do rapid-fire back-and-forth drills with those flipper targets. A .22 is one of the cheapest and most fun ways to spend an afternoon. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 11:10:02 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:10:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > David Dean wrote: > > >>If I was in the woods somewhere, sure. The cans would be more fun as >>targets than paper. But at a range, the rules come first, and my desire >>to not make a mess follows close behind. > > > Ah, the Los Altos Rod and Gun Club allows the use of plastic and metal > containers (no glass) on their "tin can range". Very fun to take plastic > bottles filled with water and make them explode. :) > > You must, of course, pick up your waste afterwards, but inevitably > there's some stuff left over. This is collected at intervals by the > range staff. > > It's surprisingly fun to shoot targets that have some reaction other > than simply having a hole punched in them. > > I want to get the "target tree" of multiple round targets that flip from > left to right when struck, so I can have some fun with the .22 -- but I > wish California "allowed" me to have >10 round magazines, so I could do > rapid-fire back-and-forth drills with those flipper targets. A .22 is > one of the cheapest and most fun ways to spend an afternoon. :) > Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a range out in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and it's a big one. There were about 30ish people there at any one time. I pulled out my 1861 Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were gathered around me watching me load the thing. The other half came over when they heard the thing go off. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 11:22:49 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:25:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a > range out in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and > it's a big one. There were about 30ish people there at any one time. > I pulled out my 1861 Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were > gathered around me watching me load the thing. The other half came > over when they heard the thing go off. :) I get that a lot with my M1 Garand. A lot of the folks at the range here tend to be Old Curmudgeonly Bastards, a few hunters, etc. Many are competition shooters, and have riced-out .22 pistols and whatnot. It's rare to find a 23 year old with an appreciation of classic rifles, particularly the M1. After a "ping!", it's not uncommon for a few of the folks to come around and ask questions ("Is that Springfield or H&R? Did you refinish the wood? The metal looks great! How's it shoot?"), which is kinda neat. Most of the younger folks are at the more expensive, indoor pistol range around here. I guess handguns are the new "in" thing...espescially because California doesn't allow us to have Evil Black Rifles like ARs and AKs here, so people just go for pistols. Personally, I rather like the feel of classic rifles. With my C&R, I just bought two Mosin-Nagants (a 1927 hex receiver and a 1939 round receiver one) for $70 each + shipping. They shoot remarkably well, and I'm going to sell one of them to a friend of mine. I love having a C&R license and getting stuff through the mail...even better that I don't need to involve the California DOJ or the ATF/FBI for background checks, waiting periods, and so forth. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 14:40:28 2005 From: nobody at devnulll.spamcop.net (Spamvireslayer) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:45:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dkqsog$fi3$1@news.spamcop.net... > > Did you look at the headers? Really strange....seemed to come from a > spamcop.social mailing list, which doesn't exist AFAIK...... And how did "it" find us, then? Just us, not the other groups, just .social, where he's not wanted. Want to take a guess? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 11:43:06 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:45:21 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a >>range out in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and >>it's a big one. There were about 30ish people there at any one time. >>I pulled out my 1861 Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were >>gathered around me watching me load the thing. The other half came >>over when they heard the thing go off. :) > > > I get that a lot with my M1 Garand. A lot of the folks at the range here > tend to be Old Curmudgeonly Bastards, a few hunters, etc. Many are > competition shooters, and have riced-out .22 pistols and whatnot. > > It's rare to find a 23 year old with an appreciation of classic rifles, > particularly the M1. After a "ping!", it's not uncommon for a few of the > folks to come around and ask questions ("Is that Springfield or H&R? Did > you refinish the wood? The metal looks great! How's it shoot?"), which > is kinda neat. > > Most of the younger folks are at the more expensive, indoor pistol range > around here. I guess handguns are the new "in" thing...espescially > because California doesn't allow us to have Evil Black Rifles like ARs > and AKs here, so people just go for pistols. Personally, I rather like > the feel of classic rifles. > > With my C&R, I just bought two Mosin-Nagants (a 1927 hex receiver and a > 1939 round receiver one) for $70 each + shipping. They shoot remarkably > well, and I'm going to sell one of them to a friend of mine. I love > having a C&R license and getting stuff through the mail...even better > that I don't need to involve the California DOJ or the ATF/FBI for > background checks, waiting periods, and so forth. :) > Yeah I'm a rifle person, myself. After a shotgun, the next weapon I'll be getting will probably be a 1903 Springfield. I want to work on my long-distance target practice. :) From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 11:47:20 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:50:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > Yeah I'm a rifle person, myself. After a shotgun, the next weapon I'll be > getting will probably be a 1903 Springfield. I want to work on my > long-distance target practice. :) And a Springfield is a fine choice for that, though I'd also strongly recommend the M1 Garand -- you can get them from the CMP for not that much money, they're rugged, reliable, and quite accurate. And they make cool "ping" noises. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 11:49:16 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 14:50:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Pete Stephenson wrote: > In article , > Borgholio wrote: > > >>Yeah I'm a rifle person, myself. After a shotgun, the next weapon I'll be >>getting will probably be a 1903 Springfield. I want to work on my >>long-distance target practice. :) > > > And a Springfield is a fine choice for that, though I'd also strongly > recommend the M1 Garand -- you can get them from the CMP for not that > much money, they're rugged, reliable, and quite accurate. And they make > cool "ping" noises. :) > How much does an M1 usually go for? I'd love to get my hands on one! From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 15:06:36 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:10:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a > range out in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and > it's a big one. There were about 30ish people there at any one time. > I pulled out my 1861 Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were > gathered around me watching me load the thing. The other half came > over when they heard the thing go off. :) That 1861 Colt is a black powder muzzle loader? They had revolvers with jacketed ammunition by then (long before then IIRC). Standard Army issue for the good guy's officers in the civil war. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 21:14:44 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Gas prices? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "JohnL" wrote in message > news:Xns9708531518EC0innewsgrouponly@216.154.195.61... >> "Spamvireslayer" wrote in news:dkqf0m$3ok$1 >> @news.spamcop.net: >> >>> What do you go camping with, a portable cabin? >> No, just a holiday trailer.... with thin walls. ;-)...... > > ...which a Grizzy can snap like a saltine.......muwawahahahah Crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 15:22:13 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:25:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Oh joy! Message-ID: Porn Producers Ramp Up Video iPod Content Tuesday, November 08, 2005 Company to Retool Porn for Video iPod SAN FRANCISCO - Purveyors of porn and entrepreneurs who spied a niche when Apple Computer Inc. unveiled its video-playing iPod are proving that sex even sells in tiny packages - especially when it is portable. SuicideGirls.com (search), an online social network of amateur pinup girls, said it logged 500,000 downloads of the sexy "featurettes" - three- to five-minute video clips - in the first 24 hours targeting the new iPod-toting crowd. It's a no-brainer: pornography to go. The naughtiness is already finding its way into video handhelds through business models tried-and-true - along with some new ones - as the adult entertainment industry (search) works to untether video content. Soon enough, skin flicks whose viewing has been largely restricted to the privacy of homes and theaters could be on view in the open public of parks and mass transit, for all ages to see. Porn is no doubt a big business on the Web. Two in five Internet users visited an adult site in August, according to tracking by comScore Media Metrix (search). The company said 3 percent of all Web traffic and 2 percent of all surfing time involved an adult site. ****2 in 5 users went to adults sites? I don't believe it. Maybe 2 in 5 dumb enough to have comScore spyware or tracking software hidden on their PCs, that I'd believe**** From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 12:23:34 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:25:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a >>range out in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and >>it's a big one. There were about 30ish people there at any one time. >>I pulled out my 1861 Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were >>gathered around me watching me load the thing. The other half came >>over when they heard the thing go off. :) > > > That 1861 Colt is a black powder muzzle loader? They had revolvers with > jacketed ammunition by then (long before then IIRC). Standard Army issue for > the good guy's officers in the civil war. > > Yep. :) Jacketed ammo DID exist, but it wasn't all that common. The 1861 Colt was one of the last muzzle-loading revolvers. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 21:31:32 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:35:01 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spamvireslayer wrote: > "indigo" wrote in message news:dkqsog$fi3$1@news.spamcop.net... >> Did you look at the headers? Really strange....seemed to come from a >> spamcop.social mailing list, which doesn't exist AFAIK...... > > And how did "it" find us, then? Just us, not the other groups, just .social, where > he's not wanted. Want to take a guess? It was also sent to the sneakemail address I use here, presumably scraped, so it was more than just the newsgroup. And the mailing list does exist. It is the primary way I read the newsgroup since work blocks nntp. From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Nov 8 12:35:51 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:40:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Did you look at the headers? Really strange....seemed to come from a > spamcop.social mailing list, which doesn't exist AFAIK...... Au contraire, Pierre. maillist@roomity.com is subscribed to the spamcop.social mailing list http://news.spamcop.net/mailman/listinfo/mailman Others who are having problems with this 'condition' can be seen here http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=2211&tstart=0 spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris list users and here http://article.gmane.org/gmane.lisp.common-lisp-net.devel/241 Re: roomity.com - I have noticed that most mailing lists I take care of have been subscribed by "maillist roomity.com". And others. If you want to see roomity's site, enable your browser script functions and use http://roomity.com/home.jsp I would think that whoever is in control of the SC mailman mailing list might want to unsub/block maillist roomity. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 15:38:53 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:40:09 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > > > > Yep. :) Jacketed ammo DID exist, but it wasn't all that common. > The 1861 Colt was one of the last muzzle-loading revolvers. Wait a sec -- it's a muzzle loader AND a revolver? I'm not sure I've ever heard of such a gun. How do you keep the powder from falling out the back of the chambers? Wadding? And how do you ignite each round? Primer caps? From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 15:43:09 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 15:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > indigo wrote: > > > Did you look at the headers? Really strange....seemed to come from a > > spamcop.social mailing list, which doesn't exist AFAIK...... > > Au contraire, Pierre. > > maillist@roomity.com is subscribed to the spamcop.social mailing list > http://news.spamcop.net/mailman/listinfo/mailman Huh. Never knew that. Who'd want to get .social via a mailing list, especially when certain, eh, "events" happen that produce prodigious amounts of posts in here? Geeze, the volume and size of the mail must be enormous at times! Oh, that's right, Mr. Meanie just said he gets the group that way. Would put me off this group entirely if I had to participate that way! > > Others who are having problems with this 'condition' can be seen here > http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=2211&tstart=0 > spammers roomity.com hitting opensolaris list users > So either a spammer or a certain loon subsribed us to roomity? > > I would think that whoever is in control of the SC mailman mailing > list might want to unsub/block maillist roomity. No idea who runs it. JT? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 12:56:06 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 16:00:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > > > >>Yep. :) Jacketed ammo DID exist, but it wasn't all that common. >>The 1861 Colt was one of the last muzzle-loading revolvers. > > > Wait a sec -- it's a muzzle loader AND a revolver? I'm not sure I've ever > heard of such a gun. How do you keep the powder from falling out the back of > the chambers? Wadding? And how do you ignite each round? Primer caps? > > I have pics on my website: http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun1.jpg http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun2.jpg http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun3.jpg http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun4.jpg Revolvers have been muzzle loaders for awhile...I know of guns from the 1840's and 50's that are muzzle loading revolvers. As for loading it, the powder grains are too large to fit through the nipple hole on the back of the chamber, which is where you put a copper primer cap. You can use a wad between the ball and the powder if you like...but it's not critical. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 16:13:57 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 16:15:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > I have pics on my website: > Weird, they won't load in IE but Firefox brought them right up? > > http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun1.jpg > http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun2.jpg > http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun3.jpg > http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun4.jpg > > Revolvers have been muzzle loaders for awhile...I know of guns from > the 1840's and 50's that are muzzle loading revolvers. As for > loading it, the powder grains are too large to fit through the nipple > hole on the back of the chamber, which is where you put a copper > primer cap. You can use a wad between the ball and the powder if you > like...but it's not critical. Is that an original or a replica? I know you can buy replicas for real cheap, like $100 or so. The cost of an original must be staggering.... From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 13:16:51 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 16:20:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > > >>I have pics on my website: >> > > > Weird, they won't load in IE but Firefox brought them right up? > > >>http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun1.jpg >>http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun2.jpg >>http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun3.jpg >>http://www.storymindmedia.com/borgholio/images/gun4.jpg >> >>Revolvers have been muzzle loaders for awhile...I know of guns from >>the 1840's and 50's that are muzzle loading revolvers. As for >>loading it, the powder grains are too large to fit through the nipple >>hole on the back of the chamber, which is where you put a copper >>primer cap. You can use a wad between the ball and the powder if you >>like...but it's not critical. > > > Is that an original or a replica? I know you can buy replicas for real > cheap, like $100 or so. The cost of an original must be staggering.... > > Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals run into the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 22:45:49 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 16:50:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Huh. Never knew that. Who'd want to get .social via a mailing list, > especially when certain, eh, "events" happen that produce prodigious amounts > of posts in here? Geeze, the volume and size of the mail must be enormous at > times! Oh, that's right, Mr. Meanie just said he gets the group that way. > Would put me off this group entirely if I had to participate that way! It is about 8000 times easier to filter email than it is to filter newsgroup stuff. It was simple to filter all the stupid stuff directly to the trash. Occasionally if I had to write a new rule, I could also apply the rule retroactively to my folder and zip, the stupid ones that I missed were also gone then. And the volume and size of the mail is no different than through the newsgroup. And I can delete all the ones I've read and don't need anymore and just keep the ones that I might possibly reply to or mark as unread the ones I wanted to respond to. Much easier, especially when I'm traveling, kind of like now. From mike.easter at gmail.com Tue Nov 8 13:56:29 2005 From: mike.easter at gmail.com (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:11:00 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > indigo wrote: >> Mr. Meanie just said he >> gets the group that way. > Much easier, especially > when I'm traveling, kind of like now. There's also gmane. See headers. -- Mike Easter From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 17:12:02 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:15:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals run > into the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) Several years ago when I was thinking about buying a handgun (and the nice 9mm's I was looking at were around $600 used) I saw a catalog selling replica six-shooters (real guns) for something like $90. I was thinking "hey, why the hell not own a cheap Colt?" From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 17:13:30 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:15:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: > > It is about 8000 times easier to filter email than it is to filter > newsgroup stuff. It was simple to filter all the stupid stuff > directly to the trash. Occasionally if I had to write a new rule, I > could also apply the rule retroactively to my folder and zip, the > stupid ones that I missed were also gone then. I can see your point about filtering being easier, but isn't it hard to follow threads via email? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 14:15:56 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:20:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals run >>into the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) > > > Several years ago when I was thinking about buying a handgun (and the nice > 9mm's I was looking at were around $600 used) I saw a catalog selling > replica six-shooters (real guns) for something like $90. I was thinking > "hey, why the hell not own a cheap Colt?" > > Well...a Colt Peacemaker WAS a six-shooter. From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 17:25:51 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > indigo wrote: > > Borgholio wrote: > > > >>Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals > >>run into the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) > > > > > > Several years ago when I was thinking about buying a handgun (and > > the nice 9mm's I was looking at were around $600 used) I saw a > > catalog selling replica six-shooters (real guns) for something like > > $90. I was thinking "hey, why the hell not own a cheap Colt?" > > > > > > Well...a Colt Peacemaker WAS a six-shooter. That's the model I was thinking about buying, .32 cal I think? I forget. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 23:30:52 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> It is about 8000 times easier to filter email than it is to filter >> newsgroup stuff. It was simple to filter all the stupid stuff >> directly to the trash. Occasionally if I had to write a new rule, I >> could also apply the rule retroactively to my folder and zip, the >> stupid ones that I missed were also gone then. > > I can see your point about filtering being easier, but isn't it hard to > follow threads via email? Threads? A thread doesn't really ever last more than a few responses. I mean whatever subject it is, you don't need to follow it for very long because it will change in a few anyways. Eventually they all turn into deep throating a corn dog or something like that. Well, unless it is a super long one about gun control and then I usually just delete all those. And generally people quote well enough so that I can follow the progression even if I haven't really read it all in order. And if they don't quote very well, then it probably doesn't really matter all that much, I won't spend much time worrying about what I might have missed there. From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 14:34:31 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:35:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>indigo wrote: >> >>>Borgholio wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals >>>>run into the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) >>> >>> >>>Several years ago when I was thinking about buying a handgun (and >>>the nice 9mm's I was looking at were around $600 used) I saw a >>>catalog selling replica six-shooters (real guns) for something like >>>$90. I was thinking "hey, why the hell not own a cheap Colt?" >>> >>> >> >>Well...a Colt Peacemaker WAS a six-shooter. > > > That's the model I was thinking about buying, .32 cal I think? I forget. > > No I think it was a .44. Peacemaker had a lot of stopping power. From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 23:34:37 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:35:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: >> indigo wrote: > >>> Mr. Meanie just said he >>> gets the group that way. > >> Much easier, especially >> when I'm traveling, kind of like now. > > There's also gmane. See headers. But it is a web based interface, isn't it? I don't want to bother to keep track of what I've read and haven't read in a web forum. From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Nov 8 14:41:20 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:45:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Mike Easter wrote: > There's also gmane. See headers. That item news:mailman.118.1131487859.169.spamcop-social@news.spamcop.net gets into news.spamcop.net from news.gmane.org which has the ng gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.social whose posts go to the mailman which go to the newsserver. The beauty of gmane is that it is webbased, mailing list based, rss based, nntp based, and can configure to archive forever and to encrypt the email address. Whoever configured the spamcop one's didn't set the addresses to autoencrypt, but the archives go back to 2001. The encrypting is described here http://gmane.org/tmda.php , it is a mild encryption integrated with TMDA - which is a challenge process. I forgot that the spamcop gmane groups weren't 'autoencryted' or obfuscated, so a person would have to put in their own encrypting header to 'work it'. I think I'll try that next. The web interface can be read in mulitple ways. Here's my earlier post: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.social/84801 and http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamcop.social/84801?set_lines=100000 To me the gmane web gizmo is tricky - but I don't like web gizmos. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 17:41:35 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:45:12 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Borgholio wrote: > > > > That's the model I was thinking about buying, .32 cal I think? I > > forget. > > > > > > No I think it was a .44. Peacemaker had a lot of stopping power. Colt made the Peacemaker in a lot of calibers -- .45 was the military version, .32 was the civilian version, plus some .38's too (don't argue, I just gargled it ;-) From nobody at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 17:42:39 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (indigo) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:45:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: Mr K. Mean wrote: Well, > unless it is a super long one about gun control and then I usually > just delete all > those. Yeah, but it's a lot harder to do that with email than simply "mark thread as read", ain't it? From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 14:43:23 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:45:23 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Borgholio wrote: > >>>That's the model I was thinking about buying, .32 cal I think? I >>>forget. >>> >>> >> >>No I think it was a .44. Peacemaker had a lot of stopping power. > > > Colt made the Peacemaker in a lot of calibers -- .45 was the military > version, .32 was the civilian version, plus some .38's too (don't argue, I > just gargled it ;-) > > Real men used .44 or higher. :) From 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 8 23:54:37 2005 From: 35zyuhr02 at sneakemail.com (Mr K. Mean) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:55:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: indigo wrote: > Mr K. Mean wrote: > Well, >> unless it is a super long one about gun control and then I usually >> just delete all >> those. > > Yeah, but it's a lot harder to do that with email than simply "mark thread > as read", ain't it? They still thread and subthread normally by the message references. At least they do in Thunderbird. Instead of sorting by date, you sort them by thread and then just select the whole subthread and delete. Sorry to say that once a thread starts going down the pun path, they usually suffer the same fate too. From mike.easter at gmail.com Tue Nov 8 14:52:18 2005 From: mike.easter at gmail.com (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 8 17:57:18 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: X-Archive: encrypt I'm testing to see if I can put an encrypt line in the first line of the body since I can't tinker with headerlines in OE. Mr K. Mean wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> There's also gmane. See headers. > > But it is a web based interface, isn't it? I don't want to bother to > keep track of what I've read and haven't read in a web forum. All things considered, some of which I don't know about how you 'do it', the regular mailing list might be best. I don't like web gizmos or mailing lists instead of news. So I like gmane when it changes a mailing list into an nntp newsgroup for me, which I do with a local linux UG mailing list which is also a web gizmo. The idea of changing a newsgroup into a mailing list is the exact opposite of the direction I'm usually trying to go. -- Mike Easter From MikeE at ster.invalid Tue Nov 8 15:45:11 2005 From: MikeE at ster.invalid (Mike Easter) Date: Tue Nov 8 18:50:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: [OTAnn] Feedback References: Message-ID: David Dean wrote: > "Mike Easter" >> I'm testing to see if I can put an encrypt line in the first line of >> the body since I can't tinker with headerlines in OE. Mine didn't work. Sometimes you can get away with that if the newsserver or other 'handling' mechanism is prepared for a 'body shot'. Naturally it isn't in the headers since there's an empty line between the headers and the first line of the body. > It /should/ be in the real headers of this message... Yes. You're using a real newsreader. MT-NewsWatcher 3.1 [you're 3.4] not only passed, but scored 96% on GNKSA 2. OE6 failed with its 67% score http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Ejs/gnksa/gnksa-evaluations.html GNKSA Evaluations which it has always done, since GNKSA 1 and OE4. -- Mike Easter kibitzer, not SC admin From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 8 18:56:50 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > As somebody just said, "I don't think that deficit spending is valid > > except in the most exigent circumstances like total war [i.e. > > WWII-type things] and other similar events." With such a restriction, > > you can't deal with exigent circumstances. > > Why not? There's plenty of policies in the government that restrict > government behavior except during certain circumstances. > > Take, for example, habeas corpus -- the government can suspend habeas > corpus in certain, limited circumstances. Why not have the same > requirement for deficit spending? 1) How do you define the circumstances under which deficit spending will be allowed? If for example you allow it in wartime, does it have to be a declared war, or does Iraq count? Does 9/11 count? Does the "war" on terrorism count? If it does, when does the authority to run a deficit end? How do you prevent a "wag the dog" scenario in which a president launches an attack on another country solely in order to increase spending for pet projects or special interests? 2) How do you allow for exigencies the nature of which can't be foreseen? Would a balanced-budget amendment written last year have taken into account the need to rebuild the Gulf Coast after Katrina? By the time you define the certain circumstances and sew up the loopholes, the amendment would be longer than the Constitution itself. The federal Constitution is supposed to be a statement of general principles. It's not supposed to take up minutiae like the state constitutions. Besides, it already provides a remedy for the problem. If you're opposed to deficit spending, don't vote for politicians who do it. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 8 19:14:44 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:15:06 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: why not? was Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > David Dean wrote: > > > "indigo" wrote: > > > > > I wish that article described what really made the line item veto > > > "unconstitutional"....... > > > > Info about the actual case: > > > > > > That's BS! Because the Constitution does not expressly permit it, it's > therefore invalid? BS! How many other programs and actions the government > takes are not EXPRESSLY permitted? Dozens! You should know better than to rely on Wikipedia on anything, let alone constitutional law. The court ruled that the line item veto violated the Presentment Clause (Article I, Section 7). That clause spells out the procedure for enacting legislation and for the veto. Basically, the Constitution gives the president only three choices on a bill--sign it, decline to sign it (in which case it either becomes law or is vetoed depending on whether Congress is in session), or veto it. It does _not_ give him the authority to pick and choose the provisions he likes. The law setting up a line item veto was attmepting to do something that could only be done by constitutional amendment. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 19:20:29 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:25:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | | Black powder is even cheaper and even more fun. :) I went to a range out | in Glendora (about 35 - 40 minutes drive from here) and it's a big one. | There were about 30ish people there at any one time. I pulled out my 1861 | Colt .44 and suddenly half of those people were gathered around me watching | me load the thing. The other half came over when they heard the thing go | off. :) I've just made friends with a bunch of Civil War re enactors. Any idea were I can get information on the making of black power as it was done in 1863? both the chemistry, materials and equipment? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 8 19:22:05 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:25:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: In article , "Bcs1" wrote: > you mean when BC said "We have no actionable reason to arrest him" Your search - "We have no actionable reason to arrest him" - did not match any documents. WTF are you talking about? -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 19:26:26 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: "Borgholio" | >> | >>Revolvers have been muzzle loaders for awhile...I know of guns from | >>the 1840's and 50's that are muzzle loading revolvers. As for | >>loading it, the powder grains are too large to fit through the nipple | >>hole on the back of the chamber, which is where you put a copper | >>primer cap. You can use a wad between the ball and the powder if you | >>like...but it's not critical. | > | > | > Is that an original or a replica? I know you can buy replicas for real | > cheap, like $100 or so. The cost of an original must be staggering.... | > | > | | Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals run into | the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) Why not shoot one? FWIW I had one at our place on the Gulf Coast even if we could find it it's likely all rust by now. From devnull at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 19:27:52 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:30:13 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: "David Dean" | | > When you drink enough to see double that long past time you should stop | > shooting. | | I think he meant the empty cans. ;) And folk here are in the habit of buying EMPTY beer cans? From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Tue Nov 8 19:28:54 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:30:19 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Oh joy! References: Message-ID: In article , "indigo" wrote: > Two in five Internet users visited an adult site in August, according to > tracking by comScore Media Metrix (search). The company said 3 percent of > all Web traffic and 2 percent of all surfing time involved an adult site. > > ****2 in 5 users went to adults sites? I don't believe it. Maybe 2 in 5 dumb > enough to have comScore spyware or tracking software hidden on their PCs, > that I'd believe**** Not everybody has to worry about spyware. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com Tue Nov 8 18:32:25 2005 From: post.please.this.email.is.not.valid at example.com (DougW) Date: Tue Nov 8 19:35:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: Frog Prince did pass the time by typing: > "David Dean" >> >>> When you drink enough to see double that long past time you should stop >>> shooting. >> >> I think he meant the empty cans. ;) > > And folk here are in the habit of buying EMPTY beer cans? I used to use Shafer beer as a target. Cheaper than skeet and helps prevent some poor fool from actually drinking the stuff. Ever seen a PVC, compressed air powered, beercan launher? :) -- DougW From borgholio at storymind.com Tue Nov 8 18:55:15 2005 From: borgholio at storymind.com (Borgholio) Date: Tue Nov 8 22:00:14 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Frog Prince wrote: > "Borgholio" > | >> > | >>Revolvers have been muzzle loaders for awhile...I know of guns from > | >>the 1840's and 50's that are muzzle loading revolvers. As for > | >>loading it, the powder grains are too large to fit through the nipple > | >>hole on the back of the chamber, which is where you put a copper > | >>primer cap. You can use a wad between the ball and the powder if you > | >>like...but it's not critical. > | > > | > > | > Is that an original or a replica? I know you can buy replicas for real > | > cheap, like $100 or so. The cost of an original must be staggering.... > | > > | > > | > | Oh definitely a replica. It cost about $150, I think. Originals run into > | the thousands and I wouldn't dare shoot one. :) > > Why not shoot one? FWIW I had one at our place on the Gulf Coast even if we > could find it it's likely all rust by now. > > Why not? Too valuable to risk damage. :) From skiwi at spamcop.net Tue Nov 8 19:02:23 2005 From: skiwi at spamcop.net (Skiwi) Date: Tue Nov 8 22:05:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Sick of family and "friends" sending you email about cancer kids, etc Message-ID: http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/pub/swf/may02-smilepop-soapbox4.swf NOT spam related, just (reasonably) funny... From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 21:07:00 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 9 00:10:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "D.F. Manno" wrote: > 1) How do you define the circumstances under which deficit spending > will be allowed? If for example you allow it in wartime, does it have > to be a declared war, or does Iraq count? Does 9/11 count? Does the > "war" on terrorism count? If it does, when does the authority to run > a deficit end? How do you prevent a "wag the dog" scenario in which a > president launches an attack on another country solely in order to > increase spending for pet projects or special interests? An excellent question, and one which I do not have the answer to. Rather, I would leave this to people more skilled with legal terms and so forth than I. > 2) How do you allow for exigencies the nature of which can't be > foreseen? Would a balanced-budget amendment written last year have > taken into account the need to rebuild the Gulf Coast after Katrina? I don't see the Katrina thing as necessary, as it's not the Federal Government's job to rebuild after disasters -- it's not a power expressly given to it by the Constitution. If anything, it's a state matter. The Constitution and Bill of Rights were written by intelligent people who constructed a viable framework for a stable, long-lasting government run by the people. They did not attempt to cover /all/ possible situations. > By the time you define the certain circumstances and sew up the > loopholes, the amendment would be longer than the Constitution > itself. Agreed. > The federal Constitution is supposed to be a statement of general > principles. It's not supposed to take up minutiae like the state > constitutions. Besides, it already provides a remedy for the problem. > If you're opposed to deficit spending, don't vote for politicians who > do it. Agreed. However, what happens if the only viable candidates are those who run on the "I'll spend more money on [x]" platform? What if there's no viable alternative? Both the Democrats and Republicans want to spend more money each year, though the source of the money and what it is to be spent on differs somewhat. The possibility of a third party winning a major election is quite small indeed. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 21:16:32 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 9 00:20:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: More unrecovery by female... References: Message-ID: In article , Borgholio wrote: > How much does an M1 usually go for? I'd love to get my hands on one! http://www.odcmp.com/ has all the information you'd ever need. http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/m1garand.htm shows the following information: * Service Grade (Springfield Armory): $500 (given to the Greek army, later returned...no import marks. I have one of these, and am extremely pleased. Some, however, have serious wood damage -- the Greeks frequently carved the wood up a bit.) * Correct Grade (SA and Harrington & Richardson): $850 (SA), $900 (H&R). Issued to Greek army, returned later. Less wear than the Service Grade ones...but the Service Grade ones are in pretty darned good condition, so I wouldn't bother spending this much. * Collector Grade (SA and H&R): $1400. Also Greek issue ones, but in "excellent" condition with little or no handling marks. * Field Grade (SA): $395. Some more wear than the Service Grade one. You'd be better off buying a Field or Rack grade one, and a new barrel...it'll be cheaper than the Service Grade one and just as good, if not better. These are more than adequate for most shooters with the barrel they come with, and should be good for a few thousand rounds at least. * Rack Grade (SA): $350. More barrel wear than the Field Grade ones. May not be good for more than a few thousand rounds without needing a new barrel. If you're so inclined, you can also buy just the receivers themselves and build your own M1. That'll likely be a hassle, and end up being more expensive. ..... I've got a greek-issue Springfield Service Grade one, and have been exceedingly pleased with it. I'd probably buy either a Field or Rack Grade one, if I were to buy another, and maybe have an extra barrel or two on hand. I've even got some en-bloc clips that I'd be willing to mail you, if you want. :) -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com Wed Nov 9 01:28:38 2005 From: dfm2a3l0t2 at spymac.com (D.F. Manno) Date: Wed Nov 9 01:30:03 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , Pete Stephenson wrote: > "D.F. Manno" wrote: > > > 2) How do you allow for exigencies the nature of which can't be > > foreseen? Would a balanced-budget amendment written last year have > > taken into account the need to rebuild the Gulf Coast after Katrina? > > I don't see the Katrina thing as necessary, as it's not the Federal > Government's job to rebuild after disasters -- it's not a power > expressly given to it by the Constitution. If anything, it's a state > matter. For one thing, I reject strict constructionism. The Constitution was written in the 18th century. The Framers could not have foreseen the complexity of life in the 21st century. Even so-called strict constructionists don't always believe in strict construction, if a broad interpretation suits their ends better. For another, by your rationale, the Shrub was right in not responding to Katrina, since the Constitution does not expressly give the federal government a role in responding to disaster. Can I assume that you were cheering him on as he did nothing? And if the disaster wreaks such damage that it's beyond the capacity of the state to rebuild, by your reasoning the area should just be left a wasteland, and to hell with the impact on millions of people and the national economy. -- D.F. Manno | dfm2a3l0t2@spymac.com I'm a thief in the house of love And I can't be trusted. -Bruce Springsteen From devnull at spamcop.net Wed Nov 9 01:52:07 2005 From: devnull at spamcop.net (Frog Prince) Date: Wed Nov 9 01:55:02 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Sad news to report. Message-ID: My oldest daughter, who was both mentally and physically disabled, has had medical problems since birth. Her health has been in steady decline in part due to her disability and complicated by the dislocation due to Katrina. We received word this afternoon that she has died suddenly. As it was she was at the clinic for routine care and there was a physician with her when she died. He reports that there was nothing anyone could have done and I understand he tried mightily. The charge nurse, who was working with the doctor told my wife that she died peacefully and without distress. We all have legal documents for organ donation in our medical files. Unfortunately her records were lost in New Orleans and by the time the information was delivered much of what might have helped others were unusable. We've expected this for years but still it's unsettling. We are comforted in that she was one of God's Special Angles whom He has called home. It is times like these when one values all friendships and the support of a strong church family. Plans are unsettled but we expect to be leaving for New Orleans by Thursday. From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 23:51:38 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 9 02:55:10 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Classic Bush References: Message-ID: In article , "D.F. Manno" wrote: > For one thing, I reject strict constructionism. The Constitution was > written in the 18th century. The Framers could not have foreseen the > complexity of life in the 21st century. Even so-called strict > constructionists don't always believe in strict construction, if a > broad interpretation suits their ends better. *shrugs* The Constitution is what it is. If We, The People wish for the Constitution to be changed, there is a process for amending it, as has been done over time. The bar for amending the Constitution is designed to be quite high, so as to prevent it from being changed on a whim. One cannot simply ignore it, or think it means something that it does not, simply because it's convenient to do so. > For another, by your rationale, the Shrub was right in not responding > to Katrina, since the Constitution does not expressly give the > federal government a role in responding to disaster. Can I assume > that you were cheering him on as he did nothing? That is a loaded question. I did not "cheer him on" as he did nothing. Frankly, I could care less what Bush does. The real issues take place in Congress, which is often ignored by the public. I did, however, take offense, as a taxpayer, that the Federal Government chose to spend my money (and indeed borrow more money that it does not have) in a manner that I consider wasteful, unnecessary, and exceeding of its mandate. > And if the disaster wreaks such damage that it's beyond the capacity > of the state to rebuild, by your reasoning the area should just be > left a wasteland, and to hell with the impact on millions of people > and the national economy. "Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part." One could argue that it may be the responsibility of the government to help out in humanitarian efforts (evacuation, relocation to unaffected areas, etc.), but I fail to see how it is the responsibility of the government to rebuild cities (which were, I might point out, built almost entirely out of private funds), oil facilities (again, built mostly by private funds), factories, shipping terminals, and so forth. The government is not a Universal Insurance Program for all citizens, nor are they given a blank check to take actions and spend money simply because it might benefit people, or it's a "good idea". If I'm the victim of some sort of disaster, I'd consider any aid to be a hugely generous gift for which I'd be highly appreciative. I don't, however, /expect/ any aid, nor do I feel entitled to it. I've taken some prudent measures (a few weeks worth of food, water, sanitation supplies, means of defense and communication, transportation, and electrical generation...as well as a few different plans for emergencies) to be fairly self-sufficient in the aftermath of an emergency. The only thing I can count on in an emergency is myself and my preparations, and certainly cannot count on any third-party to render aid. Those who are unwilling[1] to make even basic preparations for a disaster, particularly when in a disaster-prone area, choose to take a risk. It's their responsibility if a disaster strikes and they are unprepared. It most certainly is not the responsibility of the government to come in, give them money, rebuild their homes and businesses, etc. Again, this is all my personal opinion. You may disagree, and it's quite likely you do. Such diversity of opinion leads to interesting, informative discussions which I greatly enjoy. [1] Basic preparations can be made over time, minimizing the one-time cost of gathering supplies like non-perishable food, water, etc. Thus, I consider very few[2] people to actually be "unable" to prepare for at least 3-5 days of self-sufficiency. [2] Those without the ability to care for themselves for medical, mental health, or other reasons (i.e. a quadriplegic, prisoners, medical patients at a hospital or other facility, etc.) would be an example of those I would consider "unable" to make sufficient preparations. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From pete+usenet at heypete.com Tue Nov 8 23:55:39 2005 From: pete+usenet at heypete.com (Pete Stephenson) Date: Wed Nov 9 03:00:04 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sad news to report. References: Message-ID: In article , "Frog Prince" wrote: > We received word this afternoon that she has died suddenly. A thousand condolences for you and your family. I did not know your daughter, but she will be in my thoughts tonight. May you and your family grieve as necessary, and, when ready, find comfort, consolation, and solace in your memories of her and in the company of family and friends. -- Pete Stephenson HeyPete.com From bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com Wed Nov 9 01:27:38 2005 From: bait-423c86b2-42ff9001 at good.julianhaight.com (Chris F. Willoughby) Date: Wed Nov 9 04:30:15 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sad news to report. References: Message-ID: I'm sorry Froggy.. That's a bit of rough news to digest I think. I hope everything is well with the rest of your family. Chris "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dks6b8$8lm$1@news.spamcop.net... > My oldest daughter, who was both mentally and physically disabled, has had > medical problems since birth. Her health has been in steady decline in part > due to her disability and complicated by the dislocation due to Katrina. > > We received word this afternoon that she has died suddenly. As it was she > was at the clinic for routine care and there was a physician with her when > she died. He reports that there was nothing anyone could have done and I > understand he tried mightily. The charge nurse, who was working with the > doctor told my wife that she died peacefully and without distress. > > We all have legal documents for organ donation in our medical files. > Unfortunately her records were lost in New Orleans and by the time the > information was delivered much of what might have helped others were > unusable. > > We've expected this for years but still it's unsettling. > > We are comforted in that she was one of God's Special Angles whom He has > called home. > > It is times like these when one values all friendships and the support of a > strong church family. > > Plans are unsettled but we expect to be leaving for New Orleans by Thursday. > > > > > From nobody at spamcop.net Wed Nov 9 07:14:00 2005 From: nobody at spamcop.net (Heidi) Date: Wed Nov 9 07:20:17 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sad news to report. References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in message news:dks6b8$8lm$1@news.spamcop.net... > My oldest daughter, who was both mentally and physically disabled, has had > medical problems since birth. Her health has been in steady decline in part > due to her disability and complicated by the dislocation due to Katrina. > > We received word this afternoon that she has died suddenly. As it was she > was at the clinic for routine care and there was a physician with her when > she died. He reports that there was nothing anyone could have done and I > understand he tried mightily. The charge nurse, who was working with the > doctor told my wife that she died peacefully and without distress. Sorry to hear that, FP. From bcs1 at spamcop.net Wed Nov 9 07:59:43 2005 From: bcs1 at spamcop.net (Bcs1) Date: Wed Nov 9 07:55:05 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Boy, I hope I won't be disappointed... References: Message-ID: "indigo" wrote in message news:dknm61$ebv$1@news.spamcop.net... > > > Bcs1 wrote: >> no grandkids for me..... gotta HAVE kids first, and there's NO >> chance of that happening any more....... > > What, you got snipped or something? > > yeah LOL Bill From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 9 13:54:48 2005 From: johnl at in.newsgroup.only (JohnL) Date: Wed Nov 9 08:55:11 2005 Subject: [SpamCop-Social] Re: Sad news to report. References: Message-ID: "Frog Prince" wrote in news:dks6b8$8lm$1 @news.spamcop.net: > We've expected this for years but still it's unsettling. Expected or not, it's NEVER easy for anyone involved. From johnl at in.newsgroup.only Wed Nov 9 1