[SpamCop-Social] Re: So much for the power of prayer....

[Chris Wright]

Miss Betsy wrote:
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>> "Miss Betsy" <devnull at spamcop.net> wrote in
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>>> Rape and pillage are considered 'wrong' now because people see the
>>> consequences of individuals being hurt.  At one time, they were not
>>> considered wrong, but the natural consequence of being a loser and the
>>> natural 'good' coming to the victor.  (and there are still people who,
>>> without laws, would see it that way).
>> By whom were they not considered wrong? The perpetrators? I'm sure they
>> were considered wrong by the victims.
> 
> It might have been painful, but it was the risk one took.  Like any 
> dangerous activity.  Is it 'wrong' to be hurt badly in a skiing accident? 
> Does the guy being tackled think it is wrong of the tackler?
> 
> Miss Betsy
> 
>

You've totally lost me on that last comment?

Who took what risk?
Rape and pillage are considered wrong now because it is wrong and always 
has been.
Back in the days when villages contained small numbers of people, they 
were powerless to defend against those committing the acts.
Only when those who realized that in order to defeat or prevent those 
the acts they needed to group together to form a larger deterrents.
Those committing the acts were always in the minority, its just that 
there were many small groups unable to defend against such attacks.

Of course the perpetrators considered themselves right, they were 
blinded by greed and rage.

Skiing and Tackles ? Lost the plot there a bit I think.

Now if you said someone stretched a wire rope across a slope and caused 
a skiing accident then of course someone can be blamed and that person 
was indeed wrong.
But if someone was skiing downhill and rammed themselves into a tree, 
define wrong.  Wrong for doing something stupid, but no evil was 
committed and no harm done to no one else, so the only wrong was done to 
themselves by themselves.

Same as tackling, its only wrong if its done with malice or bad intent. 
Then of course it is wrong.
If its a valid tackle then only jealousy or envy could be felt by the 
tackled.